Time Nick Message
00:21 NekoGloop hello cornernote
00:22 Uberi hey cornernote
00:23 NekoGloop is there a function to make the game interpret a nodemeta inventory as a craftgrid easily?
00:24 Uberi yeah, get_craft_result
00:24 NekoGloop no i mean have it be treated EXACTLY like the player craftgrid
00:25 NekoGloop hm... i have a slightly hacky way to do this, but it should work
00:26 NekoGloop ugh...
00:26 NekoGloop this lua api is shit
00:27 NekoGloop this would be impossibly easy to add in C++.
00:27 NekoGloop but lua its impossible.
00:33 NekoGloop ok this is being stupid
00:42 NekoGloop http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=44913#p44913
00:43 NekoGloop ... anyone here?
00:44 ecube no
00:44 NekoGloop lol
00:45 NekoGloop was that at my question or my topic?
00:46 ecube your question.
00:47 NekoGloop and your thoughts on the topic?
00:47 ecube No. We don't need more crafting inventories. ^_^
00:47 ecube it would be strange and alien to have them.
00:48 ecube And also, at the end of it, no. its not.
00:48 NekoGloop the end of it?
00:48 NekoGloop isnt a question.
00:48 NekoGloop unless you mean my sig :P
00:48 ecube yes, that's what i mean. :P
00:49 NekoGloop lol
00:49 NekoGloop why cant we have crafting grids?
00:50 NekoGloop I mainly want to have it for my gamemode.
00:51 NekoGloop also, as said in the post, I want workbench to be improved
00:51 NekoGloop so :P
00:53 MiJyn hi again
01:14 Octupus Hi
01:15 MiJyn hi Octupus
01:15 NekoGloop I'm waiting for a junglegrass to grow to see if my little code thingy worked
01:17 Octupus My iPod is jailbroken :)
01:17 Octupus Untethered
01:17 NekoGloop what iOS?
01:18 Octupus 5.1.1
01:19 NekoGloop heh
01:19 NekoGloop 6.0 bitchez
01:19 NekoGloop on an iPad 2
01:19 Octupus Lol
01:19 Octupus I used absinthe jailbreak
01:19 NekoGloop http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3216 anyone wanna comment?
01:20 Octupus Easiest jailbreak ever
01:21 Octupus Untethered is the best :D
01:21 NakedFury jailbreak any way is better
01:21 NekoGloop how do i go about making a table into a string?
01:21 NakedFury otherwise icrap to the max
01:21 Octupus Tethered is ahitty
01:21 Octupus Shitty
01:22 NekoGloop anyone know how to turn a table into a string?
01:22 Octupus Nope
01:22 Octupus Sky block?
01:22 NekoGloop no
01:22 NekoGloop for testing
01:23 Octupus Hmmmmm
01:23 NekoGloop i want to show myself what groups a node has
01:23 Octupus Oh
01:23 NekoGloop lol i mean lua coding XD
01:23 Octupus Lol ask coder
01:23 Octupus He might be able to help
01:23 NekoGloop i dont think he does anything with the lua
01:24 NekoGloop cornernote: do you know how to turn a table into a string?
01:24 NekoGloop or print a table, somehow?
01:24 Octupus Ask Pilz or something
01:24 NekoGloop found it
01:24 Octupus Colloquy is the best
01:24 VanessaE you men "Ask Adam or something"
01:25 VanessaE he doesn't like being called just "Pilz" for some reason.
01:25 Octupus Oh ok
01:25 Octupus VanessaE: I liked your schematic of your home
01:25 NakedFury plizadam
01:27 VanessaE thanks :-)
01:27 NekoGloop ok then
01:27 Octupus No
01:27 Octupus No
01:27 NekoGloop dump(pointed_thing.groups) returns nil?
01:27 Octupus np
01:27 NekoGloop ALL the time?
01:28 Octupus Stupid typos
01:29 NekoGloop or, rather, returns a string containing nil
01:29 NekoGloop containing literally "nil"
01:29 Octupus Hm
01:30 NekoGloop VanessaE: any ideas?
01:30 VanessaE no clue, I've never used that function
01:30 Octupus Because Linus uses c does it be slower
01:31 Octupus linux
01:31 VanessaE no
01:31 Octupus Ok
01:31 Octupus What pc use Linux
01:31 VanessaE any PC can run linux.
01:32 VanessaE I run it on three machines here (one is a spare) plus my laptop
01:32 Octupus :o
01:32 Octupus :0
01:32 VanessaE anyone whi has an Android device like a samsung tablet etc also runs linux
01:32 VanessaE who*
01:32 Octupus Ohhh
01:32 Octupus Stupid smileys
01:32 NekoGloop well that is a stupid way to use pointed_thing
01:33 NekoGloop Octupus: you can turn them off in Settings
01:33 VanessaE (though those aren't general-purpose devices so I dunno just how capable they are in a general sense)
01:33 Octupus Oh
01:33 VanessaE someone should port minetest to Android :-)
01:33 Octupus That ways have a lot of lag
01:33 NekoGloop pointed_thing contains NOTHING about the node you are pointing at, but rather the under pos and above pos, and type of thing
01:35 Octupus What about mt on apple
01:35 NekoGloop possible
01:36 VanessaE someone's been working on compiling it for Mac but no idea how far they've gotten yet
01:36 NekoGloop would require jailbreak/someone to get off their ass and get it on the app store
01:36 Octupus O
01:36 Octupus I got the jailbreak but I can't compile it :)
01:37 OldCoder Back for a bit
01:37 Octupus Hi cody
01:37 OldCoder Ha
01:37 NekoGloop i dont have jailbreak :P
01:37 OldCoder Octupus, hello
01:37 Octupus TYPOS
01:37 Octupus AH
01:37 OldCoder NekoGloop, Hi
01:39 NekoGloop what is the function to call a certain node's nodedef?
01:39 Octupus I can't remember
01:40 NekoGloop e.g. to grab the nodedef of default:dirt_with_grass when you only have the name of it
01:40 VanessaE minetest.env:get_node(pos)
01:40 NekoGloop that returns a certain mapnode
01:40 VanessaE so if you do: a = minetest.env:get_node(pos)
01:40 VanessaE then a.name = the node's name
01:40 NekoGloop not a nodedef
01:40 NekoGloop but what do i do with a.name then?
01:41 NekoGloop I want to check a's groups, for example
01:41 VanessaE then read a.groups I guess
01:41 NekoGloop a.groups returns nil
01:41 VanessaE oh.
01:41 NekoGloop dump(a) would return only three things
01:41 VanessaE not sure what all you can get from it
01:41 NekoGloop param, name, and param2
01:41 NekoGloop oh, am I stupid
01:42 VanessaE minetest.get_item_group(name,"what you want")
01:42 NekoGloop I can just do minetest.registered_nodes[a.name].groups
01:42 NekoGloop VanessaE: i want all of them
01:42 VanessaE the quoted string being the name of the group you want to look for
01:42 VanessaE oh.
01:42 VanessaE you don't want much eh? :-)
01:43 NekoGloop for testing
01:43 NekoGloop yay it works
01:44 NekoGloop wait whaT?
01:44 VanessaE ?
01:44 NekoGloop junglegrass seems to have param=13
01:44 VanessaE ?
01:44 NekoGloop dirt_with_grass has param=0
01:44 NekoGloop wtF?
01:44 VanessaE no clue, I didn't set anything like that
01:44 OldCoder frogcrush, wb
01:44 VanessaE but,
01:44 NekoGloop not your junglegrass
01:44 VanessaE you need to interpret paramtype first.
01:44 NekoGloop default:junglegrass
01:44 frogcrush oldcoder, thx
01:45 NekoGloop I'm not doing anything with param
01:45 NekoGloop i just noticed it
01:45 VanessaE whatever paramtype is, use that string to decide what the number in param means.
01:45 VanessaE ok
01:45 VanessaE my junglegrass mod uses default:junglegrass :-)
01:45 Octupus :)
01:46 NekoGloop it also uses smaller variations
01:46 NekoGloop XD
01:46 VanessaE yup
01:46 NekoGloop i made it dump the nodedef
01:46 NekoGloop holy shit there's a lot in it
01:46 NekoGloop let's dump the nodedef of a furnace now
01:47 VanessaE ok,
01:47 VanessaE I need your help
01:47 VanessaE I think. :-)
01:47 NekoGloop aw
01:47 NekoGloop ok
01:47 NekoGloop go on
01:47 VanessaE you're fairly versed on using formspec
01:47 NekoGloop not really but i can try
01:47 NekoGloop what do you need?
01:47 VanessaE and you've dealt with inventories, right?
01:47 NekoGloop uh... a little
01:47 NekoGloop what are we getting at?
01:48 VanessaE I want to add small-ish inventories to the nightstands in Home Decor
01:48 NekoGloop ah, i see.
01:48 NekoGloop well that's simple.
01:48 NekoGloop copy chest code, and I'll tell you what to change
01:48 VanessaE maybe enough to store say 8 slots in the one-drawer version and 16 in the two-drawer ones.
01:48 NekoGloop kk
01:48 VanessaE stand by,.
01:48 NekoGloop you will first want to look at on_construct.
01:49 VanessaE celeron55-minetest-9696ed3 ... games ... minetest_game ...
01:49 VanessaE mods ... default ...
01:49 NekoGloop lol
01:49 VanessaE init.lua.
01:49 NekoGloop at 1196
01:49 NekoGloop (line)
01:49 VanessaE Find...
01:49 VanessaE "chest"
01:50 VanessaE next...next...next...next
01:50 NekoGloop XD
01:50 VanessaE found it.
01:50 VanessaE *gulp*
01:50 NekoGloop now look at on_construct
01:50 VanessaE I see it
01:50 NekoGloop it's simple, most of it is just to print when someone takes something out
01:50 NekoGloop (or puts something in)
01:50 NekoGloop anyway, on_construct
01:51 VanessaE 8; 4 = 8 slots * 4 rows?
01:51 NekoGloop yes but its more complicated
01:51 NekoGloop look at the formspec part
01:52 NekoGloop at this point, you may want to copy it to another file so you arent changing the default chest
01:52 VanessaE Ok, I've isolated the unlocked chest into a separate file.
01:52 NekoGloop ok
01:53 NekoGloop do you see the first meta:set_string in on_construct?
01:53 VanessaE yes
01:54 NekoGloop change the "size[8,9]" to "size[8,6]"
01:54 VanessaE why?
01:54 VanessaE what does it do?
01:54 NekoGloop it makes the window that appears smaller
01:54 VanessaE ah
01:54 NekoGloop having a lot of empty space is ugly
01:54 VanessaE ok, 8,6 now.
01:54 NekoGloop the next line will be the main part edited
01:55 NekoGloop change the LAST number in that line to 1
01:55 VanessaE "list[current_name;main;0,0;8,4;]".. --> "list[current_name;main;0,0;8,1;]"
01:55 VanessaE like so?
01:56 NekoGloop yes
01:56 VanessaE ok
01:56 NekoGloop next line
01:57 NekoGloop set it to this: "list[current_player;main;0,1;8,4;]" instead of "list[current_player;main;0,5;8,4;]"
01:57 NekoGloop this time, keep the last two numbers the same
01:57 NekoGloop these deal with the viewable player inventory; do not change those two numbers.
01:57 OldCoder What hours is thexyz here? I have an idea to improve my servers
01:57 VanessaE I gather what the 4->1 changes, but what does this change?
01:58 NekoGloop this change places the inventory closer to the "chest" inventory
01:58 NekoGloop OH WIAT
01:58 NekoGloop WAIT*
01:58 * VanessaE waits..
01:58 NekoGloop "list[current_player;main;0,2;8,4;]"
01:58 NekoGloop not 1, 2
01:58 VanessaE gotchya
01:58 VanessaE the first pair sets the position within the window
01:59 VanessaE what's the measurement used here?
01:59 NekoGloop yes
01:59 VanessaE obviously not pixels
01:59 NekoGloop it is spaces
01:59 VanessaE ok
01:59 VanessaE and set_size becomes 8.
01:59 NekoGloop so 0,1 is 0 spaces right, 1 space down
01:59 NekoGloop yes
01:59 NekoGloop for simplicity's sake, dont put math operators in nodedefs for static numbers.
02:00 VanessaE http://pastebin.com/QKAcBsv8
02:00 VanessaE oops
02:00 NekoGloop I havent tested, but i imagine this makes it slightly faster
02:00 VanessaE infotext needs changed I guess
02:00 NekoGloop well you can change that to whatever the fuck you want to
02:00 VanessaE changed. :-)
02:00 NekoGloop you could even make it say "EAT MY FOOT" if you wanted to
02:00 VanessaE now all this shit that prints to the log...is there really a point in putting that into my actual nodedef?
02:01 NekoGloop well it lets you track when a player puts something in a chest
02:01 VanessaE hmm..
02:01 NekoGloop since this is used commonly to try to dupe items.
02:01 VanessaE ok I'll keep it
02:01 NekoGloop it is a good idea to know who is attempting to dupe items
02:03 VanessaE ok, let's see what THIS breaks :D
02:03 NekoGloop now for one with two lines, I assume you dont need any help after that, correct? if you do, I am more than willing to give it. (my own code isnt working)
02:03 NekoGloop I'm TRYING to make a gamemode that is SOMEWHAT different from default minetest
02:03 VanessaE yeah, I think I got it now, this is not as complicated as I perceived.
02:03 NekoGloop the format is kinda wierd, but simple
02:04 VanessaE woohoo!
02:04 NekoGloop well i guess my junglegrass growing code works XD
02:04 VanessaE the one-drawer oak ones looks right
02:04 VanessaE but the "infotext" isn't displayed anywhere?
02:04 NekoGloop I now have a junglegrass TOWER
02:04 VanessaE OH
02:04 NekoGloop infotext is shown upon being moused over
02:04 VanessaE I see it
02:05 VanessaE I wonder...is 8 slots enough for a one-drawer nightstand?
02:05 VanessaE in total, it is made of three wood and one steel
02:05 NekoGloop hm...
02:05 NekoGloop that seems fine to me
02:05 VanessaE I want them to be smaller than chests because they're also cheaper
02:05 VanessaE ok
02:05 VanessaE a two-drawer nightstand is made of 5 wood and two steel
02:05 VanessaE so 16 slots?
02:06 NekoGloop well, two-drawer should be double anyway, so yes
02:06 VanessaE ok
02:06 NekoGloop wait a minute...
02:06 * VanessaE waits.
02:06 NekoGloop wasnt i the one who brought this up in the first place? :)
02:06 VanessaE I think so :-)
02:06 NekoGloop (with storing items in dressers)
02:06 VanessaE I just wasn't ready to attack it before :-)
02:07 NekoGloop you are now 2% better at lua. give yourself a pat on the back :3
02:08 VanessaE ok, for two drawers....size is 8,7, current_name gets 8,2 at the end, current_player gets 0,3 at the start, infotext gets "Two-drawer Nightstand", and set_size is 16
02:08 NekoGloop sounds about right.
02:08 OldCoder VanessaE, were the patches you wanted server or client side?
02:09 NekoGloop only problem is that already-placed nightstands will not have an inventory unless they are placed again
02:09 VanessaE patches for what?
02:09 VanessaE NekoGloop: small price to pay.
02:09 NekoGloop heh
02:09 NekoGloop well idk any good way to do that, so yeah
02:10 NekoGloop you could do an abm that checks if meta == nil and then sets it, but idk how efficient (or even working) this is
02:12 NekoGloop I'm trying to use dry shrub spawning code to make junglegrass appear :P
02:12 NekoGloop being rather successful
02:13 NekoGloop how do i find the number associated with a group?
02:13 VanessaE not sure
02:13 OldCoder VanessaE, there are patches you wanted. I promised to add them.
02:13 VanessaE OldCoder: I can't remember what they were
02:13 OldCoder You posted them in a thread
02:13 VanessaE you mean the gfx settings?
02:14 OldCoder I don't know
02:14 OldCoder That is the point
02:14 VanessaE those are all I can think of, and they're client-side stuff
02:14 OldCoder k
02:15 VanessaE yay, nightstand inventories work! :-)
02:15 VanessaE can I restrict them from being able to store certain things?
02:15 NekoGloop cool
02:15 NekoGloop uh..
02:15 NekoGloop not sure
02:15 VanessaE (like putting a nightstand inside a nightstand ;-) )
02:16 NekoGloop probably, but it's beyond me
02:16 NekoGloop you can put a chest in a chest :P
02:16 VanessaE yeah I know
02:16 VanessaE hammerspace!! :-)
02:16 NekoGloop but no massive chest-ception
02:16 NekoGloop because chests in inventory dont keep inventory
02:16 NekoGloop uh...
