Time Nick Message 02:56 user333_ does anyone know why default:cloud exists in MTG? i assume it has something to do with clouds but im too lazy to check for myself .-. 03:04 cheapie I think that might be one of those "it was used for something ages ago and is just still in there in case someone had built with it" nodes 03:15 [MatrxMT] again, pure guessing really, but I think some mapgen features used to literally place clouds as nodes, not just the moving clouds we have 03:15 [MatrxMT] but yeah, a long time ago 03:32 user333_ i guessed as much 03:33 user333_ it makes a defence though, it's used on our server to make rooms to lock misbehaving players in 03:33 user333_ *a great defence 03:36 user333_ we've found a ton of odd illegal nodes... like default:apple_mark that exists for some reason 03:44 [MatrxMT] that's a mechanic that grows apples back on apple trees after they're reoved 03:44 [MatrxMT] which I didn't think was in vanilla MTG, but I must have it confused with mods that add it to trees from mods, where those trees *don't* for whatever reason come with that mechanic 03:45 [MatrxMT] https://forum.luanti.org/viewtopic.php?t=24986 03:50 user333_ yeah i figured it was for regrowing apples by the name 03:50 user333_ we also have the standard illegal nodes like flowing water and a lit furnace on display :P 03:52 [MatrxMT] > /giveme ignore 03:53 [MatrxMT] > giving 'ignore' is not allowed. 03:53 [MatrxMT] woah okay 03:53 user333_ you can use //lua or, ironically, the blockhead mod to get it 03:53 [MatrxMT] ah worldedit, everyone's favourite side avenue to get arbitrary Lua... 03:54 user333_ :D 03:55 user333_ anyway, you can use //lua to add it to your inventory or put it on your head with blockhead then remove it 03:59 repetitivestrain there's also /lua 03:59 [MatrxMT] yes, from Debug 03:59 repetitivestrain yeah 03:59 cheapie ///lua when? 03:59 [MatrxMT] not present in multiplayer 03:59 repetitivestrain but be advised not to connect to a server as an administrator over a wan when such a mod is installed 03:59 repetitivestrain over any unsecured network 03:59 [MatrxMT] //lua: run Debug's very of /lua from worldedit, with worldedit_debug :)) 04:00 [MatrxMT] dude where's the methods for an inventorylist? 04:00 repetitivestrain as the security of your connection is not guaranteed, and attackers will be in a position to forge commands from you and execute arbitrary lua on your server 04:01 [MatrxMT] oh, it's all through methods on the InventoryList with (listname, stack) 04:02 [MatrxMT] /lua core.get_player_by_name("singleplayer"):get_inventory():add_item("main", ItemStack("ignore")) 04:03 [MatrxMT] > You can't place ignore nodes! 04:04 [MatrxMT] oh but you can `//set ignore` 04:04 * [MatrxMT] carefully replaces the ignore with some air 04:12 user333_ what happens if you put this in a mod: `core.register_alias("ignore", "air")` 04:12 [MatrxMT] something beautiful, I'm sure, please report the results 04:13 user333_ ;-; 04:13 * user333_ does just that 04:13 [MatrxMT] My guess is it could range from a crash/world destruction to something benign like extra map space usage on the border of generated terrain 04:15 user333_ allright loading a flat MTG world with no mods for reference 04:15 user333_ it works, as expected, now to enable the mod >:-) 04:16 user333_ doesn't seem to be doing anything... hmm 04:17 user333_ yeah doesn't do anything, il test it on 5.0.0 to make it as broken as possible 04:18 [MatrxMT] if that doesn't do anything, maybe try the other way around 04:18 user333_ already did 04:21 user333_ for some reason i can't find MTG on 5.0.0's content browser -_- 04:23 [MatrxMT] check out the 5.0.0 tag (or download zip) 04:24 [MatrxMT] https://github.com/luanti-org/minetest_game/tree/5.0.0 04:24 user333_ i'l just grab an old release from the MTG repo 04:24 user333_ aka that ^^^ 04:25 user333_ downloading at 200 KB/s ;-; 04:25 [MatrxMT] ah, the good old days 04:26 [MatrxMT] watching at 360p and still buffering occasionally, and downloading files at barely above dial-up speeds 04:26 user333_ probably my DIY wireless setup 04:26 user333_ (i can get gigabit through wired, however, also i'm downloading some other big files atm) 04:28 user333_ well... it doesn't seem to do anything, probably for the best however 04:28 [MatrxMT] maybe try an outer space mod, it might interfere with the vacwm mechanics 04:30 user333_ i expected it to stop generation of mapblocks (because they start as ignore but turn into air shortly after) 04:30 user333_ *they should 04:34 user333_ oof, my laptop gets 1MB/s download and 2MB/s upload, ima check my main PC now 04:34 repetitivestrain sfan5: [git] sfan5 -> luanti-org/luanti: Allow mapgen chunk size to be non-cubic (#16429) f4977b1 ... thanks! 04:34 ShadowBot https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/issues/16429 -- Allow mapgen chunk size to be non-cubic by sfan5 04:35 user333_ just over 3MB/s upload and 2.5MB/s download on my main PC over wifi... ;-; 04:36 [MatrxMT] sounds fine to me lul 04:37 user333_ what speeds do you get? 04:37 user333_ (over wifi) 04:37 [MatrxMT] actually I think my dodgy SATA SSD limits me a lot anyway 04:38 [MatrxMT] can't really download at more than 3 MB/s, and that's wired 04:38 [MatrxMT] but that's an average speed, the thing just cuts out periodically 04:38 user333_ my laptop boots off a 500GB hard drive from 2012, and my main PC (an RPi5) boots off an SD card yet i still get that speed... 04:39 user333_ i don't think it's a bottleneck :P 05:13 repetitivestrain 0f943e58 appears to have affected minimap normals? 05:15 repetitivestrain no, not that commit 05:15 repetitivestrain hmm 05:16 repetitivestrain it's actually 4756e234 06:35 fluxionary what are these numbers? i'm missing some contet 06:35 fluxionary 4 byes, but what do they mean? 06:36 MTDiscord they are commit hashes 06:39 Skippythekangoo Morning 19:00 cheapie Am I doing this whole "towing" thing right? :P https://cheapiesystems.com/media/images/screenshot_20251023_135922.png 19:11 Krock something feels wrong but I cannot pinpoint it 19:12 Krock ah. cheapie: why are there stars visible during day time? 19:12 Krock and why am I getting Rickrolled by a screenshot? 19:13 cheapie The visible stars are because I'm on perma-day and overriding the day/night ratio doesn't affect the stars 19:13 cheapie The display stuff was someone else