Time Nick Message
00:00 NekoGloop OldCoder: sadly, no.
00:00 OldCoder I am trying
00:00 NekoGloop which is why i think using git so predominantly is unwise.
00:00 OldCoder It has its place
00:00 NekoGloop because if something needs to be done... it never gets done.
00:01 OldCoder I don't follow; his commit isn't in his sources
00:01 OldCoder Looking further
00:01 NekoGloop i noticed.
00:02 OldCoder Notice what?
00:02 NekoGloop that his commit isnt in the code.
00:02 OldCoder ??
00:02 OldCoder Where is it, then?
00:02 NekoGloop here: https://github.com/jordan4ibanez/minetest/commit/37d6c3a2f19854caf6dfeb352cb9f6c50bb52757
00:02 OldCoder I know that
00:03 OldCoder I mean, if it is not commited, what is the commit?
00:03 NekoGloop i have no idea.
00:03 OldCoder My point is
00:03 NekoGloop github is shitty.
00:03 OldCoder I don't know that that one page
00:03 OldCoder will give you what you want
00:03 Octupus Github is hard
00:03 OldCoder I'll need to talk to him
00:03 NekoGloop which is why i distaste usage of github.
00:03 NekoGloop T_A_N_K_
00:04 OldCoder NekoGloop, I'll build and merge and so on
00:04 OldCoder But I think I need to speak with him first
00:04 T_A_N_K_ yes?
00:04 OldCoder Hi!
00:04 NekoGloop here he is.
00:04 OldCoder T_A_N_K_, is that one commit...
00:04 T_A_N_K_ yes
00:04 OldCoder all that NekoGloop needs to get the animation thing?
00:04 OldCoder yes?
00:04 OldCoder Why isn't it in the code when I clone? Is there a different branch?
00:05 Octupus Can u do me a favor
00:05 OldCoder Who?
00:05 T_A_N_K_ that's only a commit it's not pushed yet, therefore not in the actual game
00:05 NekoGloop better yet, why isnt it a pull request against minetest proper?
00:05 OldCoder T_A_N_K_, is there a way for me to get that as a diff?
00:05 T_A_N_K_ just copy the numbers lol
00:06 NekoGloop T_A_N_K_: i suggested that already...
00:06 OldCoder T_A_N_K_, are you able to answer?
00:06 NekoGloop OldCoder: he did.
00:06 NekoGloop just copy the numbers.
00:07 NekoGloop It's not like he changed the code at all, just what the code recieves...
00:07 OldCoder NekoGloop, I must decline. If nobody here can answer I will continue to Google.
00:07 NekoGloop well i guess no one will make a windows build.
00:08 OldCoder I will
00:08 OldCoder I just want a diff
00:08 NekoGloop which you -cant- get.
00:08 OldCoder I can in fact get it
00:08 OldCoder There are *two* tools in git for this purpose
00:08 T_A_N_K_ herei s the diff https://github.com/jordan4ibanez/minetest/commit/37d6c3a2f19854caf6dfeb352cb9f6c50bb52757
00:08 OldCoder Reviewing
00:09 OldCoder That is not a diff
00:09 OldCoder I need a standard patch file
00:09 OldCoder One that can be applied using patch -pNUMBER
00:09 OldCoder I will continue to Google
00:09 OldCoder Thank you
00:09 OldCoder You can produce it I think
00:09 NekoGloop point proven.
00:09 OldCoder There are multiple tools for this purpose
00:10 NekoGloop I'm not gonna get a windows build of this.
00:10 Octupus OldCoder: Seems as if mod didnt update
00:10 NekoGloop the most stubborn people in the world, butting heads.
00:10 NekoGloop that's all that's happening here.
00:14 OldCoder Octupus, checking to see why not
00:15 OldCoder Octupus, I most likely forgot to run one command. This will be corrected now.
00:15 Octupus Ok thanks again
00:16 babyface1031 ty
00:17 NekoGloop T_A_N_K_: how hard would it be to just make a diff patch?
00:17 T_A_N_K_ i don't know
00:17 OldCoder NekoGloop, I am not well and there are other issues. I genuinely need the diff. Also need to know how to do it in general.
00:17 OldCoder Octupus, babyface1031 try now
00:17 babyface1031 ok
00:18 Octupus Gracias
00:18 OldCoder y w
00:18 OldCoder But see if it works before Gracias
00:18 NekoGloop it wouldnt take that long to simply change the numbers in the source to reflect tank's changes.
00:18 babyface1031 works:D
00:19 Octupus :)
00:20 NekoGloop well I'm disappointed now.
00:21 NekoGloop OldCoder is off on a wild goose chase through google, T_A_N_K is not helping, sfan is requiring something that i dont know how to get, and I really want this patch. ;_;
00:21 OldCoder NekoGloop, I am doing what I can
00:21 OldCoder Octupus, babyface1031 glad to hear it
00:22 OldCoder NekoGloop, can he just give me the file?
00:22 NekoGloop It would be faster to modify the source code.
00:22 JangoFett154 VanessaE or redcrab or cactuzPL online?
00:22 Doc22 hey does anyone want to play on a server
00:22 Doc22 with me
00:22 Doc22 ill host
00:22 OldCoder Doc22, there are lots of servers
00:22 Doc22 yeah
00:22 OldCoder You can play with Octupus and babyface1031 here
00:22 Doc22 but probably not with the mods I want
00:22 Doc22 ok
00:22 OldCoder What is your world like?
00:22 OldCoder Have one yet?
00:22 Doc22 im making a new one
00:22 OldCoder Of course
00:22 Doc22 no i dont have one
00:22 OldCoder All right
00:23 OldCoder NekoGloop, can he just give me the file?
00:23 OldCoder I need to rest soon
00:23 Doc22 i just have a list of mods i will use
00:23 OldCoder Doc22, which are?
00:23 Doc22 vines and ropes
00:23 Doc22 bags
00:23 Doc22 mob framework
00:23 OldCoder For vines I need to speak with cornernote
00:23 OldCoder Doc22, review this:
00:23 OldCoder http://minetest.org/
00:23 OldCoder Those are my mods and worlds
00:23 Doc22 ok
00:23 Doc22 thanks
00:23 OldCoder If you wish you can try one of them
00:23 OldCoder One of the worlds is open
00:23 Doc22 ok
00:23 OldCoder No registration required
00:23 Doc22 awesome
00:23 OldCoder OpenMine
00:23 OldCoder Just go play
00:24 Doc22 ok
00:24 OldCoder NekoGloop, I need to lie down for about 5 minutes. Just get him to give me the file. That should be easy.
00:24 Doc22 i just kinda want mods
00:25 NekoGloop wait...
00:25 Doc22 oh
00:25 Doc22 your server has mods...
00:25 Doc22 lol
00:25 * OldCoder is resting
00:25 NekoGloop why would the code detailed in T_A_N_K_'s patch be incompatible with current git?
00:26 OldCoder Who said it was incompatible at all?
00:26 * OldCoder is resting briefly
00:26 Doc22 OldCoder you should add links to the mods on the list
00:26 OldCoder get me the file, which is trivial
00:26 Doc22 just a suggestion
00:26 OldCoder Doc22, I will provide the source code
00:26 OldCoder It is already planned
00:26 Doc22 ok
00:26 Doc22 awesome
00:26 * OldCoder is resting briefly
00:26 * Doc22 is eating tater tots
00:27 OldCoder NekoGloop, ask him for the file; this takes like 5 seconds toget
00:27 OldCoder *to get
00:27 * Octupus thinks it's a good idea coder takes a break
00:27 NekoGloop OldCoder: I'm modifing the git version of minetest's camera.cpp to reflect his changes.
00:29 Octupus Leave the man alone he needs a rest neko
00:30 NekoGloop http://ompldr.org/vZzR4NQ
00:31 OldCoder Back
00:31 OldCoder R
00:31 NekoGloop that goes in the src folder.
00:31 OldCoder Link is not loading
00:31 OldCoder Hold on
00:32 OldCoder It isn't being tired, exactly Octupus. My blog explains it a bit.
00:32 OldCoder NekoGloop, wait
00:32 Octupus Ok
00:32 OldCoder NekoGloop, I will attempt a diff now
00:33 NekoGloop is it really this hard to copy+paste the source and put this in there...?
00:33 OldCoder NekoGloop, there are many many differenes
00:33 OldCoder differences
00:33 OldCoder The files are not compatible
00:33 OldCoder Please find me a git person
00:33 NekoGloop between what?
00:33 OldCoder What you posted
00:33 OldCoder and the standard version
00:33 NekoGloop how?
00:33 OldCoder Far more than the changes in the commit
00:33 NekoGloop there are only 6 lines of code changed.
00:34 OldCoder That is my point
00:34 OldCoder What you sent
00:34 NekoGloop I only changed 6 lines of code.
00:34 OldCoder Is not compatible
00:34 OldCoder I know
00:34 OldCoder That is my point
00:34 OldCoder What you sent
00:34 OldCoder Is not compatible
00:34 OldCoder I need to speak with a git person
00:34 OldCoder
00:34 NekoGloop Good luck.
00:35 NekoGloop While i go cry in a corner.
00:35 Octupus Ask celeron55 he is great with hit
00:35 Octupus *git
00:35 OldCoder You know, if he would just push his change
00:35 NekoGloop but he wont make a diff for a patch.
00:35 OldCoder the command gif log -p
00:35 OldCoder will give the diff
00:35 NekoGloop OldCoder: dont tell me that, tell that to T_A_N_K_
00:36 OldCoder I have spent too much time on this; I will spend more time and build for you
00:36 OldCoder and package and add the preloaded cache
00:36 OldCoder and everything
00:36 OldCoder but get me the diff. or a git person.
00:36 OldCoder Done
00:36 OldCoder
00:37 OldCoder NekoGloop, that sounded too impatient. I am sorry.
00:37 OldCoder But you don't quite understand and there is no point in trying to make you understand.
00:37 NekoGloop We're both being fed up with each other's incapability.
00:37 OldCoder The changes you made
00:37 OldCoder are buried in other changes he made
00:37 OldCoder The file you posted is useless
00:38 NekoGloop OldCoder: not possible.
00:38 OldCoder I am looking at it right now
00:38 OldCoder In front of me
00:38 NekoGloop I changed minetest-c55 source with T_A_N_K_'s patch.
00:38 OldCoder I need the diff. Or a git person. This part of the discussion is over.
00:38 Octupus If coder says its useless then it is
00:38 NekoGloop I only changed those 6 lines from T_A_N_K_'s patch.
00:38 NekoGloop Octupus: But it isnt.
00:38 Octupus He has had more experience in code
00:38 NekoGloop Octupus: But it isnt.
00:39 OldCoder NekoGloop, I believe you
00:39 Octupus Alright no1 listens to me :/
00:39 NekoGloop hm...
00:39 OldCoder Octupus, of course people do
00:39 Octupus No1 does
00:40 Octupus They are try to break me down
00:40 OldCoder ?
00:40 OldCoder No
00:40 Octupus Except for u and lad and face
00:40 OldCoder more will listen
00:40 Octupus And zilla
00:40 OldCoder The numbers are growing :-)
00:40 OldCoder RBA does
00:40 Octupus No
00:41 OldCoder All right
00:41 * Octupus takes a break
00:41 NekoGloop OldCoder: http://ompldr.org/vZzR4OQ build this.
00:42 NekoGloop I am capable of almost everything. Excluding building C++ source code.
00:42 OldCoder R
00:44 OldCoder That gives me the patch
00:44 NekoGloop The patched source.
00:44 * Doc22 is done eating tater tots
00:44 Doc22 buuuuurp
00:44 OldCoder I only needed the patch
00:44 OldCoder Now I have it
00:44 NekoGloop Now, you have the source to build.
00:44 * Octupus is back
00:44 Octupus Hi LAD
00:44 OldCoder Octupus, hi
00:44 LAD hi Octu
00:44 NekoGloop Simply unzip, add the dll's that are needed, and compile.
00:45 Doc22 Oldcoder
00:45 OldCoder NekoGloop, I am working now
00:45 OldCoder Doc22
00:45 LAD hmm
00:45 Doc22 i dont really feel like manually installing all those mods
00:45 Doc22 unless there is a pack
00:45 OldCoder Doc22, I don't understand
00:45 OldCoder Those are all on the server side
00:45 OldCoder Just go and play
00:45 Doc22 oh so no client config required?
00:45 OldCoder Nope
00:45 Doc22 yay
00:45 OldCoder We recommend
00:45 NekoGloop at this point... I think I'll just stick with the crap that is in minetest proper
00:45 LAD hey Octu what was that 1 IRC thing that me u and keegan used to be in??
00:45 OldCoder turn off texture atlas
00:46 Doc22 I didnt understand
00:46 Doc22 ok
00:46 OldCoder NekoGloop, I am proceeding
00:46 NekoGloop Doc22: that is a minecrap limitation.
00:46 Doc22 XD
00:46 Doc22 i love it when people call it that
00:47 NekoGloop OldCoder: ping me when it's done compiling.
00:47 OldCoder k
00:47 LAD nmv i found what it was cald
00:48 Octupus Which 1
00:48 LAD TG
00:48 Octupus OOOOOO yea
00:48 LAD way back when
00:48 Octupus SHUSH
00:48 LAD XD
00:48 LAD join
00:48 LAD do u remeber the thingy
00:48 Octupus (o)(o)
00:48 LAD what it was calls
00:48 Octupus Yes
00:48 Doc22 it says empty passwords are dissalowed
00:48 Doc22 back to reading
00:48 LAD capitle T and G
00:49 Doc22 thanks
00:49 Doc22 so just TG
00:49 Doc22 awesome
00:49 Doc22 thanks LAD
00:49 LAD lol what
00:49 Doc22 for the passwword
00:49 Octupus Your in the wrong 1 doc Lolz
00:49 Doc22 TG
00:49 Doc22 ???
00:50 Doc22 lolz
00:50 LAD oh lol no
00:50 LAD i was talking to Octupus
00:50 Octupus XD
00:50 Doc22 lol
00:50 Doc22 hmmm
00:50 LAD srry for comfusion
00:50 Doc22 only 1%loaded
00:50 Doc22 its fine
00:50 Doc22 its my fault really
00:50 Doc22 :P
00:50 Doc22 3%
00:50 Doc22 ..
00:51 Doc22 im working on a game similar to minetest
00:51 Doc22 its very early in development
00:51 Doc22 but it has a bright future
00:52 Octupus O cool
00:52 Doc22 with the increasing popularity in voxel based games
00:52 Doc22 I'm taking more of an mmo
00:52 Doc22 direction
00:53 Doc22 only 7% loaded...
00:53 Doc22 D:
00:54 Doc22 once it downloads it once it doesnt have to do it ever again right
00:55 LAD OldCoder when is your birthday??
00:55 Doc22 ???
00:55 LAD XD
00:55 LAD i know random
00:55 OldCoder Doc22, Yes
00:55 Doc22 :)
00:55 OldCoder LAD, see me later
00:55 OldCoder Compiling MT ATM
00:55 Doc22 kewl
00:55 OldCoder MTATM
00:55 OldCoder Heh
00:55 NekoGloop lol
00:55 Doc22 minetest ATM??
00:55 LAD but it take like 10 secs to type it down
00:55 NekoGloop I may finally be able to beat Mari0
00:55 Octupus It's for something special coder
00:56 LAD shhhsh
00:56 Doc22 hmmm
00:56 LAD im cold
00:56 LAD sweter come here
00:56 Doc22 wait so minetest is made in C++ right
00:56 OldCoder Yes
00:56 LAD yea
00:56 Doc22 nice
00:56 Octupus XD
00:56 LAD hmm
00:56 Doc22 i might be able to help
00:56 Doc22 if you want
00:56 Doc22 I know about terrain gen
00:56 Doc22 and such
00:56 OldCoder Doc22, that is good
00:57 OldCoder People will appreciate that
00:57 Doc22 and C++ is the first lang i learned
00:57 Doc22 thx
00:57 OldCoder You will be very welcome
00:57 Doc22 so I can just contribute to the github?
00:57 Doc22 or what
00:57 OldCoder NekoGloop, I am compiling a WinMT with C55 stuff, my stuff, T_A_N_K stuff
00:57 OldCoder Doc22, you'd need to contribute to one of the downstreams
00:57 Doc22 ok
00:57 OldCoder That could be me or thexyz for example
00:57 OldCoder Then things get pushed upstream
00:57 Doc22 ok
00:58 OldCoder NekoGloop, Is *that* satisfactory?
00:58 Doc22 ill work on it sometimes if I have time
00:58 OldCoder Doc22, try out my worlds
00:58 OldCoder Have fun
00:58 NekoGloop OldCoder: yes.
00:58 Doc22 yes its downloading
00:58 Doc22 85%
00:58 NekoGloop i dont remember mario being this retardedly hard.
00:58 OldCoder Doc22, Use my prebuilt Windows client and you don't need to wait for media
00:58 OldCoder Assuming you use Windows
00:59 OldCoder NekoGloop, it is coming along. This build will have everything but LevelDB.
00:59 Doc22 sure beats going through the list "hmm... Let's see. Bobcraft. Download. Copy. Next on the list?
00:59 OldCoder Anaglyphic, Vanessa's filters patch, Jordach apple trees, etc.
00:59 Doc22 I spawned on a random island
00:59 Doc22 with a 1 on it
00:59 OldCoder Doc22, Skyblock?
00:59 Doc22 and a red flower
00:59 Doc22 yes
00:59 LAD coder were u bron 1960??
00:59 OldCoder Doc22, it is a special game
01:00 LAD born*
01:00 OldCoder LAD, No
01:00 OldCoder Why did you guess that?
01:00 Doc22 what do I do
01:00 LAD i did some math
01:00 LAD was it close
01:00 LAD most likely did the math wrong
01:00 OldCoder Doc22, That one is special. cornernote can explain it. Hold on and I will look for the thread.
01:00 OldCoder LAD, hold on a bit
01:00 Doc22 ok
01:00 LAD ok ok
01:01 Doc22 ill just google "minetest skyblock server"
01:01 Doc22 found a vid
01:01 OldCoder https://sites.google.com/site/cornernote/minetest/sky-block
01:01 OldCoder Doc22, see that
01:01 Doc22 watching... NOW
01:01 Doc22 k
01:02 Doc22 sooo laggy
01:03 NekoGloop minetest == lag
01:03 Doc22 im making a sapling
01:03 NekoGloop minecraft == crash
01:03 Doc22 but it doesnt craft it when I click
01:03 Doc22 and I can't build or destroy
01:03 OldCoder minecrash?
01:03 Doc22 what is wrong
01:04 OldCoder Doc22, We need to grant you interact
01:04 Doc22 oh
01:04 Doc22 can you do that?
01:04 OldCoder OpenMine is the only open world
01:04 OldCoder Yes
01:04 NekoGloop minecrash... good one.
01:04 OldCoder I run the worlds
01:04 Doc22 ok
01:04 OldCoder Doc22, are you a lava griefer bad person?
01:04 OldCoder :-)
01:04 Doc22 tell me when I have interact
01:04 Doc22 no im not
01:04 OldCoder Fine
01:04 Doc22 im a builder
01:04 OldCoder Hold on
01:04 Doc22 a creater
01:04 OldCoder What is your nick in the game?