02:16 NekoGloop what was that code to check a node group again? :P
02:18 VanessaE minetest.get_item_group(name,"what you want")
02:18 NekoGloop i wonder if that returns the NUMBER of the group...
02:20 NekoGloop ugh, someone tell me how to use table.insert?
02:22 VanessaE homedecor has been updated with the new feature. YAY!
02:23 VanessaE table_insert(tablename, position, item to add)
02:23 NekoGloop kk
02:23 VanessaE table.insert(outimgs, "pipeworks_plain.png")
02:23 VanessaE if you leave out the position, the added item gets tacked onto the end.
02:25 NekoGloop ok, the function DOES return the number of the group
02:26 VanessaE it's supposed to :-)
02:26 NekoGloop and returns 0 if the group is not in it
02:26 VanessaE the api says to treat nil as equivalent to 0 btw.
02:27 VanessaE in the case of groups values
02:27 NekoGloop i know
02:27 NekoGloop this will help for growing of plants
02:27 NekoGloop i can specify the maximum height right in the nodedef/groups
02:28 NekoGloop I have no idea why i even made a group called grow_near_lava
02:28 NekoGloop wtf kind of node grows near lava
02:28 T_A_N_K vanessae, does dripping water work on 0.4.3?
02:28 VanessaE stone :D
02:29 NekoGloop XD
02:29 VanessaE TANK: I have it installed and it doesn't crash ;-)
02:29 T_A_N_K ok ggood
02:29 VanessaE lemme double-check that it actually works though
02:29 NekoGloop i dont even understand what it is supposed to do :P
02:31 NekoGloop alright everyone, how high should cactus, papyrus, and junglegrass grow?
02:31 NekoGloop (it is possible to have different numbers for each :3)
02:31 VanessaE hm
02:32 VanessaE hm, I'm one block below the wa....
02:32 VanessaE wait..
02:32 VanessaE there it goes.
02:32 VanessaE NekoGloop: if you're below water and there's one note between you and it, water drips through the block above
02:32 NekoGloop i see
02:32 VanessaE at least if the block is dirt.
02:32 VanessaE note/node*
02:33 NekoGloop and for the height of the different plants?
02:33 NekoGloop It is even possible for me to make them grow to 500 if it pleases me :P
02:33 VanessaE cactus, leave that to the growing cactus mod. Papyrus, 10 nodes. Junglegrass? only as high as it is now.
02:34 NekoGloop :P
02:34 VanessaE TANK: ok so dripping water works with 0.4.3, but the drips are kinda infrequent, so hard to notice.
02:34 NekoGloop I wanna make a gamemode, growing cactus may be borked
02:34 VanessaE ok
02:34 NekoGloop and, 10 nodes for papyrus?
02:34 VanessaE well cactus should go about 10m tall at mods.
02:34 VanessaE yeah
02:34 NekoGloop wtf kinda papyrus is that?!
02:34 NekoGloop O.o
02:34 VanessaE papyrus is basically bamboo in this game, and that this grows TAAAALLLL
02:35 NekoGloop hm...
02:35 NekoGloop 7 then.
02:35 VanessaE no
02:35 NekoGloop currently i have it at 4 :P
02:35 VanessaE I've got bamboo where I live that's easily 10m tall - in real life.
02:35 NekoGloop junglegrass i want to have grow, since with default textures at least, it looks perfect stacked
02:36 VanessaE "Some of the largest timber bamboo can grow over 30 metres (98 ft) tall, and be as large as 15–20 cm (6–8 inches) in diameter"
02:36 VanessaE from Ye Olde Wikipedia
02:36 NekoGloop as for cactus? 10 seems overkill for cactus.
02:36 NekoGloop 7 for cactus.
02:36 VanessaE the type of cactus implied by the game can reach 20m in real life, fwiw
02:37 NekoGloop I could make ANY node grow XD
02:37 NekoGloop I could even make mese grow
02:38 NekoGloop junglegrass grows to 3 in height on dirt. sound good?
02:39 T_A_N_K can i make a nodebox wallmounted?
02:39 VanessaE yes
02:39 NekoGloop meselamps, for example
02:39 NekoGloop (from mesecons)
02:40 NekoGloop i once made junglegrass have 200 visual_scale
02:40 NekoGloop I was blinded by the giant pixely mess
02:41 NekoGloop literally, the size causes the view to glitch
02:42 NekoGloop you cant see anything beyond the giant THING
02:45 NekoGloop try making leaves have alpha = 230... O.O
02:45 VanessaE brb
02:56 NekoGloop someone tell me how the fuck does perlin work
02:56 OldCoder Time to back up servers
02:56 OldCoder Prepare for glitch
02:58 OldCoder Servers back
02:58 OldCoder Test soon
02:58 OldCoder As I will not be awake long
02:59 OldCoder I need to speak with thexyz sometime
02:59 OldCoder I will add a deadman switch
02:59 OldCoder Based on his code
02:59 OldCoder Then servers may never crash *or* lock up
02:59 NekoGloop why is dirt_with_grass spawning in c++
03:00 NekoGloop if it was in lua, i could fuck with it
03:00 NakedFury same with stone and normal dirt
03:01 NekoGloop well i mean dirt -> dirt_with_grass but yeah
03:01 NakedFury should have complete world generation in lua just like the ore stuff
03:01 NekoGloop agreed
03:05 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=znir_s4Q9BA&NR=1 "So, who is the culprit?"
03:08 * VanessaE is back
03:08 NekoGloop good
03:08 NekoGloop i have a question
03:09 LAD wow
03:09 NekoGloop how would i make grass nodes appear on dirt_with_grass?
03:09 LAD thats it
03:09 NekoGloop like... dare i say it, minecraft.
03:09 NekoGloop LAD: ?
03:09 LAD whats it for
03:09 VanessaE spawn them like I do with junglegrass
03:09 NekoGloop for my gamemode
03:09 LAD worldedit
03:10 LAD hmmm
03:10 NekoGloop VanessaE: and how exactly did you go about that?
03:10 VanessaE I used an abm set to look for dirt with grass and just made it add_node() when the condition was ripe for it to actually execute
03:10 NekoGloop I just copied the dry shrub code and made it spawn junglegrass on dirt_with_grass instead
03:11 NekoGloop hm...
03:11 LAD noooo
03:11 LAD neko fall count 4
03:11 NekoGloop ?
03:11 VanessaE but what you're doing is basically right
03:11 VanessaE but you want a smaller node
03:11 VanessaE junglegrass is too tall
03:11 NekoGloop y u fall lol
03:11 LAD XD
03:11 LAD dont ask
03:11 NekoGloop VanessaE: basically
03:11 VanessaE use the "shortest" junglegrass from my mod.
03:12 LAD from 1 to 4 in 1 day
03:12 VanessaE that's about the right height for plain old grass
03:12 NekoGloop and i cant seem to get it to be everywhere-y enough
03:12 VanessaE can it be collected and used for anything?
03:13 LAD k i gtg cya allz tomorw
03:13 NekoGloop not currently; i plan to do something with it later
03:13 VanessaE ok
03:14 NekoGloop perhaps mossy cobble. But that is later.
03:14 NekoGloop Right now i want it to spawn correctly :P
03:15 NekoGloop any ideas?
03:16 VanessaE hard to know what to do without seeing what it does now :D
03:16 NekoGloop look at mapgen.lua
03:16 VanessaE oh like I can read c55's code ;)
03:16 NekoGloop XD
03:17 NekoGloop about as well as i can read rba's code
03:17 NekoGloop yet i deal with it :P
03:17 VanessaE why don't you just ask me to transcribe Perl into Java while you're at it
03:17 NekoGloop Could you transcribe Perl to Java? [/troll]
03:17 VanessaE lol
03:18 OldCoder Sure
03:18 OldCoder May be a little
03:18 OldCoder inefficient
03:18 NekoGloop XD
03:18 OldCoder See Parrot
03:18 NekoGloop she told me to ask her :D
03:19 OldCoder O.K.
03:19 NekoGloop see: [/troll]
03:19 OldCoder k
03:19 OldCoder Regardless
03:19 OldCoder Parrot can probably do this
03:19 NekoGloop means i was trolling with the line
03:19 OldCoder Yep
03:19 NekoGloop :P
03:19 OldCoder I cannot resist
03:19 OldCoder Good technical points
03:19 OldCoder Trolling notwithstanding
03:20 NekoGloop VanessaE: all i really need is a decent perlin thingymajiger to plug in to make the grass everywhere=y=er
03:20 OldCoder "Trolling, Trolling, The wheels on the troll go round and round..."
03:20 NekoGloop everywhere-y-er*
03:20 VanessaE NekoGloop: look at how I used it in Junglegrass
03:20 NekoGloop not everywhere-y enough
03:20 VanessaE I use perlin noise to decide *where* to spawn, and regular density controls with find_nodes_near() to decide how *much* to add
03:21 NekoGloop see: minecraft.
03:21 NekoGloop I want grass like THAT
03:21 VanessaE fuck minecraft :-)
03:21 NekoGloop to me that's one of it's good points
03:21 NekoGloop the grass.
03:21 VanessaE so,
03:21 VanessaE what you're saying is,
03:21 VanessaE you like to watch grass grow?
03:21 VanessaE ;)
03:21 NekoGloop XD
03:22 NekoGloop well my junglegrass suffices already for that
03:22 NekoGloop :D
03:22 NekoGloop grows to 3 nodes high when on "group:dirt"
03:22 VanessaE you shouldn't do that.
03:22 NekoGloop all my abms use large amounts of groups
03:22 VanessaE now all junglegrass textures are stackable
03:22 * OldCoder is a bit wrecked
03:22 OldCoder Zzz
03:22 NekoGloop VanessaE: fuck non-default textures
03:22 VanessaE D:
03:23 NekoGloop :D
03:23 VanessaE if you'd try my HDX sometime, you'll wonder how you got by with anything else ;)
03:23 NekoGloop I did try it
03:23 NekoGloop my fps was nil
03:23 VanessaE oh.
03:23 NekoGloop :P
03:23 VanessaE try the 64px size
03:23 NekoGloop that was the size i tried
03:23 VanessaE then your gfx card is shit :)
03:24 NekoGloop well i know that
03:24 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=insCeDwbPaI "Hey.... Give me that...? hehe~"
03:24 VanessaE pass
03:25 NekoGloop quoting the song :P
03:25 NekoGloop well, in english anyway
03:25 VanessaE heh
03:25 VanessaE haven't watched much anime in a long while.
03:25 NekoGloop IT'S NOT FUCKING ANIME
03:26 NekoGloop THIS IS VOCALOID
03:26 VanessaE ...
03:26 NekoGloop ahem. sorry.
03:26 NekoGloop incase you hadnt noticed, rba says that for the simple reason to tick me off.
03:27 VanessaE Since the terms are defined by the artwork style itself, it's still anime/manga. :-)
03:28 NekoGloop the artwork is animated. anime implies a tv show or movie
03:28 VanessaE yes
03:28 NekoGloop manga is japanese comic books
03:28 NekoGloop if anything, it's not manga :/
03:29 VanessaE manga is any kind of static/printed artwork matching that description
03:29 VanessaE since it is not in print, it is anime.
03:29 VanessaE not as if it matters :-)
03:29 NekoGloop and the whole point of the link was the music
03:29 NekoGloop not the animation to go with
03:30 NekoGloop like the other 500 or so links I've posted
03:30 VanessaE http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/extra/unnamed%20anime%20girl.jpg
03:30 VanessaE drew that years ago, in a fit of boredom
03:30 NekoGloop hands are a bit small
03:30 VanessaE yeah I know
03:31 VanessaE I was never good at drawing the human form, exaggerated or not
03:31 NekoGloop Neither am i
03:31 NekoGloop which is why the artwork in my game is not humanshaped at all
03:31 NekoGloop :P
03:31 NekoGloop btw, have i shown you Gloop?
03:31 VanessaE heh
03:32 VanessaE nope
03:32 NekoGloop http://sandbox.yoyogames.com/games/179288-gloop
03:32 NakedFury for those interested in a mechwarrior online beta key: http://www.mmorpg.com/giveaways.cfm/offer/380/MechWarrior-Online-Beta-Key-Giveaway.html
03:32 NekoGloop .exe, so i hope you have wine ready :3
03:33 VanessaE it's enough to see the screenshots :-)
03:33 NekoGloop lol
03:33 VanessaE looks like a side scroller, SMB or alike
03:33 NekoGloop yup
03:33 NekoGloop with double jump that took forever to get right :P
03:34 NekoGloop also, something random that also took a while: http://sandbox.yoyogames.com/games/184601-2-d-minecraft
03:34 VanessaE heh
03:34 NekoGloop maze game just for me to try HD-er graphics: http://sandbox.yoyogames.com/games/194886-so-you-wanted-to-play-god
03:34 VanessaE cute
03:35 NekoGloop the main menu in the maze game took about 5 seconds! :D
03:36 VanessaE heh
03:40 NekoGloop VanessaE: can you explain what the numbers in minetest.env:get_perlin do?
03:40 VanessaE actually I don't know exactly.
03:41 VanessaE I got the numbers I use from splizard
03:41 NekoGloop heh
03:41 VanessaE except the seed, which I got by mashing the keyboard :-)
03:41 NekoGloop XD
03:42 NakedFury Gloop lord a few days ago MR. hmm was talkingt about perlin noise and generation
03:42 NekoGloop "Gloop lord"?
03:42 NakedFury neko dude? mr. neko? neko kitten?
03:43 NakedFury gloop master>
03:43 NakedFury ?
03:43 NekoGloop gloopmaster or nekogloop
03:43 NakedFury giving it a spin
03:45 NekoGloop this world is AWESOME *-*
03:46 NekoGloop and I got it to work with the everywhere-y-ness
03:46 cornernote which world ?
03:46 NekoGloop my local one
03:46 NekoGloop seed is... something
03:47 VanessaE NekoGloop: that said, if you look on github at one of my old versions of junglegrass before I did perlin noise and dentiry control, it *does* grow literalyl everywhere
03:47 VanessaE as in every damn node had a piece after enough time
03:47 NekoGloop well I'm just doing on_generated
03:47 VanessaE dentiry/density
03:47 NekoGloop because this is the effect i want
03:47 * VanessaE shrugs
03:47 NekoGloop my gamemode, my rules :P
03:48 NekoGloop cornernote: seed is 7162990051661414209, but idk with the changes I've made what it will be in default
03:48 NekoGloop should be the same
03:48 NekoGloop nothing i've done would affect the seed, just what appears IN the seed.
03:49 NekoGloop now, to make the grass have a selection box, have a non-junglegrass texture, and not look ugly while I'm at it
03:50 NekoGloop anyone have a grass texture that DOESNT take up the entire node that will be something close to what I want?
03:50 NekoGloop er, scratch that.
03:52 NekoGloop should junglegrass drop grass?
03:52 VanessaE only the smallest size.
03:53 NekoGloop hm... actually, junglegrass could be considered bushes
03:53 VanessaE otherwise it MUST be jungle grass if you want your game to be able to use other mods that can use jungle grass
03:53 NekoGloop or small trees.
03:53 NekoGloop VanessaE: I hope to incorporate the functionality of several mods. Not necessarily keeping craft recipes.
03:54 VanessaE hm
03:54 NekoGloop Mesecons and technic are on that list,
03:54 NekoGloop For mese, I have no idea what to do.
03:55 NekoGloop Should it stay/go?
03:55 VanessaE it should stay
03:55 NekoGloop Or be changed to a slightly more... realistic ore?
03:55 VanessaE it's kinda iconic after all :-)
03:55 cornernote i think stay - use it to craft other things
03:55 NekoGloop hm...
03:55 VanessaE the more default materials you have the wider the range of recipes your other mods can have
03:55 VanessaE so keep mese.
03:55 NakedFury mese is the unique ore of minetest
03:56 NekoGloop ok ok ok
03:56 NekoGloop now...
03:56 VanessaE maybe make it drop mese lumps and smelt to mese ingots, instead of just giving you a mese block
03:56 VanessaE that would be different enough from minetest_game I suppose
03:56 NekoGloop I'm gonna do something incredibly black-magic-y and make chests spawn
03:56 cornernote mese is a fuel ?!
03:56 NekoGloop with items in them
03:56 NekoGloop cornernote: you didnt know?
03:56 VanessaE it is?
03:56 cornernote no, i just noticed then
03:56 cornernote http://cornernote.net/minetest/gamewiki/minetest/item.php?name=default:mese
03:57 cornernote was seeing what else default game used it for
03:57 NekoGloop am I the only one who actually looked at the init.lua to know wtf mese did?
