Time Nick Message 15:36 MTDiscord about the server announce, is there a contradiction in requiring bind_address for playit.gg servers as they do tunneling? 16:24 MTDiscord I'm pretty sure bind_address is not the address that's used in the announcement, since that's usually an internal LAN address and not an internet-accessible one anyway 16:24 MTDiscord there's a separate setting like server_address or something that's used for the announcement. 18:13 shaft Does anyone except sfan5 have access to the worldedit repo? 18:19 shaft https://github.com/Uberi/Minetest-WorldEdit/pull/255 18:20 MinetestBot 02[git] 04grorp -> 03luanti-org/luanti: TouchControls: touch_use_crosshair, dig/place simulation refactoring … 135e89371 https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/commit/5e89371ecdba4eb706841a6776b174d1194acff4 (152025-02-25T18:19:44Z) 18:44 sfan5 @aeshaedi what issue are you having? 18:46 MTDiscord servers.luanti.org/announce returned response code 409 18:49 sfan5 there should be a message attached 18:50 shaft sfan5 will you review my pr or are you busy? 18:50 sfan5 i will when time permits 18:50 sfan5 this is always the answer 18:51 shaft That is in a week, month or year? 18:51 sfan5 unknown 18:51 MTDiscord Who can say where the road goes? 18:52 MTDiscord Where the day flows? 18:52 jonadab Predicting the future is hard. 18:53 shaft Just do it now in 5 minutes instead of letting it pile up. 18:57 sfan5 it would serve you well to make fewer assumptions about when I'm busy or not 18:58 jonadab I can sort of sympathize with the tendency to assume that chatting in IRC is a sign of not being busy right now. I know that's not always the case, but I can understand why someone would think it would be. 18:59 jonadab (It's not the case, because if none of the devs made time for the channel, that would cause a whole collection of problems. But users don't always realize this.) 19:07 ireallyhateirc chaotic evil idea: letting Microsoft Copilot review PRs :D 19:10 ireallyhateirc Copilot just told me that pipeworks is one of the best Luanti mods 19:11 MTDiscord what are the dangers of reviewing? 19:12 ireallyhateirc are you asking me or copilot? AFAIK reviewing is not dangerous unless you offend the reviewer enough to become their mortal enemy 19:12 MTDiscord it's really the approving that's dangerous 19:12 MTDiscord and to some extent rejecting 19:14 ireallyhateirc I asked Copilot for fun and that's one of the things it gave me lol: "Burnout: Constantly reviewing large volumes of code can lead to fatigue, making it more likely to miss errors." 19:15 ireallyhateirc it's competent enough we can hire it 19:17 MTDiscord I managed to make most of my game with chatgpt, and learnt a lot fixing his errors 19:18 MTDiscord for instance it still uses minetest, he thinks Luanti is a fork 19:18 ireallyhateirc hmmm interesting 19:19 ireallyhateirc was the game complex? 19:20 MTDiscord well its called minimalism, so no 19:21 MTDiscord but i learnt to make things (dealing with formspecs, HUD) 19:22 MTDiscord so I value it as a learning source 19:22 MTDiscord Ironically burnout is one of the things AI doesn't really experience, since a new one is created and destroyed for each interaction. 19:23 ireallyhateirc I read a blog post where a dev said AI made him a dumber coder. He was spending the same amount of time but instead of putting thought or understanding into it he ended up blindly copying AI hints 19:23 ireallyhateirc but I guess you can learn from it just like you if you try to understand what it does and why 19:23 MTDiscord Using AI will make you worse at, say, parsing comand line parameters, but will make you better at supervising a junior dev. 19:24 MTDiscord It's sort of meh when it comes to analysis, especially with complex problems, but it has a massive diversity of technology it's familiar with, so if e.g. you have no idea what tools you should use to approach a problem you can have a nice argument with it about what you should pick. 19:25 MTDiscord I have it fix my code whenever I'm working in an unfamiliar language or with an unfamiliar library. I don't know a lick of python but it helped me get a Python2 script to run under Python3. 19:28 ireallyhateirc I want to learn about AI stuff to avoid getting easily replaced. I'm also thinking about training some small models for Luanti (e.g. mobs doing bizarre things) 19:28 MTDiscord its especially useful when you already know pseudocode, you can translate it easily 19:30 MTDiscord summarizing though, thats his superpower 20:31 MTDiscord for some reason calling AI "him" instead of "it" bugs me 20:32 ireallyhateirc copilot doesn't have a pesona so I prefer calling it "it" 20:33 MTDiscord probably because if we should be anthopromorphising it already than we have a really big problem 20:33 ireallyhateirc it should be fine as long as people really know what AI is, the problem is they don't lol 20:33 MTDiscord not that I think we are there yet or anywhere close 20:36 ireallyhateirc it's hard to tell if/how AIs think. Unlike other natural and artificial things they talk as if they were human 20:37 ireallyhateirc it's kinda like with cartoon characters - we know they're fake but treat them as real to some extent. Anyway it's off topic so I'd like to end it here