Time Nick Message 01:47 [MatrxMT] no guys, it's not a launcher, it's a windows installer. It gets run once and then the program is installed, and for convenience it might open it immediately afterwards 01:48 user333_ i was half right then 01:48 [MatrxMT] a launcher is a program that you launch before you launch the real program, also known as a complete waste of time unless the software is complicated to install 01:48 user333_ sfan5 used the wrong term i assume? 01:48 [MatrxMT] yes, a mistake 01:49 [MatrxMT] good programs like notepad++ can just update themselves from within the program. Bad programs like M*necr*ft use the launcher as an excuse to hype you for buying more product before they let you play their product 01:50 user333_ thankfully pirating m1necr@ft is somewhat easier because you just need a modified launcher ;) 01:50 [MatrxMT] pirating Luanti is pretty easy 01:51 user333_ yeah, you just need to press 2 buttons and you have it for free 01:52 [MatrxMT] hahaha they finally deleted Luanti 5.2 on Microsoft Store it looks like 01:52 [MatrxMT] that was $5 iirc 01:52 user333_ what 01:52 user333_ why 01:52 user333_ who would charge for it 01:52 user333_ you can get it for free RIGHT HERE: https://www.luanti.org/en/downloads/ 01:53 [MatrxMT] someone who wants money. I mean there's no rule against it. And maybe it worked for someone who was stck in windows S Mode 01:53 user333_ so basically you pay them to get an obsolete version of a free game engine 01:53 [MatrxMT] yeah the worst part is they never even updated it lol 01:54 user333_ i mean it's the same idea as putting a free linux distro (like debian) on a usb and selling it 01:55 [MatrxMT] anyway Minecr*ft people are used to using a launcher for keeping different modded instances, where the launcher downloads all the mods in the pack for you 01:55 user333_ i could put a link to a pirated copy of minecraft right here 01:55 mrcheese lol 01:55 mrcheese >:) 01:55 user333_ but i wont 01:55 [MatrxMT] it would be nice if something like this https://gist.github.com/shrimpza/257edfa331eb9fc90524ac863d84ff34 were in the GUI 01:55 [MatrxMT] yeah please don't, DMCA 01:56 mrcheese ;-; 01:57 [MatrxMT] the main problem with pirated Minecraft is you can only play multiplayer with friends who run it in offline mode, or offline mod servers with all the kinds of people who play on those servers... 01:57 [MatrxMT] *offline mode 01:58 user333_ yeah i found that rq, i wanted to join a MC server and advertise luanti lol 01:58 mrcheese LOL 01:58 mrcheese how to be set on fire in the MC community 01:59 [MatrxMT] I think it's slightly funny to censor M1n3cr**t anyway :P 01:59 user333_ and the companies that own it 01:59 mrcheese yea lol 01:59 user333_ like M!cr0s0ft 02:00 mrcheese M!c0sofτ 02:00 [MatrxMT] Micro$oft 02:03 user333_ M!cr0$0ft 02:03 [MatrxMT] what version are you guys on? you keep up to date, 5.14? 02:03 mrcheese hmm... M!cr0$0fτ 02:04 mrcheese im currently on 5.14-dev 02:04 mrcheese plan to upgrade to modded 5.15-dev 02:04 [MatrxMT] μικροσοφ 02:05 [MatrxMT] *μικροσοφτ 02:05 [MatrxMT] that's probably wrong anyway, I barely know greek alphabet 02:05 mrcheese lol 02:05 [MatrxMT] I just have it as a keyboard layout for, reasons... 02:05 mrcheese ... 02:07 mrcheese lol i google 'μικροσοφτ to english', and get results for: "Microsoft translator" x3... nvm like the whole page is just microsoft translators xD 02:08 [MatrxMT] it's just respelled into the greek alphabet 02:12 mrcheese lol 06:53 SwissalpS jonadab: https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/pull/13146 :shift-click holding same item to move them all 06:54 SwissalpS (except the one attached to mouse, needs another couple clicks for that) 06:55 SwissalpS also left-double-click on an item to pick up all items of same type (max-stack limited) 09:30 sfan5 user333_: I wasn't sure whether to call it an installer or launcher because it's not like the usual installer *or* launcher 09:30 sfan5 but I guess @Blockhead256 is right that it's an installer 09:30 sfan5 just a silent one 17:21 jonadab SwissalpS: Oh, _nice_ 17:28 jonadab I guess I should update, then :-) 17:31 SwissalpS for that and many other improvements ;) 17:32 celeron55 that's june 2023 = 5.13, right? 