03:57 cornernote only an axe and fuel.. i guess you could get rid of it if you have other ores
03:57 VanessaE cornernote: awww.....decided not to keep using HDX for the demo page? D:
03:58 cornernote VanessaE, if you like i can make another gamewiki with all the mods your pack supports
03:58 VanessaE naw
03:58 cornernote i been making them for all the games i found - http://cornernote.net/minetest/gamewiki/
03:58 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOIxHLGWgQE&feature=relmfu :D
03:58 cornernote i wanted minetest default to have minetest default textures
03:59 VanessaE cornernote: why is nyancat only rendered flat?
03:59 cornernote p.s. there are a lot of games
03:59 cornernote VanessaE, thats the inventory image
03:59 VanessaE oh
03:59 NekoGloop because inventory_image
03:59 NekoGloop and it is now midnight!
03:59 cornernote yep
03:59 NekoGloop :D
03:59 VanessaE noooo
03:59 * VanessaE puts tape over neko's sign-off button
03:59 NekoGloop [00:00] <NekoGloop> and it is now midnight!
03:59 cornernote u know what is a good idea .... ?
03:59 NekoGloop I'm not going nowhere yet
03:59 cornernote have a section in the forums for games
03:59 VanessaE NekoGloop: usually you sign off right about now
04:00 NekoGloop mtn dew still buzzin in me
04:00 NekoGloop :P
04:00 VanessaE cornernote: +1 but good luck getting c55 to agree :-)
04:00 NekoGloop I'm not even slightly tired.
04:00 cornernote community
04:00 cornernote everyone give a little push
04:00 NekoGloop my eye, however, isnt focusing well
04:00 NekoGloop :P
04:01 NekoGloop [00:00] <NekoGloop> [00:00] <NekoGloop> and it is now midnight!
04:01 NekoGloop post-post-ception
04:01 NekoGloop :D
04:01 NekoGloop ok, what was i doing...
04:02 NekoGloop right, chests spawning
04:05 VanessaE cool
04:05 NekoGloop "immediate.death.to.all.weaboos.com" wtf XD
04:05 VanessaE what'a weaboo?
04:05 VanessaE what's
04:05 NekoGloop uh...
04:05 NekoGloop off the top of my head?
04:05 NekoGloop no idea.
04:05 NekoGloop :)
04:06 cornernote A negative term directed to anyone overly obsessed with Japanese culture to the point where they become annoying.
04:06 VanessaE heh
04:06 NekoGloop cornernote: in other words, me?
04:06 NekoGloop :D
04:06 NekoGloop ugh...
04:07 VanessaE lol
04:07 NekoGloop how the fuck do i make the chests appear
04:07 VanessaE by magic of course
04:07 NekoGloop i mean...
04:08 NekoGloop how the fuck do i make them be only in stone, like ores, but be able to modify the meta?
04:08 VanessaE no clue
04:08 cornernote Neko, thats 2 things
04:09 cornernote you make them only in stone by detecting the node you are about to replace
04:09 NekoGloop ok.
04:09 NekoGloop now how do i make the meta?
04:09 cornernote you modify the meta with the set_string()
04:09 cornernote u want to put stuff in the chest ?
04:09 cornernote i'll make a snippet
04:09 NekoGloop I have the calculation to modify the data in the meta, but no way to implement it
04:10 NekoGloop cornernote: not neccessary
04:10 cornernote im not sure where you are stuck
04:10 NekoGloop I have modified the maze mod to have its chests cycle through all registered items, check if they are __builtin:, _source, _flowing, or not in the creative inventory, then add them to the chest
04:10 NekoGloop I'm stuck at making the actual chest
04:11 NekoGloop once I make the chest, have it's pos in a variable, I'm fine
04:11 cornernote minetest.env:add_node() ?
04:11 NekoGloop then to change the meta?
04:11 cornernote meta = minetest.env:get_meta(pos)
04:12 NekoGloop and to get the pos?
04:12 cornernote you know it, cos u need it for add_node()
04:12 cornernote so u need to know how to get the pos ?
04:12 NekoGloop and how do i calculate it then.
04:12 cornernote where do you want to put the chest ?
04:13 cornernote thats your pos =)
04:13 NekoGloop underground, in stone.
04:13 cornernote randomly ?
04:13 NekoGloop you got it
04:13 NekoGloop now how the fuck do i do that
04:14 cornernote minetest.register_on_generated(function(minp, maxp, seed) ... end)
04:14 NekoGloop what do i put in "..."
04:14 NekoGloop I'm not retarded, I know what a register_on_generated is
04:14 cornernote print(minp) print(maxp) print(seed)
04:14 cornernote something like this...
04:15 cornernote sec...
04:15 NekoGloop if you are going to be less than unhelpful, I'll do it myself
04:15 NekoGloop I'm burning moonlight here. (since the sun is down)
04:15 cornernote im looking in generate_ore in moreores to try to see how he gets a pos
04:16 NekoGloop well i could look c55's one
04:16 NekoGloop which is pretty much the same
04:16 cornernote wheres the code ?
04:16 NekoGloop mapgen.lua
04:16 NekoGloop default mod
04:16 cornernote im trying to help, i dont know off the top of my head.. so im reading
04:19 NekoGloop i think i just basically made the two most un-readable pieces of code work together... o.o
04:20 cornernote pastebin
04:20 cornernote i dunno, i have some pretty unreadable code
04:20 cornernote =)
04:20 NekoGloop http://pastebin.com/F9pDEwUn
04:21 NekoGloop wait, i -almost- got them to work together
04:21 cornernote looks nice
04:21 NekoGloop one thing still said pos instead of p2
04:21 cornernote missing invcontent ?
04:22 NekoGloop now let's see what I broke
04:22 NekoGloop cornernote: i dunno
04:22 cornernote its not defined
04:22 cornernote i think, not sure, im just reading it not running it
04:23 NekoGloop now... there's no easy way to find the chests to see if it worked :P
04:23 cornernote lol
04:23 cornernote increase the chance
04:23 NekoGloop for now... let's try air
04:23 NekoGloop wait...
04:23 NekoGloop I am SUCH an idiot
04:24 NekoGloop make the function, then you have to CALL the function
04:24 cornernote indeed
04:25 NekoGloop NOW let's see if i broke anything
04:26 NekoGloop "Look for floating chests" :D
04:30 NekoGloop cornernote: http://ompldr.org/vZm8yNw
04:30 NekoGloop you SAID to increase the chance...
04:31 NekoGloop VanessaE: http://ompldr.org/vZm8yNw :D
04:31 VanessaE whoa
04:32 VanessaE um
04:32 VanessaE wrong.
04:32 NekoGloop my chest generation gone haywire
04:32 VanessaE :-)
04:32 NekoGloop I didnt make them rare enough
04:32 VanessaE ya think!?
04:32 NekoGloop which is excellent for testing
04:33 NekoGloop oh cool, I got three buckets in one chest
04:33 NekoGloop :D
04:33 NekoGloop well that one chest is bloody disappointing.
04:33 NekoGloop only a wooden shovel
04:34 NekoGloop and dumping the pos of every chest: not a good idea
04:36 NekoGloop also i should randomize the facedir
04:36 NekoGloop they're all looking the same way
04:36 NekoGloop that actually took a lot less time than i thought it would
04:37 NekoGloop I should SOOOOO make floating islands.
04:37 NekoGloop this little "test" of that should work excellently
04:38 VanessaE no. The mapgen does enough of that anyway :-)
04:38 NekoGloop lol
04:38 NekoGloop I mean ones CLOSER to the ground
04:38 NekoGloop with water & stuff
04:40 NekoGloop huh... did you know that if a desert, normal land, and water are all close enough together, you get the desert transition with normal sand?
04:41 VanessaE nope, didn't know that
04:41 VanessaE frankly though I don't like the transitions. There shoulda been at least one mixed block type
04:41 NekoGloop hm...
04:41 NekoGloop i dunno
04:42 VanessaE e.g. desert sand -> desert sand + dirt -> dirt -> dirt with grass
04:42 NekoGloop there's probably some overly complex way i could force that to happen from lua
04:42 NekoGloop after all, i made treasure chests, didnt i?
04:42 NekoGloop :D
04:42 VanessaE yup
04:42 NekoGloop still... ironing out the rarity though
04:43 NekoGloop i dunno, i think how it is is perfect.
04:43 NekoGloop (with what i currently have)
04:44 NekoGloop I think i may have just made them rarer than mithril...
04:45 NekoGloop good part is that the numbers being spat out in the debug are not close to each other
04:46 NekoGloop so there arent "clumps" of chests
04:46 VanessaE well with a truly random distribution, clumps wouldn't be uncommon
04:46 VanessaE the effect is called "local non-randomness"
04:46 NekoGloop heh, this is generate_ore + my maze mod add-on for chests
04:46 VanessaE ah
04:47 NekoGloop chests are in maze mod, yes.
04:47 NekoGloop but i made them have ALL the items.
04:47 NekoGloop not just defaul ;)
04:47 NekoGloop I seem to be getting a shitload of wool
04:48 NekoGloop now some other ideas...
04:48 NekoGloop desert cobble. dug from desert stone, smelted back to desert stone.
04:49 NekoGloop yes/no?
04:51 NekoGloop wow, that DIDNT make my debug.txt be astronomically high?
04:51 NekoGloop large*
04:53 VanessaE how much storage space should a dresser get?
04:53 NekoGloop hm...
04:53 NekoGloop 24
04:53 VanessaE (they require something like 21 wood and 3 steel to make)
04:53 NekoGloop 8*3
04:53 VanessaE (and stand 2x3 nodes in size)
04:55 NekoGloop does math.random include or exclude the last number?
04:55 VanessaE dunno
04:56 NekoGloop i.e. is math.random(1,3) going to have any chance of being 3?
04:56 VanessaE good question
04:56 VanessaE 24 slots? isn't that a little bit small for an object that's 2 nodes wide and three tall and takes 21 wood + 3 steel to make? :-)
04:57 NekoGloop less than a normal chest yet more than the rest of the objects in homedecor
04:58 VanessaE hm
04:59 NekoGloop http://pastebin.com/hrEims2z
04:59 NekoGloop here is my generate_chest
04:59 NekoGloop go crazy with it
05:00 NekoGloop i think NOW it's time for me to sleep
05:01 VanessaE night :-)
05:01 NekoGloop after all, I now have something different enough from minetest_game
05:08 VanessaE bbl. Bedtime for me too.
05:28 ecube night
05:28 ecube oop
05:38 ecube where's orby, he's usually here
06:25 VanessaE morning RBA
06:31 RealBadAngel hi VanessaE
06:42 VanessaE what's news, RBA?
07:53 RealBadAngel VanessaE, got free day, just sat down to code somethin
07:54 VanessaE cool
07:54 VanessaE seen the latest updates to Homedecor?
08:38 Calinou hi
08:38 * Guest14856 installed lubuntu on an external HDD
08:38 Guest14856 works just fine
08:38 Guest14856 stfu nickserv
08:44 nyuszika7h hi Calinou_
08:47 VanessaE morning calinou
08:57 Calinou_ http://ompldr.org/vZm80Nw/2012-09-28-105014_1920x1080_scrot.png < my desktop for now
09:26 * Calinou_ is strill downloading stuff
09:26 Calinou still*
09:29 VanessaE ok time to try to get some sleep. Calinou: homedecor updates - get it while it's hot ;-)
09:29 VanessaE night all.
09:29 Calinou 'night
09:30 * Calinou is liking lubuntu so far
09:30 * Calinou uses 1120MB RAM out of 12000MB, + 2241MB cache
09:30 Calinou so much cache O_o
09:31 * Calinou likes running lightweight-ish distros on good computers
09:41 help_ent HELP THE ENTITIES
09:41 help_ent CHANGE YOUR NICK
10:56 NekoGloop Mornin people
10:59 Mika_R morning
11:05 Basstard` Mornin'
11:39 NekoGloop Meow.
11:48 NekoGloop Nyan cat sends his regards :D
12:48 denes hi
12:48 NekoGloop Hello
12:49 denes how to play with others?
12:49 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
12:50 NekoGloop Get on a server, that's how.
12:50 denes then give me a server pls
12:50 NekoGloop Go find one
12:51 PilzAdam http://servers.minetest.ru/
12:54 denes timed out
13:05 denes it allways say timed out
13:05 denes *says
13:05 PilzAdam get a better internet connection
13:06 PilzAdam you know you have to put that number after the : in the port field?
13:07 denes it was allways 30000
13:08 PilzAdam and you put the adress without the number and the : in the adress field?
13:08 denes yes
13:08 PilzAdam whats your internet connection speed?
13:09 denes it's creepy
13:09 denes and my sister is downloading
13:09 PilzAdam then thats the problem
13:10 PilzAdam in wich country are you?
13:10 denes hungary
13:10 PilzAdam and most MT servers are in USA
13:11 denes but there is a russian server
13:11 PilzAdam you tried it?
13:11 denes of course
13:12 denes does it require a registration?
13:12 PilzAdam if it says timed out then thats not the problenm
13:12 PilzAdam *problem
13:13 denes what are the differences between mc and mt?
13:13 PilzAdam MC is written in java -> slow; MT is written in c++ -> faster (in theory)
13:14 PilzAdam MC is more RPG-ish
13:14 thexyz that "russian server" is located in germany
13:14 PilzAdam realy?
13:14 denes germany sounds better
13:15 thexyz PilzAdam: yes
13:15 thexyz because it's cheaper
13:16 PilzAdam germanys exports are #2 in the world
13:16 PilzAdam </offtopic>
14:04 Basstard` In west Philadelphia, born and raised
14:14 Calinou hi
14:14 Calinou back on windows..
14:14 NekoGloop Meow.
14:22 NekoGloop Calinou: you DO know that on http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3157 the problem IS that he's using OpenGL?
14:23 Calinou "video_driver is opengl by default; switching TO direct3d9 may fix it, however it's crashy. Causes segfaults and shit."
14:23 Calinou it is direct3d9 by default on windos
14:23 NekoGloop yes
14:23 NekoGloop no its not
14:23 Calinou or maybe not anymore then
14:23 NekoGloop i know, because without any line there i get OpenGL in my title bar-thingy
14:24 NekoGloop and, yes, direct3d9 causes segfaults and stupid shit like that.
14:24 NekoGloop as Jordach said, it's because OpenGL eats graphics RAM
14:24 NekoGloop that the images load wrong
14:25 NekoGloop and texture atlas being disabled does precisely NIL to fix it.
14:25 PilzAdam c&p?
14:25 PilzAdam http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=44997#p44997
14:25 thexyz i think the problem is that he's using windows
14:25 NekoGloop thexyz: no, it's not lol
14:26 NekoGloop he just doesnt have an adquate graphics card
14:26 thexyz i use linux and i have no such problems
14:26 PilzAdam +1
14:26 NekoGloop OS means, again, NIL in this case.
14:26 NekoGloop OpenGL just eats graphics processing
14:26 thexyz then why does it work for me and not for him?
14:26 NekoGloop Your computer just has a better graphics card.
14:27 NekoGloop So it can handle OpenGL's greedy memory usage.
14:28 thexyz it also works quite fine on my asus u36jc (using intel card)
14:28 PilzAdam https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenGL
14:29 NekoGloop also, building mt yourself with a newer version of OpenGL may work.
14:44 NekoGloop I'm making a gamemode, for anyone who's interested.
14:48 Calinou same
14:48 Calinou :D
14:48 NekoGloop lol
14:48 NekoGloop I'm currently working on making treasure chests generate
14:49 NekoGloop hello Jordach
14:49 PilzAdam hi Jordach
14:52 OldCoder Jordach, NekoGloop, PilzAdam etc. gm
14:52 NekoGloop mornin
14:53 Jordach suo
14:53 Jordach sup
14:53 iqualfragile etc. here good evening oldcoder
14:54 Calinou NekoGloop: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2922 if you want this topic moved, please add a license
14:55 NekoGloop I should add "If i didnt state it above, my code and textures are WTFPL" in my signature
14:55 PilzAdam there is a better cactusmod in my fork of mt_game
14:55 NekoGloop PilzAdam: your cactusmod is shit
14:55 PilzAdam thx
14:55 NekoGloop mine damages on diagonals, DOESNT put useless nodes
14:56 Calinou PilzAdam: did you put that much nodeboxes in your mod?
