Time Nick Message
00:00 * sokomine nods again
00:00 Uberi the typos would add spelling mistakes in the chat when the player is near it
00:00 Uberi er, I might have accidentally borked the WE queue a commit ago
00:00 VanessaE Uberi: uh oh....
00:05 Uberi nvm, it was just a TYPO ARGGHHHH
00:05 Uberi "quene" -> "queue"
00:06 VanessaE see? I TOLD you the rotate command was busted ;)
00:06 VanessaE it's even affecting your text now
00:07 Uberi <_<
00:07 PilzAdam the typo mob could change the name of blocks, something like "default:dirt" "dafeault:dört"
00:07 Uberi but what does it look like?
00:07 PilzAdam like a typo ;-)
00:08 kaeza ask jojoa to make the names
00:09 * PilzAdam goes to sleep
00:09 PilzAdam bye
00:22 robby214ty hello, will someone please tell me a good server adress
00:23 Uberi hey robby214ty
00:23 Uberi have you tried the list in the multiplayer tab?
00:23 VanessaE bbl
00:23 Uberi or minetest.net/servers?
00:23 robby214ty i dont have one
00:23 Uberi what?
00:24 Uberi how about minetest.net/servers?
00:24 robby214ty i dont have a list in multiplayer tab
00:24 robby214ty oh, thx
00:24 Uberi no problem :)
00:25 proller problem - no direct link to servers from main page
00:25 Uberi aren't there addresses on the list?
00:26 Uberi good news! new WorldEdit queue coming soon!
00:37 harrison_ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K51EZgNYKLM&feature=youtu.be
00:39 Uberi MinetestBot: you slacker you
00:39 MinetestBot GIT: Uberi commited to Uberi/MineTest-WorldEdit: Fix //rotate, improve queue (order now preserved), typos fixed (quene -> queue). 0664cde287 2013-05-30T17:38:56-07:00 http://git.io/dvTa1Q
00:39 Uberi WorldEdit now supports the block queue while using //move
00:39 Uberi also it's faster but you probably won't notice anyways
00:49 khonkhortisan So I don't need worldedit++ anymore?
01:26 iqualfragile_ is it realy needed to provide a server adress? (as in mandatory) i think the masterserver could as well get the ip from the reqest
01:26 iqualfragile_ allso it could be used to abuse
01:27 sweetbomber VanessaE: what mapgen is your server using?
01:27 sweetbomber the terrain is quite impressive, is it using any biome-like mod?
01:41 Exio Never gonna make you cry, Never gonna say good bye, Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you (m)
01:42 ch98 is anyone here good at physic?
01:42 Exio i know 1+1=3
01:42 Exio does that count? :D
01:43 ch98 well, i need someone who can come up with a good reason
01:43 ch98 that propellentless propolution is impossible
01:43 ch98 and i think i misspelled.
01:46 ch98 I got a great idea but noone can tell if it really works
01:50 ch98 My idea is to use a mirror and completly black surface
01:59 ch98 it is a tube with mirror at one end, black ting at other, and light in the middle.
01:59 ch98 mirror will put out more force when reflecting lite then black surface
02:01 ch98 creating force towards mirror without spitting anything out.
02:01 ch98 was this too offtopic?
02:26 khonkhortisan That reminds me of the mythbusters' blowing your own sail episode
02:26 khonkhortisan They put a sail on a boat that already had a large fan on it and went in the direction of the sail, slowly.
02:33 * khonkhortisan nods for dramatic effect
03:45 RealBadAngel khonkhortisan, have you tried to make tabs for UI?
03:55 kaeza oh god
03:55 kaeza http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=92695#p92695
03:55 kaeza hey RBA
03:55 RealBadAngel hi kaeza
03:56 RealBadAngel somebody started talk with a bot, funny
03:57 RealBadAngel wonder how those bots pass registering system
03:59 RealBadAngel but surely its time to change Q&A
04:56 khonkhortisan No, I haven't tried.
04:57 khonkhortisan A spam bot should really spam something that's useful for someone that doesn't live in the immediate area
04:58 kaeza lol I bet you 1000 (Zimbabwean) dollars that this is Ragnar: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=92690#p92690
04:58 khonkhortisan I know that face
05:02 khonkhortisan I'll trade you for a Second Zimbabwe Dollar
05:03 khonkhortisan or maybe I have the conversion wrong, 1 000 000 dollars
05:04 RealBadAngel khonkhortisan, any chance you will try? :)
05:04 khonkhortisan thanks a lot, now I want one
05:06 RealBadAngel with all due respect, outlining sucks. i tried it a month ago and today
05:06 khonkhortisan eew my asphalt and UI are gone
05:06 khonkhortisan yes it does
05:06 khonkhortisan can't get it pixel perfect
05:06 RealBadAngel yeah
05:06 RealBadAngel tabs would be great
05:07 khonkhortisan ModError: Failed to load and run /home/kyle/.minetest/mods/minetest/init.lua Wat?
05:08 RealBadAngel fire
05:08 RealBadAngel kill it with fire
05:08 RealBadAngel and it will work ;)
05:08 khonkhortisan it doesn't exist
05:08 RealBadAngel haha, propably settings
05:09 RealBadAngel refresh them
05:09 khonkhortisan How do I refresh?
05:09 RealBadAngel enable all
05:09 RealBadAngel and save
05:09 khonkhortisan The settings mention minetest as a mod, and another folder I called notmods
05:10 RealBadAngel select world, configure, enable all
05:10 khonkhortisan aha! .minetest/mods/minetest/modname/ moved to .minetest/mods/modname/
05:12 khonkhortisan conflict between doors and common/doors. I haven't run local minetest for a while
05:12 khonkhortisan Now, tabs. To separate the creative inventory by mod?