01:04 Doc22 creator
01:04 Doc22 im Doc
01:05 OldCoder Skyblock is special; want to build here? Or one of the others?
01:05 OldCoder it's fine either way
01:05 OldCoder Hold on
01:05 Doc22 i like this one
01:05 OldCoder Coming then
01:05 Doc22 but can you grand it for all of them
01:05 Doc22 so if I want to i can try one
01:05 Doc22 another
01:05 OldCoder Probably
01:05 OldCoder All
01:05 Doc22 awesome
01:05 OldCoder Maybe tomorrow
01:05 Doc22 ok
01:05 OldCoder If you don't lava this one :-)
01:05 Doc22 yeah lol
01:05 OldCoder I need to write a script
01:06 OldCoder To do that
01:06 OldCoder The grant I mean
01:06 Doc22 just what I was thinking
01:06 Doc22 if i dont lava it
01:06 Doc22 lol
01:06 OldCoder You have interact
01:06 Doc22 yeah you could make a special command?
01:06 OldCoder Have fun
01:06 Doc22 thanks
01:06 OldCoder Yes
01:06 OldCoder Changed the time
01:06 NekoGloop may i inquire as to the progress of the build.
01:06 OldCoder So you can look around
01:06 NekoGloop ?*
01:06 OldCoder NekoGloop, Yes
01:06 OldCoder If you wish you may inquire
01:06 Doc22 thanks for time change
01:06 OldCoder k
01:07 NekoGloop ok. I inquire to the progress of the build. :-)
01:07 OldCoder Checking
01:07 OldCoder Just finished core
01:07 OldCoder Now the packaging
01:07 OldCoder This is manual
01:10 T_A_N_K_ peace
01:10 Doc22 wats mese for
01:11 NekoGloop Doc22: pickaxes
01:11 Doc22 ??
01:12 Doc22 I just placed it...
01:12 Doc22 did I mess it up
01:12 NekoGloop mess what up? the skyblock? no
01:12 NekoGloop just grab a stone pickaxe and dig it back up
01:12 Doc22 ok
01:13 Doc22 am i allowed to go to the other skyblocks I see
01:13 Doc22 with the chests
01:13 NekoGloop yes, but you are not allowed to dig or place there
01:13 NekoGloop do not take from the chests either.
01:13 Doc22 ok
01:13 Doc22 im not a griefer/lava person
01:13 Doc22 :)
01:14 OldCoder NekoGloop, I am working
01:14 OldCoder NekoGloop, testing new package
01:14 NekoGloop um... i know this...? :P
01:14 NekoGloop oh ok :3
01:14 OldCoder It is to be polite kitty
01:15 Doc22 oops
01:15 OldCoder I will appreciate hearing the new client works
01:15 Doc22 destroyed lava source
01:15 OldCoder It is for everybody
01:15 OldCoder Do I need to revert Skyblock?
01:15 Doc22 idk
01:15 OldCoder NekoGloop, ^
01:15 Doc22 did I need the lava block
01:16 NekoGloop no
01:16 Doc22 ok good
01:16 NekoGloop if you see a 2x2 block of lava, take a bucket and grab one.
01:16 NekoGloop no harm will be done.
01:17 Doc22 I just destroyed the block...
01:17 NekoGloop you can also dig your number block.
01:17 Doc22 ok
01:17 NekoGloop which will reset you
01:18 OldCoder NekoGloop, the new client says serialization error unsupported NodeBox version server is running different and message ends
01:18 cornernote forum mod - can this be moved to Games thread? -- http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1241
01:19 OldCoder They changed something incompatible
01:19 NekoGloop sounds like a problem with your gamemode
01:19 OldCoder cornernote, can you comment on the above?
01:19 OldCoder NekoGloop, can you comment further?
01:19 NekoGloop try using default minetest_game
01:19 NekoGloop see if it still errors.
01:19 cornernote sec, reading
01:20 OldCoder Tried with minimal; that works
01:20 cornernote OC, whats the question ?
01:20 OldCoder <OldCoder> NekoGloop, the new client says serialization error unsupported NodeBox version server is running different and message ends
01:20 OldCoder ?
01:20 OldCoder I built a new client
01:20 OldCoder For Windows
01:20 NekoGloop OldCoder: hm...
01:20 cornernote no idea, never seen that before
01:20 NekoGloop i believe that means that nodeboxes took a crap.
01:21 OldCoder Checking changes
01:21 Octupus What turns off chat on mt
01:21 NekoGloop F2
01:21 Octupus Thanks
01:22 OldCoder NekoGloop, Right now the best I can do is apply that patch to my MT version
01:22 OldCoder C55 version has broken something
01:22 NekoGloop hm..
01:22 NekoGloop no, because others have run it successfully
01:22 OldCoder Against my worlds?
01:22 OldCoder It's incompatible with the mods
01:22 OldCoder Hold on
01:24 OldCoder Wait; I have an idea
01:25 OldCoder NekoGloop, I know what to try but two people need to talk to me about other matters. I will continue in about half an hour.
01:36 OldCoder
01:36 OldCoder All the worlds are going down briefly. This may happen twice.
01:36 OldCoder Sorry.
01:36 OldCoder Doc22, you will lose connect. Sorry.
01:36 Doc22 its ok
01:37 NekoGloop OldCoder: See if you can get the build to work. if not, try building it without your patches, and just the animation change.
01:38 NekoGloop As for me, I'm off to bed.
01:39 babyface1031 @OldCoder did you shut the server down?
01:39 OldCoder See above
01:39 OldCoder <OldCoder> All the worlds are going down briefly. This may happen twice.
01:39 OldCoder <OldCoder> Sorry.
01:40 babyface1031 oh sorry didnt see that
01:40 OldCoder k
01:40 Doc22 how long will it take
01:40 OldCoder Not long
01:40 Doc22 k
01:40 OldCoder But may need to be twice
01:40 Doc22 kk
01:40 Doc22 I know that feeling of restarting things 20 bazillion times...
01:40 OldCoder Oh yes
01:40 OldCoder Right now I am waiting for just 2 of the worlds to finish shutting down
01:41 Doc22 kk
01:41 Doc22 oldcoder
01:41 OldCoder Doc22
01:41 Doc22 does minetest have an auto updater
01:41 Doc22 or do you just have to download the next build
01:41 OldCoder Explain
01:42 OldCoder I build it myself
01:42 Doc22 like when a new build comes out
01:42 OldCoder I am that
01:42 OldCoder I make the builds
01:42 OldCoder That is why
01:42 Doc22 do the clients automatically download it
01:42 OldCoder No
01:42 Doc22 ok
01:42 OldCoder I am making a client now
01:42 OldCoder For NekoGloop
01:42 Doc22 awesome
01:42 OldCoder but old clients usually work
01:42 OldCoder Tonight they did not
01:42 Doc22 what will be different
01:42 Doc22 hmm
01:42 Doc22 im using 0.4.3
01:42 OldCoder This version has more features
01:42 Doc22 and it's working fine
01:42 OldCoder Still 0.4.3
01:42 Doc22 ok
01:42 OldCoder This version has more features
01:43 Doc22 what is it
01:43 OldCoder He really wanted it
01:43 OldCoder Busy ATM
01:43 OldCoder sorry
01:43 Doc22 lol
01:43 Doc22 u fast typer
01:43 * OldCoder shrugs
01:43 Doc22 its easy to tell you program
01:43 Doc22 a lot
01:43 Doc22 lol
01:43 Doc22 what is different about you
01:43 Doc22 from other devs
01:44 Doc22 is that you take time to answer teensy little questions from some random guy
01:44 Doc22 on an irc
01:44 Doc22 that means something
01:46 OldCoder Hmm?
01:46 OldCoder Hell
01:46 Doc22 lol
01:46 OldCoder I am in a number of things right now
01:46 OldCoder But focusing on fixing something here
01:46 Doc22 lol i know that feeling bro
01:47 OldCoder Doc22, pick a few more worlds
01:47 Doc22 ok
01:47 OldCoder Wait
01:47 OldCoder Sorry
01:47 OldCoder I can't patch you until you've accessed
01:47 OldCoder Just a minute
01:47 Doc22 ok
01:49 Doc22 oldcoder which cpp files in minetest manage the world
01:49 Doc22 and how do you do thi
01:49 OldCoder All the worlds are coming up
01:49 Doc22 this
01:49 Doc22 all right
01:49 OldCoder We will go over the code with you
01:49 OldCoder Doc22, join here:
01:49 OldCoder #minetest-dev
01:49 Doc22 ok
01:49 OldCoder Nobody there ATM
01:49 OldCoder But come lurk in the core dev room
01:50 Doc22 lol ok
01:50 OldCoder That is where the C++ questions are answered
01:50 OldCoder Everybody please visit worlds
01:50 OldCoder Do they still work?
01:50 Doc22 ok one sec
01:50 Doc22 it says invalid password
01:51 Doc22 WHAT IS THE PASSWORD!
01:51 Doc22 (french accent)
01:52 Doc22 hrmmmm
01:52 OldCoder Doc22, password is whatever you typed the first time
01:52 Doc22 I tried that
01:52 Doc22 it was RT
01:52 Doc22 but now it doesnt work
01:52 OldCoder I can delete you
01:52 OldCoder Exit
01:52 OldCoder Hold on
01:52 Doc22 maybe it was TR
01:52 OldCoder Try
01:53 OldCoder And now I *must* delete you
01:53 Doc22 nope
01:53 OldCoder because pass is private
01:53 Doc22 delete away
01:53 OldCoder Use a better one
01:53 Doc22 lol
01:53 OldCoder hold on
01:53 Doc22 i didnt know that it was for me
01:53 OldCoder It is permanent
01:53 OldCoder Wait
01:53 Doc22 i thought it was public password
01:53 Doc22 or something
01:53 OldCoder Nope
01:53 OldCoder You
01:53 Doc22 that everyone has to
01:53 Doc22 lol all cleared up
01:54 Doc22 wait so did you reset me
01:54 OldCoder Not yet
01:54 Doc22 ok
01:54 OldCoder It takes 3 to 5 minutes
01:54 OldCoder to shut down Skyblock
01:54 Doc22 okey dokey
01:54 Octupus I'm bored
01:54 Doc22 lol
01:54 OldCoder play on your world
01:54 Octupus Coder u can go to server
01:54 OldCoder tell me if it works
01:54 OldCoder ?
01:55 Octupus And put in a commas to change a password
01:55 OldCoder k
01:55 OldCoder I know
01:55 OldCoder but I think I need to shut down first
01:55 OldCoder this world takes a long time to shut down
01:55 Doc22 and about learning how the world management works
01:55 Doc22 I know java
01:55 OldCoder k
01:55 Doc22 but I know enough C++
01:56 Doc22 to translate between them
01:56 Doc22 C++ was the first lang I learned
01:56 Doc22 but I just decided to switch to java
01:56 Doc22 idk why
01:56 OldCoder ?
01:56 OldCoder Better I think
01:56 Doc22 hmmm
01:56 Doc22 easier cross platform
01:56 Doc22 definitely
01:56 OldCoder No
01:56 OldCoder Yes
01:56 OldCoder Sort of
01:56 Doc22 yeah
01:56 OldCoder JNI is bad
01:56 Doc22 lol
01:57 OldCoder But needed
01:57 Doc22 and JAWS
01:57 OldCoder try now Doc22
01:57 Doc22 im just going to write my own libs to update the client for my game
01:57 Doc22 ok
01:57 Doc22 loading content
01:57 OldCoder k
01:57 Doc22 thanks
01:57 OldCoder Let me know
01:57 Doc22 okay
01:57 Doc22 its working
01:57 OldCoder k
01:57 Octupus XD when 2 ppl have a conversation about code and your just like "Da Fack"
01:57 Doc22 ur awesome
01:57 OldCoder Remember pass and do not share it
01:58 Doc22 yup
01:58 OldCoder Doc22, here is my site:
01:58 OldCoder http://oldcoder.org/
01:58 OldCoder Now looking at NekoGloop's problem
01:58 Doc22 cool
01:58 Doc22 seeking employment
01:58 Doc22 im 14
01:59 Doc22 but Im starting a project
01:59 Doc22 do you make textures
01:59 OldCoder You are only 14?
01:59 Doc22 or music
01:59 Doc22 yup
01:59 OldCoder Sounded college
01:59 Doc22 lol
01:59 Doc22 thx
01:59 Doc22 I like computers a lot
01:59 OldCoder You know C++ at 14?
01:59 Doc22 12
01:59 OldCoder They are going to be glad to see you
01:59 Doc22 I switched to java at 13
01:59 OldCoder Need more C++
01:59 OldCoder Java has advantages
01:59 Doc22 and started learning game dev
01:59 OldCoder But it was not FOSS until recently
01:59 Doc22 yeah
02:00 OldCoder Red Hat did Iced Tea
02:00 OldCoder That helped a lot
02:00 Doc22 we could work together on projects
02:00 OldCoder ?
02:00 Doc22 yeah
02:00 Doc22 like my game
02:00 OldCoder Trying new Win client now
02:00 Doc22 and minetest
02:00 OldCoder I'll need to rebuild the client again
02:01 Doc22 oldcoder can you give me interact again
02:01 OldCoder Doc22, coming right up
02:01 Doc22 i promise i didnt lava destroy last time
02:01 Doc22 lol
02:01 Doc22 thx
02:01 Octupus When 2 ppl have conversation about code and your like " Da Fack"
02:01 OldCoder LevelDB branch is not compatible with C55 base
02:02 OldCoder Octupus, you are learning as well
02:02 Octupus XD
02:04 Doc22 did the new client work
02:05 OldCoder No but I know why
02:05 OldCoder I can fix it
02:05 OldCoder Starting a build again now
02:05 Doc22 ok
02:05 Doc22 I hate it when you start something hoping it works and it doesnt
02:05 OldCoder Doc22, visit a few worlds and I will patch in interact tonight
02:05 Doc22 and you build it 20000 times
02:05 OldCoder It is fine
02:05 Doc22 ok
02:05 OldCoder Part of the normal process
02:06 Doc22 yup
02:06 Doc22 ((ooh purple flower))
02:07 Doc22 trying next server
02:07 Doc22 sometimes my head needs a break
02:07 Doc22 from coming up with the frame from my game
02:07 Doc22 and I promised I wouldnt play minecraft when I was upset...
02:08 Doc22 and that led me to find minetest
02:08 Doc22 and learn about the awesome people that make it
02:09 Doc22 hey oldcode can I have interact on 30003
02:09 OldCoder Yes
02:09 Doc22 thx
02:09 OldCoder But somebody needs me
02:09 OldCoder It will need to wait a bit
02:09 Doc22 I can wait
02:12 Octupus TYPOS
02:12 Octupus AHHH
02:17 Doc22 are the servers down again?
02:20 Doc22 ill take that as yes???
02:20 Octupus :l
02:21 Doc22 oh cool I know web development languages tooo
02:21 Doc22 after looking at your site
02:22 Doc22 like HTML CSS and JavaScript
02:22 Octupus :/
02:22 Doc22 I don't know if I really need XML
02:22 Octupus :#
02:23 Doc22 I have some command line experience with ubuntu
02:23 Octupus :/
02:23 Doc22 (old hardcore command line only version)
02:23 Octupus :-|
02:24 Doc22 how old are you oldcoder
02:24 Doc22 im guessing like 40 - 50
02:24 Doc22 from your site
02:24 Octupus :|
02:24 Doc22 since you were proficient in c++ for 30 years
02:25 OldCoder Not C++
02:25 OldCoder C
02:25 Doc22 lol I program HTML in notepad too
02:25 Doc22 oh yah
02:25 OldCoder Yes
02:25 Octupus :?
02:26 Doc22 so how old are you
02:26 FreeFull HTML isn't programming
02:26 Doc22 yeha its a hypertext language
02:26 FreeFull Javascript is
02:26 Doc22 lol
02:27 Octupus :8
02:27 Doc22 I like electronics
02:27 Doc22 as well as programming
02:28 Doc22 I am what you might call a dabbling electrical engineer
02:28 Octupus :.,)
02:28 Doc22 for instance building cuircuts in electricity
02:28 Doc22 lol are you just going to make smiley faces
02:28 Octupus :3
02:30 Octupus Maybe
02:30 Octupus :P
02:30 Octupus :P
02:31 Octupus :.'l;($/)
02:33 Doc22 O_d
02:33 Doc22 hmm
02:33 Doc22 underscore didng show up
02:33 Doc22 oh nvm :P
02:33 Octupus ::
02:34 Doc22 OMG SMILEY FACE COMPETITION
02:34 Doc22 Look of disapproval ಠ_à²
02:35 Doc22 your turn
02:35 Doc22 gooooo octopus gimme a smiley
02:36 Doc22 octupus*
02:36 Octupus Huh
02:36 Doc22 gimme a smile
02:36 Doc22 OMG SMILEY FACE COMPETITION
02:36 Doc22 Look of disapproval ಠ_à²
02:37 Octupus ?
02:37 Doc22 gimme a smiley
02:37 Doc22 if ur gunna make a ton of em
02:37 Octupus I don't do smileys
02:37 Doc22 ok ill go again
02:37 Doc22 Crying disapproval ಥ_ಥ
02:37 Doc22 Twitching eye (e_o)
02:37 Doc22 Kaching! eyes ($‿$)
02:38 Octupus K
02:38 Doc22 Table launching rage! (╯°□°）╯︵ â”»â”â”»
02:38 Doc22 that one made me lol
02:38 Doc22 when i saw it
02:38 Doc22 Constipated face (ﺧ益ﺨ)
02:39 Octupus XD
02:39 Doc22 :D
02:40 Octupus As soon as some1 said constipated
02:40 Octupus U did the face for it XD
02:40 Doc22 its amazing what you can do with japanese symbols
02:41 Octupus Ok c:
02:43 Doc22 wanna play minetest with me
02:43 Octupus Cant
02:43 Octupus iPod doesn't approve
02:43 Doc22 lol
02:46 OldCoder Hi
02:49 Octupus Hi
02:56 * VanessaE peeks in, groans a bit in pain, and flops down on the channel sofa.
02:56 VanessaE if I ever catch the son of a bitch that beat me up, I'll kill him :-)
03:00 Kacey hello
03:00 OldCoder Kacey, hi
03:00 OldCoder VanessaE, hello
03:00 VanessaE hi
03:01 Doc22 ok
03:01 Doc22 i got a server going
03:01 Kacey vannessa me and octu r working on a mod
03:01 OldCoder Good
03:01 Doc22 cool
03:01 VanessaE what's it do?
03:01 Doc22 what will the mod be Kacey
03:01 Kacey makes water currents like in minecraft
03:01 Doc22 and does anyone want to play with me
03:01 Doc22 cool
03:02 Kacey and replaces the default water with kaceywater
03:02 Doc22 which is dynamic
03:02 Doc22 cool
03:02 Doc22 how do you make a mod
03:02 Kacey dedication
03:02 Doc22 im guessing you write in lua right
03:02 Kacey that too
03:02 Doc22 lolz
03:02 Doc22 i can learn if i look at someone elses mods
03:02 Kacey that is what i did
03:03 Doc22 is there a thirst mod
03:03 Doc22 maybe that should be my first mod
03:03 Doc22 if not
03:04 Kacey cool
03:04 Kacey im doing the coding and octupus is doing textures
03:04 Doc22 cool
03:04 Kacey cornernote hello
03:04 Doc22 I made a couple 512 textures but im not sure they are that good
03:05 Kacey cool
03:05 Kacey bbl
03:06 VanessaE evening cornernote
03:06 * Kacey[A] is now away - Reason : shower
03:06 Doc22 lol
03:06 cornernote hi VanessaE
03:06 cornernote hi Kacey
03:06 cornernote hows things ?