14:56 Calinou every cactus block has about 30 nodeboxes :|
14:56 NekoGloop that too
14:56 Calinou NekoGloop: topic moved :)
14:56 PilzAdam Calinou, https://github.com/PilzAdam/minetest_game/blob/master/mods/cactusmod/init.lua#L81
14:56 NekoGloop and randomly generated nodeboxes is a BIIIIIIIIIIG nono
14:57 PilzAdam why?
14:57 NekoGloop because i want my things not to look different if i restart
14:57 NekoGloop and i just made default:cloud generate in air as an ore
14:57 Calinou huh?
14:57 NekoGloop :D
14:57 Calinou ah
14:58 PilzAdam you ever noticed a difference with my cactusmod?
14:58 Calinou random nodeboxes O_o that's possible? didn't know
14:58 NekoGloop yes
14:58 NekoGloop PilzAdam did it in his shit version of cactusmod
14:58 Calinou there are now 186 topics in mod releases
14:58 Calinou :D
14:58 NekoGloop sweet
14:58 NekoGloop now why the fuck isnt my world generatin
15:01 NekoGloop is "air" a defined "node"?
15:01 sfan5 yes
15:01 NekoGloop or do i have to use "__builtin:air"
15:01 PilzAdam no
15:01 NekoGloop ok... then why the fuck isnt my cloud generation working
15:02 PilzAdam code?
15:02 NekoGloop generate_ore("default:cloud", "air", minp, maxp, seed+8, 1/8/8/8, 5, 60, 40, 31000)
15:02 NekoGloop in mapgen.lua
15:04 LAD hey neko
15:04 NekoGloop hello LAD
15:04 LAD XD
15:04 LAD fall count 5
15:04 LAD XD
15:05 sfan5 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFOTqQ_FRJw
15:05 PilzAdam -1
15:06 Jordach sfan5, i like it
15:07 sfan5 PilzAdam: i'm a noob with blender
15:07 NekoGloop well that's stupid....
15:07 NekoGloop (the error)
15:07 PilzAdam -1 for MC
15:07 NekoGloop it told me that i cant make my clouds because the thing would fail to make a good random distribution
15:08 sfan5 create a minetest to .obj 3d file and i'll make minetest animations
15:08 NekoGloop I'm sure someone could make an interpreter for .we files
15:09 OldCoder thexyz, is there any chance you could pseudo-code the live-server detection code for me? I wish to write a simple generic routine for the purpose. Given this I can implement a deadman switch; and I can run servers that will *never* be down.
15:09 OldCoder Presently I restart on crash. This does not work for hangs, though.
15:09 Jordach sfan5 - .we
15:09 NekoGloop 11:06:49: ERROR[EmergeThread]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: LuaError: PseudoRandom.next() max-min is not 32767 and is > 32768/5. This is disallowed due to the bad random distribution the implementation would otherwise make.
15:09 NekoGloop wtf minetest
15:09 sfan5 .we to .obj 3d object
15:09 sfan5 code that
15:09 Calinou sfan5: .obj cannot be animated :P
15:10 sfan5 i imported it into bledner
15:10 Calinou so you'll have to export to another format such as .md3
15:10 sfan5 *blender
15:10 Calinou NekoGloop> I'm sure someone could make an interpreter for .we files
15:10 Calinou possible, but it would create a fuckton of cubes probably
15:11 NekoGloop .we doesnt save air
15:11 * Jordach uses wielditemmodeleditor to test new nodes and their appearance
15:11 NekoGloop so that's no issue as far as that part goes
15:18 LAD realbadangle are u here??
15:19 NekoGloop O.O
15:19 NekoGloop my chest generation...
15:19 NekoGloop gave me...
15:19 NekoGloop 32 nyancats...
15:21 Jordach nyan!
15:21 NekoGloop and i thought it was bad I could get 65535+ items in a stack before
15:21 Mikeonline hi
15:22 NekoGloop hello mike who is online
15:22 PilzAdam hi Mikeonline
15:26 NekoGloop I didnt know you could make an ore TOO common
15:26 * Jordach claps
15:27 NekoGloop i just crashed Minetest by making cloud "ore" generating too common
15:27 * Jordach again, claps
15:27 Calinou c<NekoGloop> my chest generation...
15:27 Calinou <NekoGloop> gave me...
15:27 Calinou <NekoGloop> 32 nyancats...
15:27 Calinou mod idea:
15:27 NekoGloop hmm...?
15:28 Jordach [nyancat-hunt] ?
15:28 Calinou /chest <number of items> generates a chest where you look with normally obtainable items (those without not_in_creative_inventory group)
15:28 Calinou :>
15:28 Jordach hmm
15:28 NekoGloop Calinou: i made it happen on mapgen, screw dat shit
15:28 Jordach a mystery chest
15:28 Jordach that can contain anything, just as long as you pay it 12 mese
15:28 NekoGloop heh
15:29 NekoGloop XD
15:29 NekoGloop i can get ores from the chests XD
15:29 NekoGloop (ore blocks, instead of lumps)
15:29 PilzAdam https://github.com/PilzAdam/minetest_game/commit/a5e1c2ea858b51a3bd8738b7bec341d287894ae3
15:30 Jordach wtf does that do?
15:30 NekoGloop makes shiny things appear
15:30 NekoGloop :D
15:30 PilzAdam put at stack in it and it turns to a stack of 99 bides
15:30 PilzAdam *nodes
15:31 * Jordach is making a kitchen mod
15:31 NekoGloop btw: my chest generation has a max stack size of 1/2 the stack_max of the item being put in it
15:32 Jordach has, one oven, one microwave, several cupboards and work surfaces
15:32 PilzAdam if you have e.g. grass with footsteps node (not in creative) and you use giveme to get it and you need more than 99 you can put the last node of it in the refill field and you have 99 again
15:32 Jordach PilzAdam, nice +1
15:32 NekoGloop generate_ore("default:cloud", "__builtin:air", minp, maxp, seed+8, 1/8/8/8, 6, 27, 50, 200)
15:32 NekoGloop doesnt seem to EVER make clouds
15:32 PilzAdam and you dont have to search for nodes in the creative inv after getting the first stack
15:32 NekoGloop someone tell me WTF is wrong...?
15:34 PilzAdam use "air"
15:35 NekoGloop ok.
15:35 NekoGloop air is an alias for __builtin:air, correct?
15:36 PilzAdam <NekoGloop> or do i have to use "__builtin:air"
15:36 PilzAdam <PilzAdam> no
15:36 PilzAdam NekoGloop, no, its not (i think)
15:36 PilzAdam "builtin:air" doesnt exist
15:36 NekoGloop __builtin:air
15:36 NekoGloop with the underscores
15:37 PilzAdam i know
15:38 PilzAdam its only air: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/blob/master/builtin/misc_register.lua#L250
15:45 NekoGloop riiight...
15:45 NekoGloop well i got them to appear
15:46 Jordach sweet
15:46 Jordach NekoGloop, how is one supposed to mine them?
15:47 PilzAdam how do i compile MT with gettext?
15:47 NekoGloop they look like shit and i forgot to set sunlight_propagates..
15:47 NekoGloop Jordach: i added oddly_breakable_by_hand, and removed not_in_creative_inventory, from the groups
15:47 Jordach ahh
15:48 Jordach that would fuck the walls pvp map up
15:48 Jordach >:D
15:48 NekoGloop yup
15:48 NekoGloop if you wanna use maps made for minetest_game, dont use glooptest.
15:49 NekoGloop it WILL break them :P
15:49 Jordach lolololololololololol
15:49 Jordach ^ drowning people
15:49 NekoGloop drowning people?
15:50 OldCoder Restarting servers; this will lock up clients
15:51 Jordach http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=45016#p45016 noon
15:51 Jordach noo*
15:51 Jordach noob**
15:52 Jordach my responce says it all
15:52 NekoGloop lol
15:53 NekoGloop Jordach: say hello to default:cloud spawning: http://ompldr.org/vZm85Mg
15:53 NekoGloop also visual differences
15:53 Jordach how 'bout nope.
15:53 NekoGloop such as alpha
15:53 NekoGloop hm?
15:53 Jordach im making a kitchen mod
15:53 NekoGloop I'm still working on -how- they spawn
15:53 PilzAdam NekoGloop, you should disable the c++ clouds
15:53 NekoGloop i dont want shit like that in my skies
15:54 * Jordach has this ingneous and metamorphic rock spawning mod...
15:54 NekoGloop PilzAdam: sure.... how.
15:54 PilzAdam http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3197
15:54 Jordach and coal "sometimes" becomes diamonds
15:54 OldCoder Restarted servers
15:54 PilzAdam NekoGloop, line 12
15:55 NekoGloop how would i force this?
15:55 PilzAdam what?
15:59 * Jordach is bored as shit
15:59 * PilzAdam too
16:00 * Jordach considers buying Battlefield 3
16:00 * PilzAdam has it already
16:00 * Jordach also thinks of getting an iPad3 64Gb
16:00 * PilzAdam doesnt like apple
16:00 iqualfragile bf3 is madness
16:00 * NekoGloop has iPad2 8Gb :P
16:00 Jordach ^ CoD player
16:00 iqualfragile it syncs every single dust-particle
16:00 PilzAdam BF3 FTW!!!
16:01 Jordach iqualfragile - realism
16:01 Jordach CoD is overblown POS that plays like Halo 3
16:01 Jordach Halo came first
16:01 PilzAdam COD: Theres a camper in the house - BF3: BOOM! What house?
16:01 Jordach yep.
16:01 Jordach :P
16:02 Jordach there is one bonus to having windows
16:02 PilzAdam not realy
16:02 NekoGloop i wonder what happens if i make cloud have liquid drawtype...
16:02 Jordach having awesome music play while on the xbox360
16:02 Jordach rather than the same old stuff from the game
16:02 NekoGloop ok then
16:03 NekoGloop it crashes on startup
16:03 NekoGloop good to know.
16:03 * Jordach decides to play Forza 3: Ultimate Edition
16:03 * PilzAdam wants to test the cloud mod
16:04 NekoGloop the cloud mod...?
16:04 PilzAdam your cloud mod
16:04 NekoGloop this is going to be part of my gamemode XD
16:04 Jordach NekoGloop, what you just made *facepalm*
16:04 NekoGloop i could port it out if i like
16:04 PilzAdam yes!
16:04 NekoGloop as soon as it works right
16:04 * PilzAdam can help to improve it
16:04 Jordach +PilzAdam's kills on Battlefield 3
16:04 NekoGloop currently, a SHITLOAD of cloud blocks are EVERYWHERE
16:05 Jordach hmm, id love to see spawning npc villages
16:05 PilzAdam Jordach, 21.837
16:05 Jordach [17:05:35] <PilzAdam> Jordach, 21.837 : what
16:05 NekoGloop kills
16:06 NekoGloop Jordach: I could do that... eventually ^^
16:06 PilzAdam in germany the . and , are switched in the meaning
16:06 Jordach it was a +1 to the cloud mod
16:06 PilzAdam http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/de/soldier/PilzAdam/stats/265755239/xbox/
16:06 Jordach just, very nicely
16:07 PilzAdam +PilzAdam's kills on Battlefield 3 = +21837 ~= +1
16:07 NekoGloop i guess he really liked it l;)
16:08 Jordach i do
16:08 PilzAdam Neirdan, stop talking, keep coding
16:08 Jordach its more inetesting than the current game
16:08 NekoGloop eventually, when i get this shit to work, it will be released
16:08 PilzAdam ooops, *NekoGloop
16:08 Jordach PilzAdam, s/Neirdan/NekoGloo[
16:08 NekoGloop NekoGloo[
16:08 NekoGloop wow.
16:09 PilzAdam Neirdan, change your nick so i get NekoGloop by typing n+e+tab
16:09 NekoGloop XD
16:12 PilzAdam how do i use gettext with MT?
16:12 NekoGloop no idea
16:16 NekoGloop ugh... i have no idea what I'm doing...
16:16 NekoGloop I should try to make clouds generate like clay, not like ores...
16:18 iqualfragile CLOUDS?
16:18 NekoGloop yes, clouds
16:18 iqualfragile gimmethatlink
16:19 PilzAdam +1
16:19 NekoGloop as soon as it even SLIGHTLY works how i want it to
16:20 NekoGloop I want aether-like clouds
16:20 NekoGloop :P
16:21 iqualfragile …
16:21 iqualfragile there is allready an trampoline
16:21 NekoGloop i know
16:21 NekoGloop :P
16:22 NekoGloop I have it installed
16:22 PilzAdam hi VanessaE
16:22 Jordach hi VanessaE
16:22 NekoGloop iqualfragile: you -do- know there arent just bouncy clouds in the aether?
16:22 iqualfragile jup, but there are
16:23 iqualfragile the others stop fall-damage
16:23 NekoGloop i know
16:23 PilzAdam NekoGloop, if you dont stop talking and keep coding i will do it myself (see cactusmod)
16:23 NekoGloop i want the generation style of those clouds
16:23 NekoGloop PilzAdam: my fingers can type fast, I'm doing both :P
16:24 PilzAdam *cant
16:25 NekoGloop ?
16:25 PilzAdam <NekoGloop> PilzAdam: my fingers cant type fast, I'm not doing both :P
16:25 iqualfragile coding hasnt realy much to do with writing
16:25 iqualfragile thats just the final step
16:25 PilzAdam iqualfragile, +math.pi
16:25 NekoGloop no...
16:25 NekoGloop local derp = -math.huge
16:26 NekoGloop +derp
16:26 NekoGloop :P
16:27 Mika_R hi
16:27 PilzAdam sup
16:28 Mika_R nothing much testing this god damn app
16:30 Mika_R vanessaE i dont know if you got the pm, can you tell again your web site?
16:30 NekoGloop http://ompldr.org/vZm85bQ k then
16:32 Mika_R nekogloop, can you say what's that?
16:32 NekoGloop clouds
16:32 Mika_R layers?
16:32 PilzAdam NekoGloop, -1; first was better
16:32 NekoGloop first was too scattered
16:33 NekoGloop i wasnt showing a single cloud; that was my entire sky
16:33 PilzAdam first is just fine
16:33 NekoGloop then you can fucking have it
16:33 NekoGloop generate_ore("default:cloud", "air", minp, maxp, seed, 1/16/16/16, 1, 1, 50, 31000)
16:33 NekoGloop add that to register_on_generated in mapgen.lua
16:34 NekoGloop while i figure out how to make these work
16:34 PilzAdam NekoGloop, cloud code?
16:34 Mika_R nekogloop, might look good from below but some people like high buildings and i wouldn't like a view like that
16:35 Mika_R but it might be better than default
16:35 NekoGloop Mika: I made them transparent
16:35 NekoGloop minetest.register_node("default:cloud", { description = "Cloud", tiles = {"default_cloud.png"}, is_ground_content = true, walkable = false, climbable = true, sunlight_propagates = true, alpha = CLOUD_ALPHA, sounds = default.node_sound_defaults(), groups = {oddly_breakable_by_hand=3}, })
16:35 NekoGloop @ PilzAdam ^
16:35 Mika_R where do you need them then?
16:35 NekoGloop Mika: in the sky? :P
16:36 NekoGloop PilzAdam: also, CLOUD_ALPHA = 120
16:39 Basstard` NekoGloop in the sky with pearl necklaces.
16:40 iqualfragile you just need to take a bit of 3d-perlin-noise and multyply it with some kind of graphic im gona draw and upload in a moment
16:41 NekoGloop if you have a good generation code, do it
16:41 NekoGloop because mine sucks
16:41 NekoGloop I just made foggy biomes.
16:43 NekoGloop reason for that was?
16:43 Mika_R whois or?
16:43 Jordach ttk2 has a IPV6 Address
16:43 PilzAdam hi T_A_N_K
16:44 T_A_N_K ello
16:44 Jordach ello T_A_N_K
16:44 Jordach hows the awesome
16:46 Mika_R gtg again
16:46 Mikeonline node_ownership: new commit state
16:48 PilzAdam GRAVEL BIOME!!!
16:49 NekoGloop ?
16:49 NekoGloop T_A_N_K: I'm attempting to make clouds appear... not workin
16:49 T_A_N_K oh
16:50 PilzAdam http://ompldr.org/vZm85eg
16:50 Jordach Aether Mod#
16:50 FreeFull Who even wants gravel
16:50 FreeFull There is enough gravel already
16:50 PilzAdam gravel biomes are realy rare
16:51 NekoGloop FreeFull: people with TNT mod
16:51 Calinou FreeFull: pedobear
16:51 Calinou PilzAdam: +1, nice find :)
16:51 Calinou these are not actual biomes, just gravel falling on grass
16:51 Calinou only actual biomes are default and desert
16:57 VanessaE hi all
16:57 PilzAdam hi
16:58 NekoGloop PilzAdam: figured out my cloud code yet?