05:13 RealBadAngel yeah
05:13 RealBadAngel and propably a list of mods to select the proper mods tab
05:14 RealBadAngel you know, less clicks to get what you searched for
05:15 khonkhortisan I want it to search as I'm typing :(
05:15 RealBadAngel due to item preload...
05:15 RealBadAngel it may be glitchy
05:17 RealBadAngel definitely i have to take care of this bitch
05:18 RealBadAngel its friggin funny that process of generatin flat images takes tons of time, while makin them for render is instant
05:19 khonkhortisan that should be fixable
05:20 RealBadAngel looks like in this particular case c55 found out that best entrance to the party is via balcony over swimming pool
05:21 RealBadAngel not so easy but funny as hell
05:24 khonkhortisan Now I don't need my mod -> mods/minetest link anymore
05:30 khonkhortisan I think putting a stack in the refill slot should refill it and immediately return it to where it came from. What do you think?
05:35 kaeza is that even possible?
05:35 khonkhortisan I think not.
05:36 kaeza :/
05:36 VanessaE it used to do that
05:36 VanessaE it was my suggestion that it behave the way it does now
05:36 khonkhortisan no wait, on_move can
05:36 khonkhortisan why?
05:36 VanessaE maybe something different is needed.
05:36 khonkhortisan least suprise?
05:36 khonkhortisan I always drag it back after dragging it there
05:36 VanessaE maybe yeah
05:37 VanessaE maybe just some visual feedback is needed
05:51 khonkhortisan I remember I opened a bag, tried to trash something that was in it, and cleared my whole inventory.
06:09 kaeza ok, time for bed
06:09 kaeza night all
06:23 VanessaE bbl, bedtime
06:23 VanessaE evening, OldCoder
06:56 sfan5 holy shit...
06:58 khonkhortisan <placeholder>
07:00 sfan5 s/<placeholder>/TIL the.xyz uses Piwik with forum.minetest.net/
07:08 khonkhortisan *holy sound* *squirt sound* I would've given links to them, but... ↠ending sentence with ellipsis
07:11 drizz …
07:11 drizz (ʘωʘ)
07:13 sfan5 MinetestBot: explode
07:14 sfan5 :/
07:28 markveidemanis Hello everyone!
07:32 thexyz sfan5: yes, and?
07:33 sfan5 ...
07:33 sfan5 nothing
07:35 thexyz wait, is it a bad or a good thing?
07:36 sfan5 as long as you're not using google analytics
07:37 thexyz FYI, piwik supports do-not-track
07:40 sfan5 really? let me check is there is an option for that in my own piwik installation
07:44 * sfan5 has Do-not-track enabled in Piwik
07:45 ruskie heh I'd rather people use google-analytics then I can just block one domain name on my DNS server and there is no analytics hehe
07:46 sfan5 analytics is not always bad
08:07 daspork So has there been any talk on whats gonna happen with the GUI?
08:08 daspork I only ask because I have plenty of experience with the limitations of the irrgui stuff ><
08:08 daspork Might be something I wanna look at as a contribution.
08:10 daspork Im not asking for permission to work on something I just dont see anything on the forums and I wanna make sure there isnt something in the works somewhere
08:12 kahrl daspork: the biggest thing is replacement of the main menu with a formspec based one defined in lua
08:13 kahrl https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/724
08:17 daspork I'll give it a look kahrl
08:17 daspork And thats why I asked. It's such a large component I dont want to step on toes or waste time.
08:19 daspork Ive actually never looked at embedding lua. Used python.h and boost::python quite a bit though ><
08:40 markveidemanis Hiya
08:46 markveidemanis Hello Calinou
08:46 markveidemanis Is there a method for connected textures?
08:46 markveidemanis i need to find it and adjust the blocks and entities spawned upon the accordingly
08:47 markveidemanis Actually i just want to learn lua :(
08:47 markveidemanis Got a tutorial?
08:47 Calinou no connected textures currently, sorry
08:47 Calinou you can use glasslike_framed for connected-ish glass though
08:47 Calinou (drawtype)
08:48 Calinou also, just search on the forums for a tutorial
09:33 markveidemanis Can someone help me with digilines and wireless on my server?
09:33 markveidemanis It worked then stopped
10:05 markveidemanis clear
10:05 markveidemanis oops, sorry
10:24 markveidemanis Who knows how to make digiline addons?
10:25 markveidemanis I have a request: light block: 3 inputs: channel to listen on; message to turn it on; message to turn it off
10:26 markveidemanis Also another request: make digilines global; so you dont need wires or wireless stuff
10:35 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
10:55 PilzAdam sfan5, pull request @ minetestbot-modules
10:55 sfan5 k
10:57 sfan5 PilzAdam: I don't see what you changed
10:57 PilzAdam useable -> usable
10:58 sfan5 https://github.com/PilzAdam/minetestbot-modules/commit/511426dc17b4790f202f05e789721944cd6ebef9
10:58 sfan5 ^ I don't see it here
10:58 PilzAdam scroll to the right
10:59 sfan5 ...
10:59 PilzAdam its your fault if you have more than 80 characters per line :-p
10:59 sfan5 merged
11:02 PilzAdam the web interface is pretty nice, it automatically forks, creates a branch called "path-1" and sends the pull request
11:02 PilzAdam *patch
11:03 sfan5 yeah
11:03 sfan5 for quick changes this is nice
11:18 markveidemanis Im Back
11:18 markveidemanis Who knows the digiline mod and can make me an addon
11:25 markveidemanis no, that takes ages
11:25 markveidemanis :(
11:31 markveidemanis http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=92734#p92734
11:32 PilzAdam markveidemanis, if you are not patent enough to wait for the mod then nobody will do it for you
11:33 PilzAdam *patient
12:26 markveidemanis IM back
12:26 markveidemanis Can someone explain the moremines mod by lordcirth to me?
12:32 markveidemanis ALso, what would be a good mod for guarding a vault?
