Time  Nick             Message
00:26 JesseH           ShadowNinja, You host any servers?
03:05 zat              Miner_48er... are you the miner that joined my server using the nickname miner?
03:05 zat              I kind of recognize that nickname.
03:05 Miner_48er       no
03:21 zsoltisawesome   The fox says geding-ding-ding ding-ding
03:21 NekoGloop        the fox says trololololol
03:22 zsoltisawesome   Lol
03:22 zsoltisawesome   Anyone here of Hungarian origin?
03:25 zsoltisawesome   Derp
03:29 zsoltisawesome   Derp
03:50 dante123         cjicken paprikash
03:50 dante123         chicken
03:50 dante123         that is
03:51 dante123         Derpa Dero
03:51 dante123         Derp that is
04:08 zat              Peacock, ShadowNinja, thexyz, Sokomine, SQLite Rollback is done.
04:42 zat              DAmn it must sleep kisses to all
06:04 jak1139          hi
06:05 jak1139          is anyone on?
06:05 jak1139          I have a qustion
06:05 jak1139          *question
06:07 Menche           hmm?
06:07 GNADev|zRokh     -clear
06:07 jak1139          I am just wondering if my computer can run minetest... the only thing that is terrible about my computer is the fact that I have a 128 mb integrated graphics card and a 2.8 ghz intel p4
06:07 GNADev|zRokh     hi JesseH
06:08 jak1139          I have * GB of ram though
06:08 jak1139          *8
06:09 Menche           i have an old p4 machine; on the lowest graphics settings it runs minetest at a barely playable framerate. yours seems like it might be a bit better, so it wouldn't hurt to try
06:09 Menche           like 8-15 fps
06:10 jak1139          I'm gueessing it will have 0 playability on servers
06:10 Menche           as long as your internet is fine, if anything it will be better on servers.
06:11 Menche           because it will only have to handle the client end of things.
06:11 jak1139          oh well I get like 50 mb/s download and 15 up
06:11 jak1139          true true
06:12 Menche           my old p4 has a higher clock speed but half the graphics memory and a fraction of the memory of yours
06:12 Menche           it'll probably run better
06:12 jak1139          lol yah I had two extra ram slots and put another 4 gb in it so it's way op for the comp
06:12 jak1139          I hate my processor and graphics though -_-
06:13 jak1139          crappy old computer can't run Minecraft >_>
06:13 Menche           lol
06:13 jak1139          well thanks for the help... I ain't gonna leave till I download it though
06:13 Menche           i've tried both minetest and minecraft on my netbook; minetest ran playably, but minecraft had low fps on the menu screen
06:13 Menche           before i started a game it was lagging
06:14 jak1139          oh man I used to have a netbook
06:15 jak1139          it could play doom and that was about it and that was at like 20 fps
06:15 jak1139          lol
06:15 jak1139          any reccomend for the build, should I just go default?
06:15 Menche           which build to download?
06:16 jak1139          yah
06:16 jak1139          I'll just go official
06:17 Menche           hmm, 5 different windows builds
06:18 Menche           idk which to recommend as i don't use windows. but the official is the stable version, and most (?) of the 3rd party ones are of the dev
06:18 GNADev|zRokh     go for default! :D
06:18 jak1139          are you on a server
06:19 jak1139          I went default
06:19 jak1139          I will need stability with my specs lol
06:19 Menche           BlockMen's build has DirectX support
06:19 Menche           which may help performance on windows, in some cases.
06:20 Menche           stability? i've been using the latest git all the time without problems
06:20 jak1139          hmm well so far the entry screen runs, better than minecrafts lol
06:21 jak1139          ok well Ima try a server, any reccomendations for which server?
06:21 Menche           if it's slow, try turning off shaders, 3d clouds, fancy leaves, and smooth lighting (in about that order)
06:21 jak1139          already turned all that off before even going in the game lol
06:24 jak1139          are you guys playing on a server?
06:28 jak1139          well something went wrong
06:28 jak1139          the game just crashed
06:28 Menche           what exactly happened?
06:29 jak1139          idk I tried to get on the server and switched to check the irc and it stopped responding
06:29 jak1139          Do I need to get mods for the servers?
06:30 Menche           no
06:30 Menche           you don't have to have any game content of any kind installed to connect to a server; all content is sent from the server to the client
06:30 jak1139          hmmm
06:32 jak1139          well I just played single player for a couple minutes and I was getting around 20 fps
06:34 jak1139          and it did it again
06:34 Menche           did the client crash?
06:34 jak1139          so basically it blackscreened but in the bottom left corner it flashed different images rapidly
06:34 Menche           ah, it does that sometimes while connecting
06:35 jak1139          it just stopped responding
06:35 Menche           if there's a lot of textures used on the server
06:35 Menche           are the images still changing?
06:35 jak1139          so just relaunch
06:35 Menche           yeah
06:35 jak1139          no it stopped responding
06:36 Menche           did a cmd window come up with minetest? if so did you see any useful messages there?
