Time Nick Message 03:52 user2_ well, now i know what happens when a VPS running luantiserver runs out of disk space.... frequent crashes, lots of them 03:55 user2_ my friend's creative server just ran out of disk space (12GB map.sqlite) 04:27 sofar any cmake wizards here? I can't even figure out how to add a simple library using pkg_config 04:28 sofar 25 years and cmake still frustrates me more than it helps me get things done 05:35 [MatrxMT] I am once again asking that people stop asking Luanti for free 100% accurate Minecraft cloning 05:43 user2_ someone asking for it on the forums again? 05:43 [MatrxMT] yes https://forum.luanti.org/viewtopic.php?p=447052#p447052 05:44 [MatrxMT] on the bright side, I probably miss 90% of the requests since I'm not on discord 05:44 user2_ neither am i :D 05:44 user2_ i'm mostly ingame but i leave IRC open 05:45 mtvisitor hi, good afternoon. 05:45 mtvisitor future is future, and business is business.🤝 05:45 user2_ oof, it's 2:45 AM here... not exactly afternoon 05:45 mtvisitor !up wunderwelt.one:30000 05:45 MinetestBot wunderwelt.one:30000 is up (13ms) (IPv4) 05:46 mtvisitor !tell Juri hi, good afternoon. 05:46 MinetestBot mtvisitor: I'll pass that on when Juri is around 05:47 mtvisitor !tell Juri please help to double check the WuWe game server's configuration so that the mtvisitor (a normal player account from china) could re-visit (or re-login) your WuWe game server.thanks. 05:47 MinetestBot mtvisitor: I'll pass that on when Juri is around 05:49 mtvisitor thanks for your help and support.🤝@MinetestBot. 05:51 mtvisitor celeron55: i have a personal suggestion for you. 🤝 05:53 mtvisitor As a global project (or product), personally, I suggest you and your team could backup (or preserve) at least 5 years(2021~2025) of IRC chat log and some server's data carefully, 05:55 mtvisitor if there is some investigation from 3rd party organization(s) (or groups) and some country's government(s) (or governance), which will be conducted in the future. 05:56 mtvisitor personally, i think this is necessary for the data saving and also suggestion for you. 🤝 05:56 [MatrxMT] irc.luanti.org 05:57 mtvisitor thank you very much for your understanding and sorry for my poor English. 05:57 mtvisitor 🍺🍺🍺 05:58 mtvisitor Blockhead256: yes, that is a public url. 06:00 mtvisitor ok, no problem. sorry to bother you, xD! 06:06 mtvisitor https://www.polygon.com/ea-electronic-arts-buyout-saudi-arabia-jared-kushner/ 06:06 mtvisitor EA's $55B buyout is a big deal. 06:08 smk user2_: sqlite is not really good for running public servers, VPS shares cpu with other tenants so that hits the performance as well. 06:38 user2_ VPSes don't "share cpu with other tenants", each instance is it's own VM with virtual CPU specs. the issue is that the server he owns has only 20 GB of storage, not the database backend. 06:39 [MatrxMT] it depends on the hypervisor technology used as to whether CPU access is shared or exclusive 06:39 [MatrxMT] but yes, you need to buy enough storage for your VPS. Thankfully, it's usually the cheapest thing to upgrade 06:40 [MatrxMT] I have a feeling in this instance, with a public creative server, a lot of that map has nothing productive on it and could do with a cleanup 07:17 user2_ yeah, my friend removed ~1GB of files (mostly another instance of MT) and it's back online (for now) 07:18 user2_ he's going to (hopefully) get an upgrade 07:18 [MatrxMT] your friend needs to look into tools for deleting unimportant mapblocks 07:19 user2_ yeah 07:20 user2_ rn it's one of the most popular creative servers on the serverlist (we had 8 players on the other day :D) 09:10 MinetestBot 02[git] 04sfan5 -> 03luanti-org/luanti: Clean up tiledef/layer handling in wield mesh 13293544f https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/commit/293544fb48c473689df48d07d2603a2871576ea8 (152025-10-07T09:10:19Z) 09:10 MinetestBot 02[git] 04sfan5 -> 03luanti-org/luanti: Clean up RequestQueue a bunch 1306250f8 https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/commit/06250f8b271edbd6ba667aa673d100f66239a801 (152025-10-07T09:10:19Z) 09:10 MinetestBot 02[git] 04twrightsman -> 03luanti-org/luanti: Fix invalid duplicate provides tag in AppStream metainfo 13c4e0c9d https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/commit/c4e0c9d40882757435892703124543091a54ce4b (152025-10-07T09:10:42Z) 11:03 erle 25 years and cmake still frustrates me more than it helps me get things done 11:08 erle sofar IIRC the main reason that cmake exists is that bottom-up toposort build systems have no way to “lazily” expand the tree of built things once it is scheduled. so you have to know a lot of things in advance. hence, before the build you have a “pre-build” with a tool like cmake. top-down recursive build systems do not have this problem (and usually have shorter build rules too) and are easier to use, but they are harder to implement correctly, 11:08 erle so they are less popular. 11:10 erle sofar i have come to the conclusion that every dependency that can be figured out automatically should be handled automatically. hence, i build a binary, strace the compiler, and use the strace output to figure out which files were used. 11:10 erle sofar basically, i can never tell if a build is going to succeed the first time, but if it succeeds i have complete and correct dependency information. 11:12 sfan5 sofar: https://github.com/sfan5/luanti/blob/0e0a6715e5b566c9e2cf1adb80ba497c6cacba5e/src/CMakeLists.txt#L209-L215 like this 11:12 sfan5 (in case you're wondering that branch contains an implementation I wrote independently) 11:29 sfan5 if mariadb-connector-c provides a cmake module prefer that obviously 12:29 [MatrxMT] idk if we have the capability, but can we just straight ban the word "reeltor" in forum usernames? We seem to get a lot of spam from "them" 12:30 [MatrxMT] in every field honestly, if we could 12:30 [MatrxMT] shouldn't have any collateral, nobody should be taking about real estate on the forums 21:10 MinetestBot Juri: Oct-07 05:46 UTC hi, good afternoon. 21:10 MinetestBot Juri: Oct-07 05:47 UTC please help to double check the WuWe game server's configuration so that the mtvisitor (a normal player account from china) could re-visit (or re-login) your WuWe game server.thanks. 23:35 sofar sfan5: cool, I'll take a look at it. And yeah, I sorta came to the same thing last night after an hour of wrestling it ;)