16:58 PilzAdam wait for it...
16:58 NekoGloop currently... I'm fucking with clay generation in ways that shouldnt be possible.
16:58 VanessaE neko: make clay from unifiedbricks spawn please
16:58 VanessaE give that mod some use in survival mode :-)
16:58 NekoGloop XD
16:58 NekoGloop I'm making clouds spawn
16:59 NekoGloop not clay
16:59 VanessaE do they move? ;-_)
16:59 NekoGloop no
16:59 VanessaE oh, too bad
16:59 PilzAdam VanessaE, they are nodes
16:59 NekoGloop they are see-through, unwalkable, climbable, and diggable
16:59 NekoGloop and also cant seem to generate worth shit
17:00 VanessaE I wonder - how big can an entity be>
17:00 VanessaE I mean, the visual scale of it
17:00 PilzAdam VanessaE, gogolplex
17:00 NekoGloop PilzAdam: as soon as you figure out how to make more cloud-like clouds, tell me
17:00 VanessaE in other words, as bgi as you want...
17:00 NekoGloop also, how do i make them see through and not cull faces of nodes behind it?
17:00 PilzAdam https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Googolplex
17:01 VanessaE know what a googleplex is :-)
17:01 VanessaE I*
17:01 VanessaE neko: water alpha, but fat lotta good that'll do until c55 implements z-sorting
17:02 VanessaE NekoGloop: supposedly the "allfaces" drawtype will do that
17:02 VanessaE but it's broken.
17:02 VanessaE the faces are culled anyway
17:02 NekoGloop yeah, i noticed.
17:03 NekoGloop what does paramtype = "light" do?
17:03 PilzAdam same as sunglight_propagates = true
17:03 VanessaE ah
17:04 Jordach xdoors 2 has a bug
17:04 VanessaE what bug?
17:04 VanessaE (that mod was a bitch to texture, btw)
17:04 Jordach it always has the same cut out, even with different textures
17:04 VanessaE yup I know
17:05 VanessaE that's not a bug, it's a feature
17:05 Jordach but the default door fits to anytexture
17:05 Jordach xpanes does this
17:05 Jordach can make cubes to anytexture inputted
17:05 Jordach so im gunna make that
17:05 VanessaE the textures supplied with Xdoors² are actually solid on the top half.
17:05 Jordach VanessaE, i noticed
17:05 VanessaE so the cutout doesn't follow any lines at all, just the nodeboxes
17:05 Jordach thats what i mean
17:05 VanessaE I played hell getting the HDX version to look right
17:05 Jordach "allow any texture cutouts"
17:06 VanessaE well there's a problem with that:
17:06 Jordach rather than some locked version
17:06 Jordach explain
17:06 VanessaE you can't get the 3d effect and just "any" cutout.
17:06 VanessaE you have to pick one.
17:06 Jordach go check xpanes
17:06 VanessaE because the game has no extrude feature
17:06 Jordach the code in that supports any texture
17:06 VanessaE sure
17:06 Jordach so yes, it can be done
17:06 VanessaE but it's still nodeboxes
17:06 Jordach ikr
17:06 PilzAdam NekoGloop, http://ompldr.org/vZm9hYQ
17:06 VanessaE so it's faked
17:07 Jordach but my point is; that small change will allow custon door shapes
17:07 Jordach custom*
17:07 Calinou Jordach> it always has the same cut out, even with different textures
17:07 Calinou I tweaked my local copy so that it only uses a 3-pixel-wide nodebox
17:07 NekoGloop PilzAdam: closer to what I want, could you pass me the generation code?
17:07 Calinou like in minecraft
17:07 PilzAdam generate_ore("default:cloud", "air", minp, maxp, seed, 10^-5, 10, 150, 75, 100)
17:07 Jordach Calinou, does it still have the same bug?
17:07 Calinou lol'd at 10^-5
17:08 Calinou Jordach: what bug? the textures? now you can use any texture and it works fine
17:08 PilzAdam maybe increase 150 a bit to make it a bit more "solid"
17:08 NekoGloop trying 250
17:09 VanessaE Jordach: http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/screenshots/screenshot_232409093.png
17:09 VanessaE see? it can look damn good if you spend enough time on it :-)
17:10 Jordach but the static shape bugs the hell out of me
17:10 Calinou WE ARE THE 99%
17:10 NekoGloop those textures... ick.
17:10 Calinou TEXTURE/SOUND OVERRIDES PL0X
17:10 Calinou we need better texture definitions
17:11 VanessaE neko, why don't you like them anyway?
17:11 NekoGloop because too detailed
17:11 Calinou eg: you put "default_stone.png", the textures will automatically be adjusted based on the presence of _side, _top, _bottom, _front, _back
17:11 VanessaE I like lots of detail :-)
17:11 Calinou thus, you would be able to tweak that with texture packs
17:11 Calinou eg. chest with different top and bottom texture without editing lua
17:11 VanessaE Calinou: +100000
17:11 Calinou would help for standardization now
17:12 Calinou now go highlight The God(R)
17:12 Calinou :
17:12 Calinou :>*
17:12 * Calinou has failed a smiley 7 times.
17:12 PilzAdam NekoGloop, can i reales my clouds in the forum?
17:12 NekoGloop PilzAdam: if you really want to
17:12 NekoGloop everything i do is WTFPL
17:13 PilzAdam you can make your trampolin clouds ;-)
17:13 VanessaE PilzAdam: make a variant that creates clouds that surround tall mountains :-)
17:13 PilzAdam VanessaE, no, i cant
17:13 NekoGloop i dont really want trampoline clouds, but such would be trivial
17:13 Calinou VanessaE: your door texture is awesome btw
17:13 * Calinou needs to tweak misa's, it is terrible
17:13 Calinou perhaps just hide the center frame :>
17:13 VanessaE Calinou: thanks :-)
17:15 VanessaE Calinou: I even tweaked the top/bottom textures so that the sides of the door flow "around", making them look like 2x4's :-)
17:15 PilzAdam <NekoGloop> everything i do is WTFPL : but you didnt any code for me
17:16 Calinou there, removed the whole top frame in misa's pack
17:16 NekoGloop PilzAdam: which includes the nodedef
17:16 Calinou "minetest forum, the place with the most WTFPL'd stuff" -- celeron55
17:16 NekoGloop which I've made a better version of already
17:17 PilzAdam me too
17:17 PilzAdam you have a post_effect_color?
17:17 * VanessaE groans...anyone get the number of that truck and ran me over? :-S
17:17 NekoGloop yes
17:17 LAD hi a;;z
17:17 LAD allz*
17:17 VanessaE post_effect_color?
17:17 VanessaE what's shit sorcery?
17:17 VanessaE AHAHA .. THIS*
17:18 NekoGloop the color shown when the player is inside the node.
17:18 VanessaE (I knew someday I was gonna slip up on that)
17:18 NekoGloop defaults to black
17:18 VanessaE NekoGloop: so you could put fake nodes around the player and set the post_effect_color to fake some kind of screen effect?
17:18 VanessaE or can you see through it at all
17:18 NekoGloop in theory, yes
17:19 NekoGloop in practice, probably not
17:19 VanessaE too bad
17:19 VanessaE thinking of ...ooooo
17:19 VanessaE idea!
17:19 VanessaE wedge into the /teleport command, make the screen flash and flicker during the teleport action
17:19 NekoGloop do share.
17:20 NekoGloop heh
17:20 NekoGloop gl hf
17:20 VanessaE so it looks like you're standing in a transporter or so
17:20 VanessaE spawn a couple of animated nodes just before the player appears at their destination, make them look something like the spawn/teleport effect in Quake or OpenArena (and erase them after a second_)
17:21 Calinou <NekoGloop> defaults to black
17:21 Calinou no, defaults to none
17:21 Calinou 255, 1, 1, 1 post effect color != "suffocation screen"
17:21 Calinou especially before 0.3, where the whole HUD was hidden
17:21 NekoGloop Calinou: nononono
17:21 NekoGloop 0,0,0,0 == suffocation screen
17:22 NekoGloop 255,1,1,1 is a fully transparent dark grey
17:22 PilzAdam NekoGloop, no
17:23 NekoGloop yes
17:23 NekoGloop 255 is fully transparent
17:23 PilzAdam no, its fully opaque
17:23 VanessaE usually higher numbers in alpha = more opaque
17:23 NekoGloop no its not
17:23 NekoGloop try it
17:23 PilzAdam i did
17:24 PilzAdam https://github.com/PilzAdam/minetest_game/commit/e3da36094cdbb83a12d748bf776998e285085297
17:24 VanessaE PilzAdam: wow, 3.8M projects on github? dayum
17:24 PilzAdam sign out and go to github.com; theres the number
17:25 PilzAdam does post_effect_color work for normal drawtypes?
17:25 VanessaE never noticed it before, it's not too often I use github's web interface
17:26 NekoGloop pilzadam: should
17:26 PilzAdam nope, it doesnt
17:26 OldCoder Irksome Duck's Houses RAR was O.K. to begin with but is corrupted now. Did anybody get a copy before it went bad?
17:26 VanessaE what link?
17:27 VanessaE found it.
17:28 OldCoder I had a good copy
17:28 OldCoder But need to retrieve it
17:28 VanessaE lemme see if I can coax it to extract properly here
17:28 OldCoder cornernote IIRC has had a similar problem
17:28 OldCoder Yes; I mostly need the sqlite file
17:28 OldCoder RAR seems finicky
17:29 VanessaE hrm, that's what fails here too
17:29 VanessaE just that one file
17:29 OldCoder Yep. O.K. Thank you.
17:30 OldCoder VanessaE, the odd part is that it extracted originally. Some sort of problem with the host.
17:33 PilzAdam NekoGloop & others: https://github.com/PilzAdam/minetest_game/commit/723aab1c36f6e11bfa9648c4af86f56009c7f730
17:33 OldCoder Should I pull the game?
17:33 OldCoder How many changes this week?
17:34 VanessaE heh, try to load the file with the CRC error = crash minetest. heh
17:34 PilzAdam OldCoder, https://github.com/PilzAdam/minetest_game/graphs/commit-activity
17:34 PilzAdam -> 2
17:34 OldCoder PilzAdam, I am new to this; are you committing to the master copy?
17:35 OldCoder I am distracted but can work on things a bit
17:35 Jordach OldCoder, you are always distracted
17:35 iqualfragile so i spent too much time figuring out how to use the perlin-stuffs as a mask: http://ompldr.org/vZm9hdQ/minetestclouds.png
17:35 OldCoder Jordach, It has been an odd year
17:35 Jordach 2012 is an odd year
17:36 VanessaE I can only guess the file hosting site corrupted the file after it was uploaded e.g due to a crash or filesystem bug or something.
17:36 Jordach its not a power of two
17:36 Jordach >:)
17:36 Jordach VanessaE, i have a WinRAR.
17:36 Jordach i may be able to do something
17:36 OldCoder VanessaE, O.K. No big deal. Jordach It is not even the end of the world as has been promised.
17:36 VanessaE need to wait another 36 years for a power-of-two year, jordah. sorry :-)
17:37 Jordach jordah?
17:37 VanessaE I used the linux unrar command to extract it, keeping the broken file... bah
17:37 Jordach >:(
17:37 PilzAdam who is jordah?
17:37 VanessaE Jordach even
17:37 PilzAdam joda?
17:37 VanessaE yoda?
17:37 VanessaE :-)
17:37 Jordach VanessaE, beat me there
17:37 OldCoder I have had soda
17:37 Jordach also
17:37 Jordach homedecor needs kitchens
17:37 NekoGloop XD
17:37 VanessaE Jordach: I know. that's the next planned update
17:38 Jordach :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D
17:38 NekoGloop bouncy clouds are purple :3
17:38 Jordach VanessaE - get on with it.
17:38 VanessaE fridge, stove, dishwasher, cabinetry, countertops
17:38 * Jordach whips VanessaE with a IPV6 Address
17:38 VanessaE soon. I've been doing lots of updates lately anyway
17:38 NekoGloop bouncy nodes actually reject a player walking into it
17:39 Jordach apparently sausage (un-battered) and chips dis-likes my gut :(
17:39 VanessaE Jordach: doo much grease?
17:39 VanessaE too*
17:39 Jordach beef dripping
17:39 VanessaE yup, that would do it
17:40 * Jordach has a wii and MK Wii
17:40 VanessaE sugar is my downfall these days. too much of that --- hoo boy do I react badly.
17:40 VanessaE our Wii doesn't get enough use :-/
17:40 Jordach damn you evolution
17:40 VanessaE love to bowl but I'm always so damn tired
17:40 Jordach VanessaE - use wii fit :)
17:40 PilzAdam my Wii too
17:42 PilzAdam Mikeonline, im online
17:43 VanessaE Jordach: you're crazy, right?
17:43 OldCoder Crazy Like a Fox
17:43 OldCoder In a Box
17:44 OldCoder Eating Lox
17:44 VanessaE a 183kg woman trying to play Wii Fit??
17:44 Jordach VanessaE, im getting a tad fat my self; about 26inches for my gut
17:44 VanessaE you're surely insane.
17:44 OldCoder In the Brain
17:44 VanessaE OldCoder: mmmmlox
17:44 Jordach s/26/36
17:44 Jordach im 36 inches
17:44 NekoGloop VanessaE: care to make a selection box for papyrus?
17:44 VanessaE OldCoder: ever had bagels with cream cheese, lox, red onion, and tomato?
17:44 Jordach and weigh about 90kg
17:44 OldCoder Yum
17:44 OldCoder Oh now I am thinking about food
17:44 Jordach FUCK YEAH.
17:45 VanessaE NekoGloop: {-0.3, -0.5, -0.3, 0.3, 0.5. 0.3} should do I'd think
17:45 NekoGloop kk
17:46 NekoGloop saplings need one as well
17:46 VanessaE OldCoder: go to the store, pick up the above (make sure the lox is smoked and fully cooked). Slice and toast the bagel. Apply the other ingredients liberally.
17:46 VanessaE NekoGloop: for those, I'd say {-0.15, -0.5, -0.15, 0.15, -0.1, 0.15}
17:46 VanessaE as a rough guess
17:46 OldCoder VanessaE, I would if I could. Food. Steak.
17:46 VanessaE steak? bleah
17:47 OldCoder Very well. Avocado. Fish sticks. Mac OS and Cheese.
17:47 PilzAdam -1 for Mac
17:47 NekoGloop well it's apple flavoured.
17:48 OldCoder O.K. Then Chicken Soup for the Soul. A bowl. Banana pie. With cherries on it.
17:48 VanessaE hey, I happen to LOVE mac & cheese
17:48 Jordach rubenwardy would end up making this for the food mod
17:48 Jordach D:
17:48 VanessaE heh
17:48 VanessaE I'll suggest it to him. :-)
17:49 VanessaE bagels and lox is really good stuff :-)
17:49 VanessaE (but you'll need to smelt the bagel to toast it :D )_
17:49 OldCoder Yep
17:50 NekoGloop XD
17:50 NekoGloop toast a bagel the same way we get stone.
17:50 NekoGloop seems legit
17:50 Jordach or a furnace
17:51 Jordach that is a toaster
17:51 Jordach that can at random make a nyan catr
17:51 VanessaE NekoGloop: well no one said the oven has to run more than a couple of seconds to toast a bagel :-)
17:51 VanessaE after all, that's how it was done in ancient times - the same oven/furnace for food as for materials :-)
17:52 NekoGloop cooktime = 1?
17:52 VanessaE not sure how cooktimes work.
17:52 Jordach google it :)
17:52 VanessaE tl;dc
17:52 VanessaE :-)
17:52 NekoGloop or cooktime = 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001
17:52 VanessaE (too lazy; don't care)
17:53 OldCoder Here is a question. I have an SQLITE file for Irksome Duck. But I ran that copy before adding the required mods. Did all of his special objects vanish from the SQLITE when I did that? Or would they be there now that the mods are installed?
17:53 VanessaE they'll still be there.
17:53 VanessaE just plug the good file into the world folder in place of the bad one
17:54 OldCoder Somebody else said *poof* about nonexistent objects. But very well. I will open the world momentarily.
17:54 OldCoder O.K. It's there. But I don't see snow, workers, carts, etc.
17:54 VanessaE nope, they'll just be undefined until you put the mods back in
17:54 VanessaE unless they're entities, then they may disappear.
17:55 VanessaE (e.g mobs)
17:55 OldCoder If anybody would like to try it, the world is port 30006 at develan.com
17:55 OldCoder PM me for access
17:55 OldCoder The link for all of his teleport coordinates is:
17:55 OldCoder http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3066
17:55 VanessaE oldcoder, error
17:55 OldCoder VanessaE, go on
17:55 OldCoder ?