12:32 markveidemanis remote mods, any...
12:32 Jordach http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=92739#p92739
12:41 Jordach hmm, i recently got a new desk chair
12:41 Jordach much more comfy now
12:42 Calinou mine's been working 24/7 for 2 years now, but it kinda sucks
12:42 Calinou :3
12:42 markveidemanis Anyone have a copy of mauvemods?
12:43 Jordach NOPE.
12:43 * Jordach asks mauvebic
12:44 markveidemanis Wheres the site?
12:45 Jordach markveidemanis, dunno
12:46 * john_minetest pictures Jordach happily spinning around with his new desk chair.
12:46 Jordach :D
12:46 Jordach hold on
12:58 markveidemanis Take a pic Jordach!!!
12:59 markveidemanis Also, who made the semi-transparent glass and glassframed stuff?
13:00 markveidemanis alpha glass?
13:01 Jordach markveidemanis, RealBadAngel made the glass frames
13:02 Jordach hmmm made transparent textures
13:03 Jordach but of course, der doktor, glibc has to make machine codes
13:05 markveidemanis Wheres the original one? The one RealBadAngel would not stop posting images to and that i requested twice
13:05 markveidemanis I think sfan5 added it to a server
13:06 markveidemanis http://sfan5.dyndns.org:8083/
13:07 sfan5 markveidemanis: not funny
13:07 markveidemanis What...
13:09 RealBadAngel https://github.com/RealBadAngel/technic/tree/indev/framedglass
13:10 markveidemanis thanks
13:12 webdesigner97 hi
13:13 markveidemanis Chrome says OOPS!
13:13 sfan5 markveidemanis: again
13:13 markveidemanis thats that crown symbol?
13:14 webdesigner97 who can tell me why this (http://pastebin.com/e1ixBWDq) script crashes saying "attempt to index global 'chatlog'"?
13:14 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/eC3PeKb.png
13:16 sfan5 Jordach: StreetMinetester
13:16 Jordach haha
13:16 sfan5 webdesigner97: the variable "chatlog" is not defined
13:17 webdesigner97 but what about line 4?
13:17 webdesigner97 sry, 3
13:18 sfan5 webdesigner97: opens the file "chatlog.txt" in append mode
13:19 webdesigner97 Yes. That's how http://lua.sebastian-bechtel.info/textdateien.html explained it.
13:19 sfan5 yeah, and wheres your problem
13:21 webdesigner97 Minetest crashed when my script starts (when a player chats a message) and throws the error I mentioned. Why? Maybe it has something to do with the lua version minetest uses?
13:24 sfan5 webdesigner97: http://pastebin.com/ezxVqGmv
13:25 webdesigner97 oh
13:26 webdesigner97 it says "Permission denied" :O
13:26 sfan5 from what directory do you run minetest?
13:27 sfan5 heres something that should always work: http://pastebin.com/zFLji8XE
13:27 webdesigner97 C:\Program Files (x86)\Minetest
13:27 webdesigner97 ok, thx for your code :)
13:28 Jordach webdesigner97, try just from your desktop
13:29 webdesigner97 With the code you gave me, it works fine :)
13:29 webdesigner97 I just changed minetest.get_worldpath to .get_modpath() :) thx very much
13:29 webdesigner97 afk
13:30 sfan5 webdesigner97: you shouldn't install Minetest in C:\Program Files
13:32 webdesigner97 sfan: why?
13:45 sfan5 Jordach: markveidemanis is about to go higher than you in the JSBombers scoreboard
13:46 Jordach \o/
13:46 markveidemanis miniclip trains!
13:46 markveidemanis :)
13:48 * sfan5 had 88000 crowns in JSB
13:48 sfan5 *has
13:48 Jordach I just found a good song for JSBombers
13:49 Jordach AD/DC - T.N.T.
13:49 sfan5 haha
13:49 markveidemanis OC/DC
13:49 * Jordach forgot why im listening to it in Windows Media Player
13:50 Jordach zing
13:51 sfan5 "markveidemanis bought toxic_bomb"
13:51 sfan5 ^ :D
13:52 Jordach and this is why markveidemanis should use a real client
13:52 Jordach i could just reroute my connection through him
13:52 Jordach and since i see his up
13:52 Jordach ip* i can play as him
13:52 Jordach the joys of BT
13:52 markveidemanis ????
13:52 Jordach bt homehubs can be used by anyone on BT
13:53 markveidemanis okay the do it :)
13:53 Jordach i can in theory use your outgoing as my outgoing
13:53 Jordach <- unaffiliated
13:54 sfan5 aand my connection died @markveidemanis
13:58 markveidemanis Jordach
13:58 markveidemanis Are you on sfan5's game?
13:58 Jordach NOPE.
13:58 sfan5 yes, he is
13:59 Jordach what browser is it coming from
13:59 markveidemanis xD
14:00 sfan5 kill it with fire
14:00 sfan5 markveidemanis: beware, i'll ban you using iptables if you continue
14:01 Jordach see sfan5
14:07 markveidemanis I've taken jodrach!
14:07 markveidemanis Jordach
14:11 markveidemanis how do i send all registered nodes to everyone in chat?
14:14 OldCoder Hi
14:18 Jordach markveidemanis, ew
14:39 STHGOM hi
14:45 STHGOM hi john_minetest
14:48 Jordach sup Calinou
14:51 markveidemanis Hi STHGOM
14:52 STHGOM Hi markveidemanis
14:53 markveidemanis How do i get all registered nodes in game?
14:53 markveidemanis I mean minetest._?_
14:53 sfan5 JSBombers has now been made better, includes Kicking people, Banning IPs [looks at markveidemanis]
14:53 markveidemanis so i can do //lua minetest.chat_send_all(minetest.get___())
14:53 sfan5 ^ Jordach
14:53 Jordach sfan5, yay
14:54 * Jordach evilly laughs
14:54 sfan5 markveidemanis: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L251
14:54 markveidemanis thansk
14:54 markveidemanis Thanks
14:54 sfan5 !ban, !unban and !kick are only available when you're authenticated
14:55 Jordach * john_minetest pictures Jordach happily spinning around with his new desk chair.
