Time Nick Message 00:53 EvergreenTree Anyone else play Warsow? Just discovered it 00:53 EvergreenTree it's pretty cool 00:54 us_0gb I have not. What's it about? 01:24 SirDigby http://i.imgur.com/HRLVV6l.gif 01:25 us_0gb SirDigby: What does that scene have to do with the Obama? 01:30 SirDigby Nothing 01:30 SirDigby Thats the point 01:30 SirDigby people blame him for stuff he had nothing to do with 01:32 philipbenr I hear nothing. Silence 01:32 philipbenr nice. 01:33 philipbenr I am on the IRC with total silece. lol 01:33 philipbenr Well, this is completly pointless. 01:53 * Enke breaks the silence. 01:57 * EvergreenTree glues the silence back together 01:59 hoodedice Darn lol 02:00 hoodedice anyway, which is the most recommended windows build for clients connecting to server, when considering least server lag caused? 02:00 hoodedice One with cURL? 02:03 hoodedice I think I asked... 02:04 hoodedice A STOOPID QUESTION!!! 02:05 hoodedice lemme guess... Evergreentree ! 02:06 hoodedice No... Not online... 02:06 * VanessaE hides 02:06 hoodedice -.- 02:07 hoodedice Enke ! 02:07 hoodedice Looks like the minetest project has been abandoned. Well, at least I have a credit card to buy Minecraft with 02:08 VanessaE hah 02:08 hoodedice GOT YOU! 02:08 hoodedice plol. Did you not say that cUrl does stuff like torrenting? 02:08 hoodedice Or something? 02:09 VanessaE curl uses http to fetch files from a remote media server 02:09 VanessaE if the minetest server you connect to is configured to tell the client where to go 02:10 hoodedice So it's the same as a browser. 02:10 VanessaE similar idea yeah 02:10 hoodedice And I'm too lazy to config shit, so I'll just give that a pass. 02:10 VanessaE else the client will fetch the media directly from the minetest server via the old protocol, which is about 1/4 the speed of http 02:10 VanessaE curl is also needed for the public announce 02:10 VanessaE and for the client to be able to read from the master server list 02:10 hoodedice If I give all the mods that are used in the server, and my clients use that 02:10 VanessaE (e.g. the public list) 02:11 hoodedice Ok. Therefore, I'll need to build my own mt for ubuntu... 02:11 VanessaE so, you want curl. :) 02:11 hoodedice Anyway, if people having pre-installed mods that are in my server connect, will they have to re-download the media? 02:11 Enke Hi hoodedice 02:11 hoodedice Hey. 02:12 Enke I was playing a Deathmatch game. not much time to check IRC 02:12 hoodedice Which game? 02:12 hoodedice Sorry. 02:15 hoodedice VanessaE, simple question. Will you walk me through setting up an MT server? I've done half the stuff, port forwarding and shit, but I have a few performance related questions, which might be nooby 02:15 VanessaE heh, I'm the last person to ask performance-related questions of :P 02:15 EvergreenTree hoodedice, I am online 02:15 EvergreenTree DUN DUN DUN! 02:16 hoodedice Hello Evergreen, sorry for the bug. 02:16 VanessaE hoodedice: as long as the media is the same as before, and the server can *find it*, the clients won't re-download it 02:16 hoodedice But don't you have your own server? 02:16 VanessaE (provided they have it) 02:16 hoodedice Okay, that;s great to know. 02:16 VanessaE oh sure I do, but my servers perform rather crappily compared to some others 02:16 VanessaE ask proller. 02:16 hoodedice proller! 02:16 VanessaE he'll tell you his are 100000000% faster than anyone else 02:16 hoodedice Oh yes I know... 02:16 hoodedice (#sarcasm) 02:17 hoodedice Well, I'll just use celeron's recommended 02:18 hoodedice (And I'm running this off a dual core 1.9 GHz celeron with 4 GB RAM) 02:18 VanessaE even my "almost Vanilla" server can't handle more than around 20 users before it begins to lag (the map just doesn't wanna load faster than a certain rate, despite there being ample hardware resources available). 02:18 VanessaE it routinely hits 35 users at its peak every day 02:18 hoodedice Hmm. We are still a long way from stable 02:18 VanessaE and that's with 8 gigs of RAM on a dual core 3.4 GHz i3. 02:18 hoodedice I'm expecting 5 to 10 users 02:19 VanessaE sapier and I have been working on the problem - it's nor hardware-bound, that much we are sure of. 02:19 hoodedice I can see that 02:19 hoodedice Back in the 0.4.6 days, when I used to play on Peacock's server 02:20 hoodedice Had to reconnect every 15 minutes or so... 02:20 hoodedice Damn laggy otherwise. 02:20 Peacock still lags to hell these days 02:21 Peacock even worse now that there are tons of people connecting and disconnecting every minute, had to code a connection timeout two weeks ago 02:21 hoodedice Ohai Peacock: Sorry for the ping. 02:21 VanessaE proller will tell you that freeminer would have zero lag with 250+ users under the conditions my servers run at. 02:21 hoodedice Oh yes. Man, sometimes I wish I could sue him. 02:21 Peacock not just proller, there are a few users telling me FM is faster 02:21 hoodedice XD 02:21 * us_0gb becomes a bit disheartened hearing that Minetest is running slow even on fast hardware 02:22 Enke Freeminer is faster for me. 02:22 Enke However, It's not insanely faster, and both run at the same practical speed 02:22 Peacock rubensandwich says so too 02:22 hoodedice Peacock: What code timeout? 