Time  Nick      Message
11:49 sfan5     it's great how all the "oh we can just do it like this, it will be fine" decisions from the past fall on my feet to fix with the array texture PR
12:18 sfan5     the way the shadow map is rendered is basically a hack. it replaces all node materials with a single shader
12:18 sfan5     predictably that shader does not handle different alpha modes, waving or other node specialities I can't think of
12:33 sfan5     the deeper you dig there appear to be very few parts of Luanti code that aren't half-baked
12:33 sfan5     no serious game dev would want to use an engine where even the clearly documented behavior is wrong
14:10 sfan5     ready for review: #16574
14:10 ShadowBot https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/issues/16574 -- [no squash] Introduce array textures for node rendering by sfan5
16:31 Krock     at least we have comments
16:31 Krock     and thanks to you there's a limit to how much garbage builds up in the engine over the years
17:31 sfan5     unfortunately I do not have unlimited time and motivation
17:42 Krock     Trivia: we have at least 3 linear interpolation implementations: numericalBlend getLerp linearInterpolation
18:12 MTDiscord <josiah_wi> C++20 has a linear interpolation in the standard library.
18:13 MTDiscord <josiah_wi> (std::lerp)
18:42 MTDiscord <herowl> We're at C++17 for now, right?
18:44 MTDiscord <luatic> irrlicht v3f's aren't arithmetic types though, right
18:59 sfan5     fact: of Luanti's install basis on Google Play so few people have GLES 2.0 that they don't even show up in stats
19:02 Krock     huh? didn't we remove GLES 1.0 support? What are they using instead?
19:02 sfan5     put differently, practically nobody doesn't have GLES 3.x
19:02 Noisytoot untrue
19:03 Noisytoot both my pinephone and thinkpad x200 lack GLES 3.x
19:03 sfan5     your pinephone and thinkpad are not in the google play statistics
19:04 sfan5     anyway where I am going with this is not that we're going to raise the minimum version, but rather that if the array texture code is fixed to work on GLES practically every mobile user will be able to profit from it
19:05 user333_  what are the differences between OpenGL and (Open?)GLES? I know that GLES is for mobile devices, but is there any major difference other than that?
19:08 Krock     GLES only has a subset of the commands for simplicity
19:08 sfan5     the main part is that it has additional restrictions but specifically for 3.x they also got rid of lots of legacy compatibility stuff that the respective OpenGL version still has
19:09 user333_  i assumed it was a cut-down version of standard OpenGL, looks like i was right