14:55 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/dZngcee.png
14:55 Jordach john_minetest, ^
14:55 sfan5 Jordach: :D
14:55 markveidemanis Your left leg i smissing LOL
14:56 Jordach (i made the nodebox a while back)
14:56 Zeg9 Hello!
14:56 STHGOM Welcome!!!
14:57 markveidemanis So minetest.chat_send_all(minetest.registered_nodes) ?
14:57 Jordach http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=92746#p92746
14:58 Jordach btw, that scence isnt rendered
14:58 Jordach thats actually from minetest
14:58 Jordach why make scenes in blender when minetest itself its just as good
14:59 Zeg9 The player is rendered in blender though right?
14:59 Jordach yup
14:59 Jordach for the record, i gimped the player on after renderng
15:06 Calinou [howto: make everything feel faster]
15:07 Calinou set thunar to open directories/files on single click.
15:07 Calinou ???
15:07 Calinou profit
15:07 Calinou :>
15:07 Jordach heh
15:07 Jordach for once i've opened the curtains
15:08 Jordach <- vampire
15:08 Calinou my curtains are pretty much always open unless there's lots of sun
15:08 Calinou (doesn't happen since 2011 when oracle bought sun)
15:08 Calinou :phoronix rolleyes:
15:08 Jordach Calinou, you just described the weather hbere
15:08 Jordach here*
15:09 Jordach someone in #re was making a comment about buying a titan
15:09 Jordach i went full <calinou> </calinou>
15:11 Calinou someone = "Jordach",
15:12 Calinou the titan is useless now, since there's the 780
15:12 Calinou 30% lower price 10% lower perf
15:12 Calinou the 770 is also more interesting than the titan
15:14 sfan5 I need someone to play JSBombers with me
15:15 sfan5 imgur is down
15:15 Jordach works for me
15:15 sfan5 :/
15:16 Zeg9 seems like ompldr is not going to come back
15:16 sfan5 some server named "cloudflare-nginx" says 504 Gateway Time-out
15:16 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/HDhh6LM.jpg
15:17 sfan5 REALLY FUCKING NICE, i.imgur.com works, but imgur.com doesn't
15:17 Jordach sfan5 ragine
15:17 Jordach raging
15:17 Jordach **
15:17 Calinou we see what sfan5 did there
15:17 sfan5 oh now it works
15:17 Calinou people are too scared of reddit :3
15:17 Jordach see sfan5 told you it works
15:18 sfan5 Calinou: how did you know that I clicked on an imgur link on reddit
15:18 Jordach \o/
15:18 Jordach Calinou is a spy
15:19 * Calinou saps Jordach's teleporter
15:19 sfan5 I still need someone to play JSBombers with me
15:19 Calinou sfan5: link?
15:19 Calinou does it play sound?
15:19 Jordach Calinou was killed by Jordach's sentry
15:19 * Jordach teabags
15:19 Calinou Jordach: no, I'm disguised as you
15:20 Jordach <- plays orange box on 360
15:20 Calinou FPS on consoles *genius*
15:20 sfan5 Calinou: http://sfan5.dyndns.org:8083/ ; yes
15:20 sfan5 i need to go now
15:20 sfan5 afk
15:21 Jordach sfan5, im waiting
15:22 Jordach </troll>
15:24 Calinou ah, ok
15:26 STHGOM no one is in the lobby?
15:26 Jordach let's all go to the lobby </repeat=-1>
15:29 STHGOM !up 24.180.96.5 30000
15:29 MinetestBot 24.180.96.5:30000 seems to be down
15:31 Jordach dead as a doornail
15:31 MinetestBot sfan5.dyndns.org:8083 seems to be down
15:31 Jordach and shadowbots not here
15:31 Jordach !ping sfan5.dyndns.org 8083
15:31 Jordach that used to be a function
15:41 Jordach a longstanding bug on the MS Windows bug tracker still hasnt been fixed
15:41 Jordach 1994: Kill Linux
15:44 markveidemanis What does server_dedicated do?
15:44 Jordach swap the places of the two wods
15:44 Jordach words
15:44 markveidemanis and active_block_range
15:44 Jordach dedicated_server
15:45 Jordach active block range is for the amount of distance in chunks affected by abms
15:45 markveidemanis congestion_control_max_rate = 400 ?
15:45 markveidemanis like worldedit?
15:45 Jordach no idea
15:45 markveidemanis server_step?
15:45 Calinou server_dedicated adds "dedicated" flag in server list
15:45 markveidemanis How do i stop people from timing out?
15:45 kahrl active block range also affects in which range around you entities are loaded
15:45 Calinou it is not visible in game, but is visible on http://servers.minetest.net
15:46 Calinou markveidemanis: by fixing your NIC/connection
15:46 Calinou "dedicated" flag is purely decorative
15:46 markveidemanis okay
15:46 Calinou usually you put it when your server is 24/7
15:47 markveidemanis Test my server, will it time you out...
15:47 Jordach john_minetest, because they made an OS that just works
15:47 Jordach bbl: mortal kombat time
15:48 Calinou actually, they still have huge market shae
15:48 Calinou but less than before thanks to OS X
15:48 Calinou the 90-9-1 rule is now live :-)
15:48 markveidemanis digilines, mesecons, wireless; how many items added?
15:48 markveidemanis I know mesecons 'spams' minetest.register_node
15:50 markveidemanis how much do the mods slow minetest down?