17:55 VanessaE you should allow the user to sign on with a password the first time, to set it
17:55 OldCoder It is whitelisted
17:55 VanessaE never never never allow empty passwords.
17:55 OldCoder Not following
17:55 OldCoder I do not
17:56 VanessaE oh ok
17:56 VanessaE well whitelist me then ;)
17:56 OldCoder PMg
17:56 * PilzAdam pokes Mikeonline
17:56 VanessaE "Access Denied. Reason: Invalid Password"
17:56 OldCoder Yes
17:56 OldCoder PM
18:03 NekoGloop VanessaE: papyrus is perfect
18:04 NekoGloop sapling is, however, not good :P
18:04 VanessaE I just guessed at it
18:04 NekoGloop sapling one is better suited to an appl
18:04 NekoGloop apple*
18:04 VanessaE what's wrong with the sapling one?
18:04 VanessaE too small, too big?
18:04 NekoGloop too short
18:05 NekoGloop and i mean, WAAAY too short
18:05 VanessaE ok, change the -0.1 to 0.2 (positive)
18:05 VanessaE (the second Y coord)
18:05 VanessaE see how that fits
18:05 NekoGloop {-0.3, -0.5, -0.3, 0.3, 0.2, 0.3}
18:05 NekoGloop trying this one now
18:06 NekoGloop 5th number should be 0.35
18:06 VanessaE ok, give that a shot
18:07 VanessaE without having the texture in front of me I have to guess at it ;)
18:10 NekoGloop it works
18:15 VanessaE cool
18:16 VanessaE NekoGloop: can you put a pull request against minetest_game for those selection boxes?
18:16 Jordach VanessaE - i plan on making a Minetest lets play soon
18:16 NekoGloop too lazy :3
18:17 VanessaE Jordach: cool
18:17 * Jordach found xbox headset
18:18 VanessaE cool also :-)
18:19 NekoGloop sapling: {-0.3, -0.5, -0.3, 0.3, 0.35, 0.3}. apple: {-0.15, -0.5, -0.15, 0.15, 0, 0.15}. papyrus: {-0.3, -0.5, -0.3, 0.3, 0.5, 0.3}.
18:19 NekoGloop do pull request yourself :P
18:19 VanessaE no :-)
18:19 VanessaE too lazy ;)
18:19 Jordach [19:18:37] <VanessaE> cool also :-) - you said cool to a MS product??!?!
18:19 VanessaE Jordach: no, I said cool to you having found what you were looking for
18:19 VanessaE besides,
18:19 Jordach but not droids ;)
18:19 VanessaE MS was always good at games, that's the one thing I can't fault them for
18:20 VanessaE anything else, fuck 'em :-)
18:20 VanessaE haha
18:20 * Jordach still has a windows 98 entertainment games pack
18:20 NekoGloop MS needs to stop focusing on games and make fucking computers.
18:20 VanessaE no way
18:20 NekoGloop less focus on games == better computers
18:20 Jordach VanessaE - for some damn reason i never lag on windows
18:21 VanessaE if they were to make a computer (as in a general purpose wintel box), it'll be so locked that that Mac will look like open source by comparison
18:21 NekoGloop oh lol
18:21 NekoGloop i mean OS
18:21 Jordach pc gaming
18:21 VanessaE oh, OS
18:21 VanessaE heh
18:21 VanessaE all they need to do is ditch windows, take linux and rebadge it :-)
18:22 NekoGloop fuck linux
18:22 VanessaE (it would be better overall for them - less to maintain!()
18:22 Naked no money in linux
18:22 VanessaE fuck windows :)
18:22 VanessaE Naked: tell that to Valve.
18:22 VanessaE Steam is coming to Linux, with wide beta starting next week.
18:22 NekoGloop here's something we can agree on: fuck google.
18:22 VanessaE NekoGloop: yeah, google sucks lately doesn't it
18:22 Naked can they take linux os and sell it?
18:22 VanessaE Naked: sure, why not?
18:22 Jordach or at least the kernel
18:22 VanessaE Android does that
18:23 VanessaE as long as they make the source code available, they can sell it
18:23 Naked wont happen
18:23 Naked source code is like their meal ticket
18:23 VanessaE probably not, but then again look at Mac OSX - that's based on FreeBSD I think.
18:24 VanessaE nono I mean the source code to the linux they started with and to whatever changes they make to the existing code - they don't have to release source code to their own tools, just their changes to the existing codebase.
18:24 Jordach yep.
18:24 Jordach VanessaE knows what shes talking about, and so do i
18:24 Jordach holy crap IPV6]
18:29 VanessaE there we go, forgot to credit NekoGloop for helping me with the nightstand inventories :-)
18:29 NekoGloop lol
18:29 VanessaE Jordach: IPV6...meh. bad idea :-/
18:29 NekoGloop credit me as GloopMaster
18:29 VanessaE who the hell can remember an 8-part IP address that looks like a souped-up MAC address?
18:29 VanessaE NekoGloop: I did,.
18:30 NekoGloop kk
18:30 NekoGloop i have an idea for my gamemode
18:30 NekoGloop desert cobble
18:31 Jordach no
18:31 Jordach fuck no
18:31 NekoGloop too bad
18:31 Jordach THANK GOD
18:31 Jordach mijyn is an ass
18:32 NekoGloop you do know we are being logged, right?
18:32 Jordach NekoGloop, mijyn is the fault of everything
18:32 NekoGloop not really
18:32 NekoGloop only for the name
18:33 NekoGloop the "attacker", as he put it, would have just chosen another name.
18:34 Mikeonline bye
18:34 Mikeonline all
18:35 Jordach NekoGloop, he acted highly strange last night
18:35 Jordach OldCoder even saw this
18:36 NekoGloop so did i
18:38 Jordach VanessaE, head to the kitchen, metalize the stuff, make a fridge chest and a furnace oven
18:39 Jordach s/metalize/mentalize
18:39 * Jordach can then get food out of a fridge and then make food with an oven
18:39 LAD what is akalin if any 1 can anser
18:39 OldCoder I am trying to get a Vanessa world to work. Crashes quickly with this error message. Any comments?
18:40 OldCoder 18:38:01: ERROR[main]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: ServerError: LuaError: error: ...etest/games/minetest_game/mods/default/leafdecay.lua:50: attempt to index local 'reg' (a nil value)
18:40 Jordach no clue
18:40 Jordach if n.name == "ignore" or (reg.groups.tree and reg.groups.tree ~= 0) then
18:41 Jordach its looking for tree=1 as a group
18:41 Jordach and she had nature mod installed
18:41 VanessaE maybe that's what's missing?
18:41 VanessaE try installing nature mod but disable the ridiculous growing tree code
18:42 NekoGloop LAD: akalin is akalin
18:42 NekoGloop has no use as of yet, 'cept to make blocks
18:42 Jordach ^ beat me there
18:42 VanessaE Jordach: re: kitchen stuff, I already have it in my mind what to make, just too lazy right now ;)
18:42 * Jordach slaps VanessaE with a IPv6 IP address
18:43 VanessaE ow.
18:43 * VanessaE falls over, dead.
18:43 * Jordach has something long hard, and will hurt
18:43 * iqualfragile slaps jordach with tokenring
18:43 Jordach a IPv6 address
18:43 NekoGloop "long hard" ok, with what i thought you meant, it's obvious that I'm too tired.
18:43 Jordach 2620:105:b040:127:30df:eb6f:7b5c:43 - long, hard to remember, and will hurt
18:44 OldCoder Is nature mod stable? Does it have reasonable depends?
18:44 NekoGloop stable?
18:44 NekoGloop hell no.
18:44 OldCoder Hmm
18:44 Jordach crash crash crash
18:44 OldCoder VanessaE, is there another world you'd like?
18:44 Jordach OldCoder - world count?
18:44 VanessaE not off the top of my head
18:44 OldCoder Jordach, I am adding worlds. Anybody got one they'd like to contribute?
18:45 Jordach nope
18:45 OldCoder k
18:45 Jordach maybe a mesecons world.............drools
18:45 OldCoder Very well. Perhaps over time.
18:45 OldCoder I have one of those to add
18:45 OldCoder But it is a simple puzzle
18:45 Jordach bubu bubububum
18:45 OldCoder <Jordach> crash crash crash
18:45 NekoGloop for mesecons, have all the mods that use mesecons
18:45 OldCoder I prefer worlds that do not go crash crash crash :-)
18:45 OldCoder NekoGloop, Sure. Got a list?
18:46 OldCoder I will make a mesecons world
18:46 Jordach nature mod does that to unloaded chunks
18:46 NekoGloop my gates mod and xdoors2 as far as i know
18:46 OldCoder NekoGloop, I have those in the current set
18:46 OldCoder So world 30000 qualifies
18:46 NekoGloop kk
18:46 NekoGloop just run a creative world, for mass building
18:47 VanessaE bbl, I need to lie down.
18:56 iqualfragile bb
18:57 NekoGloop I wanna watch a let's play of minecraft but at the same time i wanna keep coding :/
18:58 OldCoder NekoGloop, Very well. Shall I clone the LM creative map?
18:58 OldCoder As he has offered one?
18:58 NekoGloop uh...
18:58 OldCoder Plus what are the .conf settings for creative?
18:58 OldCoder Heh
18:58 OldCoder It is a conundrum
18:58 NekoGloop creative_mode = true
18:58 OldCoder Very well
18:59 NekoGloop and i dont really care what map you use, just do a creative world.
18:59 OldCoder I will replace world 30006 which is broken with a creative world
18:59 OldCoder Proceeding
19:01 NekoGloop now, for books you can write in! :D
19:03 NekoGloop wait what
19:04 OldCoder Comment on these mods please: beds, protector, moreblocks
19:04 NekoGloop I can get meta from an itemstack, but i cant set it?
19:04 pouncerkitsune hello all
19:04 NekoGloop OldCoder: yes, yes, yes.
19:04 OldCoder very well
19:06 pouncerkitsune how is everyone
19:06 NekoGloop good
19:06 NekoGloop pouncer fox lol
19:07 pouncerkitsune o.o nice someone who knows what it means
19:07 NekoGloop heh
19:07 NekoGloop look at my name lol
19:09 OldCoder Kitsune is a common name
19:09 pouncerkitsune lol yep the cat demon
19:09 OldCoder And a fine one
19:10 NekoGloop how in hell am i supposed to set metadata of a itemstack?
19:10 NekoGloop pouncerkitsune: the last part isnt meant to be romanji
19:10 NekoGloop I'm just a kitty :3
19:10 pouncerkitsune lol
19:10 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=insCeDwbPaI&feature=related
19:11 pouncerkitsune im new to the hole minecraft/minetest whatever you want to call it lol
19:11 NekoGloop minetest.
19:12 pouncerkitsune cute i like it has kinda a yaoi feel to it
19:12 NekoGloop a WHAT?!
19:13 NekoGloop there's only one guy in the video... -_-
19:14 NekoGloop baka kitsune.
19:15 pouncerkitsune its cute i liked it
19:15 NekoGloop tis vocaloid.
19:15 NekoGloop though you probably know that.
19:16 pouncerkitsune i like anime but i havent been that gotten that indepth in it
19:17 NekoGloop not. anime.
19:18 pouncerkitsune what do you mean sorry im a little loopy from my meds so it make me kinda fuzzy
19:18 NekoGloop lol
19:18 NekoGloop it's a vocaloid PV.
19:18 NekoGloop for the song Trick and Treat, sung by Kagamine Rin and Kagamine Len
19:19 pouncerkitsune nice i liked the song it was good im jamming to some my chemical romance right now lol
19:19 NekoGloop lol
19:19 NekoGloop *has no idea what you just said*
19:20 pouncerkitsune lol sorry kinda loopy if i dont make sense just ignore it i hate these meds they make me feel drunk
19:21 NekoGloop lol
19:21 NekoGloop i cant make a writable book. :(
19:23 pouncerkitsune in game .. what are the books for i seen you could make them
19:23 NekoGloop making bookcases
19:23 NekoGloop which are equally useless.
19:24 pouncerkitsune lol
19:26 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kppBxSggsIA&feature=related ?etihstaw on atana
19:28 NekoGloop oh man, that took so long to type that little bit and i messed it up :P
19:32 pouncerkitsune you should check out florance and the machine ( what the water gave me ) on youtube
19:33 thexyz wtf is going on at this channel again?
19:33 pouncerkitsune what
19:33 NekoGloop thexyz: cake. that is all.
19:34 OldCoder I'll clone MT server from master now. Will that pick up this week's changes?
19:34 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znir_s4Q9BA&feature=related
19:38 NekoGloop saka ni wattete? (i think i spelled that right)
19:38 pouncerkitsune yay for F.I.A.B :D love this song
19:39 NekoGloop for... what...?
19:40 pouncerkitsune lol furries in a blender its a band well its techno not a band lol
19:41 NekoGloop oh right :P
19:44 OldCoder Shutting down servers to rebuild MT software and add a world
19:47 OldCoder Has anybody updated mods this week that they wish to have synced?
19:47 LAD cool
19:51 iqualfragile is there anything related to databases we could need for minetest?
19:53 rumbert Can the typeface size be increased (by the user)?
19:53 rumbert It is unusable for me as it is.
20:03 pouncerkitsune so where is everyone from
20:03 NekoGloop from the depths of lua modding
20:07 thexyz iqualfragile: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3005 ?
20:12 pouncerkitsune LOL
20:12 pouncerkitsune im from WV it sucks here
20:14 Mikeonline a short worldedit question: how to make all blocks empty?
20:15 Mikeonline air?
20:15 NekoGloop yes
20:15 Mikeonline cool :D
20:19 Octupus hello
20:20 OldCoder Octupus, wb
20:20 OldCoder Servers back online. Rebuilt using latest git. NekoGloop a Creative World is added. For a screenshot of the new world:
20:20 OldCoder http://oldcoder.org/general/minetest/
20:20 OldCoder There are also new mods.
20:21 Octupus cool
20:22 LAD octu
20:22 LAD IM SO HAPPY
20:22 NekoGloop lol you listed me on the page
20:23 NekoGloop i feel important :3
20:24 OldCoder NekoGloop, Of course
20:24 NekoGloop armor doesnt directly conflict with pvp, it only makes it really hard to be able to damage someone
20:25 NekoGloop it makes pvp way too long and drawn out
20:25 OldCoder Indirect conflict then
20:25 OldCoder Or complicates PVP. I'll change that.
20:25 NekoGloop ok
20:26 OldCoder NekoGloop, check out the Creative World when you can
20:26 NekoGloop kk
20:27 OldCoder redcrab, Hello
20:31 * Jordach is bored
20:31 OldCoder Jordach, check out the new server then
20:31 Jordach thank gos im clearing my downloads folder
20:31 NekoGloop lol
20:32 NekoGloop dont you just hate that google chrome puts things in that folder instead of letting you decide?
20:33 Jordach NekoGloop - there is a setting for this
20:33 Octupus hmm whats give for cardon?
20:34 Octupus FUCK
20:34 Octupus WHO KEEPS ON PRESSING THE BUTTON
20:34 NekoGloop you do
20:34 NekoGloop :D
20:35 Octupus wasnt me
20:39 NekoGloop why on earth is wool in snappy=2 and choppy=2
20:41 OldCoder VanessaE, present?
20:46 Mikeonline if sand = sand whats desertsand code?
20:47 NekoGloop desert sand is desert sand
20:47 Mikeonline with space for worldedit?
20:51 Octupus best for a mansion brick or cobble?
20:53 NekoGloop cobble
20:53 Octupus i put it in brick already XD
20:54 Octupus neko wanna help me make a caslte
20:54 Octupus and decorate the inside?
20:54 Octupus hi sfan
20:54 NekoGloop he went off
20:54 NekoGloop not came on :P
20:54 Octupus OHHH
20:54 Octupus XD
20:54 Mikeonline hm where in the source are the nodetimes defined?
20:55 NekoGloop the whaT?
20:55 Octupus MAN
20:56 Mikeonline the names of all nodetimes: sand cobblestone..
20:56 NekoGloop wtf is a nodetime
20:57 Octupus neko wanna help me with a castle?
20:57 NekoGloop nah
20:58 Octupus ok
20:59 LAD hmm
20:59 Octupus wa?
20:59 LAD realbadangle u on??
21:00 LAD oh wait nm
21:00 Jordach RealBadAngel is on
21:01 RealBadAngel whats up?