06:36 jak1139          yah a cmd is up I'll see what it says this time around
06:36 jak1139          tanks for helpin a noob out btw
06:40 jak1139          okay so it did it again and the cmd basically said things like cannot load 1.png,2.png or something similar and said something about not loading shaders
06:40 jak1139          I'll try another server
09:27 webdesigner97    hi
09:27 webdesigner97    anyone here who can help me with moving entities?
09:42 VanessaE         hi
09:43 VanessaE         nope
09:51 VanessaE         define "proper"
09:52 VanessaE         ah
09:52 VanessaE         tried using a virtual machine?
10:08 rotcaer          o/
10:12 rotcaer          ftp://188.16.61.203/pub/screen/
10:17 VanessaE         nice
10:18 rotcaer          ty
10:19 rotcaer          vertical slabs and wallstairs are fab
10:20 rotcaer          john_minetest: Pripyat.
10:20 FreeFull         It'd be nice if smooth lighting worked for nodeboxes
10:20 rotcaer          john_minetest: I'm porting a map, and making more correct buildings models
10:20 rotcaer          FreeFull: as in, slabs and such?
10:21 rotcaer          It would.
10:21 rotcaer          I recall minecraft ving slab lighting bug.
10:21 rotcaer          s/ving/having/
10:29 webdesigner97    gtg, bye :)
10:40 rotcaer          So eh.
10:40 rotcaer          Is there a way to generate structural decay automatically?
10:41 rotcaer          As in, randomly replace stone nodes to cobble/mossy cobble/dirt and place grass over dirt
10:41 rotcaer          s/to/tiem/
10:41 rotcaer          s/tiem/with/
10:41 VanessaE         john_minetest: gloopblocks.
10:42 JesseH           rotcaer, perhaps by giving the nodes of each building "likelyhood to rot" numbers, which hook up to a random generator. So some may have chance to "decay" more often than others.
10:42 VanessaE         (it does stone -> mossy stone; cobble -> mossy cobble)
10:42 JesseH           Then change the nodes, and then eventually just take them away
10:42 JesseH           (Delete them)
10:42 rotcaer          hmm
10:43 JesseH           How does Minetest handle the Lua side of things? Like does it load a lua state for each script?
10:46 JesseH           john_minetest, You on a server?
10:46 JesseH           I want to build :P
10:46 JesseH           I think I'm going to join as well. VanessaE What's the ip? ;D
10:47 VanessaE         vanessae.mine.bz port 30000 (creative) or 30001 (survival)
10:47 JesseH           Wonder which one i should join
10:48 rotcaer          How come MT doesn't accept X primary selection?
10:48 rotcaer          Can't paste anything.
10:48 VanessaE         rotcaer: old bug, allegedly irrlicht's fault
10:48 rotcaer          mk
10:48 VanessaE         supposedly KDE's clipboard manager works though
10:49 rotcaer          Uh. Stuck on "item definitions".
10:50 VanessaE         you running latest git?
10:51 rotcaer          I am.
10:51 VanessaE         ok
10:51 rotcaer          Well, some days old.
10:51 VanessaE         I guess just wait it out
10:51 VanessaE         I did just run some updates
10:51 rotcaer          Yes, it's loading
10:51 VanessaE         ok
10:51 rotcaer          Slowly, though. It might be my line.
10:53 rotcaer          So, do servers currently support only onw world?
10:54 VanessaE         one world per server, ues
10:54 VanessaE         yes*
10:54 VanessaE         but of course you can run as many servers as you have the resources to handle
10:54 rotcaer          yep
10:55 rotcaer          Are there conditions servers could max out the CPU?
10:55 rotcaer          Or memory?
10:55 VanessaE         mostly if a server uses a lot of mapgen-based mods will it max out CPU
10:56 VanessaE         memory, really not so mucj
10:56 VanessaE         much*
10:56 rotcaer          Oh, so if singlenode mapgen it shouldn't?
10:56 VanessaE         that should be fine, yeah
10:56 rotcaer          Also, hmm.
10:56 VanessaE         as long as you're not running some heavy mod on top of that
10:56 * NekoGloop      pokes VanessaE with a evil sword
10:56 VanessaE         ow.
10:56 VanessaE         good thing those don't do any damage anymore
10:57 rotcaer          Say, you have a map with nothing but air underground. Is there a way to generate proper underground structure for it?
10:57 NekoGloop        Are they broken AGAIN
10:57 VanessaE         NekoGloop: well I don't recall having updated them when that new damage system went into effect some months ago
10:57 NekoGloop        I did that.
10:58 NekoGloop        Remember?
10:58 VanessaE         oh, right
10:58 VanessaE         in that case, they do damage.
10:58 * VanessaE       bleeds profusely.
10:58 NekoGloop        https://github.com/VanessaE/gloopblocks/commit/d230811872e1a1e95a943d24048e52ca8bac7606
10:59 VanessaE         oh yeah
10:59 * rotcaer        spawns some band-aids.
10:59 NekoGloop        4 hearts
10:59 rotcaer          john_minetest: mk
10:59 rotcaer          john_minetest: idk eh.
10:59 VanessaE         john_minetest: aww :(
10:59 rotcaer          john_minetest: would you like to help me with the map?
