Time Nick Message 05:29 MTDiscord D has been mentioned 05:32 cheapie Added yet more extensions, Zilsd and Zclsd 05:33 cheapie Which unfortunately have nothing to do with drugs :P 10:13 Farooq Hello Hello. Is S("Line1@nLine2") a valid translation string? 10:14 Farooq There is a bug. But I'm not sure if the bug is on me side with the game lua code or with the engine. Assuming that the above expression is valid, when an items short description is not defined and that is used as its description, the engine errors with the string 10:20 Farooq actually lemme finish the reproduction lua code 10:26 sfan5 https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/issues/12566 10:39 Farooq oh shoot 10:40 Farooq sfan5, thank you 10:55 [MatrxMT] Farooq: Line 1\nLine 2 10:55 [MatrxMT] Nevermind 12:25 MinetestBot 02[git] 04y5nw -> 03luanti-org/luanti: Do not send translation files without a language extension (#17187) 1304f8a0b https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/commit/04f8a0bf57f013378f3c51ced3c3935a3fe48a34 (152026-05-17T12:24:55Z) 17:55 cheapie Heh, someone's reaction here after being convinced to upgrade from 5.10 to 5.15 or later (they ended up with 5.15.2): <%VE-Creative> HOLY <%VE-Creative> ITS SMOOTH <%VE-Creative> OH MY GOD 18:09 sfan5 what motivates people to not upgrade, I wonder 18:12 ireallyhateirc they love stable bugs and exploits 18:13 ireallyhateirc this reminds me I should update the luanti package in guix 18:26 cheapie sfan5: Ubuntu only ships 5.10 for some unknown reason 18:27 cheapie (probably because Debian stable is doing the same) 18:28 sfan5 yeah and debian is doing that because they have no resources to keep the package up to date 18:30 ireallyhateirc their packaging model is pretty bad and lacks reproducibility, I think only this year did they announce future versions should ship reproducible packages 18:31 ireallyhateirc hmm funnily enough Nix doesn't ship up to date Luanti either, they ship 5.14.0 18:35 sfan5 the debian idea that you can update a software once in a while and backport a few fixes inbetween (which they're not even doing) doesn't fit a game/game engine at all 18:37 ireallyhateirc I just discovered something, idk what's the state of Appimages + luanti, but there's this: `guix pack -f appimage --relocatable --entry-point=bin/luanti luanti` 18:38 ireallyhateirc the appimage seems to work 18:40 ireallyhateirc I keep the guix package up to date, so this could be a viable option to generate luanti appimages reproducibly, if there's any interest in this 18:42 SwissalpS fedora 42 has 5.15.2-1 18:43 cheapie Debian sid has 5.15.2 but I just compile from source instead 18:43 ireallyhateirc guix has also 5.15.2 because I was too busy to bump it, but at least the security fixes are there 18:44 ireallyhateirc could update tomorrow I guess 18:54 SwissalpS personally I build-in-place anyway so I can have multiple version clients to test etc. 18:55 SwissalpS it's a lot of work for distros to keep up with all kinds of software, not just games. 18:56 SwissalpS at least those that have a reputation for testing everything 19:30 bgstack15 The Debian stable follks target servers. They don't target desktop systems very well. Desktop systems don't benefit very much from sticking to a single version and point release of a software title. 19:33 sfan5 luanti servers also don't benefit from being stuck on a 3 year old version 19:34 ireallyhateirc I may be wrong, but a lot of this stability and security seems to be copium. e.g. the xz utils backdoor slipped in without anyone noticing for some time 19:39 sfan5 I don't mind the stability idea for system software and other tools that basically do the same task in the last 10 years. But it's totally unsuitable for Luanti and a wide range of other software. 19:39 sfan5 even firefox-esr has a release cycle shorter than debian 19:40 cheapie ireallyhateirc: That one didn't actually make it to stable 19:40 ireallyhateirc ah, that's good then 19:40 ireallyhateirc but was it actually discovered by debian maintainers or just someone random? 19:41 cheapie It was apparently discovered by Microsoft when testing something on Debian sidh 19:41 cheapie sid* 19:42 cheapie Whether the person who found it was actually doing something for work (Microsoft) or for their own personal use I'm not sure 23:53 Thermoriax I don't suppose there's a mod to give admins a repl? :) 23:58 [MatrxMT] Thermoriax: most people use WorldEdit's `//lua` 23:59 Thermoriax hmm, thanks 23:59 [MatrxMT] Debug mod [dbg] is a bit better of an actual REPL although it blocks itself being run in multiplayer unless you hack it 23:59 Thermoriax I have worldedit, but I don't think I've ever used it in luanti, just minecraft long ago.