21:01 Octupus :D my castle looks good
21:02 LAD yes i did it
21:02 Octupus what?
21:02 LAD i got the technic pipes to work
21:03 Octupus cool
21:03 Octupus im building inside of ma castle
21:03 LAD kk
21:06 Octupus hi mrtux
21:06 mrtux hi
21:07 LAD hi mrtuz
21:07 LAD mrtux
21:08 Octupus I need some help with mesecons
21:08 Octupus any1 wanna help?
21:08 NekoGloop Meow.
21:09 Octupus Roff
21:09 Octupus Roof
21:09 Octupus any1 know the give for player detecter
21:10 Octupus ?
21:11 LAD y yes i do]
21:11 LAD but itson my other coputer
21:11 LAD XD so not at the moment
21:20 NekoGloop look, the fox is back :D
21:20 * VanessaE wanders in
21:20 VanessaE well I slept a little anyway
21:20 NekoGloop lol
21:21 NekoGloop wait wait wait wait wtf
21:21 NekoGloop games\minetest_game\dyes\init.lua:51: -- The whole unifieddyes palette as groups:
21:21 NekoGloop O.O
21:21 VanessaE mmhmm
21:21 NekoGloop is unifieddyes incorporated now?!
21:21 VanessaE no
21:22 VanessaE but it works alongside
21:22 VanessaE the two are cross-compatible
21:22 NekoGloop In default dyes mod
21:22 NekoGloop it is sitting right there in the code, that one comment
21:22 VanessaE Yep I know: UD for example can supply the in-game dyes
21:22 VanessaE so anyone who uses the group: method described in the API can use my dyes or the in-game ones
21:23 NekoGloop but why on earth is a comment pertaining to unifieddyes in the default dyes mod.
21:23 VanessaE because UD was created to do what the in-game dyes does, so c55 made them compatible
21:23 NekoGloop ooook then
21:24 VanessaE mine's the only proper external dye system, that's probably why he referenced it
21:24 NekoGloop is it possible that i could nag you for some default dye-esque images in unifieddyes colors?
21:25 NekoGloop er, scratch that
21:26 NekoGloop I'll just use unifieddyes in the gamemode, change some recipes.
21:27 VanessaE possibly :-)
21:27 VanessaE oh ok
21:27 NekoGloop VanessaE: may i please have wool in unifieddyes colors?
21:27 VanessaE wool doesn't work with any dye system - it uses its own
21:27 VanessaE cotton does though
21:27 LAD hmm
21:27 VanessaE looks quite similar to wool
21:27 VanessaE and I think can be made from cotton plants in my flowers mod
21:27 NekoGloop *has face that doesnt give a fuck*
21:28 NekoGloop I'm practically rewriting wool anyway, it's horrible
21:28 VanessaE the inbuilt wools can even be crafted at all, much less with UD colors
21:28 LAD i see all but have no face
21:28 VanessaE hi LAD
21:28 LAD XD hey
21:28 NekoGloop LAD: slenderman?
21:28 LAD yes
21:28 LAD XD
21:28 NekoGloop ohai there :D
21:28 * NekoGloop gives LAD $20
21:28 NekoGloop go away :D
21:29 LAD what
21:29 NekoGloop slenderman's $20
21:29 NekoGloop look it up :P
21:29 LAD XD
21:29 LAD dont feel like it
21:30 NekoGloop lol ok
21:30 LAD PGA
21:30 NekoGloop VanessaE: isnt there a really easy way to make the images in the UD color-format?
21:30 VanessaE there's my script, yeagh
21:30 VanessaE yeah*
21:30 VanessaE and the modding template
21:30 NekoGloop I'm providing a way to get wool in my gamemode, all i need is the images for UD colors
21:31 VanessaE well it's simple:
21:31 NekoGloop then do it :3
21:31 VanessaE first, create one wool image in bright red - whatever you'd call 100% saturated red. Give it all the detail youw ant.
21:31 VanessaE run my gentextures.sh script
21:31 LAD FGSWPTL
21:31 NekoGloop kk
21:31 VanessaE then load the modding template and modify it to become a wool mod - all the variables are at the top of the file and are easy to understand
21:32 NekoGloop is the red wool texture in the default wool mod "enough" for the script?
21:32 VanessaE mm, should be, lemme look at it real quick
21:33 VanessaE mmm...
21:33 NekoGloop looks like it may be too dark
21:33 VanessaE it's a little dark - I'd brighten it a bit and give it more saturation
21:33 VanessaE maybe by 25% for each
21:33 NekoGloop i have no fucking idea what you just said :P
21:34 NekoGloop I make textures, i dont fret over wtf i just did.
21:34 VanessaE load it into The GIMP, "Brightness and Contrast" -> brightness = +25. "Hue-Saturation" -> Saturation = +25
21:35 VanessaE then save the result
21:35 NekoGloop *doesnt have gimp, too lazy to download*
21:35 VanessaE well then you're just fucked ;)
21:35 VanessaE really though,
21:36 VanessaE any image editor should do
21:36 VanessaE brightness and saturation are basic stuff, virtually all image editors have those.
21:36 VanessaE MS Paint even :-)
21:36 NekoGloop all the ones i dont have
21:36 VanessaE heh
21:36 NekoGloop god i uninstalled that horrible little waste of disk space so long ago
21:37 VanessaE heh
21:38 iqualfragile are you shure about pain?
21:38 NekoGloop inb4 someone makes unifieddirt
21:38 FreeFull http://pixlr.com/
21:39 NekoGloop "windows cannot load the file "gentextures.sh""
21:40 NekoGloop apparently I cant run BASH scripts *)
21:40 Exio lolololol
21:40 NekoGloop 8)*
21:40 VanessaE heh
21:40 Exio install something real
21:40 NekoGloop windows is real
21:41 Exio windows is only for games
21:41 VanessaE really though, install cygwin, that should be enough to run bash scripts
21:41 NekoGloop and minetest is a game, is it not?
21:41 Exio like the Playstation
21:41 VanessaE but you'll also need imagemagick
21:41 NekoGloop VanessaE: nope.
21:41 VanessaE so better you should install a virtual machine...or code it by hand
21:41 VanessaE maybe convert the Bash script to Batch :-)
21:41 NekoGloop riiight.
21:41 VanessaE (is that even possible?)
21:42 NekoGloop or i could just ask you until you do it 8)
21:42 Exio NekoGloop: playing minetest != doing something with it
21:42 NekoGloop Exio: C++ ~= LUA
21:42 NekoGloop :D
21:42 Exio VanessaE: using 18364663 gotos
21:43 NekoGloop ..|.. <== the fingers i have up at Exio's comment
21:43 Exio k
21:45 VanessaE neko: http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/generated-textures.zip
21:45 VanessaE download this, extract, rename the folder to "textures" and use it with the modding template.
21:47 NekoGloop wow, wool_black got DARK
21:47 VanessaE yup
21:47 VanessaE 5%.
21:47 VanessaE (or was it 7.5%?)
21:47 VanessaE not quite 100% black (otherwise it would crush the details)
21:51 VanessaE the modding template is easy to customize. Download and extract it, rename the folder to "wool", then change two or three variables at the top of the file.
21:51 VanessaE Put that textures folder in there with the init.lua, and copy the result to your mods folder and see if it works.
21:51 NekoGloop you should make a webpage wherein you supply the base image, then the script is run, then a zip file is downloadable with that image.
21:52 VanessaE I might do that if I knew wtf I was doing :D
21:52 VanessaE oh
21:52 VanessaE note that the modding template probably already has a folder full of example textures that look like the '5' side of a dice. delete them.
21:53 NekoGloop note that i just copied the init.lua and depends.txt
21:53 VanessaE that works too.
21:57 VanessaE "Glowstone is cool i want it too but i dont know how to make mods so i have idea to find it first you find a glowstone underground then when you break it it gives 4 glowstone dust like when you break bricks i have some textures for it so it is very hard to make it"
21:57 NekoGloop ok, now i have a wool mod with a nice selection of colors ^^
21:57 VanessaE OH G*D someone please show this guy how to use punctuation!
21:58 VanessaE NekoGloop: excellent :-)
21:58 NekoGloop also tell him that we arent minecrap
21:58 VanessaE NekoGloop: also, you may notice that the modding template created the recipes for you also :-)
21:58 NekoGloop i noticed
21:59 NekoGloop lol there's no pink? (not that I really give a shit if there's pink)
22:00 VanessaE there is,
22:00 VanessaE light magenta I think
22:00 NekoGloop but none that uses wool_pink.png?
22:00 VanessaE nope, because pink doesn't appear on a standard HSV color wheel :-)
22:00 NekoGloop kk
22:00 VanessaE you could alias it though
22:01 NekoGloop nah
22:01 NekoGloop too lazy
22:01 NekoGloop dont care
22:01 NekoGloop etc.
22:02 leo_rockw glowstone would be really easy to do, if it hasn't been done already. But that would be unoriginal.
22:02 VanessaE lesse.. . light magenta and light red-violet are the two closest ones.
22:02 leo_rockw also, hello
22:02 VanessaE leo_rockw: done to death.
22:02 NekoGloop somehow.
22:02 NekoGloop now, to make unifieddyes use no flowers
22:02 NekoGloop magically.
22:02 VanessaE there's about half a dozen different glowing stones and a dozen or mode glowing glass or glass-like objects.
22:02 VanessaE NekoGloop: er.. good luck with that :D
22:03 NekoGloop bucket_water, apple, cactus. RGB right there.
22:03 leo_rockw VanessaE: I'm not surprised.
22:03 VanessaE ew.
22:03 NekoGloop heh heh
22:03 NekoGloop just kiddin
22:03 VanessaE water is *not* blue, it just looks blue because of Rayleigh scattering
22:03 NekoGloop I'm adding shitloads of things to the default game
22:03 VanessaE apple is meh, cactus is already used for green
22:03 Octupus water is purple
22:03 NekoGloop water is clear
22:04 NekoGloop things in the water make it look like a certain color
22:04 NekoGloop pure H2O will have no color (although such a substance almost never exists.)
22:06 VanessaE NekoGloop: that said, I went with alternate recipes in Homedecor to make it more useful until unified dyes becomes more popular
22:06 VanessaE dirt + coal = mahogany, apple = red, mese = yellow, and a few others.
22:07 NekoGloop ew, mese is too rare for a dye
22:07 VanessaE (why do we not have a naturally-blue item in the default game?)
22:07 NekoGloop (but ironically too common for what it's used for)
22:07 VanessaE eh, it ain't *that* rare, but I use it 1:4 with the material being dyed; 4 oak window shutters + 1 mese = 4 yellow shutters.
22:07 iqualfragile1 gn8
22:08 VanessaE argh.
22:08 VanessaE n8 does not sound like "night"
22:08 VanessaE please stop saying it. :-)
22:08 iqualfragile1 it does
22:08 iqualfragile1 in german
22:08 iqualfragile1 its like gute nacht
22:08 iqualfragile1 and you write and pronounce 8 as acht
22:09 VanessaE ahhh
22:09 VanessaE that explains it
22:09 VanessaE must be confusing around brits :-)
22:09 VanessaE and some americans - a 0 is sometimes pronounced "ought"
22:09 iqualfragile1 its allways null in germany
22:10 iqualfragile1 not nall as its pronounced in english
22:10 iqualfragile1 but null, you realy say u
22:11 VanessaE actually in english it's pronounced as 'full' or 'gull'
22:11 iqualfragile1 yeah, but its a bit different anyways
22:13 Basstard` Is there breathing in the game yet?
22:13 VanessaE there's drowning and suffocating, via third-party mods
22:13 VanessaE but nothing in the default game.
22:13 Basstard` I want inhale and exhale.
22:14 VanessaE (do not want.)
22:14 NekoGloop anyway, naturally blue substance.... thinking.... thinking...
22:14 Basstard` That you need to keep track of your breathing. Because in real life you can't hold your breath for long, you need to exhale, and then inhale, and so on.
22:15 NekoGloop Basstard`: i code, any dont think about breathing.
22:15 NekoGloop why should i have to ingame?
22:15 VanessaE I'd say that's taking realism too far :-)
22:15 MiJyn hi
22:15 VanessaE evening MiJyn
22:15 NekoGloop not even realisn
22:15 NekoGloop just something to make the game harder...
22:15 VanessaE yup
22:16 Naked thats why you dont mix realism with game. fun always has to take priority
22:16 VanessaE exactly
22:16 NekoGloop an amount of realism is ok
22:16 NekoGloop in fact helpful
22:16 VanessaE but a little bit of realism is okay - you wouldn't try to make iron from water, for example
22:16 Naked ONLy and only if it amplifies the fun
22:16 NekoGloop but making a game == real life? pass.
22:17 NekoGloop we need a call back for general rightclick with item in-hand
22:17 VanessaE naw, making it too real sucks too
22:18 VanessaE realistic textures are fine of course, but for example Realtest mod? too real.
22:18 MiJyn yeah
22:20 NekoGloop that's what i said
22:21 * VanessaE goes back to making homedecor realistic ;)
22:21 NekoGloop XD
22:22 NekoGloop OH THE IRONY
22:22 VanessaE so, is there a way to force an inventory to 'whitelist' certain items?
22:22 NekoGloop hm?
22:22 VanessaE I need to add a fridge and an oven, I'd rather prefer that both can only handle food.
22:22 NekoGloop probably, but beyond me.
22:23 NekoGloop using group checking and allow_metadata_inventory_put (or w/e it's called)
22:23 Octupus my castle is almost finished
22:24 Octupus just building the last 2 towers
22:25 Basstard` Is it realistic carrying huge things in your inventory?
22:25 FreeFull Link never complains
22:26 Octupus any1 got some cydia sources that are good?
22:26 VanessaE Basstard`: not really, but it's useful in the game, therefor, fun.
22:26 VanessaE but consider:
22:26 VanessaE your inventory, chests, etc. are all hammerspace.
22:26 VanessaE you carry a miniature Tardis with you :-)
22:26 Basstard` Oh, thanks for reminding me, I need to get the new episodes, been a bit slow with them.
22:29 Mikeonline good night all
22:30 MiJyn minetest.register_vehicle("sitting:magic_chair", {
22:30 MiJyn description = "Magic Chair",
22:30 MiJyn visual = "cube",
22:30 MiJyn -- 2 Nodes per second
22:30 MiJyn default_speed = 2,
22:30 MiJyn -- Needed
22:30 MiJyn sittable = true,
22:30 MiJyn on_sit = function(self, player)
22:30 MiJyn self.forward()
22:30 MiJyn end,
22:30 MiJyn on_unsit = function(self, player)
22:30 MiJyn self.stop()
22:30 MiJyn end,
22:30 MiJyn })
22:30 MiJyn :D
22:30 Octupus castle de octupus is complete
22:32 Jordach annnnnddd??
22:32 Octupus whats give for snow?
22:32 Basstard` Oh, is there sitting in the game yet? We need that too.
22:32 MiJyn Basstard, yes
22:33 MiJyn ish
22:33 Jordach Octupus - are you using a creative server
22:33 Octupus nope
22:33 Jordach alright
22:33 Octupus it my server
22:33 Basstard` MiJyn: So you can sit down on the grass and have a picnic?
22:33 MiJyn so now, anyone can create a vehicle!
22:33 MiJyn Basstard`, not yet. You have to make grass "sittable = true"
22:33 Jordach i like trains
22:33 MiJyn and then, yes
22:33 MiJyn (but you can't sit in the middle of 2 nodes)
22:34 * NekoGloop gets a train and runs over Jordach
22:34 Basstard` MiJyn: Can you "sit" on people so one can ride the other?
22:34 NekoGloop XD
22:34 Octupus XD
22:34 Basstard` Uhm, I mean, like you do with children.
22:34 Basstard` Uhm..
22:34 Octupus XD
22:34 MiJyn Basstard`, uh... I haven't added support for non-walkable entities
22:34 NekoGloop yeah, that wasnt sexually intended at all
22:34 MiJyn so no
22:34 MiJyn xD
22:35 Basstard` NekoGloop: Where are your thoughts?
22:35 NekoGloop in the gutter, like yours
22:35 Basstard` NekoGloop: You dirty little bugger.
22:35 NekoGloop and also still sleeping in my bed
22:35 NekoGloop brb gettin them back
22:36 NekoGloop back
22:37 NekoGloop :3
22:37 MiJyn I doubt that C55 is gonna add this though :(
22:37 NekoGloop prolly not
22:37 MiJyn he has been mad at me for a lot (you know, disturbing his channel, asking questions without googling)
22:37 NekoGloop go suggest in #minetest-delta, see if you get channel-banned
22:37 MiJyn and, as everyone knows, he judges by the person, not the code lol
22:38 NekoGloop precisely
22:38 MiJyn :/
22:38 NekoGloop so he thinks my code is wild and stupid.