03:07 Doc22 cornernote i like your mods
03:07 cornernote thanks Doc22 =)
03:07 Doc22 np
03:07 Doc22 =)
03:10 Doc22 omg
03:10 Doc22 vombie
03:15 babyface1031 night guys
03:22 Doc22 cornernote
03:23 Doc22 can you help me make a mod
03:23 Doc22 I want to know how you would add something like a thirst bar
03:36 Kacey back
03:37 Doc22 kacey
03:37 Doc22 can you help me
03:37 Kacey with what
03:37 Doc22 where do I start with making a mod
03:38 Doc22 and how do i add a sprite like the health thing
03:38 Kacey download infinityproject's modhelper
03:38 Doc22 ok
03:38 Kacey sprite idk
03:38 Doc22 thnaks
03:38 Doc22 thanks
03:38 Kacey np
03:38 Kacey cornernote
03:38 Kacey im making a mod with octupus
03:42 Doc22 cornernote you made the bags mod
03:42 Doc22 how do you change the gui
03:43 Doc22 like adding buttons
03:44 Kacey check the api page
03:44 Doc22 its so long...
03:45 Kacey lol
03:45 Doc22 :'(
03:45 Kacey (hm)
03:46 Kacey i read the whole thing
03:46 Doc22 ok
03:46 Dogzilla131 can somebody tell me how to make a trampoline
03:47 Kacey nope lol
03:49 Dogzilla131 nobody
03:49 Doc22 idk how
03:49 Doc22 i would help
03:49 Doc22 but im new too
03:49 Doc22 :/
03:49 Kacey google it lol
03:49 Dogzilla131 :)
03:50 Doc22 Oldcoder which lua file is the health bar defined it
03:50 Doc22 in
03:50 OldCoder Hi
03:50 Doc22 or is it hardcoded
03:50 Doc22 Hi
03:50 Doc22 do you know?
03:50 OldCoder Doc22, I will start to answer a number of questions of this type soon
03:50 Doc22 ok
03:50 OldCoder Doc22, the next 36 hours are going to be a bit rough for me
03:50 Doc22 i understand
03:50 Kacey why
03:51 OldCoder Kacey, no big deal
03:51 Doc22 probs lots of codes
03:51 OldCoder Just busy finishing something
03:51 OldCoder Must be done by tomorrow night
03:51 Doc22 oooohhhh
03:51 Kacey i cant wait until 0.5 comes out
03:51 Doc22 yu[
03:51 Doc22 yup
03:51 OldCoder Doc22, so I will be here tomorrow but will not answer detailed questions
03:51 Doc22 ok
03:51 Doc22 ill let yu go now
03:51 OldCoder Kacey, perhaps you and Doc22 will help with 0.5
03:51 Doc22 yeah
03:51 OldCoder Doc22, I will be here about 3 hours
03:52 Doc22 I just need to understand more about the frame
03:52 OldCoder But will be in a meeting now for a bit
03:52 Doc22 ok
03:52 Doc22 cya
03:52 OldCoder Doc22, you will fit right in with the core devs
03:52 Doc22 good luck
03:52 Doc22 thanks
03:52 Kacey im just a code monkey lol
03:52 Doc22 lol
03:52 Kacey i find code and that is it
03:52 Doc22 i could use some help from a code monkey
03:52 Doc22 to make a mod
03:52 Kacey ok
03:53 Doc22 idk how to register as an item
03:53 Doc22 like for the health bar
03:53 Doc22 how to make it appear there
03:53 Kacey hmmmm let me find it
03:53 Doc22 i saw how to make an image
03:53 Doc22 but idk how to use it...
03:54 hmmmm the health bar is hardcoded
03:54 Doc22 dang
03:54 Doc22 then no thirst bar :'(
03:55 Doc22 unless I make it in the inventory
03:55 Doc22 or something
03:55 Kacey the odds of there being a person named hmmmm are very low
03:55 Kacey c++
03:55 Doc22 lololol
03:55 hmmmm i plan on doing something like exposing bars via the lua api when it comes time to add armor support
03:55 Doc22 ok
03:55 Kacey ill see if i can read it
03:55 hmmmm hmm
03:55 Doc22 what file is it
03:56 Doc22 I know c++
03:56 hmmmm what, the health bar?
03:56 Doc22 ya
03:56 Kacey where is all the c++ found?
03:56 Doc22 idk
03:57 hmmmm game.cpp, draw_hotbar()
03:58 Doc22 th
03:58 Doc22 thx
03:59 Kacey wtf?
03:59 Kacey l leaned over and lost connection
03:59 Kacey any way
03:59 Kacey what file is c++ code found in
03:59 hmmmm c++_code.txt
04:00 Kacey where is that found?
04:00 hmmmm somewhere
04:00 Kacey is it on windows version?
04:00 hmmmm the fact that you don't know where it is tells me that you have absolutely no idea what you're doing
04:00 Kacey what folder is it in
04:01 hmmmm src
04:01 Kacey i dont use alot of these files/folders often
04:01 Doc22 github
04:01 Kacey ooh
04:01 Doc22 its ok
04:01 Kacey so i have to get the source code and put it in my minetest folder
04:02 hmmmm if you think you're going to make any progress, abandon all hope
04:02 hmmmm learn how to program first and then come back
04:02 Kacey i can do lua but i want to learn c++ also
04:02 Kacey i can program
04:03 hmmmm writing Lua is not programming, it's scripting
04:03 Kacey i can still program
04:04 Kacey command prompt and programming are possible for me im just slow at it
04:05 Doc22 gtg
04:05 Doc22 bye
04:05 Doc22 cya
04:05 Kacey bye
04:08 Kacey im learning O.o
04:08 hmmmm try writing a hello world program in C++ first
04:08 Kacey hello world program?
04:08 hmmmm if you were learning you'd learn what you need in order to accomplish that
04:09 hmmmm see... you don't know anything. read a book on the topic
04:09 Kacey thats funny im 30 miles from the nearest book
04:10 hmmmm there's the internet full of ebooks. there are tutorials
04:10 Kacey GOOGLE!!!!!!!
04:10 hmmmm exactly, use teh g00gz
04:10 Kacey but what is a hello world program?
04:11 hmmmm use teh g00gz
04:11 hmmmm i am not going to bother explaining things that can be searched for in a fraction of a second
04:11 Kacey i did it came up inconclusive
04:11 hmmmm you suck at searching then
04:11 hmmmm at least look at the wikipedia article on the topic.....
04:12 Kacey cant buy from web...
04:12 hmmmm what...?
04:12 Kacey i cant buy a ebook from the web
04:12 hmmmm nobody told you to
04:12 hmmmm you're hopeless
04:13 Kacey back to programming the web
04:13 Kacey i love trolling
04:13 hmmmm lel this
04:13 hmmmm "hurr hey guys look how retarded i am"
04:13 hmmmm "fuck off, retard"
04:13 hmmmm "haha joke's on you guys, i'm just trolling"
04:14 Kacey even funnier
04:14 Kacey "uuh is my leg supposed to do that?"
04:14 Kacey "do what?"
04:14 Kacey troll face on leg "that"
04:16 Kacey i hate protected websites
04:19 * VanessaE grumbles.
04:27 * VanessaE wanders off to bed.
04:27 VanessaE night all.
04:43 OldCoder night
05:27 GTRsdk Do you think food & eating will be apart of official minetest?
05:34 OldCoder Town Test NPC eats, I think
05:34 OldCoder So why not the player?
05:41 GTRsdk Do you think mobs will be part of official minetest?
05:43 OldCoder I have no position on mobs as of yet
06:18 celeron55 morning! *fries eggs*
06:21 GTRsdk hey celeron55 :D
07:35 OldCoder celeron55, how were the eggs?
07:35 OldCoder Inquiring minds want to know!
08:19 celeron55 well, good enough; i am not at home at the moment and the pan turned out to be one of the kinds i am not too used to 8)
08:23 celeron55 (i like pans that are able to fry things at least a bit, that was one on which things almost levitate on)
09:02 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
10:24 Calinou hi
10:24 PilzAdam hi Calinou
10:24 Taoki hi
10:30 Calinou https://dl.dropbox.com/u/82342922/calinou_minetest_stuff.html new, compressed background :D
10:32 PilzAdam you can see the tree of the easteregg
10:32 Calinou minetest logo if you go to fullscreen :p
10:32 Calinou there's a white flower near the tree, yes
10:32 PilzAdam btw: "I now run a server! Feel free to join." <- broken link
10:34 Calinou yep, changed the news anyway (moreblocks update)
10:34 Calinou it's been a while since I updated a mod :p
10:34 Calinou s/updated/last updated
11:04 * Jordach shuts avast updates voice up
11:06 PilzAdam somone has any reason to not merge this? https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game/pull/24
11:20 khor
12:11 OdnetninI ant new notice?
12:11 PilzAdam ??
12:12 OdnetninI ??
12:28 rubenwardy hi all
12:29 PilzAdam hi rubenwardy
12:56 rubenwardy any news?
13:13 NekoGloop Meow. :3
13:15 NekoGloop http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3281 lol'd
13:17 * PilzAdam is back
13:40 OldCoder Hi
13:40 OldCoder NekoGloop, here?
13:40 NekoGloop yes
13:40 NekoGloop i assume compilation was again a failure?
13:41 OldCoder NekoGloop, not exactly...
13:41 OldCoder I know what the issues are...
13:41 NekoGloop oh?
13:41 * OldCoder writes
13:43 OldCoder C55 base has changed enough that clients built with that must use servers built with that. But servers built with that don't support LevelDB. So that is out until thexyz merges. I therefore tried to build thexyz for you but thexyz requires Boost and MySQL. Those can be turned off but he has not finished the settings or changes to do so. In short: thexyz needs to merge upstream or he needs to finish Windows compatibility changes.
13:44 NekoGloop um...
13:44 NekoGloop I'm fine with not using LevelDB atm.
13:45 OldCoder That is not the point
13:45 OldCoder NekoGloop, today I am here but I have slept 4 hours only and must finish something very large within about 16 hours
13:45 OldCoder My attention will be IRL
13:45 NekoGloop then go sleep.
13:45 OldCoder I cannot
13:46 OldCoder I must work on the large thing right now
13:46 OldCoder If thexyz comes please ask him to merge
13:46 OldCoder Or to remove Boost and MySQL for Windows
13:46 OldCoder Either will do
13:46 OldCoder Then I tell you true
13:46 OldCoder You will probably have a nice client
13:46 OldCoder
13:47 [JJ]Albert One that doesn't end sentences with blank statements.
13:47 [JJ]Albert
13:47 NekoGloop irony ^
13:47 [JJ]Albert No, joke.
13:47 [JJ]Albert I copied the blank character
13:48 [JJ]Albert
13:48 [JJ]Albert See?
13:48 [JJ]Albert
13:48 OldCoder ?
13:48 [JJ]Albert Er, NVM...
13:48 [JJ]Albert I'm just being silly for the sake of it.
13:48 OldCoder k
13:49 NekoGloop ok...
13:50 NekoGloop let's see, how would i compile...
13:50 OldCoder I promise to do this when the code is merged or adjusted
13:50 NekoGloop well I want the client as it stands from git.
13:51 NekoGloop (with T_A_N_K's patch)
13:51 OldCoder Patch will work with several versions
13:51 NekoGloop no..
13:51 NekoGloop the code was not changed.
13:51 NekoGloop the numbers given to the code were changed.
13:51 OldCoder Not following; patch can be applied to several versions
13:52 OldCoder I think I am agreeing with you
13:52 NekoGloop ah.
13:52 NekoGloop thought you said it -wouldnt- work with several versions.
13:52 OldCoder <OldCoder> Patch will work with several versions
13:53 NekoGloop notice that i am asking for something specific and not getting it.
13:54 OldCoder ?
13:54 NekoGloop I want upstream git with JUST T_A_N_K'S PATCH. NOTHING MORE.
13:55 OldCoder You did not read above
13:55 OldCoder Period
13:55 OldCoder Please read it
13:55 NekoGloop you are insisting on LevelDB.
13:55 OldCoder C55 base has changed enough that clients built with that must use servers built with that. But servers built with that don't support LevelDB. So that is out until thexyz merges. I therefore tried to build thexyz for you but thexyz requires Boost and MySQL. Those can be turned off but he has not finished the settings or changes to do so. In short: thexyz needs to merge upstream or he needs to finish Windows compatibility changes.
13:55 OldCoder No
13:55 OldCoder LevelDB has nothing to do with it the way you mean
13:55 OldCoder I think I see the confusion
13:55 NekoGloop YOU ARE NOT JUST BUILDING THE SOURCE...
13:55 NekoGloop I JUST WANT THIS FOR SINGLEPLAYER
13:55 PilzAdam OldCoder, here is a branch wich is upstrean with TANKS digging animation: https://github.com/PilzAdam/minetest/tree/digging_animation
13:56 OldCoder That is fine
13:56 NekoGloop SO IT DOESNT MATTER IF IT IS SERVER-INCOMPATIBLE.
13:56 OldCoder PilzAdam, He does not need LevelDB but I do
13:56 OldCoder NekoGloop, chill
13:56 OldCoder NekoGloop, I see the confusion and it is fine
13:56 PilzAdam OldCoder, can you build this branch?
13:56 OldCoder PilzAdam, I will try to explain one more time. And thank you.
13:56 * OldCoder writes
13:58 OldCoder I need, for my own purposes, one of two things. thexyz to merge LevelDB and his other patches into C55. Or thexyz to remove need for Boost and MySQL from Windows build. NekoGloop needs less and I can help him. But not today at all. I have slept 4 hours and must finish hundreds of pages of writing in 16 hours.
13:58 OldCoder PilzAdam, thexyz|away ^
13:58 OldCoder Well, about 90 pages of writing. Not hundreds.
13:59 PilzAdam okay, then write first
13:59 OldCoder Alternative...
14:00 OldCoder NekoGloop says many fine patches in C55 now. thexyz could merge the other way and copy those patches into his version. Or people could give them to me in diff -ruN patch format and I could take care of it. Many good options. It will all work out.
14:00 PilzAdam to xyz master branch?
14:01 OldCoder db_levels branch IIRC
14:01 OldCoder All my worlds will be based on that until C55 has LevelDB
14:01 OldCoder db_backends branch I think
14:01 OldCoder Whatever it is called the branch will not build under Windows
14:01 OldCoder The neko is angry but I spent about 90 minutes last night trying to make these options work
14:03 NekoGloop just... someone tell me how to build minetest alerady...
14:04 OldCoder NekoGloop, I have scripts
14:05 OldCoder My own derivative of the previous Windows cross build framework
14:05 OldCoder It is easy
14:05 OldCoder I will post everything
14:05 OldCoder Maybe you could do your part and help a little
14:06 PilzAdam OldCoder, does this help? https://gist.github.com/4012059
14:06 OldCoder R
14:07 OldCoder PilzAdam, It should be the issue is building under Windows; how does that approach the issue?
14:07 OldCoder *should but
14:07 OldCoder We need...
14:08 OldCoder A way to turn off the use of Boost, MySQL, and LevelDB when the code is built for Windows
14:08 OldCoder Or
14:08 OldCoder A way to turn off MySQL and the missing pieces needed to build with Boost and LevelDB
14:08 OldCoder Either will do
14:09 PilzAdam so you cant build the upstream sources on windows?
14:09 OldCoder No; as has been stated above. The issue is simple.
14:09 PilzAdam ok
14:09 OldCoder It requires Boost, MySQL, and LevelDB. There is conditional code for MySQL. but the conditional code does not appear to work.
14:10 PilzAdam but there are others who can build on win
14:10 OldCoder I have not yet identified conditional code for Boost and MySQL.
14:10 OldCoder I am not following you...
14:10 OldCoder Do these others build thexyz database fork?
14:10 PilzAdam no
14:10 OldCoder it seems highly unlikely
14:10 OldCoder Yes
14:10 PilzAdam but Neko doesnt want it
14:10 OldCoder Therefore I do not follow the point
14:10 OldCoder I am aware of this
14:11 OldCoder I will try to help NekoGloop further tomorrow or Tuesday
14:11 OldCoder I can't spend more time today as there is 90 pages to finish
14:11 OldCoder And if it is not finished...
14:11 PilzAdam if I understand Neko correctly he just want the digging animation
14:11 OldCoder The consequences are somewhat significant
14:11 OldCoder No
14:11 OldCoder That is not all he wants
14:11 PilzAdam better you go to work now
14:11 PilzAdam I dont want to bother you anymore
14:12 OldCoder He stated yesterday quite clearly he will not be satisfied with less than C55 base with latest patches plus the digging animation
14:12 OldCoder I can chat lightly
14:12 OldCoder and be more fulltime again tomorrow
14:12 NekoGloop github upstream plus digging animation
14:12 OldCoder I will be away on Wednesday
14:12 OldCoder ^ yes as I said
14:12 NekoGloop Your other patches were a bonus if they worked 8)
14:12 PilzAdam somone knows a tutorial how to cross-compile?
14:13 OldCoder My scripts will do it
14:13 OldCoder See: the current Windows 30MB ZIP
14:13 OldCoder Works great
14:13 NekoGloop I'm having one hell of a time getting cmake to not bitch at me.
14:13 OldCoder Faster and more stable than standard one
14:13 OldCoder Heh
14:13 OldCoder Kitty now you get the idea
14:13 OldCoder Easy enough to hiss at the issue. Mrowwr!
14:13 OldCoder Try to do it yourself and see :p
14:14 OldCoder If you can wait, like 24 hours, we can make progress
14:14 OldCoder I'd really like to hatch two chickens with one nest
14:15 OldCoder And get thexyz version to include C55 enhancements plus build under Windows
14:15 OldCoder That would be a significant step forward
14:15 NekoGloop i think we all know that thexyz doesnt give half a shit about windows.
14:15 OldCoder I almost got it to work last night
14:15 OldCoder Came pretty close to compiling
14:19 NekoGloop Could NOT find IRRLICHT (missing: IRRLICHT_LIBRARY)
14:20 OldCoder I have all of this part working easy
14:20 NekoGloop that means what?
14:20 OldCoder It already works
14:20 OldCoder Wait a day or two
14:20 NekoGloop Could NOT find IRRLICHT (missing: IRRLICHT_LIBRARY)
14:20 NekoGloop that means what?
14:20 OldCoder You are sort of wasting your time
14:20 OldCoder Oh!
14:20 OldCoder That means you do not have Irrlicht set up properly for cmake purposes
14:21 NekoGloop which i do... how?
14:21 OldCoder I would recommend that you use my framework
14:21 NekoGloop > which i do... how?
14:21 OldCoder By being a patient kitty for, like, 24 hours. Maybe 48.
