Time  Nick      Message
23:28 MTDiscord <wsor4035> so im not toe stepping, https://github.com/luanti-org/flint/issues/5 should flint stick to its own lsp for now, or wait (rip me) on lsp support for the engine? and should it be the engine lsp, or that be its own separate thing?  cc @greenxenith @mark.wiemer
23:30 MTDiscord <greenxenith> "Engine LSP"?
23:30 MTDiscord <wsor4035> vscode lsp for minetest/core, and yalls wanting a machine parsable docs
23:30 MTDiscord <greenxenith> And flint's approach is what, as opposed to docs?
23:31 MTDiscord <wsor4035> write now nothing, but similar to biome js, i want to eventually show lint results in editor
23:31 MTDiscord <wsor4035> so question is just that, or build in engine api support as well
23:33 MTDiscord <wsor4035> for context https://biomejs.dev/reference/language-server/, https://biomejs.dev/reference/vscode/
23:38 MTDiscord <greenxenith> We should be using LuaLS as the LSP, no reason to reinvent the wheel. Which means generating LuaCATS annotations from the docs
23:39 MTDiscord <greenxenith> I believe that was Mark's conclusion as well
23:40 MTDiscord <greenxenith> Correction: That was one of Mark's previous conclusions, until he pivoted to a custom LSP
23:40 MTDiscord <wsor4035> so ill just stick to linting lsp then
23:40 MTDiscord <wsor4035> ...or maybe?
23:41 MTDiscord <wsor4035> ....or maybe
23:42 MTDiscord <greenxenith> I dont actually understand why Mark abandoned LuaLS as an LSP. I understand avoiding using raw LuaCATS as documentation, but it would be a lot less work to transpile MD into LuaCATS IMO
23:43 MTDiscord <greenxenith> What are you doing beyond luacheck?
23:44 MTDiscord <wsor4035> https://docs.luanti.org/for-creators/flint/lint/
23:44 MTDiscord <greenxenith> Understood
23:45 MTDiscord <greenxenith> So in theory, Flint could include both Selene and LuaLS
23:45 MTDiscord <greenxenith> Which is the biomejs approach, I suppose?
23:45 MTDiscord <wsor4035> biomejs sticks to just linting, its not a js lsp
23:46 MTDiscord <wsor4035> i think
23:46 MTDiscord <greenxenith> I think it does have an LSP
23:47 MTDiscord <greenxenith> Either way, nothing stops Flint from having both
23:47 MTDiscord <greenxenith> Assuming they dont overlap
23:47 MTDiscord <wsor4035> it does have an lsp, its just for linting, not the js library of functions. whereas here im sorta proposing linting + engine library of functions
23:48 MTDiscord <greenxenith> I think it would be beneficial to include LuaLS alongside Selene
23:48 MTDiscord <greenxenith> Then Luanti Tools can leverage Flint
23:49 MTDiscord <greenxenith> Docs' job is to make the API ref consistent enough to parse to LuaLS definitions
23:49 MTDiscord <wsor4035> LuaLS is in lua, while everything in flint is rust. guess i technically could run lua via rust
23:52 MTDiscord <greenxenith> EmmyLua is Rust, but it isnt quite as complete as LuaLS, especially for C++ Lua API stuff
23:54 MTDiscord <wsor4035> it does appear to support Luacats, so if your using that as your "compile" target....
23:54 MTDiscord <mark.wiemer> Heyo, glad there's energy here. I'm still recovering from major illness but I've poked around with "my" work a bit last month. I didn't like LuaCATS because of its low expressiveness, but I can't remember examples. Next goal for me is just building my own mods and tinkering with functions to see how they work. Basically gather/interpret data before trying to structure it. I have stepped back from multiple other obligations to
23:54 MTDiscord recover faster, but I don't think I'll be able to do much this month. Should have more energy my mid-next month
23:55 MTDiscord <mark.wiemer> You can find my work on github at mark-wiemer/hello-hello, there is a Luanti package and you can browse the history for notes and findings
23:55 MTDiscord <greenxenith> It supports LuaCATS as definitions, but there are features it doesnt support like meta tags, environment extensions, etc.
23:55 MTDiscord <mark.wiemer> Gtg now, @me if you need me and I'll respond sometime tomorrow
23:55 MTDiscord <greenxenith> Thank you sir
23:55 MTDiscord <wsor4035> be a bit odd to use it for lsp, and it has a lint and formatter when im already using stylua+Selene
23:56 MTDiscord <greenxenith> Id just have to be convinced that it is worth the technical debt to implement our own or use something that obviously misses some targets when a comprehensive standard is available
23:57 MTDiscord <wsor4035> i mean, fair
23:57 MTDiscord <wsor4035> its what flint does, uses the standards and then builds on top of then for luanti specific support + bundling everything in one tool
23:58 MTDiscord <wsor4035> anyways, happy to just do a lint lsp, but also happy to do lint+engine lsp
23:58 MTDiscord <greenxenith> Running Lua from Rust isnt the worst thing in the world, but the duplication of responsibility is worth considering
23:59 MTDiscord <wsor4035> i think from a users perspective, its probably better that they have just one thing that does both, but 🤷