15:51 Calinou they don't
15:51 Calinou it depends on how "complicated" is their code in general, and how much stuff they do real time
15:52 Calinou mods like moreblocks do not slow down the game at all, except at loading
15:54 sfan5 now I need someone to play JSBombers
15:54 sfan5 ^ Jordach, Calinou, john_minetest
16:06 markveidemanis sfan5..
16:08 RealBadAngel every mod slows down game, but in different way
16:09 sfan5 john_minetest: use chrome
16:09 RealBadAngel some only at loading time, some at generating terrain, some like technic and mesecons during gameplay
16:09 sfan5 john_minetest: Firefox lags on my firends pc too
16:10 sfan5 john_minetest: then Chromium
16:11 Calinou inb4 prescott
16:11 Calinou it has adblock
16:11 Calinou noscript is useless today
16:11 Calinou "request privacy"? you can use "do not track"
16:11 Calinou sealthy? salty!
16:11 Calinou well, WTF is that :P
16:11 Calinou a tweaked chromium is pretty good at privacy
16:14 Calinou then continue using slowfox :3
16:14 STHGOM has anyone made a writable book mod?
16:15 arsdragonfly STHGOM :kaeza has
16:18 arsdragonfly https://github.com/kaeza/minetest-kaeza_misc
16:18 arsdragonfly Bookex mod
16:20 sokomine forgot that the old psu i intended to use for my new system for now (until i've set it up completely) has only a 20pin atx connector :-( will that work with the 24pin connector of the new system? the psu is absolutely noname...on the other hand, the new system will have a maximum power consumption of perhaps 60w altogether....when under full load. hm
16:23 sokomine hmmm
16:23 Jordach john_minetest, i have a 3.2ghz P4 with HT
16:23 Jordach and has AMD64 Support
16:24 Jordach except the required NX Bit for Win 8
16:27 sokomine hm, is a p4 still worth running? doesn't it consume too much power when idle?
16:27 Jordach sokomine, its better than bigger octacores
16:27 sokomine well, that's at least something
16:28 Jordach in 24hrs running of this northwood, i use about 1GBP worth of electricity
16:28 Jordach then again, im powering more than that
16:29 Jordach (eg, tv, fridge, freezer, etc
16:30 Jordach “password.†“123456.†“My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die!†These examples are terrible passwords because everyone knows them.
16:30 Jordach the third one? not really no
16:32 Calinou sokomine: never. ever.
16:32 Calinou use a noname PSU
16:32 Calinou the end
16:32 sokomine :-( my old board stated explicitly that it does work with a 20p connector...the new one doesn't. admittedly those old psus are old, and an i5, which could in theory run on the board, would most likely need the 4 additional connectors...
16:32 Calinou go to your shop, return it and get something decent
16:32 Calinou you'll fucking fry your fucking hardware
16:32 Calinou the end
16:34 sokomine the psu in my current machine is quite ok and has everything needed. the new machine will only have a celeron and could in theory be supplied by a pico psu...
16:34 Calinou no?
16:34 Calinou no.
16:35 Calinou sokomine: the wattages don't matter
16:35 Calinou get something real and not noname
16:35 Calinou you'll regret it
16:35 Calinou not to mention it can even be harmful to you
16:35 sokomine the psu in the current machine works ok. and the one i intended to use for test and system installation (celeron, ssd, no external graphics) did power the machine i'm using now once
16:35 Calinou and you have a SSD?
16:35 sokomine for the new machine, yes
16:36 Calinou well you'll fry it
16:36 sokomine only a small one. the old hd was getting unreliable anyway and has to be replaced
16:36 sokomine :-((
16:36 Calinou still
16:36 Calinou get a decent PSU
16:36 Calinou eg. FSP hexa 300W
16:36 sokomine well...i have that one...it's in the machine i'm online with right now
16:37 Calinou it's fine and at least it's safe
16:37 Calinou you can't afford a 30 euro PSU?
16:37 sokomine i have lots of old psus fom p4-times sitting around here. i used one of those some years ago successfully to power the machine here that now carries the decent psu
16:38 Jordach http://imgur.com/gallery/3F0TV
16:38 sokomine more than buying a cheap one, i'm trying to get one that gets along well with low power consumption
16:38 Calinou well, it gets well with low power usage
16:38 Calinou it's not 80+ certified but it has 80% efficiency
16:38 Calinou the PSU manufacturers pay for the 80+ certification
16:38 Calinou so FSP is saving on it
16:39 Calinou also, efficiency will never make you save money :P
16:39 Calinou it can only compensate a tiny bit on high end PSUs :P
16:41 sokomine once the system is set up, it will get the current psu (which is definitely ok). i was just hoping that i could use the old one to install the new system without taking the old apart while the new one wasn't ready yet...
16:43 Calinou well, don't, a bad PSU can take all your hardware away ;)
16:43 Calinou just saying
16:55 sfan5 Jordach: wanna play JSB with me?
16:59 sokomine hi oldcoder
17:01 STHGOM hi :D
17:02 OldCoder Hi!
17:03 markveidemanis I need some advice on mods
17:10 markveidemanis What order are the textures?
17:10 markveidemanis tiles = {top, ??}
17:10 markveidemanis And how do i make it auto-place
17:10 markveidemanis facedir...
17:11 Zeg9 top, bottom, other sides in an order that I don't really know
17:11 Zeg9 I think
17:11 Zeg9 (/me is helpful)
17:11 Jordach markveidemanis, In English: top, bottom, right, left, front, back.
17:11 Jordach thats how the textures work
17:11 Jordach i found that out and added such to the wiki
17:11 Jordach (dev.minetest.net)
17:12 markveidemanis what about facedir?
17:12 Jordach markveidemanis, facedir does not affect the texture
17:12 Zeg9 paramtype2 = "facedir"
17:13 markveidemanis I need some textures for an input box and a sender/receiver
17:14 markveidemanis I have: terminal face, terminal top(stonesquare), sides(stonesquare with the bottom part fainter)
17:14 markveidemanis I need to apply them...