14:21 OldCoder Then receiving the gift of code
14:22 NekoGloop kitty will not be patient.
14:22 OldCoder or exe
14:22 OldCoder Very well
14:22 OldCoder As you will
14:22 NekoGloop how will kitty set up cmake.
14:22 OldCoder Well as you will
14:22 OldCoder By editing...
14:22 OldCoder A file with a name similar to CMakeList(s) dot txt or dot nothing
14:22 OldCoder Depending on what you see
14:22 cosarara97 Set IRRLICHT path manually using cmake-gui?
14:22 OldCoder If he has it yes
14:23 OldCoder I just edit the file
14:23 NekoGloop I have cmake-gui, I would be fucking lost in CLI.
14:23 OldCoder You will CLI when you are ready
14:23 OldCoder It is not hard
14:23 Doc22 Hey Oldcoder
14:23 OldCoder Doc22, hi
14:23 NekoGloop except for the fact that there is no way to know what you have to type?
14:24 OldCoder Yep
14:24 OldCoder It is to be learned
14:24 NekoGloop BACK ON TOPIC.
14:24 OldCoder And is not hard
14:24 NekoGloop how do i configure cmake to recognize irrlicht?
14:24 Doc22 still working to finish that project
14:24 OldCoder Doc22, Yes
14:24 OldCoder About 16 hours and 90 pages to go
14:24 Doc22 hope you finish it in time
14:24 OldCoder T y
14:24 Doc22 =)
14:24 NekoGloop cmake is retarded as hell.
14:25 OldCoder Yes, actually
14:25 PilzAdam not on Linux
14:25 OldCoder The problem with systems designed to make things simpler is that they are not flexible
14:25 NekoGloop shitnix does nothing better.
14:25 PilzAdam you ever tried it?
14:25 OldCoder NekoGloop, except provide you with fodder for jokes :-)
14:25 NekoGloop Yes.
14:25 PilzAdam how long?
14:26 Doc22 which distribute
14:26 NekoGloop 2 minutes.
14:26 OldCoder Distro?
14:26 NekoGloop because it doesnt install.
14:26 Doc22 hmmm
14:26 OldCoder Boot LiveCD
14:26 Doc22 yeah
14:26 NekoGloop Ubuntu, Arch, etc.
14:26 Doc22 thats what u neab
14:26 OldCoder Puppy Linux maybe
14:26 PilzAdam okay, you seem to be an expert on Linux
14:26 OldCoder NekoGloop, talk to mrtux
14:26 OldCoder He can show you Arch and others
14:26 Doc22 is it an old pc you tried to install it on
14:26 NekoGloop Do i look like i give a flying shit about linux?
14:27 Doc22 no
14:27 OldCoder It is about you
14:27 OldCoder You care about your own priorities. This is fine.
14:27 OldCoder The question is, what will work best for you?
14:28 NekoGloop what will work best is if someone told me i had to click the check box that says advanced to see the IRRLICHT_LIBRARY variable.
14:28 PilzAdam OldCoder, i see you dont care about your own priorities; you would write 90 pages ATM if you do so
14:28 Doc22 some think that ubuntu is better than windows
14:28 NekoGloop (which is a similar reason to why i hate CLI)
14:28 OldCoder PilzAdam, the 90 pages is largely done in draft form. My brain is different. I cannot focus here in chat but I can chat lightly.
14:29 NekoGloop and since shitnix is pretty much all CLI? yeah, no.
14:29 OldCoder I never understood "multitasking"
14:29 OldCoder I can only focus in one place
14:29 OldCoder Period. But part of me can be elsewhere lightly.
14:29 Doc22 Im kinda the same way
14:29 OldCoder Must be common
14:29 Doc22 but I am capable of multitasking
14:29 OldCoder Not sure I believe in true "multitasking"
14:29 Doc22 heavily
14:29 OldCoder Oh?
14:29 Doc22 yeah
14:30 Doc22 but I don't do things as well if i multitask
14:30 PilzAdam humans can not think about more than 1 thing at one time; thats a fact
14:30 OldCoder Agreed
14:30 Doc22 some can if they have a disorder...
14:30 Doc22 i think
14:30 OldCoder Not sure
14:31 PilzAdam you can do many things, but not think about it
14:31 OldCoder yes
14:31 PilzAdam (at the same time)
14:31 Doc22 yeah I guess that is what i do
14:32 Doc22 I have adhd
14:32 OldCoder You do pretty well with it
14:32 Doc22 maybe that is why im a good programmer at 14
14:32 OldCoder Usually opposite
14:32 OldCoder Unless
14:32 OldCoder There is a component of OCD
14:32 OldCoder Or Autism
14:32 OldCoder ADHD will counter
14:32 OldCoder The other two will help; this at least
14:33 Doc22 hmmmm
14:33 Doc22 I know I dont have autism
14:33 OldCoder Note that Autism does not mean Aspergers though Aspergers may mean Autism
14:33 OldCoder Then are you OCD?
14:33 Doc22 but i might have the other slightly
14:33 OldCoder It is consistent
14:33 OldCoder with a young engineer type
14:33 OldCoder If you are social
14:33 OldCoder You are not the other thing
14:34 Doc22 yeah
14:36 OldCoder wb
14:36 OldCoder mauvebic, cosarara97
14:36 Jordach HEY mauvebic
14:39 mauvebic wassup
14:40 Lumpio- aspies, aspies everywhere
14:40 OldCoder ?
14:40 OldCoder I am not Aspergers if that is a reference to the above discussion
14:41 OldCoder Or at least that is not the central issue
14:42 rubenwardy i hate McAfee
14:43 NekoGloop fatal error C1083: Cannot open include file: 'irrTypes.h': No such file or directory
14:43 Lumpio- aspies, aspies everywhere
14:44 NekoGloop OldCoder: know what this means: fatal error C1083: Cannot open include file: 'irrTypes.h': No such file or directory ?
14:44 OldCoder Yes
14:44 OldCoder You need the Irrlicht header files and library file(s) installed.
14:44 NekoGloop know how to fix it?
14:45 OldCoder Yes
14:45 OldCoder Use my framework
14:45 * OldCoder sighs
14:45 OldCoder Or...
14:45 OldCoder Download the Windows Irrlicht dot-A file and the associated header files. Then edit the cmake configuration file to reflect the locations of those files.
14:45 OldCoder Or dot-DLL file.
14:45 OldCoder Instead of dot-A file.
14:46 OldCoder Whatever.
14:46 OldCoder Better yet...
14:46 OldCoder Don't compile under Windows.
14:46 OldCoder Friends don't let friends compile under Windows.
14:46 OldCoder Windows is Sindows.
14:46 mauvebic lol one of my mods dont even work under windows
14:46 NekoGloop and your poems are getting annoying.
14:46 OldCoder Might be correctable
14:47 OldCoder NekoGloop, you know that I rhymes all the times
14:47 OldCoder it is a coping mechanism
14:47 OldCoder You have your meow
14:47 OldCoder I have my rhythm
14:47 OldCoder Ought you criticize me?
14:47 rubenwardy #include <irrlicht.h>
14:47 rubenwardy irrlicht and C+
14:47 OldCoder ^ yes but he must c how to make cmake work
14:47 rubenwardy sorry
14:48 rubenwardy irrlicht and C++ are like my mother: fussy other how I say stuff
14:48 * OldCoder laughs out loud
14:48 OldCoder Irrlicht to developer: Put on your galoshes!
14:48 mauvebic ruben, you know how to patch tiles.cpp to load more textures ingame?
14:49 NekoGloop does there even slightly need to be this much crap?
14:49 OldCoder Dogzilla131, hi
14:49 rubenwardy i have no idea how minetest works
14:49 OldCoder NekoGloop, it is an argument for switching to C and a different build mechanism
14:49 rubenwardy i would guess it is a define in define.h
14:49 mauvebic me neither, every file links to every other file lol
14:49 Dogzilla131 hi everybody
14:50 mauvebic i can call a python script from the chat console but i cant use the image it makes lol
14:50 * VanessaE peeks in for a few.
14:50 VanessaE boo.
14:50 OldCoder VanessaE, hi
14:50 NekoGloop VanessaE: got the slightest idea how to fix this: fatal error C1083: Cannot open include file: 'irrTypes.h': No such file or directory ?
14:50 PilzAdam hi VanessaE
14:50 VanessaE no clue, neko.
14:50 NekoGloop ha.
14:51 VanessaE I don't know how building on Windows works.
14:51 NekoGloop well since the minetest community obviously doesnt give a shit about people who actually have a problem, I'm not surprised.
14:51 mauvebic ?
14:51 VanessaE now now, neko
14:51 VanessaE not all of us are windows geeks :-)
14:52 OldCoder meow meow, neko :p
14:52 mauvebic explain cuz i dont get it
14:52 OldCoder It will be fine
14:52 VanessaE mauvebic: nice to see you on channel again.
14:52 OldCoder mauvebic you were the bus driver; is this correct?
14:52 mauvebic yes and yes
14:52 OldCoder It will be finetest
14:52 PilzAdam VanessaE, maybe your video filters make it upstream if you remove the things from the GUI
14:52 mauvebic or hello and yes
14:52 babyface1031 once you pick a apple do they grown back or do you have to replant the tree
14:52 VanessaE PilzAdam: won't happen.
14:52 OldCoder mauvebic, I am pleased to see you again
14:53 OldCoder VanessaE, you are in thexyz fork and mine
14:53 jin_xi NekoGloop: do you have the dev files (headers) for irrlicht installed?
14:53 VanessaE I put them in the GUI because it's stupid to require editing the config for such basic settings.
14:53 NekoGloop jin_xi: where do i get those.
14:53 mauvebic ive been sick all of last week so i got nothing done except crapy xmas spotlights lol
14:53 rubenwardy yay or neigh: LUA scripting to load the main menu
14:53 OldCoder Why not?
14:53 PilzAdam babyface1031, default apples?
14:53 jin_xi NekoGloop: you're on windows, right?
14:53 NekoGloop rubenwardy: unless you have a good reason.
14:53 rubenwardy yay or neigh means would you like that or not.
14:53 NekoGloop jin_xi: duh.
14:53 NekoGloop rubenwardy: i know
14:54 babyface1031 i think the ones that grow from the saplings
14:54 NekoGloop but if you dont have a good reason, I say neigh.
14:54 rubenwardy Would be good for Jeija's Mod Manager: would not have to do all that C++ stuff
14:54 PilzAdam babyface1031, you have to replant the tree
14:54 VanessaE babyface1031: apples don't regrow unless you chop the tree down and replant it, then they might.
14:54 babyface1031 ok ty
14:54 OldCoder We need to fix the floating apples
14:54 VanessaE OldCoder: +1
14:54 OldCoder I think Jordach said they could be made to fall
14:54 mauvebic found a wicked bug in the engine this week lol
14:54 NekoGloop OldCoder: realtest does so.
14:54 OldCoder Ah
14:55 VanessaE mauvebic: what"
14:55 VanessaE ?
14:55 mauvebic whenever i make cones with desert_stone, the mapgen kicks in and dumps grass and trees on it, but only with desert_stone
14:55 jin_xi NekoGloop: http://irrlicht.sourceforge.net/downloads um, here?
14:55 NekoGloop i have that.
14:56 mauvebic yours does that too?
14:56 VanessaE PilzAdam: in fact, not only won't it happen, I plan to add a few more settings to the GUI. There's NO REASON for the Settings Menu tab to remain so barren while at the same time leaving such fundamental gfx settings only in the config.
14:56 jin_xi ok, then make sure your ide knows where to look for headers
14:57 NekoGloop jin_xi: the what with the what?
14:57 NekoGloop at least minecraft doesnt make you go through all this shit to play the latest version.
14:57 OldCoder VanessaE, how tired are you?
14:57 VanessaE sorry if celeron55 doesn't like the idea, but it's stupid to waste screen space :-)
14:57 VanessaE OldCoder: getting better, but still quite tired.
14:57 jin_xi NekoGloop: http://irrlicht.sourceforge.net/docu/example001.html
14:57 OldCoder I see
14:58 babyface1031 @Dogzilla131 are you able to get on the server?
14:58 OldCoder Is there an issue?
14:58 NekoGloop jin_xi: so unhelpful.
14:58 babyface1031 i locked up and now cant get back in i was going to see if it was just me before i bothered you
14:59 OldCoder Reviewing
14:59 OldCoder No sign of a crash. If it has locked up that is not good. Can't have that.
15:00 OldCoder This would be about the third time.
15:00 OldCoder Reviewing further.
15:00 babyface1031 i was makeing a green glass floor before it kicked me
15:00 OldCoder Reviewing further.
15:00 babyface1031 and i was the only one on so ......
15:00 OldCoder This will take a couple of minutes
15:01 babyface1031 ok
15:01 OldCoder This may be the network code
15:01 OldCoder celeron55 showed me the part that's a problem
15:01 OldCoder A bit of work there may fix quite a bit
15:01 jin_xi NekoGloop: If your IDE is Visual Studio .NET, select Tools -> Options. Select the projects entry and then select VC++ directories. Select 'show directories for include files' in the combo box, and add the include directory of the irrlicht engine folder to the list of directories.
15:02 OldCoder babyface1031, I am restarting that world
15:02 babyface1031 ok
15:02 mauvebic is this in the latest git? (https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/commit/41c00e87d42580881d8c7001f39014814e3b55f2)
15:03 NekoGloop its building! :D
15:03 OldCoder Good
15:03 babyface1031 up i am logging in now
15:03 babyface1031 it is loading
15:03 NekoGloop or at least not crapping out millions of errors.
15:04 NekoGloop I told cmake the wrong path for IRRLICHT_INCLUDE_DIR
15:04 OldCoder That can be fixed
15:05 NekoGloop i just fixed it. :3
15:05 OldCoder Good
15:05 Dogzilla131 no i cant get in either
15:05 OldCoder Checking
15:06 OldCoder Restarting again and will review low level logs as I do
15:06 OldCoder The debug.txt file
15:06 NekoGloop we should be able to have nodes that fall up.
15:07 OldCoder Heh
15:07 babyface1031 i wonder if it is the new green glass
15:07 OldCoder Antigravity
15:07 OldCoder babyface1031, if so I can revert
15:07 OldCoder babyface1031, world restarted again
15:07 OldCoder See what happens
15:07 babyface1031 ok
15:08 OldCoder 15:08:09: INFO[ServerThread]: WARNING: active block modifiers took 340ms (longer than 200ms)
15:08 OldCoder I'm getting a lot of messages like that
15:08 OldCoder Sounds pretty slow
15:08 OldCoder If still locked out
15:08 OldCoder I will revert the new blocks mod
15:09 OldCoder and see what happens
15:09 mauvebic comment out some abms
15:09 OldCoder I have a backup from yesterday BTW
15:09 OldCoder babyface1031, status?
15:09 babyface1031 i am in
15:09 NekoGloop you, sir, have too many abms.
15:09 OldCoder Suggestions are welcome; this is Octupus world
15:09 OldCoder It may be his new blocks
15:12 Dogzilla131 im in too
15:12 OldCoder See if the problem returns
15:12 OldCoder That took way too long
15:12 OldCoder Maybe I should revert to backup and remove the mod
15:12 Doc22 oldcoder im getting an error in minetest
15:12 Doc22 it says this:
15:12 OldCoder Doc22, go on
15:13 Doc22 error in function "on_step"
15:13 Doc22 or something like that
15:13 OldCoder Which world?
15:13 Doc22 in my client
15:13 Doc22 im playing with my brother
15:13 OldCoder Single user?
15:13 OldCoder No
15:13 OldCoder Which world?
15:13 OldCoder Doc22, ^
15:13 Doc22 ???
15:13 OldCoder Where are you playing?
15:14 Doc22 on my own world with my brother
15:14 OldCoder Single user?
15:14 OldCoder Or you made a server?
15:14 Doc22 no we are both playing on it
15:14 OldCoder This is a world of yours on a server that you are running?
15:14 Doc22 it happens when he takes a step
15:14 OldCoder This is a world of yours on a server that you are running?
15:14 Doc22 no I went to advanced->create world->run
15:14 Doc22 and he joined
15:14 OldCoder Doc22, excuse my repeated question...
15:15 Doc22 my client which is hosting it
15:15 Doc22 lol its ok
15:15 OldCoder Are you in single user or multi user mode?
15:15 Doc22 multi
15:15 OldCoder Very well
15:15 Doc22 my brother is playing....
15:15 OldCoder Where is the server located?
15:15 Doc22 my pc
15:15 Doc22 i run the client
15:15 Doc22 as the server
15:15 Doc22 and i play on the "server"
15:15 OldCoder Doc22, what client? Where did you get it
15:15 OldCoder ?
15:16 Doc22 i downloaded from main site
15:16 Doc22 and ran /bin/minetest.exe
15:16 OldCoder And you have started a world
15:16 Doc22 uues
15:16 Doc22 yes
15:16 OldCoder Doc22, I may comment if I build a new Windows EXE and have you try it
15:16 Doc22 what
15:16 OldCoder I can't comment on the version that you are presently running
15:16 Doc22 i havent tried it
15:16 Doc22 ok
15:17 Doc22 sure
15:17 Doc22 so i just paste it into bin and run it
15:17 OldCoder Doc22, is this a bleeding edge or older version? How is it dated?
15:17 Doc22 ots 0.4.3
15:17 Doc22 its*
15:17 OldCoder Yes
15:17 OldCoder But built when? And where did the minetest_game part come from?
15:17 Doc22 i downloaded it yesterday morning
15:17 OldCoder Doc22, do you have a link?
15:18 Doc22 it was in the bin folder
15:18 OldCoder The exact link
15:18 Doc22 http://minetest.net/download.php
15:18 Doc22 and the file is
15:18 Doc22 https://github.com/downloads/celeron55/minetest/minetest-0.4.3-win32.zip
15:18 OldCoder Hmm
15:18 OldCoder Built when? Hold on
15:19 OldCoder Doc22, is your world based on minimal or minetest_game ?
15:19 Doc22 1 min
15:20 Doc22 heres what i see in console
15:20 Doc22 Server gameid="minetest"
15:20 Doc22 it seems to be working
15:20 Doc22 all i did is try starting it again
15:20 Doc22 the first 2 times it messed up
15:20 Doc22 3rd works?
15:21 OldCoder Doc22, how did you create this world?
15:21 NekoGloop minetest... is... running...
15:21 OldCoder Is it based on minimal or minetest_game?
15:21 Doc22 i think minetest_game
15:21 OldCoder NekoGloop, this... is... Sparta
15:21 PilzAdam NekoGloop, you compiled on windows?
15:21 Doc22 but i forget
15:21 NekoGloop Yes. Yes i did.
15:21 Doc22 it seems to be working
15:21 Doc22 now
15:21 OldCoder Doc22, where did you obtain the minetest_game? Do you have a link?
15:21 OldCoder Fine
15:21 Doc22 i tried restarting it again
15:21 Doc22 what
15:21 PilzAdam NekoGloop, with TANKs animation?
15:22 NekoGloop lag. lag. lag. lag.
15:22 Doc22 i just downloaded the zip here https://github.com/downloads/celeron55/minetest/minetest-0.4.3-win32.zip
15:22 OldCoder Never mind
15:22 OldCoder Reviewing
15:22 Doc22 and ran the exe i found in the bin folder
15:22 Doc22 oh ok
15:22 NekoGloop PilzAdam: forgot to add that, but I am able to re-build.