11:00 rotcaer          It mainly has to do with looking at the photos and yandsx maps.
11:00 rotcaer          yandex*
11:00 NekoGloop        Speaking of breaking, do weapons have the ability to break yet?
11:00 rotcaer          and yandex panoramae
11:00 VanessaE         heh ok
11:00 rotcaer          NekoGloop: idk, but screwdriver does, and that's annoying :D
11:01 rotcaer          john_minetest: mkay, I'll try and make a server in a second
11:01 NekoGloop        screwdriver isn't a weapon
11:02 VanessaE         and there's no way to set the wear level of a tool when it's used in a craft recipe either :-
11:02 rotcaer          Hmm.
11:02 VanessaE         :-/
11:02 rotcaer          Is weather server-wide?
11:03 NekoGloop        Well that much was a given, VE.
11:03 rotcaer          Also, hmm.
11:04 rotcaer          onlycreativemobs
11:04 rotcaer          But there are no mobs yet!
11:04 * NekoGloop      thinks minetest is going to pretty much turn into terraria; not getting updates for years at a time
11:04 rotcaer          s/creative/peaceful/
11:11 rotcaer          hmm
11:11 rotcaer          static_spawnpoint defiled, still spawn at 0,0,0
11:11 rotcaer          john_minetest: yes
11:11 rotcaer          I can show you the building it was taken from :D
11:12 rotcaer          ...or not... if I haven't yet pasted it
11:15 rotcaer          ...wikipedia says oranges are edible unpeeled.
11:16 NekoGloop        They technically are
11:16 NekoGloop        probably tastes like shit
11:16 NekoGloop        But they're -edible-
11:17 nore             hi everyone...
11:17 VanessaE         hey nore
11:17 * NekoGloop      puts a kitten on nore's head
11:17 nore             so, what happened this week?
11:17 NekoGloop        I afk'd eternally
11:18 NekoGloop        And paid no attention to #minetest
11:18 NekoGloop        Like usual.
11:18 VanessaE         nre:  big disaster today.   everything exploded.
11:18 VanessaE         :P
11:19 NekoGloop        Pokemon X and Y come out today yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay
11:19 VanessaE         heh
11:23 VanessaE         bbl
12:20 Jordach          wtf am i reading from last nights scrollback
12:20 * Jordach        got 14 hours sleep
12:20 Jordach          thatsarecord.jpg
12:27 Jordach          spppammmmm
12:27 Jordach          if it takes you five lines to enter a channel; you suck
12:42 rotcaer          How come the server is ignoring my default privs and spawnpoint setting?
12:45 rotcaer          never mind, I ran it from the wrong dir
12:47 * arsdragonfly   's client hasn't disconnected since last night
12:47 arsdragonfly     record-setting
12:51 rotcaer          "Microsoft Works" is an oxymoron
12:52 Jordach          HA
12:53 zat              what is the procedure to get a feature I just incorporated to Minetest to be tried by someone?
12:53 zat              hopefully being able to commit it through git
12:54 Jordach          zat, create github account, fork minetest repo, git pull minetest repo, make changes, git push, pull request, ???, profit
12:54 zat              Jordach: ...repeat
12:55 Jordach          haha
12:55 pitriss          hi, please, can anybody help me with moreblocks mod? How i make stairs plus recipes visible in unified inventory?
12:55 zat              I have an own git server, should work if it is not github I guess
12:55 pitriss          (stairsplus is part of moreblocks)
12:55 Jordach          we know
12:55 * prestotron55   is back and has Edubuntu
12:56 Jordach          OUT. NOW.
12:56 Jordach          also - verizon sucks
12:56 prestotron55     [deleted]
12:56 prestotron55     [deleted]
12:57 Jordach          >Edu...
12:58 prestotron55     [deleted]
12:58 prestotron55     [deleted]
12:58 Jordach          never mix education and gaming
12:58 Jordach          you're up the creek with no paddle
13:05 nore             hi
13:06 nore             is there another core dev around?
13:24 Jordach          hmmmm is
13:27 Jordach          sfan5, where the fuck is your upload server when i need it
13:27 Jordach          (in fact apache2 appears to have crashed)
13:31 OldCoder         nore, Hi
13:31 OldCoder         I am not a core dev. But they will be here.
13:37 harrison         john_minetest: come back -- all is forgiven
13:55 sfan5            Jordach: I'm at my cousin now..
13:55 VanessaE         hi all.
13:55 * Jordach        screams fuck
13:56 Jordach          <darkrose> windows builds? no... that takes sdzen turning up at random to do it usually
13:56 Jordach          and now that plan is dashed
14:14 rotcaer          ?
14:14 VanessaE         !
14:15 Jordach          ??
14:15 VanessaE         ¿
14:15 Jordach          !!
14:17 troller          Ы
14:18 zat              Ы!
14:24 rotcaer          Щ
14:24 rotcaer          щ_Щ
14:26 rotcaer          hmm
14:26 VanessaE         שׁ
14:27 rotcaer          max_users=4 and still denying more than 2 users to join
14:30 rotcaer          Also, does anyone have a rc script for MT handy?
