Time Nick Message 00:32 cheapie ireallyhateirc: That sounds like a good thing, though? 00:32 ireallyhateirc yeah it's a feature 00:33 cheapie A while back we changed the minimum protocol version on VE-Creative to not allow clients older than 5.7 (IIRC Multicrap is based on 5.4 or something), it's been so much calmer there now. 00:33 MTDiscord comments can be made on the class of player multicraft brings, i just wish they would rebase there engine version tbh 00:34 cheapie If they do, then I hope they provide some other way to detect it. 00:34 ireallyhateirc wsor4035, it's up to them to maintain their client? why do you even care if it's rebased or not? 00:35 ireallyhateirc unless you use it yourself for whatever insane reason :D 00:35 cheapie I would assume the rebase comment is because it's a mess when presented with [png or paramtype2="4dir", and it confuses players to no end 00:35 cheapie These are from 5.5 and 5.7 respectively, IIRC 00:36 MTDiscord i dont use it. but mainly because its outdated, so mods less and less will support it, complaints as cheapie said, etc 00:36 cheapie For [png I can see why it has problems if it doesn't support that, but for paramtype2="4dir" I'm not entirely sure why the server doesn't just detect it's an old client and pretend it's facedir instead. 00:37 MTDiscord its 5.4+few cherry picked things here and there 00:38 cheapie There might be more, but those are the two big things that come to mind, they meant that Multicrap players on VE-C were usually met by nonstop error spew and nodes rotated wrong. 00:38 cheapie That and I swear like half of the users of it can't follow instructions and 95% of the rest grief and/or spam. 00:39 MTDiscord i mean, iirc its user agent is multicraft? 00:39 MTDiscord cheapie: pretend it's facedir can't work with color4dir though 00:39 ireallyhateirc on our servers it was mostly players asking to give them stuff and not knowing how to play 00:39 MTDiscord you have to patch your engine to see that info in lua api since the engine is stupid af, but servers should have that patch anyways 00:39 cheapie luatic: Sure. But this is regular 4dir. 00:40 MTDiscord technically it probably can't work with 4dir either actually since modders are free to use those other bits. though you could now start working around it by sending different param2s to different clients... 00:41 cheapie That's about what I had in mind, yeah - tell the old clients it's facedir and make up a new param2 that gives the rotation it should be. 00:41 ireallyhateirc btw I watched a video on youtube that tested multiple "Minecraft knockoffs" (on iPad) and Multicraft was the top one 00:44 MTDiscord its possible #15451 might go somewhere 00:45 ireallyhateirc what's Crapple store's policy on GPL ? 00:45 MTDiscord *lgpl 00:46 MTDiscord also depends who you ask on that one 00:46 MTDiscord some say yes, other say no 00:46 MTDiscord i dont feel like hashing that out, do your own searching. 00:48 ireallyhateirc I heard from a friend that apple store also has paid Krita idk like 20$ ? 00:49 MTDiscord krita is usually paid in stores, but also then freely avialable from there site 00:49 MTDiscord its on steam, microsoft store for sale as far as i know 00:50 ireallyhateirc that's true but Appstore has monopoly on idevices 00:50 ireallyhateirc though that's fair if the cash goes to Krita foundation 00:52 ireallyhateirc hmmm turns out it's for Mac only? Though I believe desktop apps can be used on mobile ithings too. 00:52 MTDiscord no, its the other way around 00:52 MTDiscord (run ios apps on macos) 00:53 MTDiscord https://support.apple.com/guide/app-store/iphone-ipad-apps-mac-apple-silicon-fird2c7092da/mac 00:53 ireallyhateirc well anyway, hope that license won't stop the iOS port of Luanti 00:54 MTDiscord anyways, there is altstore or whatever it was where you sign the apps in dev mode every so many days, or the stores in the eu 00:57 ireallyhateirc and even if luanti lands on iOS I doubt it will be more popular than Multicraft 00:57 ireallyhateirc because Luanti doesn't get advertised as the ultimate Minecraft knockoff 01:19 [MatrxMT] crita is on the mac app store and not available for iOS 01:19 [MatrxMT] *krita 01:20 [MatrxMT] https://old.reddit.com/r/krita/comments/rzhjb3/is_there_any_chance_of_getting_krita_for_ipad/ 01:20 [MatrxMT] MisterE: it looks like this bridge is one-way at the moment, is the bot muted, in the wrong channel, something else? 01:21 Blockhead256 krita is on the mac app store and not available for iOS 01:21 Blockhead256 https://old.reddit.com/r/krita/comments/rzhjb3/is_there_any_chance_of_getting_krita_for_ipad/ 01:21 Blockhead256 as noted, no OpenGL and GPL makes it impossible 01:22 MTDiscord but luanti is lgpl, not gpl 01:23 Blockhead256 oh yeah 01:23 Blockhead256 I don't imagine we're moving to support Metal any time soon though 01:23 MTDiscord see my previous comment of it depends who you ask, and me not wanting to get into any more 01:24 MTDiscord ios still support ogles 2 last i checked 01:25 MTDiscord anyways, see the linked pr above 03:18 SFENCE_arch We do not have to support Metal. We only have to support Google ANGLE. http://angleproject.org/ 04:06 [MatrxMT] sometimes the bot gets moderated on the irc side I think 04:06 MTDiscord well it's two way now 04:22 MTDiscord is homthack here 04:33 MTDiscord maybe not, but leroy was 15:45 ireallyhateirc Is the footstep sound play interval hardcoded? 19:08 Krock ireallyhateirc: afaik it's played once per meter or node 22:35 bdju is there a way in the UI to delete a Game or do I have to do it at the filesystem level? 22:36 bdju I have Crafter Alpha 0.07 and I think it was abandoned 22:37 bdju I see for stuff like MeseCraft I can find it on the same screen you install new Games from and then hit uninstall, but I'm thinking Crafter isn't on the list 22:38 rubenwardy uninstall in the content tab 22:39 bdju ahh nice. thank you 22:47 ireallyhateirc my intrusive thoughts tell me to implement a Dead by daylight clone in Luanti