15:22 Kacey hello
15:22 OldCoder So it is not based on minetest_game
15:22 OldCoder Kacey, hi
15:22 PilzAdam NekoGloop, does it only lag in your build?
15:22 Kacey ho w is it going oldcoder
15:22 OldCoder Fine t y
15:22 Kacey yw
15:22 NekoGloop yeah but i forgot to disable all the fancy crap.
15:22 NekoGloop :P
15:23 OldCoder Not so easy kitty is it
15:23 OldCoder :p back
15:23 NekoGloop that and minetest generally lags immediatly after world-gen.
15:23 Kacey i want to learn how to build minetest
15:23 OldCoder Kacey, do you have Linux?
15:23 Doc22 wait a sec
15:23 Kacey no
15:23 Doc22 i found the problem source
15:23 OldCoder Kacey, get Linux
15:24 OldCoder Doc22, yes?
15:24 Doc22 i downloaded simplemobs
15:24 OldCoder Ah
15:24 OldCoder mod
15:24 OldCoder mob mod
15:24 Doc22 http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3063
15:24 OldCoder mo{b,d}
15:24 OldCoder yes
15:24 OldCoder CPU death
15:24 OldCoder x_x
15:24 Doc22 when i hit a dirt monster
15:24 Doc22 it says that error
15:24 OldCoder Very well
15:24 Kacey i cannot buy anything right now
15:24 OldCoder Kacey, Linux is 100% free
15:24 Doc22 so i remove the mod....
15:24 Doc22 i guess
15:24 Kacey ?
15:25 OldCoder Kacey, there is nothing to buy
15:25 Doc22 i downloaded simple mobs http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3063
15:25 NekoGloop I didnt say to "build with lag" you crappy piece of software.
15:25 Doc22 and it messed up
15:25 PilzAdam Doc22, simple mobs does not work with 0.4.3 stable
15:25 Doc22 :'(
15:25 Kacey besides this isnt my computer
15:25 Doc22 oh ok
15:25 Doc22 lol
15:25 OldCoder Kacey, back at your father's again?
15:25 OldCoder Kacey, You can build MT under both Linux and Windows
15:25 Kacey no im in la junta at my old babysitter's house
15:25 OldCoder Give it time and it will work out
15:25 Doc22 im just going through mods list "hmm lets see. That sounds fun, download, pasted, next mod..."
15:25 Kacey well i want to learn in windows
15:25 OldCoder Doc22, that is not advisable
15:26 OldCoder Kacey, Poor choice
15:26 Doc22 lol
15:26 Doc22 ikr
15:26 Doc22 i downloaded like 15 mods....
15:26 OldCoder Kacey, you are old enough to be a coder. Get Linux when you can.
15:26 Kacey this computer runs windows 7
15:26 OldCoder It can run Linux too
15:26 Doc22 I DONT HAVE THE TIME TO LOOK AT EACH MOD I DOWNLOAD
15:26 OldCoder Doc22, uh... do you wish the game to work?
15:26 Doc22 XD
15:26 Doc22 yus
15:26 Kacey i know windows xp inside and out
15:26 OldCoder Very well
15:26 OldCoder Kacey, all right
15:26 Doc22 I removed the mod that messes up
15:27 OldCoder good luck
15:27 Doc22 oh lol
15:27 Kacey i even made a superior version of xp that kicks all other os' a**
15:27 OldCoder Go on
15:27 Doc22 im an xp junkie too
15:27 OldCoder That sounds interesting
15:27 Doc22 XP!!!!
15:27 Kacey essentially i took out system32
15:27 Doc22 the probs with vista...l
15:27 OldCoder XP You See Is Right For You and Me XP My Love Peaceful as a Dove XP
15:28 Doc22 crappy architecture in vista
15:28 OldCoder No system32 what did you do
15:28 Doc22 windows 7 just doesnt have as much power
15:28 Doc22 for customization
15:28 Kacey long process on the rest
15:28 NekoGloop hrm...
15:28 Kacey so many patches from an old mac computer and a little linux
15:29 NekoGloop why... is... mine...test.... so ...laggy...!
15:29 Doc22 ok
15:29 Doc22 simple mobs is gone
15:29 Doc22 now for....
15:29 Kacey i don't (crash)
15:29 OldCoder NekoGloop, It is nice and fast for me
15:29 Doc22 MOB Framework!!!
15:30 OldCoder NekoGloop, use a real compiler to build it
15:30 OldCoder And good settings
15:30 OldCoder And so on
15:30 OldCoder In short
15:30 NekoGloop and... why... is... there.... no... minetest....conf....
15:30 Kacey compiler?
15:30 OldCoder Build under Linux
15:30 NekoGloop OldCoder: I used MSVC++10
15:30 OldCoder Kacey, the compiler is the program that takes C++ code and makes an EXE
15:30 Kacey i need a compiler
15:30 PilzAdam NekoGloop, the minetest.conf appears after first time exiting minetest
15:30 OldCoder NekoGloop, I rest my case
15:30 OldCoder Kacey, it is 100% for Linux
15:30 NekoGloop PilzAdam: I've exited minetest 3 times now.
15:31 OldCoder *100% free for Linux
15:31 Kacey ok going to find one if not convert it
15:31 PilzAdam NekoGloop, press F5 in the directory
15:31 OldCoder Kacey, If you wish, search for MinGW
15:31 Kacey i have the google
15:31 Kacey free windows compiler software download
15:32 OldCoder MinGW ?
15:32 Kacey ill search that next
15:33 Kacey lol the full name of it
15:34 rubenwardy (3:28:18 PM) Doc22: windows 7 just doesnt have as much power
15:34 rubenwardy (3:28:24 PM) Doc22: for customization
15:34 rubenwardy You would be surprised. There is lots of Registery settings
15:34 rubenwardy and you could replace the entire explorer.exe
15:34 Kacey rubenwardy half of them are pretty much impossible to change/get to
15:35 rubenwardy regedit?
15:35 Kacey ?
15:35 rubenwardy it is a program that edits registery
15:35 Kacey ooh
15:36 rubenwardy Go to run, type "regedit.exe"
15:36 Kacey well im no good with 7 so....
15:36 rubenwardy yeah
15:36 rubenwardy XP is still pretty solid
15:36 rubenwardy but it is no Linux
15:36 Kacey like a rock
15:37 Kacey at least windows me is dead
15:37 rubenwardy true
15:37 NekoGloop linux is crap
15:37 Kacey my friend has an old laptop that runs wme
15:37 OldCoder NekoGloop, you will Linux one day and love it
15:38 NekoGloop nope.
15:38 OldCoder Windows fades away; what are your choices?
15:38 OldCoder You will have Mac or Linux
15:38 Kacey or sos
15:38 OldCoder and a melting puddle on the floor known as Windows
15:38 NekoGloop stay with the windows i have installed.
15:38 * OldCoder laughs
15:38 NekoGloop winXP.
15:38 OldCoder Sure, you'll do that
15:38 OldCoder Now that MS has killed XP
15:38 OldCoder Or is desperate to do so
15:38 Kacey SOS kicks rear
15:39 OldCoder Then I should try it
15:39 NekoGloop i have an install disk of WinXP, IE7, Office 07.
15:39 OldCoder All right
15:39 OldCoder In God's sight, all is well
15:39 OldCoder Ring the bell
15:39 OldCoder You have the hell
15:39 rubenwardy IE7: ew
15:39 OldCoder of Windows 7
15:40 Kacey google chrome now that is awesome
15:40 rubenwardy IE9 "smoked the competition": it crashed and burnt
15:40 NekoGloop this channel should be called #linux-cave
15:40 Kacey how do i download MinGW
15:40 Jordach NekoGloop to #windows !
15:41 NekoGloop Jordach: no
15:41 Kacey got it
15:42 rubenwardy i am actually using Win7 now]
15:42 Kacey same here
15:42 Kacey crap i have to redownload it
15:44 rubenwardy OldCoder: i spend an hour trying to work out why my javascript does not work, it turns out i spelt "gallery" wrong. Bah
15:44 OldCoder Hi
15:44 OldCoder Too bad
15:44 OldCoder Could have been worse
15:44 rubenwardy i dont like mistakes like that
15:45 OldCoder Good
15:45 OldCoder Best to dislike them
15:45 rubenwardy yeah
15:45 OldCoder If you liked mistakes
15:45 OldCoder where would that leave you?
15:45 Kacey could have had a spasm all over the keyboard
15:45 Kacey using windows 7
15:47 Kacey downloading
15:49 Kacey ...
15:49 Kacey ITS THE FINAL COUNTDOWN!!!!!!
15:50 rubenwardy dah de dah duh
15:50 * Kacey actually sang the song
15:54 Kacey me (~troll@Troll.net) Quit (Quit: Trolling. )
15:54 Kacey fraking fail
15:56 Dogzilla131 baby face did the server shut down
15:57 babyface1031 i think it crash again i just got back to the computer and couldnt do anything
15:57 OldCoder babyface1031, Checking
15:57 OldCoder I think I will revert to backup
15:57 babyface1031 ok
15:57 OldCoder Yes; we better
15:57 Kacey the server just crashes randomly
15:57 OldCoder 30004?
15:57 OldCoder We are reverting
15:58 Kacey nooooo dont revert!!!!!!!
15:58 OldCoder Sorry
15:58 OldCoder Little choice
15:58 Kacey how long back?
15:58 OldCoder The world is sick
15:58 OldCoder Yesterday
15:58 Kacey ooh i can live with that
15:58 OldCoder :-)
15:59 Kacey as long as it isnt a week back im good
15:59 babyface1031 i can live with any set back i love this server and the mods :D
16:00 Kacey im gonna make a bot
16:00 babyface1031 and talking of mods i cant wait for the next update to MV of RealBadAngel i love her mods
16:03 NekoGloop her?
16:03 NekoGloop lol?
16:05 OldCoder babyface1031, Kacey try it
16:05 babyface1031 ok
16:05 Kacey im busy making a bot
16:05 OldCoder NekoGloop, it is a manner of speaking
16:06 OldCoder babyface1031, I have reverted both the blocks mod and the world
16:06 OldCoder We will debug this step by step
16:07 babyface1031 i am in
16:07 OldCoder k
16:10 Kacey i give up on it
16:12 OldCoder Kacey, try again later
16:12 Kacey how do i run MinGW
16:13 OldCoder cc hello.c
16:13 OldCoder Don
16:13 OldCoder Done
16:13 OldCoder Or gcc hello.c
16:13 OldCoder Give it time to learn
16:13 Kacey where
16:13 OldCoder ?
16:13 Kacey do i use cmd to do that
16:13 OldCoder yes
16:13 Kacey ok
16:14 Kacey it doesnt work
16:14 OldCoder Kacey, did you install MinGW?
16:15 Kacey i am pretty sure
16:15 OldCoder Apparently not
16:15 OldCoder But do not give up
16:15 Kacey it is traking forever
16:15 OldCoder What is?
16:15 Kacey the download
16:15 OldCoder It will, yes
16:15 Kacey uuugh
16:18 Kacey it (hopefully) is worth it
16:19 OldCoder Kacey, if you are impatient maybe best to save this for another time
16:19 OldCoder Because there are no guarantees
16:20 Kacey im actually very patient but nothing is working on this computer
16:20 OldCoder Sorry to hear it
16:20 OldCoder Boot Linux from a LiveCD maybe
16:20 OldCoder anunakki, hi
16:20 Kacey i dont want linux
16:21 * OldCoder shrugs
16:21 anunakki hey
16:21 OldCoder yeh
16:21 anunakki i have an idea
16:21 anunakki that i wanted to share
16:21 OldCoder oh?
16:21 anunakki know how in minecraft how they have the 4walls game
16:21 anunakki replicate only better?
16:21 OldCoder I don't know MC
16:21 OldCoder Others here do
16:45 Kacey hello
16:46 VanessaE hi
16:46 Kacey how do i run MinGW once i get it installed
16:46 VanessaE no clue (Linux user here)
16:46 Kacey lol
16:46 Kacey everybody uses linux
16:46 VanessaE windows is obsolete :-)
16:47 Kacey not my superior version of xp
16:47 VanessaE heh
16:47 Kacey oldcoder how do i run mingw
16:48 Kacey oldcoder
16:49 Kacey i guess not
16:49 OldCoder Hi
16:49 Lumpio- how do i mingw
16:49 Lumpio- i cant to google
16:49 Lumpio- is too hard pl ztel how 2 mingw
16:49 OldCoder Kacey, Create a file like this:
16:49 OldCoder Lumpio-, chill
16:49 OldCoder #include <stdio.h>
16:49 Lumpio- plz help
16:49 OldCoder main() { puts ("hello"); }
16:49 OldCoder Kacey, can you use Notepad to do that?
16:49 Kacey ya what do i name it
16:50 Lumpio- hello.exe
16:50 OldCoder Lumpio-, I've never kicked anybody from here. But I dislike mockery more than obscenity.
16:50 OldCoder People swear, it's human
16:50 Lumpio- â”(￣ー￣)┌
16:50 OldCoder Kacey, call it hello.c
16:50 Lumpio- I don't really swear.
16:50 OldCoder Lumpio-, that is my point
16:50 Kacey ok
16:50 Lumpio- OldCoder: You honestly think "how do i run mingw" is a valid question?
16:50 OldCoder Swearing is no big deal
16:50 OldCoder Lumpio-, It is not
16:51 Lumpio- Even though it shows obvious laziness and/or inaptitude to use Google
16:51 Kacey where do i save it
16:51 OldCoder Lumpio-, But that can be pointed out without mockery
16:51 Kacey my browser wrecked
16:51 OldCoder Kacey, in any folder that seems reasonable
16:51 Lumpio- If you reinforce bad behavior it never goes awa
16:51 OldCoder Perhaps Downloads
16:51 OldCoder Lumpio-, Agreed
16:51 Kacey bin it is then
16:51 Lumpio- v:
16:51 OldCoder Lumpio-, Mockery is not the answer
16:52 OldCoder Lumpio-, Additionally this is a kid
16:52 Jordach VanessaE - face it: the gamers are windows
16:52 Jordach OldCoder ^
16:52 PilzAdam bbl
16:52 VanessaE Jordach: not for long - Valve/Steam is coming to Linux :-)
16:53 Doc22 Oldcoder where are the worlds saved for singleplayer
16:53 Jordach VanessaE - expect drivers to fail: YES ATI
16:53 VanessaE yup, I fully expect that :-)
16:53 OldCoder Doc22, Inside the folder that has the game
16:53 Lumpio- Solution: no ATI
16:53 VanessaE <Calinou> nvidia 200, ati 0
16:53 Doc22 but which subfolder
16:53 Jordach <teabag/>
16:53 Doc22 like bin?
16:53 OldCoder Doc22, worlds
16:53 Doc22 ok
16:53 Doc22 ohhhh
16:54 Doc22 lol right in front of me
16:54 OldCoder Jordach, Windows owns the video card manufacturers for now
16:54 Doc22 thanks
16:54 * OldCoder chuckles
16:54 OldCoder Yes the in front of you issue happens
16:54 Jordach Noveau will NEVER win
16:54 Jordach hey Muadtralk
16:55 Jordach VanessaE - hows the popcorn fart called Sandy? (note: no offense, just VanessaE called it that)
16:55 OldCoder Muadtralk, Calinou hey
16:55 Muadtralk ello
16:55 VanessaE Jordach: nothing but a memory now. Weather here is more or less back to normal.
16:55 Kacey ok i made hello.c
16:55 VanessaE up in the northeast though? gevalt!
16:55 OldCoder Kacey, at CLI or CMD level
16:56 OldCoder Go to the folder that has the file hello.c
16:56 OldCoder For example
16:56 OldCoder CD \BACON
16:56 OldCoder if you arrive there let us know
16:56 VanessaE (as in, millions were without power after the storm. Some are still without power now. houses and roads demolished, etc etc)
16:57 VanessaE OldCoder: what's with this obsession with bacon anyway? :-)
16:57 Kacey f:/MinGW/bin?
16:57 Kacey bacon is the best thing ever
16:57 Calinou ]didyoumean sandy
16:57 Calinou Did You Mean: "Obama's Loose!"
16:57 VanessaE hah
16:58 Jordach VanessaE did you see obama'sd wake the fuck up
16:58 Jordach -d
16:58 VanessaE ?
16:58 VanessaE no?
16:58 Kacey it is not working
16:58 OldCoder VanessaE, The startupers seem to use it as a metaword like foo
16:58 OldCoder Kacey, What is not working
16:58 OldCoder I did not mean
16:58 OldCoder Literally type CD \BACON
16:58 OldCoder I mean
16:58 OldCoder CD \whatever-you-called-the-folder
16:58 VanessaE OldCoder: I'll stick to foo, bar, baz, quux, ...
16:58 OldCoder Where is the file hello.c?
16:58 Kacey it isnt a cd
16:59 OldCoder VanessaE, we are old skool
16:59 Jordach thats his video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=og35U0d6WKY
16:59 OldCoder Kacey, Now is the time for you to go and Google DOS
16:59 VanessaE Kacey: cd means "change directory", not "compact disc"
16:59 OldCoder Kacey, CD is a command you will learn
16:59 Kacey oooh
16:59 OldCoder Kacey, what folder is hello.c in?
16:59 Kacey bin
16:59 OldCoder On C: ?
16:59 OldCoder Do this:
16:59 OldCoder CD \BIN
16:59 OldCoder Did it work>
16:59 Kacey no f:
16:59 OldCoder ?
16:59 OldCoder Then do this:
16:59 OldCoder F:
16:59 OldCoder CD \BIN
16:59 OldCoder Those two commands
16:59 OldCoder Did they work?
17:00 Kacey yes now what
17:01 OldCoder gcc hello.c
17:01 OldCoder What happens?
17:01 Calinou looks like Kacey is learning to compile on windows
17:01 Kacey nothing
17:01 OldCoder Yep
17:01 Calinou there's an easier way: run a linux distro in virtualbox, compile your stuff
17:01 Calinou 8D
17:01 OldCoder Kacey, Nothing?
17:01 OldCoder Calinou, yes
17:01 OldCoder Kacey, do this:
17:01 OldCoder DIR *.EXE
17:01 Kacey Calinou yes it is a slow process
17:01 OldCoder what do you see?
17:02 Calinou yeah, you need a beefy CPU if you want to play games in your VM
17:02 OldCoder Hang on folks we are nearly done
17:02 Calinou or just install linux in dualboot (or not)
17:02 OldCoder Debate VM later
17:02 OldCoder DIR *.EXE
17:02 Calinou ok
17:02 FreeFull bacon lettuce tomato cheddar pickle
17:02 OldCoder what do you see?
17:02 OldCoder Yum
17:02 OldCoder Food
17:02 OldCoder Kacey, DIR *.EXE
17:02 Calinou OldCoder: windows commands are case insensitive, filesystem too
17:02 OldCoder I know
17:02 Calinou dir *.exe will work
17:02 OldCoder I know
17:02 OldCoder I have done DOS
17:02 Kacey i see alot of code
17:02 OldCoder for 30 years
17:02 FreeFull dir.exe will work too I think
17:02 OldCoder Kacey: DIR HELLO.EXE
17:02 OldCoder Is that there?