17:32 celeron55 wait no, not even close 17:32 celeron55 5.8 17:33 SwissalpS yeah it sure has been a while, long enough that I can say "it works" :D 17:36 jonadab Yeah, yeah, I haven't updated in a while. I'll do that soon. 17:39 celeron55 an old version being worth using is a compliment to the project. many pieces of software have a fairly short shelf life 17:40 SwissalpS true, true 17:40 celeron55 but i do still hope you find the new version better 8-) 20:33 MinetestBot 02[git] 04sfan5 -> 03luanti-org/luanti: Fix errors with fs::RecursiveDelete() on paths that don't exist 132ecd127 https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/commit/2ecd127f96d3ddd3aaa2c2a8e5dd9d74936dc2f5 (152025-12-10T20:32:05Z) 20:33 MinetestBot 02[git] 04Wuzzy2 -> 03luanti-org/luanti: Remove hardcoded color of infobox in /help (#16727) 13876dfb1 https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/commit/876dfb1eb9eb69f4f7541e5da5b35e077ee01ee1 (152025-12-10T20:32:42Z) 20:33 MinetestBot 02[git] 04Zughy -> 03luanti-org/luanti: Breakages: split fog from sky functions 1387669f9 https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/commit/87669f982c9d998ca68c86bb50fdb66a8a75fb87 (152025-12-10T20:32:53Z) 21:42 jonadab Hmm, updating seems to have made minetestmapper not exist. Has it been renamed, or do I need to change my build script to ensure it gets built still, or what? 21:43 jonadab (The version I was previously using, was before the name change to "luanti"...) 21:46 rubenwardy platform? 21:46 rubenwardy oh are you expecting this as part of building Luanti? 21:47 jonadab Oh, I see, it's a separate repo. Hmm, is that a change? 21:47 jonadab Nevermind, I'll figure it out from there. 21:47 jonadab (Platform is Devuan as it happens, but that's probably irrelevant here.) 21:47 rubenwardy yeah there used to be a version in the Luanti engine repo but it was removed 21:47 rubenwardy it's now a separate repo 21:48 jonadab Ok, I'll just grab that repo too, and either adjust my existing build script or add a second one for just the mapper. 21:48 jonadab Minor adjustments. 22:28 jonadab Hmm. I may need to update my world, to use it with this new version. That may be why the mapper is getting an exception, too. 22:28 jonadab Something about sqlite 3. I will look into it later. 22:39 sfan5 i mean the time when minetestmapper was part of the repo is long gone 22:40 sfan5 0.4.x 22:40 jonadab Oh, hmm. 22:40 jonadab Dunno, maybe I was using an old version of it? 22:40 jonadab But I'm confused about where it went then, dunno. 22:41 jonadab I seem to have already had a (not-up-to-date) local copy of the minetestmapper repo, but lacked a build script for it, until now. Dunno what that means about how I was using it. 22:42 sfan5 dunno 22:42 sfan5 either way you just need this https://github.com/luanti-org/minetestmapper 22:44 jonadab Oh, hmm. 22:44 jonadab That is not the same repo that I have. Or, at least, not at the same address. 22:45 jonadab Probably because I cloned the repo before the term "luanti" was coined. 22:45 jonadab Let me see if that makes any difference. 22:47 jonadab Yeah, that was not the issue though. Wouldn't have explained the error the new version of the server is giving me, in any case. 22:47 jonadab I'll look into the sqlite3 thing later, and the mod dependency warnings (which shouldn't have changed...) 23:51 cheapie wsor4035: that was fast 23:52 MTDiscord what happens when im around and its a sane/not stupid request 23:52 cheapie Initially I wasn't really going to bother (I could use the positive non-reviews anyway :P) but it was getting annoying :P 23:53 MTDiscord we need the your a dumbass song for people who make bug reports as reviews despite the banner above review literally telling you not to do so 23:54 MTDiscord to be fair to the person in question, this was more for questions and making a cdb thread isnt the most obvious thing