17:14 markveidemanis I know! Steal from computercraft
17:14 markveidemanis http://www.computercraft.info/
17:15 markveidemanis lol soo jealous of that
17:17 * john_minetest waits for qemu support in minetest
17:18 Calinou what about emacs support
17:19 markveidemanis I have a silver and gold textured computer, should i use with or without cursor, and for the keyboard or the terminal?
17:24 Jordach emacs needs to be an os
17:26 frogcrush We need a real os :/
17:27 frogcrush real good*
17:27 Jordach yes, its called DoS
17:27 Jordach an OS is only as good as your needs
17:27 Calinou that's windows 8
17:28 Jordach Calinou, they should have added a touch friendly terminal
17:29 frogcrush Why does everyone think touch is so amazing?
17:29 * Zeg9 prefers mouse
17:29 * Zeg9 prefers keyboard*
17:29 Jordach same here Zeg9
17:29 * STHGOM prefers mouse
17:30 * Morrolan prefers keyboard
17:30 STHGOM same for most things
17:30 * Calinou prefers screen
17:30 frogcrush Zeg9: same
17:30 Jordach play him off touchscreen cat
17:30 markveidemanis im gonna play minecraft to get some ideas
17:30 Morrolan Calinou: Psh, that's overrated. :D
17:30 Jordach theres no music as windows 8 has blue screended
17:30 Jordach -d
17:31 * john_minetest prefers emacs
17:32 * frogcrush likes the interface of dwm on Arch
17:33 frogcrush I just hate how shitty apps look
17:37 Calinou no wonder why you use arch :3
17:37 frogcrush Do you know how to make programs look nicer? Like firefox, etc
17:38 Calinou archers gonna (h)arch
17:38 Calinou frogcrush: by making them fully keyboard-controlled!
17:38 frogcrush Calinou: You srs or just trolling?
17:39 Calinou trolling
17:40 frogcrush *sigh*
17:43 Calinou after seeing this: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=92768#p92768
17:43 Calinou I don't regret using antialiasing ._.
18:13 khonkhortisan If I can add a name to ip-only servers mentioned in ~/.minetest/client/serverlist/favoriteservers.txt, maybe I should also be able to do so from the client?
18:14 markveidemanis khonkhortisan...
18:14 khonkhortisan yes?
18:14 markveidemanis Wanna join my server to test a new mod?
18:14 khonkhortisan ok
18:14 markveidemanis After i finished messing with it though
18:14 markveidemanis Im making a formspec
18:14 markveidemanis well, making it bigger
18:14 khonkhortisan I'm making a mod update script, and I'm at the point of trying to get git to not ask for password.
18:18 ShadowNinja khonkhortisan: shttp?
18:18 ShadowNinja (Or git://)
18:20 Jordach khonkhortisan, traxie21 made one
18:24 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/Uyxhfb7.png
18:24 * ShadowNinja too.
18:25 khonkhortisan mugen?
18:26 Jordach john_minetest, GIMP
18:26 Jordach and a blender
18:26 Jordach i then remove the grey backgroun Blender makes from renderes
18:26 Jordach renders
18:26 Jordach **
18:27 Jordach idiots:
18:27 Jordach <minetest46> <BenAmaranth> Well for multiplayer I use 4.6
18:27 Jordach <minetest46> <BenAmaranth> Singleplayer Im still using 4.5
18:27 Jordach 0. prefixes please
18:27 STHGOM you know what they mean do you not?
18:30 khonkhortisan lol just tell it to not add a background
18:31 Jordach khonkhortisan, i dont like the camera
18:31 Jordach (eg, the add > camera)
18:31 khonkhortisan huh?
18:31 Jordach i prefer viewpoint renders
18:31 Jordach i might have misread
18:31 khonkhortisan what, you're doing a screenshot instead of a render?
18:32 Jordach khonkhortisan, no
18:32 Jordach theres a button to render the active viewport
18:32 Jordach (3d view0
18:32 Jordach )*
18:32 khonkhortisan oh that. There's a button to center the camera on the active viewport.
18:32 khonkhortisan And another button to add transparency
18:40 * STHGOM is playing on http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=1380
18:40 STHGOM anyone want to join me?
18:43 Calinou >2013
18:43 Calinou >0.3.1
18:43 STHGOM ?
18:43 Jordach LOL
18:43 STHGOM you are the cool guy in the armor
18:45 STHGOM in the middle :D
18:45 Calinou lol
18:45 Calinou Jordach, why lol :P
18:46 Jordach meh
18:46 markveidemanis How do i change a formspec without leaving the game?
18:46 Jordach you cant
18:46 Jordach formspecs are attached to one node
18:47 khonkhortisan You can, you need to make your mod capable of reloading itself, or have a function to update the formspec.
18:51 Calinou http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=92777#p92777
18:51 Calinou randeon graphics, 19000mhz
18:51 Calinou GENIUS
18:52 Calinou also, that sentence makes more sense than me: "I don't think its my CPU because I'm running on a Windows 8 laptop."
18:52 khonkhortisan That's the same sentence I would've quoted.
18:53 Calinou anyway, no idea why they have this problem
18:54 markveidemanis Who can fix my formspec? :(
18:54 markveidemanis 2 lines
18:54 khonkhortisan Any chance we can get a horizontal scrollbar on the server list?