17:03 Kacey not found
17:03 OldCoder If not: DIR A.EXE
17:03 OldCoder What about that one?
17:03 FreeFull dir.ext would work in DOS, I don't know if Windows has it
17:03 Jordach <Calinou> looks like Kacey is learning to compile on windows not true. MSC++ FTW
17:03 Calinou MSVC is shit
17:03 OldCoder Kacy; DIR A.EXE
17:03 Jordach Calinou - works for me and the rest of the programmers
17:03 OldCoder *Kacey
17:04 Kacey dir a.exe worked but a couple lines of code came up
17:04 Calinou <microsoft_d00d> hi u have to registr on our websitez to use our compilerz, pls use ur phone number so we can phone u while u code kthxbai
17:04 OldCoder Kacey: RENAME A.EXE HELLO.EXE
17:04 OldCoder We are nearly done
17:04 Jordach Calinou - they dont need that
17:04 Calinou I know :P
17:04 Jordach and for a fact half of them i told them are lies, esp. you.noobs@live.com
17:04 OldCoder Kacey: RENAME A.EXE HELLO.EXE
17:05 Kacey done'
17:05 OldCoder Kacey: HELLO
17:05 OldCoder What happens?
17:05 Kacey same thing
17:05 OldCoder The word Hello is printed?
17:05 Kacey let me check
17:05 Kacey no
17:05 OldCoder Kacey: Type hello and press Enter
17:05 OldCoder What happens?
17:05 Jordach Kacey - the program instantly exiting is a normal bug
17:06 Kacey it said hello back
17:06 OldCoder Kacey, congratulations
17:06 OldCoder You are a 'C' coder now
17:06 OldCoder The hello.c file
17:06 Kacey lol
17:06 OldCoder is 'C' source code
17:06 OldCoder Which simply prints some text
17:06 OldCoder It is not a program but the source code for one
17:06 Kacey wow
17:06 OldCoder gcc hello.c
17:06 OldCoder Made an EXE file named A.EXE
17:06 OldCoder Which you did then rename to HELLO.EXE
17:06 Jordach OldCoder - i learned a few things from Irrlicht
17:07 Jordach and c++
17:07 OldCoder Typing Hello ran Hello.exe
17:07 OldCoder which printed the text it said
17:07 OldCoder Jordach, I will be done here momentarily
17:07 Jordach (any time i use a irrlicht func, using namespace irr; :) )
17:07 OldCoder Then of C++ and Irrlicht speak
17:07 Kacey ok
17:07 OldCoder Kacey, here is one more quick test
17:07 OldCoder notepad hello.c
17:07 OldCoder Change the word to bacon
17:07 OldCoder Save the file and exit. Done?
17:08 OldCoder Change the word hello in the file to bacon I mean
17:08 Kacey done
17:08 OldCoder Now do this
17:08 OldCoder gcc -o bestfood.exe hello.c
17:08 OldCoder That is
17:08 OldCoder gcc space dash o space bestfood.exe space hello.c
17:08 OldCoder Done?
17:08 Kacey done
17:09 OldCoder kacey to finish for now
17:09 OldCoder Type bestfood please press Enter
17:09 Jordach mauvebic - i made a solution to your node problem#
17:09 Kacey sweet
17:09 OldCoder Kacey, sweet and can't be beat
17:09 Kacey now to open that file
17:09 OldCoder Now let people talk Minetest here
17:09 OldCoder I fear
17:09 OldCoder This is not the place to learn C at this level
17:09 OldCoder As Lumpio- said go and Google
17:09 OldCoder But learn a bit
17:09 OldCoder And people will explain
17:09 OldCoder More without pain
17:09 OldCoder Deal?
17:09 Kacey i have to start somewhere with a broken browser
17:10 OldCoder Yep
17:10 OldCoder Let there be Minetest
17:10 VanessaE if your browser is broken, fix it.
17:10 Lumpio- Get an unbroken browser
17:10 Kacey deal
17:10 VanessaE first thing's first.
17:10 OldCoder Kacey, You have compiled 'C' code. Put today on your resume.
17:10 Kacey kaceywater needs bucket code
17:11 Jordach Kacey - making water push things is a LUA job, but slow, but the c?c++ route is better
17:11 Kacey no input file error of course
17:12 Kacey im thinking something easy
17:12 Kacey where it is harder to walk through water_flowing than water_source
17:14 OldCoder mrtux, hi
17:14 mrtux hi
17:14 Kacey hello
17:16 OldCoder mrtux, Kacey has compiled his first 'C' program
17:16 OldCoder I remember doing this with Kenneth
17:17 mrtux ok
17:17 mrtux oldcoder, i'm busy right now
17:17 Kacey come on mingw compile already
17:17 * OldCoder laughs out loud
17:17 OldCoder mrtux, you have entered a channel
17:17 OldCoder People *are* going to speak to you :p
17:17 OldCoder Expect this terrible fate
17:17 mrtux true
17:17 OldCoder Yes
17:18 mrtux dang it
17:18 OldCoder mrtux, talk to Loanshark if you have a chance today about Debian
17:18 OldCoder Minecraft VPS issue?
17:18 * Kacey is getting ready to swing a cactus at the computer
17:18 OldCoder Swing a cactus is quite a picture
17:18 mrtux i can't get Minecraft to run on my computer anymore
17:18 mrtux time to get a new one
17:18 Kacey anger needs props sometimes
17:19 OldCoder mrtux, You have known that for a while
17:19 Kacey i found the cactus
17:20 * Kacey swings the cactus
17:21 Kacey celeron55
17:21 OldCoder celeron55_, hi
17:21 OldCoder All is well here
17:21 OldCoder And we are pleased to have you visit
17:21 Kacey very pleased
17:22 OldCoder Kacey, don't ask him to convert mods for you. Or was that somebody else who said that?
17:22 OldCoder He is here to advise and chill
17:22 Kacey that wasn't me that asked him
17:22 Kacey im doing this myself
17:22 OldCoder All right. Somebody mentioned they'd ask him to make a mod. I don't remember the context.
17:23 OldCoder That was a day or two back
17:23 OldCoder mrtux has a slow PC
17:23 OldCoder Actually runs a VM on it somehow
17:23 Kacey vm?
17:23 OldCoder Virtual Machine
17:23 OldCoder Google VirtualBox
17:23 Kacey ooh
17:23 OldCoder Useful tool. Learn it.
17:24 Kacey ok
17:24 Kacey i got my browser fixed using cmd cuz im boss like that
17:25 OldCoder mrtux, wb
17:26 OldCoder Reboot clear up the issue?
17:26 mrtux dunno
17:26 mrtux probably not
17:26 Kacey lol
17:26 mrtux it is time
17:26 * OldCoder laughs
17:26 mrtux to throw this pos computer into the trash can
17:26 OldCoder I saw that remark coming
17:26 mrtux dat dell dimension 4600
17:27 Kacey i have one of those
17:27 VanessaE throw your POS operating system in the trash then
17:27 mrtux with it's wonderful 512MB of ram
17:27 mrtux VanessaE, good idea!\
17:27 OldCoder VanessaE, He somehow runs Arch under VM under Windows in 512MB
17:27 OldCoder I have no idea how it works
17:27 mrtux Windows XP is crap
17:27 VanessaE 99% of a person's computer problems are likely to be directly caused by a broken OS, not broken hardware.
17:27 OldCoder Yes but mrtux tell her how old this PC is
17:27 mrtux 8 years old
17:27 mrtux maybe 9
17:27 Kacey if i could get SOS on to a git repository u could use it
17:28 mrtux I should install debian gnu/linux on me pc
17:28 VanessaE 8 years? ok so we're talking Pentium4-class, 2 GHz stuff then
17:28 Kacey SOS-Superior Operating System
17:28 VanessaE mrtux: get Xubuntu 12.04
17:28 VanessaE (not Ubuntu, but with the X = XFCE = good for slow hardware)
17:28 * PilzAdam is back
17:28 OldCoder How does that handle slow RAM?
17:28 OldCoder PilzAdam, Hi!
17:28 OldCoder Welcome back!
17:29 mrtux VanessaE, I stay away of Ubuntu type distros
17:29 PilzAdam hi OldCoder
17:29 mrtux Debian is fine
17:29 VanessaE OldCoder: should handle it as well as any other linux distro really.
17:29 OldCoder Good
17:29 VanessaE mrtux: why?
17:29 mrtux Ubuntu is a big no-no in my opinion
17:29 VanessaE I mean if debian works for you, go for it.
17:29 OldCoder What about Zenix? Anybody here try it?
17:29 mrtux Full of crap I will never use
17:29 OldCoder It's Debian tailored for old H/W
17:29 mrtux eh i might try it
17:30 PilzAdam someone seen T_A_N_k?
17:30 OldCoder Last night
17:30 Kacey how do i download virtual box
17:30 OldCoder When NekoGloop started in about T_A_N_K patch
17:30 OldCoder mrtux, help Kacey for just a moment if you have time
17:30 OldCoder He can Google
17:30 mrtux okay
17:30 OldCoder Just tell him the basic idea
17:30 Kacey i can google now
17:30 mrtux Go to http://virtualbox.org
17:30 mrtux download it
17:30 mrtux run the installer
17:31 mrtux allow it to install network drivers and all that other stuff
17:31 mrtux etc
17:31 Calinou <VanessaE> (not Ubuntu, but with the X = XFCE = good for slow hardware)
17:31 Kacey i cant go to virtualbox.org
17:31 Calinou xubuntu isn't really fast, while it avoids eating your GPU when playing games, it uses 10% less RAM than the standard ubuntu
17:31 mrtux I like my Openbo
17:31 mrtux *openbox
17:31 Calinou you'll still need ~1GB of RAM to run it decently
17:31 Calinou (who doesn't have 1GB of RAM today?Ã
17:31 OldCoder He's got 512MB so pretty limited
17:31 Calinou s/Ã /)
17:32 Calinou better run debian testing in virtualbox
17:32 OldCoder mrtux, Google Zenix and check RAM limits
17:32 VanessaE RAM can be upgraded. Even a 2004-era machine should be able to hack 4GB.
17:32 OldCoder Yes; good point
17:32 Calinou debian is good for 1) servers, 2) VMs
17:32 mrtux I don't use Google, OldCoder.
17:32 OldCoder mrtux StartPage then
17:32 mrtux I use the almighty startpage
17:32 mrtux yes
17:32 Calinou for general desktop use, it's not really advisable... eg. it's a PITA to get non-free drivers working
17:32 Calinou startpage FTW
17:32 OldCoder I must say I respect Debian per se more after screwing with it recently
17:33 Kacey freaking ie not working
17:33 Calinou <VanessaE> 99% of a person's computer problems are likely to be directly caused by a broken OS, not broken hardware.
17:33 Calinou if you don't count HDD failures :p
17:33 VanessaE heh
17:33 Calinou which are 99% of HW problems
17:33 mrtux My VPS runs Debian, I love it
17:33 Lumpio- s/broken OS/broken software in general/
17:33 VanessaE heh. I said 99% of *computer* problems, not HW problems :-)
17:33 Calinou Kacey: http://commondatastorage.googleapis.com/chromium-browser-snapshots/index.html?path=Win/ 8)
17:34 VanessaE seeing as how too many people out there equate "computer" with hardware + OS + apps
17:34 Calinou get a real, free browser that is better than google chrome :P
17:34 mrtux Use firefox
17:34 Calinou why?
17:34 mrtux much better than chromium/google chrome
17:34 Calinou it's slower
17:34 Kacey i use gc and my patches on it
17:34 mrtux I don't trust google
17:34 Calinou (eg. have to restart browser when removing/adding extensions, and slower page load in general)
17:34 Calinou chromium is free :P
17:34 iqualfragile no
17:35 iqualfragile not true
17:35 iqualfragile you do not need to restart
17:35 Calinou tune it properly and it won't fuck around with your data
17:35 mrtux Most of the time on GNU/Linux, I just use a command line browser like Lynx
17:35 iqualfragile yaay
17:35 iqualfragile i user elinks
17:35 Calinou (disable third party cookies, and in the "privacy" tab, uncheck the first four checkboxes, check the last one ("do not track")
17:35 OldCoder I use lynx pretty often
17:35 mrtux Dillo is a good graphical web browser
17:35 OldCoder Try NetSurf too
17:35 Calinou CLI browsers, meh
17:35 iqualfragile but on my desktop i use firefox
17:35 iqualfragile and yes its slow
17:35 mrtux >2012
17:35 mrtux >not using lynx
17:35 OldCoder Calinou, well, I also have icecat, midori, epiphany, arora, etc.
17:36 Calinou fun fact: FF's default search engine points to google, and mozilla gets monies when you search using it
17:36 OldCoder Yep
17:36 iqualfragile but i wana see chromium managing 424 tabs
17:36 OldCoder 424 tabs
17:36 OldCoder Whoa
17:36 Calinou midori is good, fast but featureless :P but I like the built-in adblock
17:36 iqualfragile (just installed an addon to count them ^^
17:36 iqualfragile )
17:36 mrtux firefox is a bit bloated now
17:36 OldCoder It is a nice effort
17:36 Calinou "a bit" heh
17:36 OldCoder mrtux, Yes
17:36 OldCoder But it is useful
17:36 mrtux yes
17:36 OldCoder I like having all the browser
17:36 OldCoder s
17:37 Calinou 1.73GB RAM used of 12GB right now
17:37 OldCoder I even have IE6 and IE7
17:37 mrtux OldCoder, do you have dillo?
17:37 Calinou IE... seriously
17:37 mrtux best browser
17:37 OldCoder Of course
17:37 OldCoder I have the latest Dillo
17:37 OldCoder and netsurf
17:37 iqualfragile 600 mb for firefox
17:37 OldCoder etc.
17:37 OldCoder 600MB?
17:37 mrtux Links and GUI Links is nice
17:37 iqualfragile but it goes up to 1.8 from time to time
17:37 iqualfragile ram
17:37 iqualfragile firefox isnt just a browser anymore
17:38 mrtux choosing a browser for me is like choosing a gnu/linux distro
17:38 OldCoder Or an editor
17:38 iqualfragile its a web-development-toolkit
17:38 mrtux Since arch went to systemd
17:38 mrtux me no liek
17:38 Kacey virtualbox is downloading
17:38 OldCoder iqualfragile, Yes
17:38 mrtux okay
17:38 iqualfragile mrtux: its arch, you can use another initd
17:38 Calinou lolarch
17:38 mrtux true
17:38 mrtux I like debian more
17:38 OldCoder mrtux, You've heard Gentoo's position on systemd
17:39 mrtux i want to try slackware sometime
17:39 Calinou http://i.imgur.com/UzT8H.jpg
17:39 OldCoder If things were different, we'd have started OpenLinux by now
17:39 OldCoder Absolute Linux is good too
17:39 OldCoder Or at least friendlier than Slackware
17:39 mrtux even though I am sort of a beginner to GNU/Linux, I don't like newbie distros
17:39 OldCoder Slackware then
17:39 OldCoder I met Volkerding; he seemed pretty nice
17:40 Calinou newbie distros are fine; it's funny to see people bashing them
17:40 OldCoder That's the distro I used for a decade
17:40 mrtux oldcoder, does slackware have a package manager?
17:40 OldCoder mrtux, Yes
17:40 mrtux ok
17:40 OldCoder and the packages are pretty simple
17:40 OldCoder They are just tarballs
17:40 OldCoder No obscenity RPMs
17:40 mrtux you told me to stay away from rpm based distros
17:40 Calinou so I seen this while browsing /r/linux: http://mediagoblin.org/pages/campaign.html
17:40 OldCoder Oh, yes
17:40 Calinou alternate way that doesn't scam you:
17:40 OldCoder Calinou, reviewing
17:40 iqualfragile hmm… i guess debian is switching to systend sometime in the future
17:41 Calinou 1) forward port 80 in TCP
17:41 Calinou 2) sudo apt-get install apache
17:41 mrtux yuck systemd
17:41 Calinou 3) mv ~/my_image.png /var/www/my_image.png
17:41 Calinou 4) ???
17:41 Calinou 5) PROFIT
17:41 OldCoder Calinou, that is interesting
17:41 mrtux calinou, apache makes evils
17:41 mrtux >2012
17:41 mrtux >not using lighttpd
17:41 mrtux etc
17:41 iqualfragile Calinou: not everyone is allowed to forward port 80, i guess
17:41 iqualfragile im using nc as httpd
17:42 iqualfragile beat that
17:42 mrtux nginx is quite good as well
17:42 mrtux my home server runs nginx
17:42 iqualfragile (well, i actualy did that once)
17:43 mrtux my mouse is going bad
17:43 tkln mrtux: the problem i run into with debian every time when trying to use it as a desktop os is that the stuff in the stable is so old that when i absolutely need to use some newer piece of software it requires me to upgarde a lot more stuff and after concidering that i just think that maybe i should just go with unstable. after moving to unstable i find it barely usable due to massive amount of bugs.
17:43 mrtux yes
17:43 PilzAdam <Calinou> http://i.imgur.com/UzT8H.jpg <- is that NekoGloop?
17:43 mrtux i liked arch because of new packages
17:44 mrtux but i don't like systemd
17:44 VanessaE ...which is precisely why I run xubuntu and not debian.
17:44 mrtux i stay away from *buntu disros
17:44 iqualfragile freetard
17:44 Calinou <iqualfragile> Calinou: not everyone is allowed to forward port 80, i guess
17:44 iqualfragile great word
17:44 Calinou then change apache's port
17:44 iqualfragile never heard that
17:44 Calinou (or well, you can use any other web server too, I like nginx personally)
17:44 mrtux people call me a freetard, i know :P
17:44 Calinou xubuntu FTW :)
17:44 mrtux calinou, same
17:44 * Calinou highfives VanessaE
17:45 Calinou xubuntu 12.10 looks awesome
17:45 iqualfragile but the usual user will try to access a severver on port 80 to retrive a website
17:45 Calinou tkln: there's testing, too..
17:45 mrtux yes debian testing
17:45 iqualfragile and some users are not allowed to forward a port at all
17:45 Calinou iqualfragile: get a domain that points to a custom port
17:45 Calinou almost always, if you can't forward ports at all, change ISP seriously
17:45 Calinou I still wonder why not being able to forward ports is legal
17:46 mrtux some dns providers allow port 80 redirection
17:46 mrtux no-ip does
17:46 mrtux but i don't like then
17:46 mrtux *them
17:46 mrtux they spam me
17:46 mrtux they send me retarded emails even though I don't use them anymore
17:46 mrtux and I unsubscribed from their mailing list
17:49 Calinou get a "spam" email and a "real" email
17:49 mrtux yes
17:49 Calinou and blacklist their email too
17:49 mrtux well, it is on an email I no longer use
17:49 mrtux my yahoo one
17:50 Jordach i just hate the OS war in general
17:51 Jordach put yer spyware wherever ya like: i got nothin to hi9de ;)
17:51 Jordach -9
17:52 mrtux i think the government spies on windows users
17:52 OldCoder That's been known since the 1990s
17:52 mrtux yes
17:52 OldCoder Hell, the encryption algorithm is wide open
17:53 Kacey ok what linux should i use
17:53 OldCoder Kacey, you missed much of the discussion
17:53 OldCoder Hmm
17:53 mrtux kacey, debian isn't terrible
17:53 OldCoder Good PC, right?
