Time Nick Message 03:30 * user333_ finds a cheater while moderating -_- 03:31 greeter and now you get to moderate a cheater while finding 03:32 [MatrxMT] nobody uses Konversation 03:33 user333_ average cheater, noclipping without noclip priv, has an unusual version string, denies it, etc 05:03 MTDiscord Yo 05:03 MTDiscord Aren't u the same guy who was sending unusual requests to the acedia backend 05:13 user333_ me? 05:25 MTDiscord I believe so 05:26 user333_ how so? 05:28 MTDiscord Do you have an acedia account by the name of "someguy"? 05:29 user333_ Yes. 05:30 MTDiscord That's all I needed to know 05:31 user333_ Continue explaining. 05:31 MTDiscord What for 05:31 user333_ So i know how much you know 05:32 MTDiscord Probably more than you'd want me to know 05:33 user333_ Tell me it all via PM. 05:35 pgimeno AFAIK the discord bridge does not allow PM 05:35 MTDiscord It doesn't 05:35 user333_ get a real IRC client 05:36 user333_ or tell me here 05:37 mrcheese :P 05:38 MTDiscord I'd rather not 05:38 MTDiscord Making people doubt is rather fun to some extent 05:41 user333_ Allright. 05:41 erle some guy 05:41 erle user 05:41 erle how descriptive the names are 05:42 user333_ very :P 05:42 user333_ although... my username on CTF is... quite unique 05:43 user333_ adrian530: Good luck. 17:20 Guest58 Hello! I'm limafresh and I wanted to ask if everything is okay with my mod. I uploaded a mod to ContentDB, weighing only 13 KB, and it hasn't been accepted for five days. Sorry if this is a stupid or inappropriate question; this is my first time uploading a mod. 17:24 MTDiscord ill look tonight the size is irrelevant unless its huge 17:47 bgstack15 Guest58: the mods are all volunteers, and they have to find spare time to moderate all the cool stuff that comes in to ContentDB. 5 days is within the realm of normal that I've seen. 17:47 bgstack15 I would get concerned after probably 14 days. 17:49 Guest58 Okay, fine. Is it possible to update the mod with new commits (I have a rolling model) during the review period, or is it not recommended? 17:51 MTDiscord sure, your new release will be delayed till its approved unless you manually make it 17:52 MTDiscord bgstack15: the average approval time is 3 days, and its usually when i do them 17:52 MTDiscord i had other things this weekend, so somewhat delayed 🤷 17:53 bgstack15 wsor4035: In my experience, the average time was way longer than 3 days. 17:53 MTDiscord thats your experience, not the stats, so 🤷 17:53 bgstack15 You might have more data than I do, but my data across the 8 mods shows that the wait time was about 7 days. 17:54 MTDiscord i mean, given i approve most of them and see the numbers 🤷 17:54 MTDiscord at any rate, still doing better than the years the engine takes, so not super worried. would like to get back to where i used to be at some point 17:55 bgstack15 Well, it's definitely been my experience that it takes longer than 3 days. Perhaps I've always been on the long side of things. Everybody knows that mathematical mean has limited usefulness anyways. 17:55 bgstack15 wsor4035: I'm not familiar with all of your contributions; are you a core dev too? 17:55 MTDiscord lol, no, havent fallen for that trap 17:56 MTDiscord its currently 3.2 days on average for turn around 17:56 bgstack15 Why do you call being a core dev a trap? (Getting sucked into the politics?) 17:57 MTDiscord so uh, im a contentdb mod/editor (and do most of that), run directly and indirectly a number of servers, part of mt-mods, this discord mod, docs project member/"lead" sorta, website by proxy of docs 17:58 MTDiscord i think thats all of the luanti ones? 17:58 MTDiscord might have forgotten something 17:58 MTDiscord i prefer to stay in the shadows 17:58 MTDiscord oh, also engine triager (zughy does more than me) 17:59 MTDiscord so a partial indirect answer to your question :p 17:59 bgstack15 Ah, so you help curate the really useful lua_api.md ? 17:59 MTDiscord docs.luanti.org 17:59 bgstack15 I think that stuff is the basis of that docs.luanti.org but I find it easier to navigate just the giant markdown file 17:59 bgstack15 Oh, no that is different. I use docs.luanti.org too! Thank you for your contributions there. 18:01 MTDiscord docs.luanti.org has some api docs, but for now lua_api is the source of truth for the api. the docs or mostly everything else not api related 18:01 MTDiscord soliciting prs for docs project if you want to add or document sometihng 18:02 bgstack15 Er, I'm not so clever as to know stuff that isn't documented. 18:03 MTDiscord youll find some eventually 18:03 bgstack15 I haven't had any inspiration in a while; I don't have any mods in the pipeline or anything. 18:03 MTDiscord or just keep your ear to the ground. last thing i documented was cause someone came and asked about luanti on truenas 18:05 erle since documenting things may lead to them being removed, but also often the justification for removing things is “it was never documented”, there is a bit of tension in coming forward ;) 18:05 erle like, as soon as i revealed my mod that changed the main menu, that feature got patched out 18:09 erle btw, i think figured out why i didn't notice much banding without the dithering filter. rendering gamma-incorrectly mostly affects dark colors, because human eyes are typicall more sensitive to differences there. i can not distinguish dark colors very well. 18:09 bgstack15 I've experienced that (in non-luanti) things too. 18:09 bgstack15 erle: I guess you're not a GNOME fan, then, with all their deprecating of things people seemed to use. 18:10 erle bgstack15 it's a common thing in “the documentation is the code” that people decide “no, but not like that” 18:10 erle bgstack15 GNOME is WAY worse than luanti lol 18:10 erle but yes, not a fan 18:10 erle last i checked, every single time they rewrite a component, all bugs related to that component are closed with “reopen if you still find this happening” 18:11 erle as far as i can tell, without checking anything 18:12 erle bgstack15 i prefer “technology with warts”, as in: either everything was gotten right the first time or you carry old baggage forever and offer a clear upgrade path. e.g. the “referer” in HTTP is mis-spelled (it should be “referrer” i think), but no one ever corrected the typo because it would cause technical issues for an aesthetic gain only 18:12 erle bgstack15 of course, some old baggage can be shed, if you design the system from the start to do so. old algorithsms in TLS for example can be taken out and shot. 18:16 erle bgstack15 there are very clear cases where i think it is good to break compat, because users definitely suffer otherwise, think of “rm -rf /” shenanigans. but usually devs break stuff for their own sake only. 18:25 Krock erle: https://i.postimg.cc/BZxxZjdG/grafik.png 18:26 Krock of all times you decide to timeout now? 19:48 Krock hmm yearly profile picture change, sfan5 ? 19:48 sfan5 baguette 19:48 Krock baguette 19:50 Krock https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgNPCKuX9ds 19:50 sfan5 !title 19:50 sfan5 wait where's the bot 19:50 Krock ~title 19:50 ShadowBot - YouTube 19:50 Krock yes 20:49 MTDiscord YouTube 21:05 Desour baguette 21:05 Desour https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MK-Kp7U5SxY