Time Nick Message 01:49 MTDiscord When is 5.17.0 planned to be released? 02:59 MTDiscord Probably not for another month or two I think... 03:29 MTDiscord Not too bad 08:46 [MatrxMT] bgstack15: I just use gnome-characters manually, not enough emojis in my life to warrant a fast input method 08:49 sfan5 https://x0.at/3T2q.png my IRC client is prepared but I don't have global emoji input 08:58 [MatrxMT] ✨️ Here in Element there's the handy emoji button—it's **so** useful for quickly enhancing your text, and **it's not just for your text**: you can even use it for reactions! 08:59 [MatrxMT] gotta sneak some misinformation there as well 11:07 MinetestBot 02[git] 04appgurueu -> 03luanti-org/luanti: Fix local animation mess 1349fce5c https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/commit/49fce5c7b741d6025d98a15f93c11bb54f763012 (152026-07-08T11:06:15Z) 11:07 MinetestBot 02[git] 04appgurueu -> 03luanti-org/luanti: Use 1-based index in track nr. OOB warning message 137595061 https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/commit/7595061855c39827c7d54ffb6b6d1dad9235df2e (152026-07-08T11:06:15Z) 11:07 MinetestBot 02[git] 04appgurueu -> 03luanti-org/luanti: Refactor: Use `LocalPlayerAnimation::COUNT` as array limit 137ff7fe0 https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/commit/7ff7fe0d14efb6981c7db11758965c78287cebfa (152026-07-08T11:06:15Z) 11:07 MinetestBot 02[git] 04appgurueu -> 03luanti-org/luanti: Support older AO_CMD_SET_ANIMATION_SPEED correctly 13fc47cfd https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/commit/fc47cfd86b8285918661d7bab795967e5c619282 (152026-07-08T11:06:15Z) 11:07 MinetestBot 02[git] (1 newer commits not shown) 12:58 mazes_84 minetest.org no longer redirects to luanti.org, still related to minetest community or not ? 13:00 user333_ i believe that is a partially related site with a lot of history 13:00 user333_ pretend it doesn't exist 13:04 mazes_84 another side effect of the rebranding 13:04 mazes_84 some user may still seek for minetest and get to the other site 13:05 sfan5 you mean minetest.net? 13:05 sfan5 dot org was never the minetest domain 13:06 mazes_84 ah yes forgot 13:06 mazes_84 still this may confuse some old users still referring the game as minetest 13:07 user333_ unfortunately it's not under control of anyone in the luanti project 13:07 mazes_84 and was same before rebrand 13:12 user333_ that site has a long history, it's closely related to https://forum.luanti.org/viewtopic.php?t=18946 13:13 user333_ basically someone trying to take over the project (and failing, eventually) 14:22 bgstack15 Maybe that (assumedly old, due to the font size choices...) guy can just have "minetest." THe project is now named Luanti after all. 14:29 MTDiscord no we still have minetest game 15:24 mazes_84 and config/mods/worlds/games ... still lays in ${HOME}/.minetest by default 16:08 sfan5 https://x0.at/sLkP.png visualizing how luanti loads blocks is quite interesting 17:18 sfan5 https://x0.at/uN19.png not confusing at all 17:44 sfan5 https://x0.at/lDrx.png when the mapgen needs to generate a new chunk you get funny squares 17:47 MTDiscord mapchunks 18:13 Sheriff_U3 What happens when a mod includes both .po and .tr files in the locale dir? 18:15 crazylad I think it just picks one format and uses it, but I'm not sure 18:17 Sheriff_U3 So it will not detect that a client supports only the .tr and send it only those and if it supports .po then send it only the .po files? 18:27 crazylad from my understanding, the server will send all translation files (both formats) since it is just regular media, and then the client picks the best one to use, preferably the .po format if the client supports it (>= 5.10.0), otherwise it picks the .tr format 18:58 [MatrxMT]_ I _think_ both files are loaded, but the behavior is undefined if both files contain different translations for the same entry 19:00 [MatrxMT]_ (I think the behavior is generally undefined if two files contain different translations for the same entry with the same textdomain) 19:15 bgstack15 Does anybody here use the "remote media" feature? 19:16 sfan5 no but I understand it 19:30 MTDiscord i did when s0fars media server still existed 19:31 MTDiscord its probably only super useful if you have giant media since luanti is shit (takes forever) to transfer them (citation needed) 19:35 sfan5 define giant 19:35 sfan5 but in principle, yes 19:38 MTDiscord what is that 19:48 MTDiscord idk, would have to dig up chat logs when looking at several servers and wondering why they took a while to load, ctf being the last one iirc. few mb? dunno. http transfer via browser was faster 19:58 sfan5 the network code in luanti is really bad so it's probably a good idea to use remote media if your game exceeds 15 MB 21:21 user333_ there appears to be a server on the serverlist full of bots (like 170 of them) to get a high rank on the serverlist 21:25 crazylad o_O 21:26 sfan5 did you check 21:26 user333_ very top on https://servers.luanti.org/ , a little bit of scrolling in the client 21:27 MTDiscord At least they are running it on v5.16.1 :P 21:27 sfan5 no I mean did you join the server to check if those clients are bots? 21:28 user333_ it appears so 21:28 user333_ they all have names in lowercase_with_underscores and put out a few LLM-generated messages 21:29 MTDiscord https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/749727888659447960/1524527787585704107/image.png?ex=6a5012a4&is=6a4ec124&hm=6357fae2f91c715bb3380ddaf02671bc54cf6d2539be427bfc050e09960ffa02& 21:30 sfan5 I don't speak chinese so how do we know what those messages say 21:30 MTDiscord they are running only default MTG... 21:31 user333_ they are definitely bots of some sort 21:32 user333_ all of them constantly telling us stuff in english and chinese 21:33 MTDiscord you sure it's not just some chinese influencer that's bringing in their audience to break a record or something? they have internet culture and charismatic influencers too 🤷 21:33 MTDiscord Just a wall of bones... 21:33 MTDiscord https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/749727888659447960/1524528976813494332/image.png?ex=6a5013c0&is=6a4ec240&hm=63a21293a46c8307ab725c23a0ba6df33c27d213498360461827441a5e6712b1& 21:34 user333_ all from the bots 21:35 user333_ message logs https://user333.sweeux.org/p/user333/a0ec46bb5d6041dcb9614cb868505525 21:35 user333_ (_s and iamtroubled are me/crazylad) 21:36 sfan5 that does look pretty automated yeah 21:36 sfan5 thanks 21:36 user333_ np 21:37 [MatrxMT]_ a lot of games do have servers with bots to make it feel more lived in and less empty, but reporting them as actual players should always be a nono 21:37 MTDiscord ok yes, yeah that looks very bot-y 21:37 user333_ and 170 of them? 21:44 MTDiscord They seem to be using a modified version of MTG as /help is messed up. 21:45 MTDiscord Is there anything that can be done about it though? 21:51 [MatrxMT]_ servers have been banned off the list before, it can be done again 21:52 MTDiscord Hope that one gets banned. 21:52 user333_ it's now at the bottom of the list so i assume sfan5 did something 21:54 user333_ on the serverlist webpage at least, in the client it's at the bottom of the servers with more than 1 user 21:54 crazylad yea