17:54 Kacey vm
17:54 OldCoder All right
17:54 mrtux try crunchbang
17:54 OldCoder Then you can experiment
17:54 Kacey aah
17:54 OldCoder That sounds like a breakfast cereal
17:54 cosarara97 try mint
17:54 mrtux eew
17:54 OldCoder Mint with MATE
17:55 OldCoder Better than FATE
17:55 OldCoder Of Windows
17:55 mrtux i am not a fan of beginner distros really
17:55 OldCoder mrtux, he is a Windows user
17:55 OldCoder Try not him to confuser
17:55 mrtux yes
17:55 mrtux mint is fine though
17:55 cosarara97 mrtux: he IS a beginner
17:55 mrtux true
17:55 OldCoder Debian, Mint, Absolute, Puppy
17:55 * mrtux is about to throw his computer and mouse away
17:55 OldCoder Are good for the Linux Guppy
17:56 cosarara97 mrtux: why?
17:56 mrtux my mouse is going bad
17:56 OldCoder cosarara97, 9 year old PC with 512MB RAM
17:56 mrtux my computer can't handle minecraft or minetest
17:56 OldCoder VanessaE points out RAM upgrade possible
17:56 mrtux my father is cheap
17:56 OldCoder He is not
17:56 OldCoder You know why
17:56 mrtux should of bought a new computer a while agi
17:57 mrtux *ago
17:57 OldCoder But perhaps Christmas will be different
17:57 mrtux before he was laid off
17:57 OldCoder mrtux, he might not wish family business discussed
17:57 OldCoder Though it is your decision
17:57 OldCoder And to be clear you have done quite a good job making a Decade PC work
17:58 OldCoder I had one that long and the story I'd tell is that it went to hell
17:58 OldCoder In a handbasket
17:58 OldCoder Kacey, quite a few distros will work
17:58 OldCoder have fun
17:58 mrtux puppy is decent
17:58 Kacey uuugh i had it running once
17:58 mrtux and not too big
17:59 Kacey brb
18:00 mrtux i've been through 3 mice the last 2-3 years
18:00 OldCoder LibreOffice takes any font you type even if it doesn't exist
18:00 OldCoder So I seem to be using Tims New Roman
18:00 OldCoder :-)
18:00 mrtux lol
18:00 * OldCoder laughs
18:00 OldCoder And it is quite different from Times
18:00 mrtux my parents need to stop buying el cheapo mice
18:01 * cosarara97 uses a logitech mouse
18:01 mrtux i have an hp mouse
18:01 mrtux my last one was a logitech one
18:01 OldCoder I've got mice from the 1980s but they're serial
18:01 mrtux lasted a year or so
18:01 OldCoder Not much use now
18:01 mrtux the first one was a microsoft mouse
18:01 mrtux it lasted forever
18:02 mrtux my keyboard is nine years old
18:02 mrtux it isn't a usb mouse
18:02 mrtux *keyboard
18:02 mrtux old but works well enough
18:02 OldCoder I replaced the keyboard on my laptop two months ago. The keys all broke last week or the week before. That's when you saw me leave to fix it.
18:03 OldCoder Apparently I use the keys more than most people
18:03 mrtux yes
18:03 OldCoder I told the guy
18:03 OldCoder No cheap sh*t this time
18:03 OldCoder Order me the real thing
18:03 mrtux yes
18:03 OldCoder It's on order
18:03 mrtux sourcemage?
18:03 OldCoder Hmm?
18:03 mrtux i know someone who uses that
18:03 OldCoder Nah
18:03 OldCoder This is a laptop
18:03 OldCoder Oh
18:03 OldCoder ruskie, Hi
18:04 Jordach <OldCoder> Apparently I use the keys more than most people - another reason to buy a DESKTOP
18:04 OldCoder I used them for 30 years
18:04 * mrtux would rather have a laptop then desktop
18:04 OldCoder I bought this laptop from a startuper last year
18:04 OldCoder My first one
18:04 OldCoder Got used to it; love it
18:04 * mrtux likes laptops
18:05 Jordach i wont buy a laptop is because they break easy
18:05 OldCoder Yep
18:05 * Jordach likes saving money
18:05 mrtux buy a durable one
18:05 Jordach mrtux - Acer
18:05 mrtux eew
18:05 Jordach their aspires dont break
18:05 mrtux oh?
18:05 * Jordach is using one
18:06 mrtux i am thinking about getting a thinkpad or some hp laptop
18:06 Jordach http://support.acer.com/acerpanam/desktop/0000/Acer/AspireSA80/AspireSA80sp2.shtml - my little thing
18:06 Jordach (note, i got the best possible addons, card reader, etc.)
18:07 mrtux jordach, how much ram does your computer have?
18:07 Jordach 1gb
18:07 mrtux that's not terrible
18:07 Jordach mrtux if MC can run at 200fps then yes its fine
18:07 Jordach on a agp card
18:07 tkln Jordach: do you base this only on the fact that the unit unit you own hasen't broken yet? because i have come across multiple failed aspire series acers.
18:08 Jordach tkln - dunno, has never fought me over any trouble, even installing bsd was easy
18:08 mrtux OldCoder, are Lenovo ThinkPads good>
18:08 OldCoder I know people who've used them
18:08 OldCoder Can't say though
18:08 mrtux ah
18:09 Jordach Samsung laptops are good
18:09 Jordach i girlfriend had one
18:09 Jordach -i +my
18:09 Jordach and Minetest did not laggggggg
18:09 mrtux i thought they only made *cough* chromebooks *cough*
18:10 Jordach nope.
18:10 Jordach actually i could live on a chromebook
18:10 Calinou acer -- the satan
18:10 Calinou hp is fine, thinkpads work well with linux too
18:10 Jordach Calinou - no kernel panics here
18:11 Calinou as in, the additional keys, backlight..
18:11 VanessaE bbl
18:11 Jordach VanessaE alright
18:12 NekoGloop Meow.
18:13 cosarara97 hi cat
18:13 NekoGloop ^w^
18:13 Jordach points for IPV6
18:13 NekoGloop Automatically done by ipad.
18:14 Jordach s/Automatically/Automagically
18:14 Jordach yes im a grammar n@zi
18:15 mrtux jordach_the_grammar_nazi.ogg
18:15 babyface1031 Is mese the strongest for pickaxe
18:15 mrtux yes
18:16 NekoGloop Unless you have moreores.
18:16 NekoGloop Then mithril is better.
18:16 babyface1031 ooo i have moreore :D
18:16 NekoGloop Gloopores has arol, which lasts for-fucking-ever.
18:16 NekoGloop But is slower.
18:20 NekoGloop Is vanessae still about?
18:21 cosarara97 about?
18:22 OldCoder Present
18:22 OldCoder He is asking if she is here
18:23 cosarara97 <VanessaE>: bbl
18:23 * OldCoder is resting for a little bit
18:23 OldCoder My documents are going well and all seems fine in MT today
18:23 OldCoder I will be back shortly
18:24 cosarara97 k
18:24 NekoGloop I connected after she said that. How am i to know?
18:25 OldCoder NekoGloop, who said that you would know? He was trying to help. Back soon.
18:26 cosarara97 would you have you have preferred me to say "she said she'd be back later before you connected"? :S
18:27 NekoGloop "No" would have sufficed.
18:27 cosarara97 ok
18:28 NekoGloop :3
18:33 Calinou can't connect to your server at port 30003, OldCoder
18:33 Calinou or, did your ip change?
18:33 Calinou <NekoGloop> Then mithril is better.
18:33 Calinou it is not :p
18:33 Calinou slower, but slightly more durable
18:33 NekoGloop Eh?
18:33 NekoGloop I thought it was faster?
18:34 Calinou it's a troll ore :D
18:34 NekoGloop Used to be edible 8)
18:36 NekoGloop Now one must find kalite. :3
18:41 NekoGloop And stop the part-spam.
18:42 Calinou part-spam?
18:42 Calinou you mean, the "changing host" thingie? can't do anything against that
18:43 NekoGloop No.
18:43 NekoGloop I mean "connection reset by peer"
18:43 Calinou shit happens
18:44 NekoGloop Fuck off.
18:44 Calinou no u
18:45 Calinou wait, firing up webchat and seeing
18:46 Calinou "freenoder" isn't an allowed nick :<
18:46 * Jordach registers minetest as a nick
18:50 Calinou no, I don't "connection reset by peer"...
18:51 NekoGloop Calinou: ? The hell do you mean?
18:51 Calinou anyway: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3590 < nice, but unity for gaming... eats your GPU
18:51 Calinou NekoGloop: you said I was causing "connection reset by peer" messages, no?
18:51 NekoGloop I wasnt talking to you.
18:53 NekoGloop Anyway, ironically minetest has become a game made to be laggy on any computer, so who gives a fuck?
18:54 GTRsdk at least it is FOSS
18:54 GTRsdk and runs better than vanilla Minecraft
18:54 cosarara97 It doesn't run slower than MC here
18:54 Calinou http://multa.bugs3.com/minetest/characters/viewcha.php?id=15
18:54 Calinou haha
18:54 Calinou scaled the textures down
18:54 Calinou so fugly :D
18:54 Jordach anyways - im going out
18:55 Calinou by
18:55 Calinou bye*
18:55 cosarara97 D: that thing's horrible
18:57 NekoGloop Minetest is laggy as hell if i compile it myself.
18:57 NekoGloop What magic is done to other versions i have not the slightest.
18:57 Calinou what renderer do you use?
18:57 NekoGloop OpenGL.
18:57 Calinou normally it should be as fast as precompiled..
18:58 NekoGloop Direct3d doesnt leak textures all over the place but crashes.
18:58 NekoGloop Segfaults.
18:58 NekoGloop Calinou: <10 fps
18:59 Calinou weird
18:59 Calinou there has been a change about leaking textures recently
18:59 NekoGloop While i get >50 fps with same settings on OC's build.
19:00 NekoGloop Something celeron fucked with made the game laggy as hell. Either that or my compiler took a crap on the efficiency of the code.
19:00 Calinou or your compiler :p
19:00 cosarara97 what compiler are you using?
19:00 Calinou protip: clang sucks
19:00 NekoGloop MSVC++E
19:01 Calinou a comment in minetest code says so
19:01 NekoGloop Microsoft visual c++ express.
19:01 NekoGloop Version 10.
19:02 Octupus Hellllo
19:02 NekoGloop Goooooodbye.
19:03 Octupus :l
19:03 cosarara97 hi
19:05 babyface1031 hi
19:05 Octupus hi face
19:25 Doc22 Hey oldcode hows the progress on your thing
19:26 Doc22 how many pages have you done
19:26 Doc22 oldcoder *
19:30 PilzAdam bye
19:49 Octupus Hello
19:49 Dogzilla131 hello octu
19:51 OldCoder Back
19:51 OldCoder Doc22, it goes well
19:52 Doc22 great
19:52 Doc22 good to hear
19:52 OldCoder Octupus, I've reverted the Octublocks temporarily because world 30004 was failing. We'll research the matter further.
19:53 Octupus Ok
19:53 Octupus Thank you for notifying me
19:55 OldCoder Sure
19:55 OldCoder If the world works for a day or two, we upgrade the mod again. The results then will be clues.
20:01 babyface1031 wb Octupus
20:04 babyface1031 i tried to tell you about your blocks Octupus but you loged off to fast D:
20:04 Octupus Oh :)
20:06 OldCoder Blocks may not be an issue
20:06 OldCoder We will see
20:11 Octupus Ok
20:35 Dogzilla131 why is the server shutting
20:36 Octupus Idk
20:36 Lumpio- Sandy is drawing close
20:39 xcgurl08 Hi is anyone here?
20:40 Dogzilla131 yes
20:41 xcgurl08 Is there a mod that will add villagers like there are in minecraft
20:41 Octupus Yes
20:41 Octupus No
20:42 xcgurl08 D:
20:42 xcgurl08 Okay.
20:42 xcgurl08 Thanks.
20:46 T_A_N_K I am on a macintosh g4 ppc lol
20:48 RealBadAngel dont you have a chair at home?
20:49 T_A_N_K lol
20:52 OldCoder iqualfragile, Hi
20:52 iqualfragile hi oldcoder!
20:52 T_A_N_K it seems like it's struggling to start minecraft, but the opengl graphics on it are really fluent, i wonder if i can compile minetest.deb for ppc platform :3
20:53 OldCoder Could try
20:59 Doc_ Hey VannessaE can you help me
20:59 Doc_ I don't know how to make ores generate
20:59 Doc_ in a mod
21:00 T_A_N_K_ look at the moreores mod
21:00 Doc_ okay
21:05 OldCoder babyface1031, world is healthy?
21:05 babyface1031 yes working fine
21:05 OldCoder Good
21:06 babyface1031 just quite no one on but me :(
21:06 OldCoder We can update Octublock again tomorrow or Tuesday
21:06 babyface1031 ok
21:06 OldCoder babyface1031, Kacey left, then
21:06 OldCoder Do not worry
21:06 babyface1031 yeah
21:06 OldCoder Then if crashes come back
21:06 OldCoder We will know it is mod
21:06 OldCoder See idea?
21:06 Doc_ where is the modding api again
21:06 babyface1031 yeah
21:06 OldCoder api.minetest.net ?
21:06 OldCoder cornernote put it up
21:06 OldCoder He has asked me to host
21:07 OldCoder So it may move
21:07 Doc_ ok
21:11 T_A_N_K one small step, every dependancy for minetest building is there, except libjpeg8-dev which i used libjpeg62, so that's one small step..
21:11 OldCoder If you rebuild Irrlicht that inconsistency tends to go away
21:12 OldCoder But you don't need to
21:12 T_A_N_K why would i rebuild irrlicht?
21:15 T_A_N_K building :o
21:16 Octupus :0
21:23 Doc_ what is the item name for the wooden door
21:23 Doc_ default:????
21:24 Octupus Default:door
21:24 Octupus I believe
21:25 Doc_ thank
21:25 Doc_ thanks*
21:25 Octupus No
21:25 Octupus No
21:25 Octupus No.
21:25 Octupus No problem
21:25 T_A_N_K 58%
21:27 Muadtralk door:door
21:28 Muadtralk dor isnt in the default mod
21:28 Muadtralk door*
21:28 Doc_ gtg bye
21:30 T_A_N_K wait a second
21:30 T_A_N_K sprites can load textures right?
21:33 OldCoder T_A_N_K, to fix various problems
21:33 T_A_N_K so they can?
21:41 Octupus Lalalala
21:43 Octupus I'm bored :-/
21:43 T_A_N_K that's weird lol
21:43 T_A_N_K it opens up, but i guess it needs libjpeg8
21:44 OldCoder Octupus, Build?
21:44 OldCoder Octupus, you have learned mods
21:44 OldCoder And become a manager of worlds
21:44 OldCoder There should also be time
21:44 OldCoder To simply relax
21:44 OldCoder Why not go build
21:44 Octupus I didn't write the mods :l
21:44 OldCoder How much of the blocks did you do?
21:45 Octupus 36 +
21:45 OldCoder I mean...
21:45 OldCoder Did you write the mod? it counts
21:45 Octupus 40 blocks
21:45 OldCoder Anyway, why not go build the castle up?
21:45 OldCoder Put stuff in it
21:45 Octupus Colloquy :/
21:46 OldCoder Oh!
21:46 OldCoder And we do not yet have phone to MT gateways :-)
21:46 Octupus Nope:)
21:46 OldCoder Perhaps read a book or write one?
21:47 OldCoder There are good books online
21:47 Octupus I still haven't even started the army story I wante to write
21:51 NekoGloop I FOUND DIAMONDZ. :D
21:51 TheSlimShady cool story fag not wtfu
21:51 Octupus GREAT
21:51 TheSlimShady stfu*
21:51 TheSlimShady hi Octupus i miss you why havent you passed to the server??
21:51 NekoGloop TheSlimShady: new kids should keep their mouths shut.
21:51 TheSlimShady im LandMine :) ..............your the NewPhag for all i know hahahaahha
21:52 Octupus Lolz
21:52 Octupus I haven't been around LM
21:52 NekoGloop haha.
21:52 TheSlimShady its all cool Octupus
21:52 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWEQf_KrmXY
21:52 Octupus Because I been doing ma mod
21:52 TheSlimShady yeah i have seen it, its comming along well
21:52 Octupus Thanks:)
21:53 T_A_N_K Look out for that apple
21:53 NekoGloop TheSlimShady: you do know that we still havent forgotten what you've done?
21:53 T_A_N_K OH GOD NAOPGSJKL:Ah
21:53 Octupus Lm il come on to check later
21:53 TheSlimShady i dont give 2 shits about you NekoGloop now stfu and let me talk to Octupus
21:53 TheSlimShady ok
21:53 Octupus Did u see my ship?
21:54 TheSlimShady i uhhh took your privs though hehehe
21:54 TheSlimShady on my server?
21:54 Octupus Yes
21:54 TheSlimShady no where?
21:54 NekoGloop Greifers gonna greif.
21:54 Octupus Idk how to explain
21:55 TheSlimShady well must be cool...ill realease the server map soon
21:55 Octupus Cool
21:55 TheSlimShady yeah......like on the 13 or 14th or something
21:55 Octupus U revoke my privs?
21:55 TheSlimShady yeah
21:55 NekoGloop Octupus: you thought the parkour map's maze was hard? you should see my mineshaft. 8)
21:55 Octupus :P
21:56 Octupus Why eminem?
21:56 TheSlimShady nothing personal lol...but you never came back so i was like ill take them if comes bck ill give them
21:56 OldCoder I am going for cola and will bbs
21:56 Octupus bye coder
21:56 Octupus Lolz Kay
21:56 OldCoder <--- a little dehydrated and will come back
21:57 Octupus Lm il show u where l8er but I need u to place some jets on it :)
21:57 TheSlimShady ohh hi jordan4ibanez i like your gamemode thought generating flatland seems to be slow at least on my pc
21:57 TheSlimShady ohhhh you mean that?
21:57 TheSlimShady so you were the guy who copied my jet?
21:57 TheSlimShady lol
21:57 Octupus Maybe :|
21:57 jordan4ibanez thanks, i took that poop out mang
21:58 TheSlimShady you ruined my original jet lol
21:58 Octupus That wasn't ne
21:58 Octupus *me
21:58 TheSlimShady well someone copied it and loaded it aside the original and they collieded
21:58 TheSlimShady its ok if it was you, i fixed it
21:58 Octupus Wasn't me
21:58 TheSlimShady i have a schem of the jet
21:59 TheSlimShady ohh ok
21:59 Octupus I placed it far away from there
21:59 TheSlimShady ok i beleave you
21:59 NekoGloop TheSlimShady: well, might as well show you this: http://ompldr.org/vZzVhbQ
21:59 NekoGloop Goes for everyone else too.
21:59 NekoGloop GloopTest updated :3
21:59 Octupus What's it do?
21:59 Octupus Is it a new build
22:00 NekoGloop no
22:00 NekoGloop it's a texture pack
22:00 Octupus O
22:00 TheSlimShady its ugly like your face NekoGloop now stfu
22:01 Octupus *no comment*
22:01 jordan4ibanez brb wieners
22:02 Octupus So LM how's it going
22:02 NekoGloop you cant even legitimatly make such an arguement.