14:35 VanessaE         rotcaer:  http://pastebin.com/WciTJ5MC
14:35 VanessaE         this is how I start my servers
14:35 rotcaer          rc.local -_-
14:35 VanessaE         (I have two separate scripts, both run from /etc/rc.local (
14:35 rotcaer          Mk, I'll fiddle with it.
14:52 * Jordach        pokes VanessaE
14:52 VanessaE         wot?
14:53 rotcaer          pawkes
14:54 rotcaer          how do I write to the chat from the server?
14:54 Jordach          you cant
14:55 rotcaer          oh
14:55 rotcaer          mk
14:55 rotcaer          Is there such a thing as server console?
14:55 Jordach          no
14:55 Jordach          you can read output from the server, but not input
14:56 Jordach          hello dante123
14:56 rotcaer          mk
14:56 rotcaer          So, no way to control it without loggin in via minetest?
14:56 rotcaer          s/gin/ging/
14:57 Jordach          exactly
14:57 rotcaer          :(
15:08 nicknamenottaken Jordach: I had the idea, a week ago, of making a mod that would read from a socket
15:08 nicknamenottaken so you can pipe commands to the world
15:12 dante123         hello Jordach
15:13 rotcaer          nicknamenottaken: that would be nice
15:13 zat              Yes rotcaer, if someone does not make it I hopefully would develop it soon.
15:14 zat              though I am not so good with lua.
15:26 dante123         its been so long, i forgot how to look up and see if server is running with command from in here?
15:26 dante123         what is the command?
15:26 dante123         !up or something like that
15:26 MinetestBot      dante123: Invalid Address
15:27 dante123         !up minetest.info.tm
15:27 MinetestBot      minetest.info.tm:30000 seems to be down
15:28 dante123         okay, so I have a script to update the dns....but when I execute it on this new linux pc....i don't get any indication that it updated
15:28 dante123         here it pastebin of script
15:29 dante123         http://pastebin.ca/2465971
15:30 dante123         do you see anything wrong with this script and shouldn't it return a message in terminal?
15:32 dante123         !up minetest.info.tm
15:33 MinetestBot      minetest.info.tm:30000 seems to be down
15:33 dante123         !up minetest.info.tm
15:33 MinetestBot      minetest.info.tm:30000 seems to be down
15:37 rotcaer          !up 127.0.0.1
15:37 MinetestBot      127.0.0.1:30000 is up (103ms)
15:38 rotcaer          103 ms while pinging self!
15:38 rotcaer          Must be a calculator.
15:41 dante123         !up minetest.info.tm
15:41 MinetestBot      minetest.info.tm:30000 seems to be down
15:46 pitriss          Calinou: hi, please i want to ask.. How i can force stairsplus from moreblocks to appear in unified inventory, in craft guide?
15:47 Calinou          you'll have to change some code: in stairsplus.lua
15:47 Calinou          remove "not_in_creative_inventory=1" from all definitions
15:48 rotcaer          Creative inventory is inconvenient -_-.
15:49 Calinou          it's a GUI, yes
15:49 Calinou          you can use /giveme if you have privs :3
15:50 rotcaer          Oh.
15:50 dante123         !up minetest.info.tm
15:50 MinetestBot      minetest.info.tm:30000 seems to be down
15:50 rotcaer          I didn't know about the command.
15:50 rotcaer          Thank you.
15:50 Calinou          :o
15:50 pitriss          Calinou: okay i will try that..
15:51 Calinou          :)
15:53 pitriss          Calinou: yes it is working.. please is possible to make this configurable from some file, to be able use your moreblocks as submodule in my game?
15:53 dante123         !up minetest.info.tm
15:53 MinetestBot      ...
15:54 Calinou          maybe it's possible, I'll try
15:54 pitriss          Calinou: oh thank you
15:55 dante123         !up minetest.info.tm
15:55 MinetestBot      ...
15:56 dante123         !up minetest.info.tm
15:56 MinetestBot      ...
15:56 pitriss          dante123: please use PM
15:56 dante123         what do the three dots mean from minetestbot???
15:56 dante123         ok sorry
15:56 pitriss          erm query
15:56 dante123         forgot
15:56 MinetestBot      minetest.net:30000 seems to be down
15:56 rotcaer          !up goatse.cx
15:57 MinetestBot      goatse.cx:30000 seems to be down
15:57 rotcaer          I KNEW it.
16:00 MinetestBot      blackhaw.k:30000 seems to be down
16:01 rotcaer          heh
16:01 dante123         hi all, having troubles getting server visible from internet....using freedns
16:02 Calinou          did you forward port 30000 in UDP?
16:03 dante123         ok will check that
16:03 dante123         here is my script http://pastebin.ca/2465971
16:04 dante123         from like 6 months ago....I did change password on freedns recently....could that mean I need to change script?
16:04 Calinou          not recent ones
16:07 rotcaer          Compile it?
16:11 Calinou          my Minetest seems to ignore all mods...
16:11 Calinou          I don't have any more nodes
16:12 Calinou          are symlinks broken?
