Time  Nick             Message
05:59 MTDiscord        <sheriff_u3> Here's an idea: native fennel support, or in other words: have the engine compile fennel at runtime.
06:46 sfan5            wtf is fennel?
06:52 Menchers         lisp implemented in and compiling to lua
10:32 MTDiscord        <luatic> there have been a bunch of such suggestions with different languages targeting lua. my opinion hasn't changed: these are mostly better off as mods. the engine should provide the primitives to make that possible, and it does, but no more.
10:32 MTDiscord        <luatic> the only remaining issues are minor qol things, like the engine expecting init.lua.
10:33 celeron55        i agree. please submit issues if the engine prevents taking those kinds of converters into use, but don't expect them to come as part of the engine
10:33 MTDiscord        <luatic> additionally, you can simply do the transpilation in a build step, e.g. using make. i believe loria did something like this?
11:14 rubenwardy       we should support wasm and then not ship with any language support :)
11:21 Izzy             technically, that would be supporting wasm bytecode as the language, no? :p
14:04 MinetestBot      02[git] 04appgurueu -> 03luanti-org/luanti: Support multi-track animations (#16653) 13f751818 https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/commit/f7518186932883513d82ba4e655268c54d1f9eea (152026-06-29T14:02:55Z)
14:04 MinetestBot      02[git] 04j-r -> 03luanti-org/luanti: Correctly convert node pos to block pos in `findSunlight` (#17298) 13e7d7ff7 https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/commit/e7d7ff7053ef62ee9f55af3d320d77f0ff697ff4 (152026-06-29T14:03:55Z)
14:04 MinetestBot      02[git] 04appgurueu -> 03luanti-org/luanti: Fix possible out-of-bounds write in `InventoryList::deSerialize()` 13e0854e0 https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/commit/e0854e07403f77239dcbf184fc635baad3fb703b (152026-06-29T14:04:17Z)
14:04 MinetestBot      02[git] 04appgurueu -> 03luanti-org/luanti: Harden Irrlicht `.x` mesh file loader 131c70a7f https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/commit/1c70a7f4eb9e6b80f8c14fa647b5e78c6fce4a78 (152026-06-29T14:04:17Z)
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16:15 Krock            Is there any neat trick to figure out whether a value is of type InvRef, ItemStack or ObjectRef?
16:16 Krock            probably not because `core.is_player` tests for `value.is_player`
16:18 sfan5            tostring
16:18 sfan5            ?
16:19 sfan5            a reasonable way would be "getmetatable(obj) == ObjectRef" but we don't expose metatables like that
16:25 Krock            Right... I'll instead attempt the "best guess" by proving against get_stack_max
16:28 sfan5            hm `ItemStack` is a function, which is a bit inconvenient for what I claimed would be the reasonable way
16:28 sfan5            Krock: you can `local itemstack_mt = getmetatable(ItemStack(""))` and then compare that later
16:48 Krock            good idea. thanks.
16:50 MTDiscord        <luatic> it should be getmetatable(obj) == Class, yes. we can make that happen.
16:51 MTDiscord        <luatic> ItemStack(...) is not really a problem, it can be done just fine using __call. New classes should avoid this kind of constructor though.
16:57 sfan5            what would you use instead? `ItemStack:new(...)`?
17:00 MTDiscord        <luatic> ItemStack.new would be my first choice
17:01 MTDiscord        <luatic> though i would also consider separating it out into more specific constructors
20:19 Sheriff_U3       How many toolranks mods do we need? :) https://content.luanti.org/packages/?q=toolranks
20:20 sfan5            !mod toolranks
20:20 MinetestBot      sfan5: Mod: Tool Ranks [toolranks] by lisacvuk - https://content.luanti.org/packages/lisacvuk/toolranks/
20:20 sfan5            the algoritm™ favors this one
20:21 Sheriff_U3       but mine is downloaded for dependencies :)
20:29 Sheriff_U3       One thing that is concerning though is that the one mod that depends on toolranks is Toolranks Extras. It is unsupported by my mod so the fact that it's downloading mine to satisfy the depends is alarming.
20:33 MTDiscord        <et086> can we make unified tool ranks already
20:35 Sheriff_U3       Is there anything that I can do to prevent that, short of renaming the mod or calling error() when it's found?
20:37 Sheriff_U3       et086: Go ahead an start one lol.
20:39 MTDiscord        <et086> i wish i wanted to xD
22:19 cheapie          hmm
22:19 cheapie          !mod elevator
22:19 MinetestBot      cheapie: Mod: Realtime Elevator [elevator] by shacknetisp - https://content.luanti.org/packages/shacknetisp/elevator/
22:19 cheapie          I see, must go by actual mod name
22:33 MinetestBot      02[git] 04sfan5 -> 03luanti-org/luanti: Add logging to Android Java parts 139bcde3e https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/commit/9bcde3e78de593a1746d03b0da7b9eed32a7d867 (152026-06-29T22:33:21Z)
23:40 farribeiro|irccl the client is crashing against the lastest commit
23:41 farribeiro|irccl hello folks!
23:42 farribeiro|irccl `/usr/include/c++/15.2.0/bits/stl\_algo.h:3638: constexpr const \_Tp& std::clamp(const \_Tp&, const \_Tp&, const \_Tp&) \[with \_Tp = float\]: Assertion '!(\_\_hi \< \_\_lo)' failed.`