02:22 hoodedice Can I has that too? 02:22 us_0gb Hmm. Okay, I'll look into Freeminer. After my laptop finally arrives. It's still not here, and I'm being most impatient. 02:23 hoodedice Sad, us_0gb =/ 02:23 Enke In other words, the 10 fps I get is a jump from 45-55, so it's not very noticable on my end. 02:23 Peacock i coded a timeout in between connections so people had time to DL the content before the next person got on 02:23 hoodedice Nice. 02:23 us_0gb Sad indeed. I really hoped it would be waiting for me today when I got off work. 02:23 hoodedice But I don't really need that, 02:23 * Enke likes playing with his DVD-ROM drive when he's bored 02:24 Peacock though after having perused my logs, im entirely confident i had a bot problem 02:24 Peacock *perusing 02:24 hoodedice ? That was correct 02:24 Peacock oups lol 02:25 hoodedice Peacock, what extras do you think are nice for a minetest server to have? 02:25 hoodedice luaJIT and stuff? 02:25 Peacock kick player, a player sqlite instead of player files, and autoclean up of the player info 02:25 Peacock better built in ban (nick and ip) 02:26 Enke http://forum.freeminer.org/threads/getting-the-most-out-of-freeminer-server.48/ 02:26 Enke S'mthing that xyz did. 02:26 hoodedice Are those things that are already available for addition? 02:26 Peacock bot detection would be nice too, right now i do that by matching locations 02:26 Enke He spawned around 100 bots 02:26 Peacock i doubt he'd release them onto other servers though 02:27 hoodedice I don't think I'll get bots, so yeah, out of the question. 02:27 Peacock it was either some pathetic child, or some pathetically jealous admin lol 02:27 hoodedice what's this player sqlite? Is there a dload link on the forum? Or is it compiled with the mt build? 02:28 Peacock thats engine stuff, i dont do engine stuff, i just think it's stupid to have seperate files for each player, and to load them *all* into memory 02:28 Peacock 1 week of operation = 5K files 02:28 Peacock ironically, windows file explorer does a better job of loading 5k files than thunar lol 02:29 hoodedice I think I will just set up a basic server and then get back when I feel that I need something 02:29 hoodedice You know you're addicted to Linux. 02:29 Enke 5K = 5000 files or 5KB? 02:29 hoodedice When you call windows a crappy distro 02:29 Peacock lol yeah righte, i dualboot on all machines now 02:29 hoodedice And 'This Computer' as 'file explorer' 02:30 hoodedice (cite: Windows 8.1) 02:30 Peacock hoodedice one word of advice, make players register before letting them on :P 02:30 Enke Windows 8/8.1 *Shivers* 02:30 hoodedice Enke, DIE! 02:30 hoodedice I love windows 8.1 02:30 Enke I don't like it. 02:30 hoodedice I was actually contemplating installing xubuntu on this laptop 02:31 Enke Specs? 02:31 hoodedice Ah yes, Peacock, closed server it is. 02:31 hoodedice 1.9 GHz dual-core celeron 02:31 hoodedice 4 GB RAM 02:31 hoodedice intel HD 2500 OEM 02:31 Peacock ill be keeping a table of registered users, and anyone not on it gets refused at prejoin :p 02:31 Enke So, about what I've got, except I've got and AMD processor 02:31 hoodedice ten-point touchscreen XD 02:32 hoodedice (lolololol) 02:32 Enke No touchscreen. 02:32 hoodedice Peacock: Automated process? 02:32 Peacock well you just use prejoin, it gives you name and ip 02:32 hoodedice And how exactly do I go about doing that? Mod? 02:33 Peacock like all things: mod yeah :p 02:33 Peacock im still missing a few functions but i'll send it your way once its done 02:33 hoodedice Still building? hmm. 02:34 Peacock i got alot of shit to update, im using mods from an older game of mine for the next map 02:34 hoodedice hmm. ok. 02:34 Peacock even though its got 4x the nodes, it's alot faster than the last game i made 02:35 Peacock either due to landrush or tek but they're both out this time 02:35 hoodedice FOr now, I'll just be building minetest to match with sfan's bild 02:35 hoodedice How come? 02:35 Peacock i think the claims in landrush were probably too small so you had to have many per user, and they were all loaded into memory 02:36 Peacock so i wrote a semi autonomous areas thingy where the server admin (me) creates areas. each area has its mayor who can add people to them 02:37 Peacock that translates into half a dozen claims instead of dozens of claim per big building lol 02:37 Peacock (half dozen for the whole map) 02:37 Peacock what people do to each other inside their areas is no business of mine lol the mayor can boot griefers from his area 02:37 hoodedice Nice. Though again, I won't be needing that lol 02:37 Peacock not if you vet your players 02:38 hoodedice vet? 02:38 Peacock make sure theyre not assholes/proxies/bots before letting them on 02:39 hoodedice Yes. This server is only for this certin community I used to be on 02:39 hoodedice I'm like getting only active non-troll members on. 02:39 hoodedice Probably won't even be a public server. 