22:02 NekoGloop seeing as you dont know what my face looks like.
22:03 TheSlimShady NekoGloop i have taken the time to findout alot about everyone heh, trust me i can make that statement.....and im ok octupus
22:03 TheSlimShady just chillin
22:03 TheSlimShady school
22:03 Octupus Cool
22:03 TheSlimShady and such
22:03 TheSlimShady how about you?
22:03 TheSlimShady what evern happened to LAD
22:04 Octupus He's around
22:04 NekoGloop TheSlimShady: except that there is no evidence of my face anywhere that you could have possibly linked to me,
22:05 TheSlimShady cool...
22:06 Octupus I been good 2 just dealing with mods when I can :)
22:07 TheSlimShady NekoGloop trust me when i say that there is.....and luck with the rest of your mods octupus
22:07 Octupus Gracias
22:08 NekoGloop you amuse me.
22:09 NekoGloop do note that there are two people on the internet who use the name "GloopMaster" ;)
22:09 babyface1031 anyone know of a good texture pack to see gloopores in cobble better?
22:09 NekoGloop babyface1031: ?
22:09 NekoGloop gloopores dont generate in cobble, how could they?
22:10 babyface1031 stone sorry
22:10 NekoGloop :3
22:11 NekoGloop well you could use default, dokutest, or my texture pack: http://ompldr.org/vZzVhbQ
22:11 Octupus Rawr
22:11 babyface1031 i cant see them till i get right up on them all i see is 3 tiny lines
22:11 Octupus *Dinosaur*
22:12 NekoGloop babyface1031: well you could use default, dokutest, or my texture pack: http://ompldr.org/vZzVhbQ
22:13 babyface1031 ok ty
22:14 OldCoder Bach
22:14 Octupus Hello coder
22:14 NekoGloop Sebastian?
22:16 Octupus Brb gonna walk dog then I get the pc :D
22:16 * Octupus is away
22:21 NekoGloop now i have a gwinder! :D
22:21 OldCoder Gwinder and a binder will be complete
22:22 OldCoder Don't minder me
22:22 OldCoder Preoccupied he sighed
22:22 TheSlimShady wth
22:23 OldCoder TheSlimShady, Shady Slim my name ain't Jim pleased to meet you
22:23 NekoGloop with the horses.
22:23 OldCoder Of courses
22:30 * mrtux is watching Star Wars telnet edition on his Windows NT 4 Workstation VM
22:30 TheSlimShady uuuuuuu i used to do that on XP, then i started to like women
22:30 mrtux lol
22:32 NekoGloop ignore landmine, mrtux.
22:32 mrtux oh that's landmine?
22:32 TheSlimShady yup
22:32 NekoGloop yep.
22:33 TheSlimShady well he laughed so he cant take it back :)
22:33 NekoGloop i laugh at your stupidity as well.
22:34 TheSlimShady sure you do NekoGloop
22:39 * Octupus is back
22:42 NekoGloop OH how i wish we could have shift-click in the inventory >.<
22:42 Octupus Y
22:42 NekoGloop rather than manually click and drag things out of chests?
22:43 Octupus O
22:44 Octupus Going on pc
22:44 Octupus Theslimshady: comin on now
22:46 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlY-oe37x_c&feature=g-vrec
22:46 Octupus TheSlimShady: Te gusts chic aristo
22:46 Octupus *chicarito
22:47 TheSlimShady i think you mean chicharito the football player
22:47 TheSlimShady right?
22:48 TheSlimShady i think you mean chicharito the football player
22:48 TheSlimShady * Octupus (~octupus@208.168.226.239) has left #minetest
22:48 TheSlimShady <TheSlimShady> right?
22:48 TheSlimShady Octupus
22:48 TheSlimShady Octupus_
22:48 Octupus_ yes
22:48 TheSlimShady no i dont lol
22:49 Octupus_ lol why?
22:50 TheSlimShady hes not that god
22:50 TheSlimShady good
22:50 TheSlimShady its all marketing
22:50 Octupus so who u like the best?
22:50 TheSlimShady football? van persi
22:50 Octupus He plays for manechester now
22:51 TheSlimShady yeah
22:51 Octupus used to play with arsensal
22:51 Octupus and what is ip for your server
22:52 TheSlimShady planetminetest.com its that
22:52 Octupus ok coming on now :)
22:52 Octupus My favorite is Ibrah
22:52 Octupus Boss
22:52 TheSlimShady dunno who that is lol
22:53 Octupus lol go onto internet and type in Ibrahmovic
22:53 TheSlimShady ohh ihave seen his image lol
22:53 Octupus he a boss :)
22:57 NekoGloop TheSlimShady: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6MltGHO-lE&feature=related
22:57 TheSlimShady only faggs watch anime
22:57 TheSlimShady except octupus lol
22:58 Octupus i dont watch anime :l
22:58 Octupus lm i got threat on the server
22:58 NekoGloop how many idiots are going to say this is anime?
23:03 Kacey hello
23:03 OldCoder Kacey, Hi
23:03 Octupus Hi Kacey
23:03 Kacey i downloaded virtual box
23:04 Octupus cool
23:04 TheSlimShady cool story Kacey you griefing scum
23:04 NekoGloop Irony ^
23:04 Kacey what
23:04 NekoGloop scum calling civilized people scum.
23:04 NekoGloop Irony, i detect it.
23:05 Kacey aah i see it
23:05 OldCoder NekoGloop, you are out spoken to be sure
23:05 TheSlimShady lol
23:05 NekoGloop OldCoder: ?
23:05 OldCoder NekoGloop, nothing; just musing
23:05 OldCoder About the best path to take
23:05 OldCoder Problem is, I am preoccupied
23:05 NekoGloop no, the best path to take is /ban TheSlimShady.
23:05 NekoGloop 8)
23:06 TheSlimShady i think what he means is you have a small pee pee
23:06 OldCoder NekoGloop, that opens a whole new set of issues
23:06 NekoGloop your dick is only bigger because you are one.
23:06 Octupus oh shit XD
23:06 OldCoder If there is any way to work things out that wouldd be good
23:06 * OldCoder sighs
23:06 OldCoder If I kicked both of you for like 5 minutes would you be pissed?
23:06 NekoGloop OldCoder: with LandMine? You kidding me right?
23:06 OldCoder I won't I think
23:07 OldCoder The issue is control
23:07 OldCoder Ironically I am writing 90 pages right now
23:07 Kacey oldcoder
23:07 OldCoder Elsewhere that comes down to that
23:07 OldCoder Kacey, yes?
23:07 NekoGloop Trying to set LandMine straight is like trying to make a planet flat. It's not possible.
23:07 OldCoder I am not going to attempt it
23:07 Kacey how do iget this vm to work
23:07 TheSlimShady same with your small pee pee
23:08 OldCoder Kacey, speak with mrtux today
23:08 NekoGloop Also, he shows his maturity very clearly.
23:08 Kacey how?
23:08 OldCoder Time will not permit much direct work
23:08 OldCoder I will see if he is around
23:08 Kacey k
23:08 Octupus :l
23:08 OldCoder Octupus, Hi
23:08 Octupus Hello
23:08 OldCoder Kacey, I have PMd
23:09 OldCoder If he stops by I'll ask him to tell you more
23:09 TheSlimShady NekoGloop how old are you?
23:09 NekoGloop HAHA as if I'd tell you.
23:09 NekoGloop You funny.
23:09 TheSlimShady whats funny about that? elaborate
23:10 Octupus lalalalala
23:10 Octupus downloading mt again lalala
23:10 Octupus when 2 ppl have an arguement are your just like "Oh shit"
23:12 Octupus When minetest is being an ass and your just like "Wtf"
23:12 NekoGloop When someone is being random you're just like "stfu."
23:13 Octupus who u talking 2
23:13 NekoGloop you. :3
23:13 OldCoder Kitty isn't one debate enough?
23:13 Octupus OHH OOHH U KNOW WHO U TALKING OOO U DONT KNOW ME
23:13 Octupus :P
23:13 Octupus Madea :)
23:13 OldCoder Not the Greek Tragedy I assume
23:13 NekoGloop I could uphold a conversation with everyone on this channel at once.
23:14 OldCoder NekoGloop, I don't doubt it
23:14 OldCoder Hmm
23:14 OldCoder Network problem
23:14 Kacey exept me
23:14 NekoGloop Let's hope he doesnt notice he disconnected.
23:14 mrtux kacey, i have sent you a PM
23:14 Octupus lolz
23:15 OldCoder Kacey, mrtux has a few minutes for VM
23:15 OldCoder But he will expect you to carry some of the load
23:15 Octupus hmm i need worldedito
23:15 OldCoder Octupus, in LM world?
23:16 Octupus no
23:16 Octupus i left there awhile ago
23:16 OldCoder I am in a conversation elsewhere for a bit but will return
23:16 Octupus ok
23:20 Kacey octu
23:21 Kacey i compiled a c file today with help from oldcoder
23:21 Octupus yes
23:21 Octupus ok :)
23:21 OldCoder Kacey, you are on your way!
23:23 Kacey i showed that to a kid and he was like if the computer says that it is bacon then it is bacon
23:24 OldCoder Fair nuff
23:25 Octupus Hi LAD
23:25 Kacey im gonna teach my bro how to do it now
23:26 NekoGloop OldCoder: you wouldnt happen to like bacon, would you? :P
23:26 OldCoder NekoGloop, I think I am hungry. But the bacon thing is because it seems to be the new meme for foo.
23:26 LAD heyOCtu
23:26 OldCoder In my day it was foo when you were being general.
23:27 NekoGloop who else thinks the yogscast should play minetest with the technic mod? :D
23:28 Kacey roosterteath crew should
23:28 Octupus Yogcast is the best :)
23:28 Octupus SIMON NOO
23:28 NekoGloop DONT USE THE DESTRUCTION CATALYST HERE!!!
23:29 Kacey OOH WTH MICHAEL
23:29 Kacey GAVIN SHUT UP!!!!
23:29 Octupus XD
23:29 OldCoder ?
23:29 NekoGloop YOU JUST DESTROYED OUR OIL REFINERIES! D:
23:29 Octupus XD
23:29 NekoGloop OldCoder: quoting yogscast videos.
23:29 Octupus i like simon :)
23:30 Kacey YA GAVIN SHUT UP YOU WERE NOT SUPPOSED TO GET THAT ACHIEVMENT!!
23:30 NekoGloop Diggy Diggy 'Ole! :D
23:30 OldCoder Kacey, a bit more softly perhaps
23:30 Kacey SHUT UP GEOFF
23:30 OldCoder I take it these are loud videos
23:30 Kacey very
23:30 Octupus Diggy Diggy Hole :)
23:30 NekoGloop OldCoder: they are usually yelling at each other xD
23:30 Kacey roosterteath almost deafened me
23:31 OldCoder I C
23:31 NekoGloop google yogscast tekkit for an example :3
23:31 Octupus Simon,Lets call this the Yogcave
23:31 Kacey I'LL MAP YOU INTO NEXT TUESDAY!!!!
23:32 NekoGloop XD
23:32 Octupus lolz
23:32 NekoGloop I've only watched their first terraria vid and their tekkit vids :P
23:32 Kacey hey octu
23:32 NekoGloop hm... gives me an idea. Why dont -we- have a destruction catalyst...
23:32 Octupus Yes Kacey
23:33 OldCoder What would it do?
23:33 NekoGloop Digs. A lot.
23:33 Kacey we should make a video of an average day in minetest
23:33 NekoGloop Kacey: lots of diggin'.
23:33 Octupus Lolz
23:33 Octupus not true
23:33 Kacey lol not if there is tnt XD
23:33 OldCoder We do need animation capture
23:33 Octupus Fun stuff on irc
23:34 Kacey lol yelling at landmine
23:34 OldCoder I don't think he minds yelling
23:34 Octupus no :l
23:34 OldCoder Octupus, do not be :l
23:34 Kacey banning landmine
23:34 NekoGloop I'm at -30045, not finding pretty stones! D:
23:34 Kacey lol
23:35 Octupus ok :#
23:35 Octupus :D
23:35 Kacey i made it to the bottom of the world after 8 days of consant digging
23:35 OldCoder How deep?
23:35 NekoGloop I used a teleporter :D
23:35 Kacey -350000
23:35 Kacey and then i fell to the top of the world
23:35 Octupus XD
23:35 Octupus my server?
23:35 NekoGloop YOU FELL UP!?
23:35 NekoGloop WHAT MAGIC IS THIS.
23:36 Kacey octu no
23:36 Kacey neko
23:36 Octupus o lolz
23:36 Kacey i ended up at the top of the world by digging down
23:36 cornernote hiyas
23:36 Kacey hello cornernote
23:36 NekoGloop Kacey: not possible.
23:36 NekoGloop I've done that, it doesnt do that.
23:36 cornernote how'd u do that Kacey ?
23:36 Kacey try it
23:37 cornernote how far did you dig ?
23:37 Kacey 8 days of consant digging and mountain dew
23:37 Kacey -350000
23:37 NekoGloop cornernote: I'm at -30045, not finding any pretty stones... D:
23:37 cornernote we are talking about MT right ?
23:37 Kacey yes
23:38 cornernote i thought it only goes from -31k-31k
23:38 cornernote but i dunno what happens if you go past the end
23:38 Kacey no
23:38 cornernote i think it crashes or something
23:38 Kacey no
23:38 NekoGloop no.
23:38 Kacey you glitch out and end up at the top of the world
23:38 NekoGloop you hit a point where mapgen refuses to run
23:38 NekoGloop basically solid air nodes.
23:39 NekoGloop no idea what Kacey is going on about though.
23:39 Kacey fall for a couple minutes and the coords turn positive and u fall to ur death
23:40 NekoGloop you dont fall at the end of the map.
23:40 cornernote i went /teleport 0,-350000,0
23:40 cornernote im not falling
23:40 NekoGloop cornernote: you'll crash likely in a few minutes.
23:41 cornernote i am at 0,-214748,0
23:41 NekoGloop The Y is too high.
23:41 Kacey you have to dig down there
23:41 cornernote so it didnt take me all the way there
23:41 NekoGloop low, rather.
23:41 cornernote dig from where ?
23:41 cornernote from 0 ?
23:41 cornernote lol
23:41 NekoGloop Kacey: wouldnt make a difference.
23:41 OldCoder cornernote, Hi
23:41 OldCoder cornernote, PM
23:42 Kacey not from 0 just teleport to ooh say 340000 and dig the rest of the way
23:42 NekoGloop I just did the teleport...
23:42 cornernote ok, i had fly on
23:42 cornernote now im falling
23:42 NekoGloop now I'm fallin
23:42 cornernote number is still negative
23:42 Kacey lol see
23:42 OldCoder cornernote, when you can please PM
23:42 NekoGloop and lagging like hell.
23:42 cornernote no lag here
23:43 cornernote ok, lag is kicking in now
23:43 NekoGloop Probably because I have a shitton of windows open.
23:43 cornernote im at -250k
23:43 NekoGloop FPS=0! :D
23:43 Kacey -350k is the bottom of the map
23:43 OldCoder Deep!
23:44 NekoGloop that's what she said.
23:44 cornernote -300k
23:44 cornernote is where i am
23:44 NekoGloop I'm technically already dead.
23:44 cornernote how ?
23:44 NekoGloop Game glitched my health a few minutes ago
23:45 cornernote -325k
23:45 NekoGloop I have no health but death event wasnt called.
23:45 cornernote maybe its due to be called, just lagging
23:45 NekoGloop no
23:45 NekoGloop I mean before i teleported
23:45 cornernote -350k
23:45 cornernote still negative
23:45 Octupus Hi Doc_
23:46 cornernote -375k
23:46 Doc_ hey Octupus
23:46 NekoGloop GAH... PRESS I... TYPE... /...h....o....m....e.........
23:46 NekoGloop T, not I
23:46 cornernote -400k
23:46 NekoGloop minetest world just keeps going IIRC
23:47 NekoGloop mapgen stops sharply though
23:47 cornernote yeah
23:47 cornernote thats what i think too
23:47 cornernote just mapgen isnt here
23:47 cornernote i'll let you know when i hit -1M
23:47 NekoGloop See ya in a few years when lag stops. :D
23:47 Octupus WOW this is going to be a Big Ass Present :)
23:48 cornernote im at -450k now
23:48 NekoGloop lag is likely proportional to how far down you are...
23:48 cornernote wont be long
23:48 cornernote my cpu core is max'd at 100%, but fall speed is not too laggy
23:48 cornernote i cant play, its too laggy to play
23:48 cornernote well, that and there is no mapgen =)
23:48 NekoGloop My cpu isnt maxed.
23:49 NekoGloop but then again, I wasnt falling, my FPS was nil ;)
23:49 NekoGloop cornernote: http://ompldr.org/vZzVhbQ tell me what you think about my texture pack? :D
23:51 cornernote looks cool! nice
23:51 NekoGloop :D
23:52 cornernote personally i like 32x packs, i find they have a bit more room for detail, but they dont suck too much speed from the game
23:52 NekoGloop I tried to do a playground enviroment.
23:52 NekoGloop cornernote: you should try it out ingame :D
23:53 NekoGloop My position as per player file: position = (0,-2.28596e+006,0)
23:53 * VanessaE pokes at NekoGloop for signs of life
23:53 NekoGloop VanessaE: BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAINSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS.....
23:53 NekoGloop :D
23:53 VanessaE you rang?
23:54 NekoGloop You poked me :P
23:54 VanessaE [11-04 13:20] <NekoGloop> Is vanessae still about?
23:54 NekoGloop Oh wait i did want you earlier... Cant remember what for though.
23:54 NekoGloop Sorry :P
23:54 VanessaE :P
23:54 Octupus Hi VanessaE
23:55 NekoGloop Anyway, VanessaE I've updated my texture pack: http://ompldr.org/vZzVhbQ
23:55 VanessaE hi
23:55 VanessaE NekoGloop: use github dammit :-)
23:55 Octupus VanessaE,pm please
23:56 OldCoder VanessaE, hi
23:56 cornernote -850k
23:56 cornernote oh hey - it reset to positive numbers !!!
23:56 VanessaE ok..
23:56 cornernote no, i'm just kidding, it didnt really =)
23:56 VanessaE hi OC
23:57 cornernote -900k
23:58 cornernote with FPS of 65
23:58 cornernote =)
23:58 cornernote wow, its really moving now
23:58 cornernote ok, no back down to FPS=3
23:58 NekoGloop Hey i was at FPS 0 :P
23:58 Doc_ lol
23:58 VanessaE ?
23:58 Doc_ that sounds like my old computer
23:58 Doc_ i have one from 2000
23:58 NekoGloop testing how far down the world really goes.
23:58 Doc_ and one from 2004
23:59 cornernote i guess as you fall it sucks your computer dry trying to mapgen
23:59 Doc_ cool
23:59 Doc_ lol
23:59 cornernote i cant get FPS=0 .. only 1
23:59 Doc_ someone want to play with me
23:59 Doc_ I got a server
23:59 Doc_ and i play legit
23:59 Doc_ no lava/hacks etc