Time Nick Message 03:13 [MatrxMT] the data loss of the forums is NOT acceptable, and that's part of why celeron55 feels particularly burdened. I regularly search for forum results, and now the site is being DDoSed and I can't get those 03:13 [MatrxMT] but of course, LLMs are supposed to embody all of that knowledge. So they're holding to ransom eh? 03:15 MTDiscord the forums have already been wiped at least once 03:15 MTDiscord see the sokimine? archive 03:15 [MatrxMT] can I? do you have a link? 03:20 MTDiscord https://forum.luanti.org/viewtopic.php?t=22451 / https://sorcerykid.github.io/minetest-forums/ 03:22 [MatrxMT] thank you 03:25 MTDiscord if you want to actually use the forums, should just write yourself a script that redirects all requests to it, to the internet archive. faster and your probably have a better chance of getting the content 😏 03:26 [MatrxMT] I have the timezone advantage, it's late at night for me that the artificial traffic really starts to hurt usually 03:28 MTDiscord hmm, does the forum have rss or something? wouldnt be that hard to just scrape the forum and rehost it 03:28 [MatrxMT] fairly sure it does have an RSS, yes 03:29 [MatrxMT] there's also https://forum.luanti.org/search.php?search_id=active_topics 03:29 MTDiscord alternatively i could just scrape the listing page, extract all posts daily or something on the top page assuming its not going to have more posts than that, and update those 03:29 [MatrxMT] if the bots weren't braindead they'd make accounts and scrape that every minute or so 03:29 MTDiscord but more effort than i want to alot to it atm 03:30 [MatrxMT] obviously the post rate isn't a minute but they obsessively want to check for new stuff apparently... 03:33 [MatrxMT] you would want some mechanism to delete the 50% of spam posts that I deal with as well... 03:33 [MatrxMT] since they wouldn't be automatically dropped from the archive, you'd have to check a post is still there after its first 24h or so 03:35 MTDiscord go full roller and write my own forum with blackjack and 03:35 MTDiscord but nah, actual time i want to spend on luanti web stuff should be sunk into skinsdb 03:35 [MatrxMT] true 03:36 MTDiscord or docs/main website, but refering here to actual core web stuff 04:36 repetitivestrain 9ff38bd transforms mineclonia's moon into an ugly excrescence with a bluish border 10:11 MTDiscord when did that convention become standard? 10:30 repetitivestrain Blockhead256: i cannot use the forum's own reporting system as it simply redirects me to a 404 page 10:31 repetitivestrain but this appears to be spam: https://forum.luanti.org/viewtopic.php?p=446147 10:31 [MatrxMT] yes, the reports system is broken on the front end, the form goes to the wrong URL. thank you for the report 10:31 repetitivestrain Any time 11:22 sfan5 9ff38bd transforms mineclonia's moon into an ugly excrescence with a bluish border 11:22 sfan5 working as intended. if you don't want a tonemap don't set one 11:31 repetitivestrain there wasn't one in 5.11 11:31 [MatrxMT] right in the commit log: 11:31 [MatrxMT] > This fixes a regression introduced by commit 58ccf0b 11:32 [MatrxMT] git describe --tags 58ccf0b -> 5.10.0-26-g58ccf0ba8 11:32 repetitivestrain Hmm I don't recall how it was in 5.10 11:32 repetitivestrain but i should be very surprised if the moon was blue there 11:32 [MatrxMT] only one way to find out 11:33 repetitivestrain yes, i'm building 5.10 as we speak 13:12 sfan5 find out anything yet? 13:30 [MatrxMT] Blockhead256: new spam user "hrgurus" - no posts yet but their description is an ad 13:31 [MatrxMT] we have many of those every day that never post anything, and they've basically never been deleted. The user list is a lost cause 13:32 [MatrxMT] oh... 13:32 [MatrxMT] https://forum.luanti.org/memberlist.php?g=7&mode=group&start=23760 13:32 [MatrxMT] i'd bet 90% of users with a link are ads 13:33 [MatrxMT] the vast majority of the registered accounts are useless. But really, the member list is pretty much useless too 13:34 [MatrxMT] there should really be a regex blacklist 13:34 [MatrxMT] but then you'd risk losing like 2 users 13:35 [MatrxMT] and block the ones too 13:40 [MatrxMT] yes, false positive. Also the scunthorpe problem 13:56 celeron55 i wish forum moderators could just write php themselves to do all that automation 13:56 celeron55 it's stupid to have to do any of that by hand 13:58 sfan5 i did write some python automation to mass-delete spam accounts 13:58 sfan5 because the phpbb builtin stuff wouldn't work 14:00 sfan5 https://0x0.st/8Rxw.png html parsing isn't exactly fun tho 14:00 [MatrxMT] akismet does help with detection, as does the stop forum spam database 14:01 [MatrxMT] ban hammer makes bans easy 14:02 [MatrxMT] only way it could be more streamlined when I'm checking the unread post list is maybe one-click ban. Bit risky. And faster pageloads (in my dreams) 14:02 [MatrxMT] ah, I, uh.. overlooked the recent context of spam-accounts without posts 14:02 repetitivestrain sfan5: yes: the moon in 5.10 is noticably less bluish than in 5.12, though there is a tint that is not present in 5.11 14:03 repetitivestrain but i wanted to debug the issue myself awhile 14:03 sfan5 screenshot? 14:03 sfan5 it is of course possible that we messed up something else 14:04 repetitivestrain i'm uploading a set right now 14:05 repetitivestrain https://ibb.co/album/R7yczM 14:05 repetitivestrain on the left is 5.12, and on the right is 5.10 14:06 sfan5 and you have a moon_tonemap.png? 14:07 repetitivestrain there's no file by this name in mineclonia 14:07 sfan5 do you set your own tonemap? 14:08 repetitivestrain no, the only moon properties we alter are texture and visible 14:08 sfan5 then it should all look identical in 5.10, 5.11, 5.12 and 5.13-dev 14:09 repetitivestrain that would be ideal, but unfortunately it is not so 14:10 repetitivestrain i'll attempt to reduce this to a single mod tomorrow 19:02 [MatrxMT] something very strange is happening on the forums: sometimes a slow page load, sometimes a 502 bad gateway very quickly 19:02 [MatrxMT] it's like a 50/50 per pageload 19:10 gideonstar using time_speed I can change the speed of the full cycle. but is there any chance to make nights shorter and days longer for example? 19:17 [MatrxMT] https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/blob/5.12.0/doc/lua_api.md?plain=1#L8939 19:17 [MatrxMT] https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/pull/8964 19:18 [MatrxMT] I don't know of an out-of-the-box mod, sorry 19:20 gideonstar the first one looks promising 19:21 gideonstar let's take a look into building a simple mod 19:58 gideonstar nevermind, there is a mod 20:19 [MatrxMT] Quick question. Is there really no other ways for making switched on/off block change it's texture? For example, a burning furnace and an idling one, do I need to define two nodes and swap them? 20:20 sfan5 there is not 20:21 [MatrxMT] Thanks 21:40 sfan5 interesting fact: Minetest was calling itself a game engine as early as 2012 21:44 sfan5 also the website design has not substantially changed since 2015