02:40 hoodedice Also, Peacock, is LuaJIT worth it? 02:56 VanessaE yes, it is. 02:58 hoodedice Thank you. 02:58 hoodedice How do I include that when compiling an ubuntu build? I'm following the directions on the wiki 02:58 Peacock sorry was finishing dishes 02:59 hoodedice YOUR WIFE DOESN'T DO DISHES? 02:59 hoodedice =O 02:59 hoodedice THE HORROR! 02:59 Peacock naw, they usually come out as dirty when she does em lol 03:00 hoodedice Also, no problem. 03:00 hoodedice XD 03:00 Peacock or with soap residue 03:00 hoodedice profl 03:00 Peacock females... lol 03:01 Peacock she's just as dangerous with the cooking lol cross-contamination, under-cooked meat, fires, etc. lol 03:03 Peacock and she does geezer-style seasoning (re, not nearly spicy enough) 03:03 hoodedice And then they ask "Why did you marry her then?" 03:03 Peacock big tits 03:04 Peacock :P 03:04 hoodedice *facepalm* 03:04 Peacock please, you should hear what she says about me lol 03:04 hoodedice Sometimes I wish I never grew up. All this nsfw talk gets me like *urgh*. Also, I'm 18 03:05 hoodedice Anyway, how do you add LuaJIT while compiling? 03:05 Peacock i think you need libluajit common and dev 03:05 hoodedice Okay,, suppose I have those 03:06 hoodedice How do I actually make the compiler procees that as well 03:06 hoodedice ? 03:06 Peacock if its installed it finds it on its own 03:06 hoodedice nice. 03:07 hoodedice Also, wtf with this overheating? 03:07 hoodedice tlp, where are you? 03:07 Peacock overheating? 03:08 hoodedice yeah, laptop. 03:08 Peacock by how much? 03:08 hoodedice It's not even the CPU, somewhere around where the hard disk must be 03:09 hoodedice or maybe the GPU 03:09 Peacock probably the battery 03:09 hoodedice Not the battery 03:09 hoodedice Doesn't happen in Windows 03:09 Peacock linux acpi sucks lol 03:09 hoodedice =/ 03:09 Peacock (power management for laptops running linux i mean) 03:09 hoodedice I get it. 03:10 Peacock well you always have to make sure, people here love pouncing on semantics lol 03:10 Peacock (thats when you know they're out of arguments :P) 03:11 Peacock though i think you can install cpufreq or something like that and setup a powersaving profile 03:11 hoodedice I don't think it's the cpu... 03:11 hoodedice Cold air out of the vent 03:11 hoodedice Only this base. 03:11 Peacock well if its the gpu... what gfx driver you running? 03:12 hoodedice The one that shipped by default 03:12 Peacock your laptop shipped with linux by default? 03:12 hoodedice I'll be adding the intel official drivers later on 03:12 hoodedice the drivers that shipped with Xubuntu by default 03:13 Peacock well yeah thats not gonna help an overheating gpu 03:13 Peacock opensauce drivers suck with fan control 03:13 Peacock thats if they can read the sensors properly at all 03:14 hoodedice I'll be editing the tlp files for now. 03:14 hoodedice What was that graphical sudo command? sudogk 03:14 Peacock read a funny article on slashdot the other day about how nouveau now supports opengl 3.3 lol catalyst driver is at 4.2.###### 03:15 hoodedice Well, at least they're trying. 03:16 Peacock yeah but their efforts could be better spent coming up with say, a decent video editor 03:16 Peacock or drivers for hundreds of peripherals that aren't supported at all in linux lol 03:17 hoodedice oooh! 03:17 hoodedice I think I can overclock here! 03:19 Peacock hm, does linux support 3tb drives? 03:19 hoodedice Dunno. I'm using 80 GB only 03:19 hoodedice Set up xubuntu just for mt server 03:20 hoodedice 8.1 blows ubuntu out of the water, 03:20 hoodedice (TRAITOR!) 03:26 hoodedice Installing intel drivers is a breeze. nVidia and AMD should learn a lesson 03:26 hoodedice "nNidia, f*** you" -Linus Torvalds 03:26 hoodedice *nVidia 03:28 dad1 ttt 03:29 hoodedice ? 03:29 dad1 just testing.. 03:30 hoodedice This is #minetest 03:30 dad1 ya, I know. I've just been reading up on it and reading the wiki, it led me here 03:31 hoodedice Ok, welcome to the minetest IRC. How may we assist you today? 03:31 dad1 started out checking it for the kids, then all of a sudden I seem to be playing it quite a lot..lol 03:31 dad1 so far I'm ok, just doing the reading right now on how everything works 03:32 hoodedice Do you require assistance with rehabilitation support for intense addiction with free and open voxel based sandbox games? 03:32 dad1 haha.....got me...lol 03:32 dad1 I just got out of flight sim rehab too 03:33 hoodedice Please feel free to register with the forums. The IRC tends to get quite off-topic. And empty. 03:33 hoodedice Lemme guess, flight gear? 03:33 dad1 ok, ty anyways. 03:33 dad1 Xplane 03:33 hoodedice Aw. 03:33 hoodedice You paid $80 for that? 03:33 dad1 I have Xplane working quite well on linux now 03:34 dad1 about 45 really, but it works pretty much out of the box 03:34 hoodedice Hmm. I played it on android once. As realistic as a brick. 03:35 hoodedice On PC, the controls were crappy. 03:35 dad1 I also played BMS falcon a lot, but it requires a win to work 03:35 hoodedice Nice dad. Educating your kids with FOSS, I see =) 03:35 dad1 I have saitek controls its really decent 03:35 dad1 lol 03:36 dad1 ty for the chat, see you around.. 