18:56 markveidemanis khonkhortisan >> PM
18:57 khonkhortisan it could also be taken to mean it's not the cpu that's the problem, it's the operating system
18:58 Calinou john_minetest, windows 8 is much lighter than windows 7
18:58 Calinou it is as light as ubuntu
18:58 Calinou khonkhortisan, unlikely
19:00 FreeFull Ubuntu isn't very light
19:03 Calinou_ back
19:03 Calinou_ john_minetest, to be honest, I'd say "insanely old and low end CPU"
19:03 MinetestBot GIT: proller@github.com commited to minetest/minetest: Liquid adjusting: continue to drop 6b2c46c431 2013-05-31T11:59:09-07:00 http://git.io/Ctsf3A
19:03 Calinou_ anything < nehalem is really slow by today's standards
19:04 Calinou_ but still usable for web browsing or stuff like that
19:04 FreeFull Falling water sources would be interesting
19:04 Calinou_ yeah, it can
19:04 Jordach john_minetest, http://i.imgur.com/vRsqmro.gif
19:04 Calinou_ my old laptop runs minetest at 30-40 FPS, some mobile C2D + a 9600M...
19:05 Calinou_ Jordach, aww
19:05 Jordach wait, Calinou_ has old hardware
19:05 Jordach \o.
19:05 Jordach \o/
19:05 Jordach john_minetest, http://i.imgur.com/VDpToxJ.png
19:06 Calinou Jordach, no :P
19:06 Calinou I probably have the newest here ._.
19:06 proller FreeFull, i start work on falling water sources
19:07 FreeFull It would make flooding a lot easier
19:07 FreeFull I don't know if falling lava sources would be evil or not
19:07 FreeFull Probably would be evil
19:09 STHGOM MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!!!!!
19:10 STHGOM how complicated is water in minetest?
19:10 proller now with enabled liquid_finite lava slowly drops like falling
19:12 STHGOM heehee
19:13 STHGOM how does the finite water work?
19:32 Issa hello
19:32 Issa how speed movement please ?
19:33 Issa im here --> http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Server_commands
19:33 Issa but no way to mke speed moving ?
19:33 Calinou in singleplayer?
19:33 Calinou /grant singleplayer all
19:33 Calinou then press J
19:33 Calinou then hold E to run fast
19:33 Calinou or press K to fly
19:37 Anvilex Hello everybody
19:38 Calinou hi nyuszika7h, didn't know you were in this channel too :P
19:38 Calinou dat pdpc supporter
19:38 nyuszika7h lol, hi Calinou
19:39 Anvilex Does anyone have PilzAdam's farming mod installed?
19:39 PilzAdam yes :-)
19:39 Calinou not anymore, it is in default now
19:39 Anvilex Hi! :D
19:40 Calinou hi
19:40 Anvilex Maybe I've got the wrong version then.. Since when?
19:41 Calinou latest git
19:41 Calinou that is, after 0.4.6
19:41 Calinou if you use 0.4.6 it isn't built-in
19:41 Anvilex Oh okay
19:41 Anvilex What were the farming and farming-plus supposed to be renamed to?
19:44 Anvilex They weren't showing up in game.. No errors or anything, so I thought it was a renaming issue. And I would've posted in the forums, but it seems like I got ip banned >:
19:46 Calinou do you use 0.4.6 or a recent build such as git?
19:46 Calinou you need to put mods in (minetest directory)/mods now
19:46 Calinou and enable them in the "Configure" dialog
19:48 Anvilex In credits it says 0.4.6, and I got it two days ago from http://minetest.net/download.php with the installer
19:48 Calinou ah, you got 0.4.6 then
19:49 Calinou how are you installing the mod?
19:50 Anvilex I downloaded from the farming zip, moved the insides to the mods folder and renamed it to farming. The same with farming plus and renamed the folder to farming-plus
19:50 Anvilex From the download links in the forum posts
19:50 STHGOM mods/minetest?
19:50 Anvilex Yup
19:51 STHGOM what kind of map are you trying it on?
19:51 Anvilex Survival
19:52 Anvilex farming and farming-plus is right? D:
19:54 Calinou Anvilex, make sure you renamed the directory
19:54 Calinou "farming" and "farming_plus" respectively
19:54 Calinou and when you open them, the init.lua file should be visible directly
19:54 Calinou they shouldn't be in another directory inside them
19:57 Anvilex Oh okay, It might have been the underscore then, derp.. I also wanted to post on the forums and ask if putting the renaming rules in the mod readme.txt's and the submissions posts could become a sort of rule xD To keep folks from doing it wrong
19:57 Anvilex Renaming and trying now
19:58 Calinou the folders are renamed by github automagically
19:59 Calinou can't do anything against that
19:59 Anvilex Noway D< Why didn't it rename mine? xD Oh well
20:02 Anvilex Hm.. Still not working. There's nothing showing up in the configuration screen either
20:02 Anvilex Mod:N/A it says
20:02 Calinou see this by the way: http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/installing_mods
20:03 Calinou Anvilex, click "enable all" then "save"
20:04 Anvilex I'm only seeing Mod:N/A, Add Ons and nothing underneath, depends on: and a blank area, and is required by: and a blank area, no enable all
20:05 Calinou oh
20:05 Calinou then it isn't installed properly
20:05 Anvilex The mod, or minetest?
20:06 Anvilex I'll redownload the mod and start over :L
20:06 frogcrush Meow
20:10 STHGOM bye
20:11 Calinou gtg, night
20:13 Anvilex Does anyone else have the farming mod installed on 0.4.6? ._. Can you tell me what the mod folders are named?
20:13 Jordach Anvilex, wait until 0.4.7
20:13 Jordach for now, just leave it
20:17 Anvilex Oh well, I guess I'll have to.. :P Was it literally part of his mod that got added to the game?
20:18 Anvilex If it was, thanks for the new feature Adam! :D
20:42 sfan5 good night
20:47 ShadowNinja thexyz: I made paste flood protection more lenient. I also re-added regular message flood protection, the only thing that the old plugin still offered.
20:54 thexyz good
22:04 STHGOM does 3.1 always have fly,fast?