16:12 Calinou          hi Wuzzy :)
16:19 Calinou          this doesn't work :'( can't use a variable in a group definition
16:43 dante123         hi all, i seem to be having trouble getting my server to be seen...can anyone help
16:48 zat              I have eyes
16:48 dante123         !up minetest.info.tm
16:48 fairiestoy       Hey guys, i have a question. I tried to develop a furnace which should work even if the chunk is not loading and should be lag-resistand due to missing abms. But i ran into a problem. It says in line 168 that the temp_stack called is nil even if it shouldn't be. Heres the file https://github.com/fairiestoy/tb_furnace/blob/master/init.lua
16:48 pitriss          Calinou: So i should create some mod to redefine your definitions or just fork your moreblocks if variables doesn't work?
16:49 Calinou          I tried doing them but this doesn't work. maybe you could help me :P
16:49 Calinou          in config.txt I have a variable: not_in_creative_inventory=show_stairsplus_creative_inv
16:49 Calinou          set to 0 by default and can be set to 1
16:49 Calinou          err, the var is show_stairsplus_creative_inv
16:49 Calinou          but the group definition is not_in_creative_inventory=show_stairsplus_creative_inv
16:50 Calinou          regardless of the setting the stairs never show in creative inventory :(
16:50 pitriss          Calinou: i'm newb at modding:D so i'm learning from others work atm
16:50 Calinou          it's not like I'm too good at programming either
16:51 Calinou          not for 0.4.7
16:52 Calinou          I'll try concatenating
16:52 rotcaer          What happens if a node falls into the abyss?
16:53 Calinou          nope
16:53 Calinou          rotcaer: a node can't
16:53 Calinou          oh, nevermind
16:53 rotcaer          an entity
16:53 rotcaer          falling sand
16:53 Calinou          I'll try :P
16:54 Calinou          it falls indefinitely apparently
16:54 Calinou          more or less...
16:54 Calinou          like a dropped item
16:54 Calinou          that's sad. :(
16:54 rotcaer          but that would lead to overflows!
16:55 rotcaer          could*
16:55 Calinou          ye
16:55 Calinou          yes
16:55 Calinou          should be fixed :/
16:55 Calinou          also only wya to get rid of it is /clearobjects
16:55 Calinou          you can't punch falling sand
16:57 Jordach          dante123, i think your domain name might have run out - are you sure that has refreshed
16:57 Jordach          or has the VPS expired
16:58 dante123         i've logged into freedns and everything looks good....
16:58 Jordach          ssh into the vps, make sure it's alive
16:58 Jordach          or at least check if it is still blocking LAN
16:58 Jordach          WAN*
16:58 dante123         is there somewhere else I have to go to get the minetest.info.tm refreshed
16:59 dante123         can you try it.....server is up and running on original pc where I had it
16:59 dante123         Jordach, I can't remember how I did all this.....where do I go to setup/register the domain?
17:00 dante123         on router i have dmz setup for this pc
17:01 Jordach          hold it
17:01 Jordach          http://i.imgur.com/1RT3VV9.png
17:01 Jordach          the machine is actively alive, and is responding to my pings
17:02 Jordach          the minetestserver instance may have died
17:02 dante123         just restarted it
17:02 Jordach          that's why MinetestBot cannot check
17:02 Calinou          O_o I'm on linux and my build is Minetest 0.4.7-MSVC-321-something
17:02 Jordach          !up minetest.info.tm
17:02 Jordach          MinetestBot!
17:02 MinetestBot      Jordach!
17:02 Jordach          nuuu
17:03 Jordach          dante123, did the port change? is the host machine displaying anything unusual
17:03 dante123         no, port 30000
17:03 Jordach          hm
17:04 Jordach          just sitting at connecting to server...
17:04 Jordach          brb - ~15 mins
17:13 zat              who wants to test the new rollback?
17:23 prestotron22     Herro
17:24 pitriss          Calinou: I was also scared by that MSVC something.. PA told me that is just normal..
17:25 rotcaer          But UNIX doesn ot have Visual C!
17:25 rotcaer          You're dropping UNIX support? :(
17:33 Peacock          lol this guy getting DOS'd over a stupid game -> http://ask.slashdot.org/story/13/10/12/1254214/ask-slashdot-mitigating-dos-attacks-on-home-network
17:49 pitriss          Calinou: hmm hmm, maybe i made it configurable.. http://pastebin.com/S7ertvyh
17:50 pitriss          Calinou: but IMO those settings in _config.txt should be default and _config.txt shouldn't be part of git..
17:51 pitriss          so when someone do git pull then it will be not overwritten..
17:53 Calinou          yeah but people have to write their own then
17:53 Calinou          or I should make an example file but then the code would attempt doing a dofile on an unknown file if user doesn't have config file
17:55 Calinou          works! thanks! :)
17:56 pitriss          Calinou: Yw.. btw there can be check if file exists.. and when not, just let script set defaults..