03:36 hoodedice ok 03:37 hoodedice !next 03:37 MinetestBot Another satisfied customer. Next! 03:39 * hoodedice is rebooting. Might be back. 03:51 fwilson !next 03:51 MinetestBot Another satisfied customer. Next! 03:51 fwilson lol 03:51 Peacock minetestbot is a prostitute now 03:52 fwilson .-. 03:52 Peacock !clevelandsteamer 03:52 Peacock !10dolla 03:53 hoodedice VanessaE, I'm building MT on ubuntu, for ubuntu. I downloaded the depends 03:53 hoodedice But I need a build of a certain commit 03:53 hoodedice NOT the latest one 03:54 VanessaE git reset --hard <that commit ID> 03:54 VanessaE then cmake/make as usual. 03:54 VanessaE I assume you git cloned the sources. 03:54 hoodedice I'm doing it for the first time. Can you please elaborate? 03:54 hoodedice I sudo apt-add installed it 03:54 VanessaE erm 03:55 VanessaE you installed what exactly? 03:55 hoodedice I see that the wiki uses wget. 03:55 hoodedice The dependencies 03:55 VanessaE ok that's fine. 03:55 VanessaE now to get the sources, 03:55 hoodedice http://dev.minetest.net/Compiling_Minetest 03:55 VanessaE git clone https://github.com/minetest/minetest.git 03:55 VanessaE cd minetest 03:55 hoodedice Yeah, but that'll fetch latest 03:55 VanessaE git reset --hard <the commit ID you want to stop at> 03:56 hoodedice okay. full commit id? 03:56 VanessaE cmake . -DRUN_IN_PLACE= foo bar blah etc; make -jwhatever 03:56 VanessaE yes, the full ID, but the first several digits might work too 03:56 VanessaE (I always use the full ID) 03:56 hoodedice The rest can do. Only stuck at getting the correct commit. 03:56 hoodedice Brb. Will try it out 03:58 hoodedice So how long will the clone stay at that commit? Until a new commit is made, or until I clone it again? 03:58 VanessaE it'll stay there until you pull or reclone. 03:59 hoodedice Ok, folder is set up, thank you very much Van. 04:00 hoodedice That j option has something to do with cores AFAIK 04:00 VanessaE yeah 04:00 ShadowNinja ~aka add next echo Another satisfied customer. Next! 04:00 ShadowBot ShadowNinja: O.K. 04:00 hoodedice I have two. What should I put in there? 04:00 VanessaE #cores + 1 or 2 04:00 VanessaE so do -j3 or -j4 04:00 ShadowNinja Aaaand, feature copied. :-) 04:00 hoodedice okay 04:01 ShadowNinja phrik had that first though... (A bot similar to ShadowBot) 04:01 hoodedice !next 04:01 MinetestBot Another satisfied customer. Next! 04:01 hoodedice @Shadow: =P 04:02 hoodedice 1 warning... 04:05 ShadowNinja hoodedice: You should actually use git checkout <SHA>, not git reset --hard <SHA>. 04:06 hoodedice Tell that to VanessaE XD. She's the one who told me 04:06 VanessaE force of habit 04:06 VanessaE I always get myself into trouble with git checkout... 04:07 VanessaE (at least if it isn't a branch I know exists locally e.g. a "real" branch) 04:09 hoodedice 3 warnings, Do you want them Shadow? 04:12 hoodedice Darn, forgot minetest_game. 04:14 VanessaE bbl. bedtime. 04:15 hoodedice Last Q 04:15 hoodedice ! 04:15 hoodedice What do I do with all these cmake files? 06:42 MinetestBot GIT: Uberi commited to Uberi/MineTest-WorldEdit: Merge pull request #33 from electricface/master https://gi 2014-01-27T22:41:26-08:00 http://git.io/an6L9g 06:42 MinetestBot GIT: electricface commited to Uberi/MineTest-WorldEdit: //fixedpos No commas between the numbers https://gi 2014-01-27T20:23:47-08:00 http://git.io/ZTwsAg 06:44 reactor Eh! 07:49 * RealBadAngel yawns 07:49 * reactor throws some itch powder in RealBadAngel's mouth. 07:51 RealBadAngel ouch 08:30 specing proller: wtf, a 27 node long section of the road just went missing 08:31 specing Sokomine: I see you were @ Road 08:56 proller specing, maybe not loaded block. try to rejoin 09:01 proller VanessaE, hoodedice wat? 09:12 specing proller: it is loaded, because there are several more 3-long and other lenghts missing 09:12 specing and some cobble stairs 09:13 Peacock im disappointed, you did not ping me 09:28 specing Peacock: so sorry ;) 09:28 Peacock are you ashamed of our love? 09:28 Peacock :P 09:36 specing Peacock: indeed 09:43 hoodedice Peacock: Still awake? 09:51 Peacock yeah i still got a few beers left to go :P 09:57 hoodedice v7 vs paramat's lua mapgen 09:57 hoodedice I can't decide which one to use 09:58 Peacock paramat's are more interesting (and complete) 09:58 Peacock though 3 years of MT its no surprise im a little bored with the default stuff 09:59 hoodedice Yes, they are indeed 'complete' 09:59 hoodedice Bt they lack some stuff found in PilzAdam'snodetopia 10:02 Peacock well im pretty sure pa didn't write a mapgen, he provides a game, mapgens are just terrain 10:05 hoodedice He wrote the biomes code 10:05 hoodedice For v7 10:05 Peacock yeah but biomes is what's on the surface, it doesn't create mountains or rivers or define elevation 10:05 hoodedice Someone should just get over it and finish off v7 already. 