Time  Nick      Message
10:30 sfan5     I have a small suspicion that Luanti is actually just broken for people without GL3 right now
10:34 sfan5     however no reports so far
10:35 sfan5     (because it looks like GL3 driver will just throw an exception that kills everything, it won't fall back to GL2?)
11:21 whylay    would setting MESA_GL_VERSION_OVERRIDE test that?
11:34 sfan5     dunno
12:27 sfan5     https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/issues/16886 ok this disproves it :)
13:58 user333_  i have a machine with opengl 2.1 i could test it on
14:17 Desour    will merge #15818 in 20 min min
14:17 ShadowBot https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/issues/15818 -- Create the SSCSM scripting by Desour
14:18 user333_  are we about to witness SSCSM being added? :O
14:19 user333_  anyway, 5.16.0-dev runs with opengl 2.1: https://filebin.net/6kz33htvirsd7i6r/Screenshot%20from%202026-01-27%2009-15-35.png
14:20 Desour    not really. but it sets the fundament for adding sscsm features. expect usable sscsm not before 2027
14:20 Desour    (optimistic estimate)
14:21 user333_  still we're getting sscsm before gta6 or hl3
14:21 Desour    to be sure to be clear: there's much essential stuff missing, not just features
14:22 user333_  i understand that, still a large step forward
14:53 Desour    merged
16:00 MTDiscord <rudzik8> does this mean that https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/pull/15246 will soon be revisited?
16:25 Desour    rudzik8: I will revisit #15246 after we have string serialization of the sscsm requests and events, see also "Possible follow-up PRs" in #15818
16:25 ShadowBot https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/issues/15246 -- Add an IPC channel for SSCSM by Desour
16:25 ShadowBot https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/issues/15818 -- Create SSCSM skeleton and scripting by Desour
16:27 Desour    (there are some thing I'd like to simplify in 15246, i.e. there's no need to directly use futex, as posix mutexes almost just wrap it. and the busy wait can also easily be implemented for other OSs)
16:31 MTDiscord <rudzik8> appreciate the answer, thanks
20:14 pgimeno   what is technical sort? is it like topological sort?
20:15 sfan5     it's the load order