17:57 pitriss          and if exists, then check which ones are set up and other set as default:)
18:10 dante123         okay, about 6 months ago I setup minetest.info.tm on port 30000 for freedns, now it is not working, could the "minetest.info.tm" have expired?  I can't remember how I set that all up and need some help doing it again...the domain name part
18:16 pitriss          dante123: that domain is pointing at 24.231.73.100 is this IP of your server?
18:20 dante123         yes
18:20 dante123         and server is up
18:20 dante123         can you try connecting (port 30000)
18:21 pitriss          dante123: then it is not expired and problem is somewhere else
18:21 pitriss          no atm.. I'm busy now..
18:21 Evergreen        Lol, I just got a PM fro saikoe that is titled "Noob Head"  that says "You are such a noob"
18:21 us^0gb           Is there a good way to be sure an ore that generates is exceedingly rare and not that it just never generates?
18:22 VanessaE         generate it in air
18:22 VanessaE         observe the result
18:22 us^0gb           I did generate it in air, actually. It's an in-air ore.
18:23 VanessaE         heh ok
18:23 us^0gb           I see nothing .... but it's also supposed to be hard to find.
18:23 VanessaE         well in that case, play with one of the parameters, see if it starts to show up
18:23 us^0gb           I also set up an ABM to alert me if that ore loads.
18:23 VanessaE         unless you're flirting with some internal precision limit, it's probably working fine, and is just simply THAT rare.
18:24 us^0gb           Yeah, that's what I fear.
18:24 us^0gb           I always seem to hit limits.
18:28 PilzAdam         Hello everyone!
18:30 us^0gb           Hello!
18:31 us^0gb           Hmm. Maybe I need a team to help me search.
18:32 us^0gb           I need to find some sort of reward for finding it.
18:44 chlue            us^0gb: You are aware that (at least if you have not changed it) ore will only spawn when the maparea is generated as as such you either need a new world or at least go somewhere where you never where before?
18:46 us^0gb           chlue, yeah, I keep deleting map.sqlite to regenerate it. Good catch though, a lot of people don't realize that it only effects new areas.
18:47 chlue            ok then happy hunting
18:48 dante123         can someone try connecting to server at minetest.info.tm
18:48 us^0gb           I'm going to turn the rarity down a bit. I don't want it to be easy to find, but I have to be able to verify it exists myself.
18:48 dante123         please
18:48 us^0gb           Doing ...
18:49 rotcaer          Dong?
18:49 PilzAdam         dangit! found a game that is less bloated than Pilztest: https://github.com/Jordach/jordach_game
18:49 us^0gb           No, doing.
18:49 PilzAdam         ^ Jordach
18:49 rotcaer          Boing?
18:49 rotcaer          Boioioioioing!
18:50 us^0gb           PilzAdam, that's awesome. I'm going to try that game when I get home from work.
18:51 us{0gb           XChat crashed.
18:51 us{0gb           Probably a delayed reaction to me trying to paste what I copied from XChat into Minetest.
18:51 us{0gb           I cannot connect to that server, dante123.
18:53 rotcaer          XChat sucks.
18:53 rotcaer          Its developers should be denied human rights.
18:53 us{0gb           Okay, what would you recommend? I only use it for legacy reasons.
18:53 us{0gb           I disagree that they should be denied human rights.
18:56 rotcaer          us{0gb: there are a lot of nice IRC clients
18:56 rotcaer          that have ebtter interface
18:56 rotcaer          better*
18:57 us{0gb           And I think XChat is nice, so if it isn't, I don't know what I'm looking for. What would YOU recommend?
18:57 chlue            I use quassel but have not really tried anything else
18:59 pitriss          us{0gb: depend on your preferences, os etc.. but I like Konversation from KDE
19:12 us{0gb           Where is register_ore defined? grep can't find it.
19:13 Jordach          PilzAdam, lol
19:14 Jordach          PilzAdam, i was actually going to do something with it :D
19:18 Jordach          PilzAdam, yeah, i'll go make a really lightweight game
19:19 Jordach          maybe a re-visit to the times when things we're simple
19:19 chlue            us{0gb: Mayee you mean the /mods/default/mapgen.lua the minetest.register_ore({... functions?
19:20 us{0gb           Those functions, yes, but not those function calls. Those function definitions.
19:20 chlue            they are in the c-source I guess
19:21 us{0gb           I greped the C-source. THey didn't show up.
19:22 chlue            what about l_mapgen.cpp line 405?
19:23 us{0gb           I seem to be missing that file for some reason ...
19:24 chlue            /src/script/lua_api/
19:25 us{0gb           Okay, I got it. I was searching in src/* .
19:25 us{0gb           Thank you!
19:26 us{0gb           Is it just me, or is GitHub slow today?
19:28 zat              Done: you can clone the test implementation from: git://bros.ivn.cl/mbarrera/minetest.git
19:31 us{0gb           For which system? I lack the skill to compile for Windows, but I can compile for GNU/Linux.
19:32 us{0gb           Yeah, I don't know how to do that.
19:32 us{0gb           If you want to walk me through it, I could try.
19:34 Jordach          PilzAdam, http://i.imgur.com/Cksj9c9.png
19:34 us{0gb           Jordach, nice!