10:06 hoodedice Yes, it doesn't, but still better than just snow 10:07 hoodedice That doge server... still up? 10:12 Peacock the last incarnation no 10:12 Peacock working on the next one 10:13 Peacock (most of that work is adapting old mods of mine to newer versions of MT) 10:23 hoodedice Peacock: How can I kick ALL players, except those with specific nicks? 10:26 Peacock that sounds tricky 10:27 Peacock im not even sure the kick functions been pulled yet 10:27 Peacock all i can do right now is prevent unapproved nicks from logging on 10:28 hoodedice Your code? The one you told me last night? 10:29 reactor ...can you initiate disconnection using system utilities? 10:29 reactor Firewall for sure, but it's too expensive to modify rules because of some fuck 10:32 reactor Oh yeah. 10:32 reactor tcpdrop 10:32 reactor Use it to kick players? 10:32 proller specing, tnt pull ! 10:36 hoodedice Peacock, kick functions HAVE been pulled. 10:36 hoodedice kaeza's mod came out on 13-12-13 10:44 Peacock ill have to update some time, i hear voxmynips has param2 as well 10:45 hoodedice Yes, added maybe 2 days ago 10:46 hoodedice So I guess coloured lights can be added now? 10:50 Peacock id be more eager to upgrade if most of the devs could agree on shit lol 10:50 hoodedice XD 10:50 Peacock right now i cant help but think things might change or change back lol 10:51 Peacock as for coloured lights, dont know why you're asking, if it ever gets done it wont be by me lol 10:51 Peacock *asking me 10:54 hoodedice lol 10:54 hoodedice Just speculating if its now possible 10:55 Peacock it's always been possible, the willpower depends on who's in charge :P 10:55 hoodedice Put a doge reference on a site. used Comic Sans for fon't. Y U NO WORK? 10:55 hoodedice Realised. Xubuntu -.- 10:56 Peacock its funny we have like half a dozen shaders, and one light color lol 10:57 hoodedice Is that a lot? 10:57 hoodedice 6 shaders? 10:57 Peacock and half a dozen texture thingies too, none of which i can tell the difference with my eye sight lol 10:57 reactor Haven't there been coloured light blocks in Mesecons? Or do these emit white light regardless? 10:58 Peacock likely white light 10:58 hoodedice white light thru a yellow block 10:59 hoodedice Just like in real life XP 11:00 hoodedice NICE! 11:00 hoodedice https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=3653 11:01 hoodedice Just make a nice room with a door, lock it and allow access to players that are pre-registered only 11:23 hoodedice DAMN! 11:23 hoodedice I cloned mods into /bin 11:23 hoodedice How do I move them into /mods? 11:29 specing proller: exams :( 11:31 hoodedice specing: Can you help me out with fixing my clones? 11:31 hoodedice Will a simple git mv be sufficient? 11:32 specing hoodedice: did you commit them? 11:32 hoodedice I just 'git clone' ed them in a terminal 11:32 specing then mv them 11:32 hoodedice That'll work? 11:32 specing not git mv, the ordinary mv 11:32 specing it should 11:33 hoodedice But what about updating? 11:33 specing cd into mod, git pull? 11:33 hoodedice wow. 11:33 specing very git 11:33 hoodedice What about renaming. Will updating work even after renaming? 11:34 hoodedice *renaming folders 11:56 specing hoodedice: try 12:09 hoodedice git pull is only updating minetest... Weird 12:10 hoodedice Maybe also because all mods are already updated. 12:11 hoodedice Thanks a lot 12:54 sfan5 meow 12:54 sfan5 hi everyone 12:56 us_0gb Hello sfan5! 12:57 PenguinDad squawk 12:57 PenguinDad hi sfan5 13:37 VanessaE hi 15:36 VanessaE hah! 15:37 hoodedice Anyone? 15:37 hoodedice I got PilzAdam's nodetopia, but it is breaking mod compatibility 15:37 VanessaE I looked up "god damn it" on a web search to get someone a reference on the origin of the phrase and its religious meaning (e.g. taking G*d's name in vain)....Wikipedia article on "damnation" came up....and it won't load. I guess G*d damned Wikipedia :D 15:37 hoodedice I want the mapgen, but with working mods 15:38 VanessaE doesn't it use mapgen v7? 15:39 hoodedice Yes 15:39 hoodedice With biomes 15:39 hoodedice ie, it has something else than stone too. 15:40 hoodedice the problem is with default, creative, blah blah 15:40 * VanessaE pokes hmmmm 15:40 hoodedice I'm thinking of copy-pasting all those into nodetopia's mods 15:40 VanessaE mind you mgv7 is apparently considered.....unstable. 15:40 hoodedice As in? It was very stable as fas as I'd seen 15:41 hoodedice And I'm only playing creative. I just need the landscapes and canyons 15:42 hoodedice VanessaE, Also, this works for me en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damnation 15:42 hoodedice Didn't know damn had such a deep meaning XD 15:43 VanessaE it worked on the second try. I was trying to make a joke. 15:43 VanessaE also, stable as in the API I guess is subject to change 15:44 hoodedice Won't mind that. If anything breaks I'll just use WE to transfer objects 15:48 hoodedice So... 15:48 hoodedice I'll jst copy paste everything needed from minetest_game for now 15:55 Javafant Hi 15:56 hoodedice Hello. Welcome to #minetest. How can we help you today? 15:56 PenguinDad hi Javafant 15:56 Javafant I'm having some trouble getting a minetestserver to run 15:56 hoodedice Can you please elaborate on your problem? 