22:38 Basstard` Uh, really?
22:38 NekoGloop :D
22:38 Jordach MiJyn - celeron55 is not here
22:38 MiJyn Jordach, I know
22:38 Jordach blag him all ya like
22:38 MiJyn :D
22:38 NekoGloop *cough*loggingbot*cough*
22:38 Jordach *everyone says nothing*
22:38 MiJyn if he doesn't, and if my code is clean, I'll have a good argument against him :P
22:39 Basstard` MiJyn: As long as you release the code under the proper license.
22:40 MiJyn yeah
22:40 MiJyn I guess
22:40 MiJyn idc what he does to it, as long as he gives me credit for the code that I wrote
22:47 Jordach c55 would be much more nice if he'd get to know people
22:47 VanessaE suggestion from one of the folks on the server I'm on - combine raillike draw type with nodeboxes for the actual object. He seems to think this possible
22:48 NekoGloop not possible
22:48 Jordach VanessaE, meh
22:48 Jordach NekoGloop, have you tried?
22:48 NekoGloop yes
22:48 NekoGloop fails at: working
22:48 * Jordach knows sleep is beckoning
22:48 NekoGloop ?
22:49 OldCoder Restarting my servers for backup
22:49 Jordach [23:49:09] > CTCP reply TIME Fri Sep 28 23:49:09 2012 from Jordach
22:49 OldCoder Players will glitch
22:49 Jordach s normal
22:49 Jordach as
22:49 Jordach i need sleep
22:49 Jordach im rather tired now
22:49 NekoGloop VanessaE: anything in mind for blue natural objects?
22:49 Jordach :)
22:50 VanessaE Neko: no idea at all, except for flowers
22:50 VanessaE hence the reason I added geraniums.
22:50 NekoGloop ol
22:50 NekoGloop lol*
22:50 NekoGloop welll....
22:50 NekoGloop noone is saying i MUST be realistic...
22:50 Jordach moon dust smells of geraniums
22:50 VanessaE I know,
22:51 VanessaE but I really don't care for the idea of having ridiculously fictional elements in a game
22:51 Jordach and tastes like glass
22:51 NekoGloop then it wont be RIDICULOUSLY fictional
22:51 OldCoder Octupus, your world is Creative now as you requested
22:51 * Jordach now has top go to bed
22:51 Octupus Yay thank u very much
22:51 NekoGloop like, ahem, blue dye from lapis lazuli, as per minecrapo
22:51 VanessaE yup, ir mithril in minetest.
22:52 VanessaE but that still requires a separate mod.
22:52 NekoGloop moreores will be implemented, as will gloopores
22:52 VanessaE if moreores and moreblocks were in the default game, we'd have orders of magnitude more recipe possibilities than now
22:52 Basstard` I don't want a world of green grass and blue sky. I want a world of.. curtains! and.. hummus!
22:52 NekoGloop but dye from ore?
22:52 NekoGloop stupidest idea ever
22:52 VanessaE sure, why not? lots of colors came from natural ores
22:53 NekoGloop eh.
22:53 VanessaE way back in the beginning of time anyway
22:53 VanessaE sandstone was common for drawing in shades of brown, coal/charcoal for black and greys
22:53 VanessaE etc.
22:53 NekoGloop randomly awesome music: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOIxHLGWgQE&feature=relmfu
22:55 NekoGloop now... something blue... something blue....
22:56 NekoGloop hmmmmmmmmmmm.......
22:56 VanessaE flowers or ores are the best bets, neko. geraniums or mithril.
22:56 VanessaE think chalk
22:56 VanessaE that comes in any color you wanty
22:56 * NekoGloop is faintly thinking of using junglegrass
22:56 VanessaE noooooooo
22:56 NekoGloop yesssssssssssss
22:56 NekoGloop why not?
22:57 Basstard` Minetest needs hummus and halva.
22:57 VanessaE because it ain't even close to blue and I already use ot to make differnet things.
22:57 NekoGloop who's to say that the implied "juices" of the junglegrass are green?
22:57 VanessaE Basstard`: halva is too crumbly ;)
22:57 NekoGloop pfft.
22:57 VanessaE NekoGloop: they're clear - I use junglegrass as a dye base and also to make plastic :-)
22:57 NekoGloop this gamemode isnt made to support other mods
22:57 Basstard` VanessaE: I have some right here :)
22:58 NekoGloop k then...
22:58 VanessaE NekoGloop: but it should anyway, because people will want to try.
22:58 NekoGloop and then the game may say "fuck you"
22:58 NekoGloop so :)
22:58 VanessaE heh
22:58 VanessaE no
22:58 VanessaE it'll say "Some Exception". :-)
22:59 NekoGloop homedecor will be integrated once you use nodeboxes for more thing
22:59 NekoGloop like tables
22:59 VanessaE I'll get those eventually too
22:59 RealBadAngel http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indigo
22:59 VanessaE a little at a time, otherwise I'll get overwhealmed.
22:59 VanessaE -a
23:00 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: the plant used therein is what I'm getting at
23:00 VanessaE if you're gonna use a plant, use a damn geranium already
23:00 VanessaE don't define something new if something existing is good enough
23:00 NekoGloop VanessaE: but i already have junglegrass
23:00 NekoGloop i dont want spawning of stuff every ten seconds
23:01 NekoGloop on_generated is fine for me
23:01 VanessaE even if I make them use perlin noise to biome-ize them?
23:01 VanessaE (that's the plan anyway)
23:01 NekoGloop on_generated or get out
23:01 NekoGloop :)
23:01 VanessaE on_generated sucks for live servers.
23:01 VanessaE sooner or later it will run out
23:02 VanessaE for plants to grow only once and never re-generate seems too UNrealistic
23:02 VanessaE brb
23:02 NekoGloop then that's too bad.
23:02 NekoGloop also, junglegrass grows to 3 in height in my gamemode, let's not forget that.
23:02 RealBadAngel so make it just plantable
23:02 RealBadAngel so players can make farms
23:02 NekoGloop I've done that.
23:03 NekoGloop even made api (soon to be released) that allows people to specify right in nodedef what height it grows to, and when it grows.
23:04 NekoGloop will be released when pulled away from the workings of the gamemode
23:04 NekoGloop basically I made everything have descriptive groups.
23:04 NekoGloop so crafting+abms are easier to manage.
23:04 NekoGloop ofc i added other things as well.
23:05 NekoGloop cloud spawning, treasure chest spawning, etc.
23:07 NekoGloop VanessaE's code makes me feel like I'm gonna break something
23:07 VanessaE how's that>
23:07 VanessaE ?
23:08 NekoGloop by just not putting something neccessary
23:08 VanessaE heh. and I thought my code is shit compared to some peoples' :-)
23:08 NekoGloop that's why i feel like I'm gonna break something ;?
23:08 VanessaE <NekoGloop> Some Exception, you are a heartbreaker.
23:09 NekoGloop :/*
23:09 NekoGloop VanessaE: nope.
23:09 NekoGloop Some Exception: <insert unhelpful error message here>
23:09 VanessaE lol
23:10 NekoGloop also, i dont like how we lose buckets when makin stuff
23:10 VanessaE replacements = {{ "replace this", "with this" }}
23:10 VanessaE in your crafting recipe.
23:10 NekoGloop also magically gaining buckets when makin things
23:10 NekoGloop VanessaE: I know that.
23:10 VanessaE ok
23:14 Naked make some sort of bucket durability
23:15 Octupus vanessa
23:15 Octupus can u help me make a easy thing with your pipe mod
23:15 Naked wood to stone(very resistant) to steel
23:15 NekoGloop you have no fury, just nakedness?
23:17 NekoGloop btw: VanessaE, why did you use a bucket for the white-darkgrey anyway?
23:18 VanessaE because white paint made more sense to me than white "dye", and paint is pretty much always supplied in a bucket or can.
23:18 VanessaE so I stuck with that
23:18 VanessaE Octupus: like what
23:18 NekoGloop then use vessel's can-like-things
23:19 Octupus idk
23:19 Octupus anythign easy
23:19 VanessaE that's a heavy-duty steel bottle, it's meant for carrying dangerous fluids
23:20 VanessaE or cryo stuff
23:20 VanessaE whatever
23:20 NekoGloop still a can :3
23:20 Octupus so what the easiest thing u can make with pipes
23:21 VanessaE why you hating on buckets anyway?
23:21 VanessaE Octupus: right now they're little more than decorative, they don't do anything yet, so it's whatever you want them to look like
23:21 Octupus ohhhh
23:22 VanessaE they might be useful as some kind of railings though
23:22 Octupus ok
23:22 VanessaE like if you wanted to build a fence around a property but do so with something other than wood.
23:22 NekoGloop VanessaE: because i feel like it
23:22 NekoGloop and vessels things need uses
23:22 VanessaE heh
23:22 LAD octu i think u want to use the technic pipes
23:23 NekoGloop anyway, I wonder what i just broke.
23:24 NekoGloop lol?
23:24 VanessaE LAD: technic pipes = my pneumatic tubes
23:24 LAD XD
23:24 LAD i know
23:24 NekoGloop modding template gives the player an empty bottle when a bucket is needed
23:24 NekoGloop wtf?
23:24 LAD ther mods that depend on etch others mods
23:25 NekoGloop technically pipeworks can be used on its own
23:25 NekoGloop its just useless then though
23:25 NekoGloop may even be currently useless even with technic
23:26 NekoGloop VanessaE: modding template gives the player an empty bottle when a bucket is needed
23:26 VanessaE an error.
23:26 VanessaE fix it :-)
23:26 NekoGloop yeah, i fixed it
23:26 NekoGloop I'm tellin you
23:26 NekoGloop XD
23:26 NekoGloop oopsie
23:27 NekoGloop forgot to wipe flowers from unifieddyes depends
23:27 VanessaE brb
23:28 NekoGloop oopsie (again)
23:28 NekoGloop i killed my mapgen :P
23:29 NekoGloop VanessaE: wool_mediumgrey.png is unable to be found?
23:29 NekoGloop appears to not be there/
23:33 NekoGloop there is no way I am the first person to realise the errors in the modding template...
23:33 VanessaE it's probably there and named wrong - I thought I fixed that ages ago
23:34 NekoGloop wool_grey
23:34 NekoGloop you're right
23:34 VanessaE wool_darkgrey.png
23:34 NekoGloop also, modding template itself has an error.
23:34 VanessaE it's there.
23:34 VanessaE wool_grey.png
23:34 VanessaE wool_lightgrey.png
23:34 VanessaE they're all there.
23:34 NekoGloop VanessaE: but it want wool_mediumgrey.png
23:34 VanessaE ohhh
23:35 VanessaE sigh
23:35 VanessaE why has no one told me this stuff before?
23:35 NekoGloop because noone used it
23:35 NekoGloop same thing as with junglegrass issue in homedecor, remember that?
23:35 Octupus bye
23:35 VanessaE which issue?
23:36 NekoGloop with "default:junglegrass 2"
23:36 NekoGloop invalid furnace recipe, remembeR?
23:36 VanessaE ?
23:36 VanessaE oh yeah
23:36 NekoGloop plastic sheeting just never smelted
23:36 VanessaE I fixed that ages ago
23:36 NekoGloop anyway, the issue in modtemplate
23:36 NekoGloop VanessaE: because i found it
23:36 VanessaE in fact, it's different now btw
23:37 NekoGloop nodedesc = "Black "..colored_block_description needs to be added before the black variation is created.
23:37 VanessaE you must craft junglegrass, dry shrubs, or leaves into "unprocessed plastic" and then smelt that to get the sheeting
23:37 NekoGloop otherwise the black variation gets "White "..colored_block_description
23:37 NekoGloop I suggest fixing this
23:38 VanessaE I'll fix it later, remind me tomorrow when I can think more clearly
23:38 NekoGloop have a salt texture?
23:39 VanessaE eh?
23:39 NekoGloop you heard me right ^^
23:39 NekoGloop salt
23:39 VanessaE salt as in sodium chloride?
23:39 VanessaE er
23:39 NekoGloop what other salt is there?
23:39 NekoGloop :P
23:39 VanessaE best I can suggest is the one I use for titanium dioxide, or the one that's used in nature pack for sugar :-)
23:39 VanessaE they all look the same anyway
23:39 VanessaE well there's also potassium chloride :)
23:40 NekoGloop heh
23:40 Basstard` What about pyrite?
23:40 VanessaE what about it?
23:40 Basstard` Is it in?
23:40 VanessaE nope. Doesn't exist in the game in any mod I know if
23:40 VanessaE of*
23:41 VanessaE (I have a few chunks of it in a little baggie here, so if someone makes it I can support it in HDX)
23:41 Basstard` Get to it then!
23:41 VanessaE no. :-)
23:41 Basstard` No, not HDX, ultra extra super low pixels.
23:41 VanessaE that's something that belongs in moreores anyway. bug calinou :-)
23:42 Basstard` Will do
23:42 NekoGloop gloopores = ores that dont exist
23:42 NekoGloop moreores = ores that do exist
23:42 NekoGloop default = i have no fucking idea
23:42 NekoGloop i believe that sums it up
23:42 VanessaE heh
23:43 VanessaE well default only has iron and coal and mese, I'd say it's pretty obvious which ones exist and which don't :-)
23:46 NekoGloop need boots? http://ompldr.org/vZm9nNg
23:47 VanessaE heh
23:47 VanessaE those are some serious clodhoppers :-)
23:47 NekoGloop XD
23:48 NekoGloop must be quite comfy, being 100% wool
23:48 VanessaE heh
23:48 VanessaE I have a pair with fur lining and suede outsides. very comfy
23:49 NekoGloop hehe
23:49 * VanessaE offers you some homemade chicken-vegetable stew - yuuummmmmm
23:50 * VanessaE is a culinary genius
23:50 VanessaE ;)
23:50 * NekoGloop declines
23:50 NekoGloop i just ate, thank you
23:50 Basstard` NekoGloop: Any cog loop?
23:50 VanessaE aw :(
23:51 VanessaE evening M13.
23:51 M13 hello
23:51 M13 how are you
23:51 NekoGloop cog loop? wuzzat?
23:51 VanessaE not bad
23:51 M13 you know the towntest mod?
23:51 M13 with ur houses
23:51 Basstard` NekoGloop: "Any cog loop". Let's see how long it'll take for you to figure it out.
23:51 VanessaE yup, I saw the post. I'm glad he used them :-)
23:52 M13 is ur manshion on that
23:52 NekoGloop the... what...
23:52 M13 is ur mansion on that*
23:52 VanessaE I think that's house #2, M13.
23:52 M13 ok
23:52 M13 cool
23:52 M13 I put it on my server
23:52 * VanessaE wonders if M13 = madchicken today or keegan :-)
23:52 VanessaE thanks :-)
23:52 M13 ots madchicken lolz
23:53 VanessaE you should see the one I built on redcrab.suret.net:30401
23:53 VanessaE puts those two to shame :-)
23:53 M13 i saw that one
23:53 M13 uts awesome]
23:53 VanessaE thanks :-)
23:53 M13 Awesome*
23:53 M13 umm
23:53 M13
23:53 M13 do you know what Edubuntu is?
23:54 VanessaE a version of Ubuntu aimed at schools
23:54 VanessaE based on Gnome, has a bunch of educational software pre-loaded I think
23:54 M13 yea my school uses it
23:54 VanessaE oh nice
23:54 M13 Its awesome and that is y i like my school
23:54 VanessaE good to see schools looking at Linux now
23:55 M13 its easier than windows
23:55 M13 that is y my school uses it (And its Free)
23:55 Basstard` VanessaE: GNU!
23:55 M13 I installed it
23:55 M13 on my computer
23:56 VanessaE that's an interesting change isn't it? Linux being easier to use than windows now :-)
23:56 M13 My teacher gave me 12.04 because he dont like it
23:56 M13 :D
23:56 M13 It is easier
23:56 M13 >:)
23:56 M13 >:-)
23:56 VanessaE heh
23:56 M13 for me Hahahaha
23:57 VanessaE well same here actually
23:57 VanessaE in Windows, I feel so lost
23:57 M13 me to
23:57 VanessaE it's like I'm using an alien's computer or something
23:57 M13 i cant open the web browser
23:57 M13 :P
23:58 NekoGloop open the web browser in windows: double click the blue E
23:59 M13 Ooooo....
23:59 M13 ok idk
23:59 VanessaE NekoGloop: also knows as, "How to get your machine compromised in short order :-)