19:34 Jordach          us{0gb, we're going old school with the new school
19:35 Jordach          renewable lava
19:35 us{0gb           I wish I had thought of that.
19:35 Jordach          im also removing the animated textures; eg, a stripped down variant of the minetest_game
19:36 Jordach          but i will throw in some extras
19:36 us{0gb           My water sources don't animate, but I think everything else similar to a minetest_game animated node in my game animates.
19:36 Calinou          :o your checkboxes look different, Jordach
19:37 Calinou          mine have white background
19:37 us{0gb           I might rethink that though, and only animate flowing liquids.
19:37 PilzAdam         Calinou, that is Irrlicht 1.8
19:37 Calinou          I thought of that yeah
19:37 PilzAdam         it allows changing that color, and for some reason c55 decided that it looks better like this
19:38 * Jordach        wants white
19:38 Jordach          im also using a blockmen build
19:39 us{0gb           Does Minetest use the same integer range for noise seeds as map seeds?
19:40 Calinou          no idea, look in source :P
19:40 us{0gb           Yeah, I can't see what I'm doing in the source. I suck at this.
19:42 Calinou          me too
19:42 us{0gb           And ... GItHub won't let me use the drop-down menu to reach other branches. *sigh*
19:42 Jordach          btw, i've removed gold, copper and diamonds
19:42 Jordach          all of them are useless, as is gold
19:42 Jordach          s/gold/bronze
19:42 us{0gb           Copper sucks.
19:43 us{0gb           Gold and diamonds I could live with or without.
19:44 Jordach          gold is just for building
19:44 PilzAdam         Jordach, Id like if you create a new game instead of yet another minetest_game fork
19:44 Jordach          PilzAdam, i'm basing it off of minetest-0.4-dev20120112
19:44 Jordach          but with some 0.4.x features
19:44 Jordach          i want a skeleton before i go anywhere
19:45 us{0gb           PilzAdam, I'm building a not-fork. I'm bound to some similarities due to the mapgen aliases ans will have some other similarities to make it easy to pick up, but will otherwise be different. That said, my game will also be incredibly bloated like VanessaE_game.
19:46 us{0gb           *and
19:48 us{0gb           I'm not seeing RealBadAngel's skydome branch. I only see master, stable-0.3, and stable-0.2.
19:48 PilzAdam         I guess its in master, RBA hasnt really figured out branches in git yet AFAIK
19:53 RedBlade7        hi
19:53 RedBlade7        i'm new to minetest, just got it yesterday
19:54 RedBlade7        is there any way to stop the pitch black nighttime?
19:54 RedBlade7        hurts my eyes trying to see with it, annoying to wait until the light comes back
19:54 PilzAdam         the night isnt pitch black, just very dark
19:54 PilzAdam         I suggest using torches
19:55 RedBlade7        yes i know there's stuff there but it's hard to see anyway
19:55 RedBlade7        where do you find the torches?
19:56 PilzAdam         you craft them with coal and sticks
19:56 RedBlade7        how do you "craft" something lol
19:56 PilzAdam         in your inventory you have a 3x3 grid
19:56 us{0gb           THere's a setting in minetest.conf to make time stop. So it will always be day. I forget what setting, hold on.
19:56 PilzAdam         you craft something by arranging items in there
19:57 PilzAdam         e.g. when you place a tree trunk you get 4 wood blocks
19:57 RedBlade7        ok didnt see the "I" button
19:57 PilzAdam         a wood block gives you 4 sticks
19:57 rotcaer          4 hardons
19:57 PilzAdam         3 wood blocks in the top row, and 2 sticks in the middle under it gives you a wodden pick, which allows to mine stone and coal
19:58 PilzAdam         one stick and coal above gives you a torch
19:58 us{0gb           RedBlade7, type "/set -n time_speed 72" when in the game and hit enter.
19:58 rotcaer          enough to build a hardon collider
19:58 us{0gb           Oops, I meant "/set -n time_speed 0".
19:58 us{0gb           john_minetest, it sounds like you have no intention to take me up on my offer, and now I have to leave anyway. Later!
19:59 RedBlade7        after it turns daylight you mean?
20:01 RedBlade7        i set to "900" and tried to catch it at "0" but i keep missing it
20:01 PilzAdam         use /time 12000  and then set time_speed to 0
20:02 PilzAdam         or first set it to 0 and then /time 12000
20:02 RedBlade7        thank you so much PilzAdam and us{0gb
20:02 PilzAdam         anyway, that is considered cheating
20:02 RedBlade7        my computer faces from a window where the sun sets
20:02 PilzAdam         you should learn to play the game how its meant, that is using crafting
20:02 RedBlade7        so depending on the time of day i cant play games
20:03 RedBlade7        ok i was just building stuff with the blocks
20:03 RedBlade7        will learn stuff
20:03 RedBlade7        it's not cheating, it's eye health
20:03 RedBlade7        i need to go to the doctor, it's been over a year
20:03 PilzAdam         you are always free to play creative without a day night cycle, though
20:03 Jordach          woot
20:03 Jordach          https://github.com/Jordach/jordach_game
20:04 Jordach          i used the terminal to push it
20:04 RedBlade7        i installed the 256kb hgx tiles
20:04 PilzAdam         Achievement get: Average git user
20:05 Jordach          http://i.imgur.com/sFwTm8s.png
20:06 Jordach          instead of having to create a folder with the unzipper, i leave a folder, so people can just drag the folder already in there and not having to rename shit
20:07 Jordach          hey Evergreen
20:07 Evergreen        'Ello
20:07 Jordach          https://github.com/Jordach/jordach_game
20:07 Jordach          that repo has been silent for 4 months
20:08 Jordach          i've also corrected some bugs: you get 4 stone bricks (either variant) instead of the one
20:08 RedBlade7        is there any way to plant new trees in this game?