15:56 Javafant A friend of mine tried to update it to 0.4.9 and now I can't reach it anymore. 15:57 Javafant the client gets time outs. 15:57 Javafant and the server output doesn't even show that the client is trying to connect 15:57 hoodedice Has your friend forwarded the port correctly? 15:57 Javafant it's a root server so no need to forward the port. 15:57 Javafant I also triet using an ssh tunnel. 15:58 Javafant didn't change a thing. 15:58 harrison can't chat -- must code -- 04,00the code is all! 15:58 Javafant telnet localhost 30000 didn't work either. 15:58 ShadowNinja Javafant: Minetest's ptotocol uses UDP, telnet is TCP. 15:58 Javafant ah that explains that :) 15:59 Javafant is there a way to test if somethings running on a udp port? 15:59 ShadowNinja Javafant: What's the server's address? 15:59 Javafant spiele.frickelbox.de 15:59 Javafant the server's not runnig currently, wait 15:59 Javafant now it's running 15:59 ShadowNinja ~up spiele.frickelbox.de 15:59 ShadowBot ShadowNinja: spiele.frickelbox.de port 30000 is up (701ms) 16:00 ShadowNinja It looks like it's working. 16:00 Javafant then why am I getting timeouts when I try to connect? 16:01 hoodedice Even I can't connect. 16:01 ShadowNinja I don't know. Are you setting the address and port correctly? 16:01 Javafant I think so. 16:01 ShadowNinja No ban ALL THE THINGS mods. ;-) 16:01 ShadowNinja s/./?/ 16:02 hoodedice eh? 16:02 hoodedice !up spiele.frickelbox.de:30000 16:02 MinetestBot hoodedice: Syntax changed, please use 'example.org 1337' instead of 'example.org:1337' 16:02 hoodedice !up spiele.frickelbox.de 30000 16:02 MinetestBot spiele.frickelbox.de:30000 is up (152ms) 16:02 Javafant oh now I get a server output 16:02 hoodedice That's weird. 16:03 Javafant resending timed-out reliable to … 16:04 ShadowNinja 0.4.9-dev might be better... 16:04 Javafant so git master branch? 16:04 ShadowNinja Yep. There's been lots of network work recently. 16:05 hoodedice Sir, I think I've resolved yor case. 16:05 hoodedice *your 16:05 PenguinDad with git master i was able to connect to the server 16:05 Javafant hoodedice: git master? 16:05 hoodedice Enter the server address into a browser. 16:05 Javafant and? 16:05 hoodedice There will be an IP Address there. Type that into Minetest client and you're good to go 16:06 Javafant wtf 16:06 hoodedice It works on my side, sir. 16:06 Javafant yep 16:06 Javafant seems to work 16:06 * Javafant is confused 16:06 hoodedice I hope that helped, sir? 16:06 Javafant yep, thx 16:06 hoodedice Thank you for visiting #minetest 16:07 hoodedice !next 16:07 MinetestBot Another satisfied customer. Next! 16:07 Javafant hehe :) 16:07 hoodedice YEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAHHHHH! 16:07 hoodedice I wanted to do that like bad! 16:07 MinetestBot 4*4h4o7o7d7e8d8i8c3e3 3r12e12c12e6i6v6e13s13 13a4 4c4o7o7k7i8e8 8f3r3o3m12 12M12i6n6e6t13e13s13t4B4o4t7* 16:08 Javafant any idea what could be causing this? 16:08 Javafant PenguinDad: did you enter the ip directly? 16:09 PenguinDad nope, I entered the domain name 16:09 Javafant ah k 16:29 Jordach meow 16:29 VanessaE hi 16:29 Jordach i was toying with one of blender's new features 16:30 hoodedice hey Jordach 16:31 Jordach OUCH 16:31 Jordach .png weighs in at 8mb 16:33 Jordach VanessaE, i was bored and had some of my old pictures from photography 16:34 VanessaE ? 16:34 Jordach hold on 16:35 hoodedice Later people 16:36 hoodedice And does MinetestBot really give out cookies? OR is there a way to make it do so without someone typing out the command? 16:36 Jordach http://jordach.deviantart.com/art/Photography-and-Blender-430137937 16:37 Jordach something different :) 16:37 VanessaE interesting. 16:37 Jordach VanessaE, the shadow is oddly accurate :) 16:38 Jordach i'm probably going to experiment further 16:40 sfan5 why is autoconf/make/whatever so painful 16:41 Jordach http://xkcd.com/416/ 16:59 * Jordach looks at Transmission; 700kb/s down, *seconds later* 40kb/s down 17:04 * Jordach sees synergy(?!) in #minecraft 17:35 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 17:36 Jordach ello 17:36 VanessaE hi 17:44 hoodedice Anyone has a copy of Bumped by RBA? 17:45 hoodedice texture pack 17:45 PilzAdam quote of the day: "What is a new versone for a minetest 0.5.0 0.5.1 0.5.2 or 0.5.3" 17:45 hoodedice XD. I saw that 17:46 hoodedice Anyway PilzAdam, is there a way to use your nodetopia's mapgen in minetest_game? 17:46 PilzAdam probably 17:47 hoodedice Hrm. Why did you define new nodes? 17:47 hoodedice Oh, of course custom game... 17:47 hoodedice I'm so stupid 17:48 PilzAdam yes you are 17:48 PilzAdam :-p 17:48 hoodedice Thank you. 17:48 hoodedice !next 17:48 MinetestBot Another satisfied customer. Next! 18:12 hoodedice Hey rubenwardy 18:12 rubenwardy Hio 18:12 hoodedice Compiled my first build last night. Feels like awesome. 18:17 * Jordach considers something new 18:20 hoodedice Go Home Jordach! 