Time  Nick       Message
08:42 sfan5      by the way in case anyone wasn't aware we're now in feature freeze
09:54 [MatrxMT]  <Zughy> I can't feel the cold
10:02 MTDiscord  <ggepic64> Zughy are you sure you're not working from the sun ?
10:04 sfan5      due to budget constraints cooling is only available for the features, but not the office space
10:05 MTDiscord  <ggepic64> Smart explanation
10:31 MTDiscord  <.zenonseth> this reply https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/pull/17408#issuecomment-5190563507 is 100% LLM maybe with tiny modifications. Despite being pro-llm usage for coding myself, I still find this form of communication BAD. And I think now that the new guidelines were merged, it directly goes against them
12:10 MTDiscord  <sheriff_u3> If you all had eaten less pizza at fosdem then there would be an budget constraints.
12:11 MTDiscord  <sheriff_u3> *not
13:30 MTDiscord  <ggepic64> Well they have no choice but to include (non-)vital needs in the budget X)
13:53 sfan5      only porridge for next time
15:21 rubenwardy one slice each only
15:58 sfan5      for #15417 I think we have to decide if we want to 1) have a coredev fix the remaining points and merge it or 2) wait for the author
15:58 ShadowBot  https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/issues/15417 -- Visual Effects Vol. 2 by GefullteTaubenbrust2
15:58 sfan5      the likely result of '2' being that we don't get it for this release
16:00 MTDiscord  <goodclover> are the luanti devs aware that LuaJIT is having a whole load of JS-like syntax extensions added into it's regular version ?  iirc Luanti still claims PUC compatibility so this could cause some headaches.  (I see no obvious way to build LuaJIT sans these features)
16:01 MTDiscord  <goodclover> (meaning the non-3.0 version. the additions werr backported)
16:02 MTDiscord  <goodclover> https://luajit.org/extensions.html#lj30_bp_syntax
16:06 sfan5      I am aware at least, but it's of no concern
16:06 sfan5      this is just like 'goto' and a problem for modders
16:06 MTDiscord  <goodclover> coolio
16:07 sfan5      "problem" meaning: they need to be aware that using this extensions will make their mods incompatible with some (rare?) installations of luanti
16:54 MTDiscord  <wsor4035> given luanti already has a lua fork, someone could pr parity
16:59 sfan5      I don't think we *want* to maintain a Lua fork actually
17:02 Krock      preliminary changelog: https://github.com/luanti-org/docs.luanti.org/pull/344
17:22 sfan5      rubenwardy: do you have time to look at #17405?
17:22 ShadowBot  https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/issues/17405 -- Update Gradle and fix Android build scripts by sfan5
20:39 MTDiscord  <.zenonseth> hey so there's a crash on a specific server, i think from a pre-existing bug that is now exposed because SSCSMs push palette into lua
20:40 sfan5      already fixed, upgrade first
20:41 MTDiscord  <.zenonseth> ah ok, thanks
21:07 MTDiscord  <.zenonseth> yeah pulled, build, joined - its fixed
21:16 MTDiscord  <.zenonseth> hm, plain vanilla minetest_game - and Asuna (a minetest_game based agme) - my own character doesn't seem to animate at all on latest build doesn't happen in voxelibre or mineclonia though
21:16 MTDiscord  <.zenonseth> i mean the head pointing animates, the walking anim doesn't though - win11, just pulled, release build
21:17 MTDiscord  <.zenonseth> head pointing animates in a server that had that mod i guess
21:17 sfan5      rubenwardy: is CDB timing out a known issue?
21:18 rubenwardy Seems to working fine for me
21:18 sfan5      2026-08-05 23:17:52: ERROR[CurlFetch]: HTTPFetch for https://content.luanti.org/api/packages/?type=mod&type=game&type=txp&protocol_version=52&engine_version=5.17.0-dev&hide=nonfree&hide=desktop_default failed: Timeout was reached (timeout = 20000ms)
21:18 sfan5      4th time now, can't install updates
21:19 sfan5      can confirm that local player animation is broken, in any case
21:19 MTDiscord  <.zenonseth> do you want to test out my mirror?
21:20 MTDiscord  <.zenonseth> i mean cdb mirror
21:28 sfan5      cdb access worked now 🤷
21:29 ZenonSeth  ah i guess not then :P
21:30 sfan5      merging #17115 in 10m or more
21:30 ShadowBot  https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/issues/17115 -- Android: read-only access to Luanti's data directory using DocumentsProvider by oong819
21:30 ZenonSeth  oh come on, couldn't even let me have a bug report :)
21:33 ZenonSeth  or any conversation apparently.
21:52 MTDiscord  <luatic> pushing https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/issues/17409#issuecomment-5197712557 in 5m
21:56 sfan5      thx