22:04 Jordach_ yrd
22:04 Jordach_ yes
22:04 Jordach_ and its 0.3.1
22:05 STHGOM :(
22:41 kaeza greetings
22:41 STHGOM hi
22:41 STHGOM you changed you signature D:
22:42 STHGOM can someone help me with a greifer problem on redcrab.suret.net port 30031?
22:44 ShadowNinja STHGOM: Nobody here, maybe Sokomine when she comes online.
22:44 STHGOM ok
22:46 kaeza <STHGOM> you changed you signature D: <-- is that for me?
22:46 kaeza hey Shadow
22:47 ShadowNinja Hello!
22:48 STHGOM yea
22:48 Kacey i had a good idea for the new mapgen
22:48 Kacey brb
22:52 Kacey back
22:55 STHGOM ...and there is no PvP for 0.3.1 is there?
22:57 Jordach_ yes Kacey
23:01 Kacey natural volcanoes
23:06 bcnjr5 It worked?
23:07 bcnjr5 Wow...
23:14 PilzAdam wtf is this: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=92797#p92797
23:16 STHGOM O_O
23:16 bcnjr5 Parody?
23:16 bcnjr5 I really hope that's a joke.
23:17 kaeza ahhh
23:17 kaeza the art of trolling seems to be lost these days
23:18 PilzAdam kaeza, there is hope: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=3616
23:18 PilzAdam try to copy the seed :-)
23:18 bcnjr5 brb, installing Cygwin on Cygwin.
23:19 hmmmm http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2013/05/31/burger-king-creates-hands-free-whopper-holder/
23:19 STHGOM well cya later
23:20 kaeza PilzAdam, what seed? https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/100008207/Captura%20de%20pantalla%20de%202013-05-31%2020%3A20%3A02.png
23:20 kaeza :D
23:21 PilzAdam your browser is broken
23:21 PilzAdam you should use IE
23:22 bcnjr5 I just installed Cygwin on WINE, which is on Cygwin. Now I will install minetest.
23:23 kaeza bcnjr5, wut
23:24 bcnjr5 kaeza: I installed A Linux emulator on a Windows emulator on a Linux emulator.
23:25 bcnjr5 my computer is 70% slower now.
23:26 bcnjr5 I am trying to cause minetest to glitch out.
23:27 PilzAdam bcnjr5, easy, run it on a mac
23:28 bcnjr5 lol
23:32 bcnjr5 nvm, it won't run.
23:32 PilzAdam run it in valgrind :D
23:33 bcnjr5 too lazy
23:34 PilzAdam run minetest in valgrind wich runs in gdb wich runs in cygwin wich runs in a VM 8D
23:35 bcnjr5 that's the kind of needless complexity I am looking for! :)
23:36 Exio run minetest-arm in an x86_64 system
23:36 Exio with qemu :D
23:36 PilzAdam print out the assembler code and run it in your brain -> tons of bugs
23:38 kaeza also, it will run slow as hell
23:39 kaeza most brains are not multithreaded
23:39 PilzAdam has someone tried to run valgrind in valgrind?
23:39 bcnjr5 0_0
23:39 * PilzAdam tries
23:39 Exio lol
23:39 Exio kaeza: my brain is multithreading
23:39 Exio ed*
23:40 kaeza Exio, race condition, two threads writing the same buffer
23:40 kaeza before you sent to irc
23:40 kaeza _D
23:40 kaeza :D*
23:40 Exio :o you got it
23:41 bcnjr5 Technically the brain is multithreaded. Thousands of simultaneous processes.
23:41 bcnjr5 *billions
23:41 PilzAdam yes, but you only "think" with one thread
23:41 Exio the way the brain works is not multithreaded or singlethreaded
23:41 Exio it is "brainthreaded"
23:42 bcnjr5 I wish I could use my brain for RAM.
23:42 PilzAdam I bet a million $ that god used brainfuck to programm the brain
23:42 Exio how would you be able to listen to someone and type what (s)he is saying at the same time "without threads"?
23:42 PilzAdam Exio, switching between the two tasks
23:42 bcnjr5 Exio: what about "threadbrained"?
23:43 Exio PilzAdam: that is how you implement multithreading in a single core processor ;)
23:44 Exio or is your system limited to the number of cores in your system?
23:44 Exio er, i don't know how to word it
23:44 Exio the number of apps running :P
23:44 bcnjr5 There is a conspiracy theory that God used java. That is why things are weird.
23:44 hmmmm if you drink caffeine you can boost your brain from 200MHz to 250MHz
23:44 hmmmm and with a quad brain it's like 1 GHz
23:45 Exio my brain is like underclocked
23:45 Exio instead of 200MHz, 20KHz
23:45 Exio :D
23:46 bcnjr5 Underclocked things last longer, right?
23:46 PilzAdam not necessarily
23:46 PilzAdam \o/ spelled it correctly
23:46 Exio the normal clocked brain can run for a whole life
23:46 PilzAdam I nether can speel necessarily right
23:47 PilzAdam *spell
23:47 Exio underclocked, would it last like two lifes? :P
23:47 bcnjr5 *never lol
23:47 PilzAdam bcnjr5, thats ad for my nether mod :-p
23:47 PilzAdam Exio, I doubt that you live longer when not thinking
23:48 Exio exactly
23:48 Exio in any case, overclock it!
23:48 PilzAdam imagine a lion attacking you and you have to wait 10 minutes to realize it
23:48 Exio you won't never realize it
23:49 PilzAdam I would rather cut off some of the RAM of your brain in order to have so limited RAM that viruses cant load
23:49 Exio the lion would kill you first ;P
23:53 MinetestBot GIT: kahrl commited to minetest/minetest: Generate debug HUD text with ostringstream instead of snprintf. 7721948a2f 2013-05-31T16:50:08-07:00 http://git.io/zLrH0g
23:55 bcnjr5 #unix
23:55 bcnjr5 oops, sorry.
23:56 PilzAdam offtopic and unofficial engine development have the same number of topics