18:20 hoodedice You're a traitor, Jordach 18:20 hoodedice XD 18:21 hoodedice *flies away* 18:21 Jordach lol 18:22 ShadowNinja We've set up a test forum at phpbb.minetest.net. This may replace the current forum if all goes well. Comments on it? (Yes, it needs a theme, working on that) 18:22 Jordach i'm going to pull the ENTIRE SKIN LIBRARY of addi's in a special render 18:24 Jordach think array modifier in blender + 75 skins 18:24 VanessaE pfft I have 109 skins in my small library. 18:26 Jordach VanessaE, you don't realise how much space 75 skins * 12 * 12 18:26 Jordach requires in a blend, do you? 18:27 PilzAdam ShadowNinja, eh.. Im not a member of "members"? 18:28 VanessaE how much space would that be? 18:28 ShadowNinja PilzAdam: You're in that group, and in the Developers group. I guess members is your default group... 18:28 Jordach VanessaE, think 1 player = 1m^2 (they take 1 block 1*1*2) 18:28 VanessaE oh you meant visually 18:29 VanessaE thought you were talking storage requirements 18:29 PilzAdam ShadowNinja, no, it lists "Members" as "Non-Memperships" 18:29 Jordach !c 75*1.5*1.5*2 18:29 MinetestBot 337.5 18:29 Jordach 337.5 blocks required (1.5m spacing) 18:29 PilzAdam where can I change the style? 18:29 ShadowNinja PilzAdam: What?! 18:30 ShadowNinja PilzAdam: Only Prosilver is enabled ATM. 18:30 ShadowNinja (But you can change it in your UCP) 18:31 PilzAdam wtf is that animated gif next to topics? 18:32 PilzAdam and why isnt there a "New Posts" link in the topic list? 18:33 PilzAdam oh, there is one, but its like 0.5 x 0.5 pixels 18:37 ShadowNinja Developer is your default group now, and you have the text for it. 18:38 ShadowNinja s/text/title/ 18:38 PilzAdam I dont like the stlye 18:41 sfan5 ShadowNinja: can we please use a theme that looks more minetesty atleast 18:41 sfan5 ? 18:41 sfan5 i want to know how it would look.. 18:43 PilzAdam the search is as bad as the current one: http://phpbb.minetest.net/search.php?keywords=carts 18:43 PilzAdam ... why is [code] green? 18:47 PilzAdam and why exactly can I read "trash" and "Moderator talk"? ;-) 18:49 Jordach we've already got a working solution, why FIX IT? 18:49 PilzAdam ShadowNinja, ehm, all links to topics will be broken 18:49 PilzAdam I guess thats enough to not move 18:49 VanessaE Jordach: two words: edit history. 18:50 VanessaE Jordach: two more words: rage quits. 18:50 sfan5 Vadtec: two words: fork PunBB 18:50 sfan5 damnit 18:50 sfan5 VanessaE* 18:50 VanessaE lol tab complete FAIL :) 18:51 ShadowNinja sfan5: Yes, I already said I'm working on that. 18:51 VanessaE sfan5: by the way this stuff has been reading, it would be easier/less work to switch to phpbb or anything else besides punbb than it would be to fork and fix it 18:51 sfan5 ik, but what about <PilzAdam> all links to topics will be broken ? 18:51 ShadowNinja PilzAdam: Hmmm, maybe you're set as a mod or I messed up the forum privs... 18:52 VanessaE I'm still not clear what he meant by that.... 18:52 VanessaE oh 18:52 VanessaE one post links to another, etc. 18:52 VanessaE that would be a problem for sure, yeah 18:52 ShadowNinja sfan5: Well, there's nothing we can do but leave oldfoeum.minetest.net or similar. 18:52 Jordach mmm 18:53 VanessaE mark all the old stuff as read-only, delete all the old content that isn't linked-to from the new forum. 18:53 Jordach raspberry milkshake :) 18:53 PilzAdam http://phpbb.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=127474&f=3#p127474 18:53 VanessaE (or which has no links to it from within the old forum) 18:53 PilzAdam ^^ ShadowNinja 18:55 VanessaE well it's only a difference between ?pid= and ?p= isn't it? 18:55 ShadowNinja PilzAdam: Stop mentioning the style! It will be changed! 18:55 VanessaE can't that be translated somehow? 18:55 VanessaE (ignoring the subdomain, which I presume will be changed) 18:55 ShadowNinja The IDs might be different, but it might be doable with a mod. 18:56 ShadowNinja BBL. 18:56 VanessaE well let's assume all the new post IDs start at some number guaranteed to be higher than the hghest ID of the old forum + 1000 or something 18:56 VanessaE then such a translation should (in theory) be fairly simple. 19:15 MinetestBot GIT: Uberi commited to Uberi/MineTest-WorldEdit: Fix chat commands display. https://gi 2014-01-28T11:14:36-08:00 http://git.io/oDzf-A 19:22 EvergreenTree o/ 19:24 twoelk hm, where can I download a forum backup before it gets lost in transition? 19:26 VanessaE hey EvergreenTree 19:31 VanessaE twoelk: [01-28 14:30] <xyz> VanessaE: there http://a.pomf.se/nwqzhf.tar.gz 19:32 twoelk oops you get what you ask for ;-p 19:34 twoelk that was rather a sarcastic comment than a request .... but I wonder what I can do with that file ... might be interesting 19:35 VanessaE it might be useful, who knows. if a post gets garbled during the transfer, it can be restored manually if necessary 19:50 PilzAdam heh https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/1112#issuecomment-33510913 19:56 Jordach lol waypoints (we need REI's minimap now!) 19:58 VanessaE given how many people clamor for a map, maybe it's time a client-side feature were added for that. 20:08 VanessaE ShadowNinja, PilzAdam: small glitch error in farming: you can till someone's lawn even if they own it (areas mod, uses the engine's protection function afaik) 20:09 VanessaE s/till/hoe/ 20:09 * Jordach uses a cash register to ho VanessaE's lawn 20:10 VanessaE till 1 (tÄl) - tr.v. tilled, till·ing, tills - To prepare (land) for the raising of crops, as by plowing and harrowing; cultivate. 