20:09 PilzAdam         RedBlade7, yes
20:09 PilzAdam         !wik sapling
20:09 MinetestBot      "Saplings can be gathered from leaves, when you mine leaves (1 in 20 chance), or cut down a tree there is a 1 in 20 chance for each leaf block to drop a sapling." - http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Sapling
20:09 Calinou          hi Evergreen :)
20:09 PilzAdam         ^ sfan5 update to wiki.minetest.net
20:09 RedBlade7        PilzAdam: that makes sense. i did get apples once but never again
20:09 sfan5            hm?
20:09 zat              Guys would someone please compile a fork I just uploaded to see if it works fine somewhere else
20:10 RedBlade7        i know they disappear
20:10 PilzAdam         RedBlade7, may I just point you to wiki.minetest.net
20:10 RedBlade7        the bushes
20:10 RedBlade7        if the tree is gone
20:10 RedBlade7        ok
20:10 RedBlade7        ok going the PilzAdam
20:12 Jordach          https://github.com/Jordach/jordach_game/commit/7a9c57daba733c625b2181ddc65244da62409e06
20:12 Jordach          !title
20:12 MinetestBot      Jordach: add Sam II woo mother fucker · 7a9c57d · Jordach/jordach_game · GitHub
20:12 Jordach          :D
20:15 RedBlade7        if you pause time like i did, do the saplings not grow?
20:15 PilzAdam         they still grow
20:15 PilzAdam         you only stop the day-night cycle
20:18 pitriss          I have question about day night cycle.. setting it to 24 makes one ingame day last for one hour?
20:19 RedBlade7        hey one of the saplings grew! :)
20:26 Jordach          say hello to the quad stair: http://i.imgur.com/i7gtKJL.png
20:26 PilzAdam         hi
20:26 Wuzzy            hello!
20:27 * Jordach        thinks it looks better than normal stairs, but will keep the normal stairs
20:30 Jordach          any ideas for a nodebox?
20:31 Calinou          didn't you make that "quad stair" thing a long time ago? :P
20:31 Jordach          Calinou, but it wasnt perfect 1/4
20:31 Calinou          also it's not hard to make, don't need a nodebox editor for that :P
20:31 * Jordach        thinks wall mounted radiators
20:39 * Jordach        adds the all powerful air sword into his game
20:49 * Jordach        looks at Calinou's reddit
20:50 Calinou          u jelly of my 445 comment karma
20:50 Calinou          and 27 link karma
20:50 Jordach          http://www.reddit.com/user/sfan5
20:50 Jordach          way better.
20:51 Jordach          404's on PilzAdam
20:52 RedBlade7        is it possible to get out of mining and back to the surface if your pickaxe runs out?
20:52 Calinou          that's what she said
20:52 RedBlade7        or do i have to delete
20:52 Calinou          using building nodes you can
20:52 Jordach          nope
20:52 Calinou          also, you could make staircases and ladders
20:52 Jordach          you cant dig stone with fists
20:53 sfan5            lol
20:54 RedBlade7        made another so i got out now
21:03 VanessaE         hi
21:04 Evergreen        Lol, let me log out of webchat
21:04 Evergreen        That's better
21:07 RedBlade7        thanks for showing me how to play
21:07 RedBlade7        gotta go
21:07 RedBlade7        bye
21:09 VanessaE         webchat indeed.  for shame :)
21:14 Calinou          gtg night
21:16 VanessaE         night
21:17 jojoa1997        hi
21:17 VanessaE         hi
21:30 Evergreen        Hi NakedFury
21:34 NakedFury        hi
21:49 * VanessaE       just had a bowl of beef ramen with shredded cheddar cheese melted and blended into it......  Mmmmm ramen noodle heaven
21:54 NakedFury        nice
21:54 NakedFury        might try that some time
22:11 PilzAdam         bye
22:41 pitriss          please, can anybody tell me what is bobblocks:btm ?
22:42 VanessaE         I think it was originally supposed to be a currency device
22:42 VanessaE         but I guess he never finished it
22:43 pitriss          ahh okay, thanks.. so when i remove it out of source then nothing will be hurt..
22:44 VanessaE         probably not, but why remove it?
22:45 pitriss          and why should I have some not functional device on server?:)
22:45 VanessaE         decoration? :)
22:46 pitriss          hmm hmm it needs rat to craft and we don't have rats:D
22:46 VanessaE         heh