20:10 VanessaE so :P 20:35 PilzAdam my vote for topic of the week: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=127655#p127655 20:36 PilzAdam bye 21:36 specing wow 22:01 reactor Pwned. 22:51 Exio4 WE ALL LIVE IN A YELLOW SUBMARINE, YELLOW SUBMARINE, YELLOW SUBMARINE 22:55 Enke What kind of song is that? 22:55 Exio4 http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/beatles/yellowsubmarine.html 22:57 Exio4 how funny, no internet for like an hour and half and coded something that took me 4~ hours w/ internet 22:57 Enke I wonder why? 22:58 Enke :P 22:58 EvergreenTree :P 22:58 Enke Ninja'd! 22:58 Exio4 baby you can drive my car ~ and maybe i love you ~ 22:59 Exio4 i only have 11mb left in my 3g plan so i'm out 22:59 Exio4 bye bye now 23:06 twoelk is it good or bad now that irc has no sound? 23:08 Enke Very very very very very very good. 23:09 EvergreenTree ^ Very good 23:10 Enke Did we mention that it was very good. 23:10 Enke *? 23:22 Peacock ^ for a second i thought you were harrison :P 23:22 Peacock had another window overlapping on xchat 23:23 Peacock ah, sweet sweet coffee lol tho 6pm is a little late to be waking up 23:24 Peacock even stranger is making dinner at 8am XD 23:33 Peacock paramat does archipelago use setmgparams to disable mudflow or do it have to add it? 23:34 paramat hi Peacock, i decided to convert 'moonrealm' into a moon mod, so far i have vacuum nodes that drown the player unless they have a spacesuit in inventory, also auto-setting of gravity when entering or leaving the realm, next footprints 23:34 paramat Peacock, you have to add it 23:35 Peacock actually, will adding it after having created the map make any difference? 23:36 Peacock does this look right? http://pastebin.com/EQWEf104 23:36 paramat i cant remember if flags can be reset ... 23:37 Peacock well i can probably edit the file in the world folder, future gen should be fixed 23:38 paramat are you using 049dev or 048 + hmmmmm's nomudflow commit? 23:38 Peacock testing today's git and FM at the same time 23:38 paramat hehe 23:38 Peacock nothing like side-by-side comparison :p 23:39 paramat the pastebin looks okay ... as far as i know 23:39 twoelk seems FM has no pillar jumping 23:40 Peacock wait do i need to add the other flags to that function like trees caves and biomes blend 23:40 Peacock pillar jumping? 23:41 paramat not sure ... it confuses me :) 23:41 twoelk jump place block under your feet = gain hight 23:41 Peacock lets test it out with a test map 23:41 Peacock gimme a min or two 23:44 Peacock nope did something wrong 23:44 Peacock frak i forgot v6_ lol 23:45 paramat yeah if you're using 'set mapgen params' i would set all the other flags there instead of in .conf 23:45 Peacock okay perfect the function adds v6_nomudflow to the flags without removing the other ones :) 23:45 paramat hmmmm posts he intends to redo mapgen params actually ... 23:46 Peacock yeah i saw lol 23:46 Peacock ideally just an api function where you pass a table of params would do fine for most of us lol 23:46 harrison 04,00<john_minetest> "I don't want your damn lemons! What am I supposed to do with these?" 23:46 harrison 04,00<Peacock> ^ for a second i thought you were harrison :P 23:47 harrison THIS IS A OUTRAGE! NONE SHALL IMPOSTER THE HARRISON 23:47 Peacock kill the imposter, and dispose of the witnesses 23:48 Peacock honestly i dont know who came up with this mudflow, but it looks god damn awful lol perfect square outlines and blocks of dirt ontop trees, i always thought it was a bug XD 23:49 Peacock ive never been in a mudslide but ive seen YT's of it, they tend to push things like, oh, trees, roads and houses out of their way, rather than flow over it lol 23:51 twoelk there was a raining gravel bug on VE-creative once, looked like dirty snow 23:51 paramat :D flow mud is celeron's work 23:52 paramat it just flows mud off sheer cliff edges to the ground below i think, if you fly around fast you can see it happening at mapgen time 23:52 Peacock lol i dont get that if he doesn't like weather why code such a feature? lol 23:53 Peacock "im not satisfied with the mapgen griefing via caves so let's add mud flow!" XD 23:53 Peacock (just poking fun) 23:54 twoelk yeah, tree griefing caves are not nice 23:55 paramat Peacock, remember to redefine default:ice with 'is ground content = false' to avoid those largecavegen holes along chunk edges 23:57 twoelk I wonder if highland ponds could be added to Mt.Meru 23:57 Peacock right now im trying to figure how to add those two conf settings to set_mapgen_params :/ 23:58 Peacock (biome,freq_desert) 23:59 paramat so ideally mud should not flow over chunk borders, but it does because otherwise default mapgen would have lines of nomudflow along chunk borders, trees grow over borders to for the same reason ... and large caves :)