Time  Nick            Message
01:00 lordawe         hello
01:01 lordawe         pls, when creating a new world, what does the seed do?
01:02 VanessaE        it defines the map itself
01:02 VanessaE        it's a seed to the perlin noise generator
01:02 lordawe         and which world generator do you prefer?
01:02 VanessaE        I use v6 but others have different preferences.
01:02 lordawe         ty VanessaE
01:02 VanessaE        sure thing
01:02 lordawe         pls
01:02 VanessaE        sooner or later v7 will be ready
01:02 lordawe         i can't install your home decor mod to the 049
01:03 VanessaE        what error do you get?
01:03 lordawe         w8
01:03 VanessaE        pastebin
01:05 lordawe         I am trying it via online mod repo
01:06 lordawe         ERROR: D:gamesminetest049builtinmodstore.lua:320: attempt to index field 'moddetails' (a nil value)
01:06 lordawe         that's it
01:06 VanessaE        eh?
01:07 VanessaE        that got smashed, I need to see the whole error text from your debug.txt file
01:07 VanessaE        please use a pastebin service
01:07 VanessaE        e.g. pastebin.ubuntu.com or so
01:07 VanessaE        oh wait
01:07 VanessaE        that's not a homedecor error
01:07 VanessaE        that's an error with the mod store's code
01:08 VanessaE        but lemme see if I can correct it by uploading a new version to the store
01:08 VanessaE        one moment please.
01:08 lordawe         http://pastebin.com/0jD76Jb5
01:09 lordawe         i see
01:12 lordawe         VanessaE, you're right, it gives me the same error when installing MOB framework
01:12 lordawe         but others are fine
01:14 VanessaE        there, I deleted it and uploaded a new version
01:14 VanessaE        have to wait for someone to approve it though
01:15 lordawe         i see
01:16 lordawe         ty
01:17 lordawe         i will install it manually
01:19 VanessaE        https://github.com/VanessaE/homedecor_modpack
01:19 VanessaE        get the latest from there.
01:19 lordawe         okay
01:19 VanessaE        idk if it'll work on 0.4.9-release, I don't usually use stable releases :)
01:19 VanessaE        if it doesn't work, get a development build of Minetest :)
01:19 lordawe         :) fun
01:22 kahrl           MinetestBot, Y U not here?
01:22 AspireMint      is place_node(pos, node) function clientside or serverside ? (client? because it return "ignore" if chunk is not loaded :S )
01:23 VanessaE        server-side.
01:24 AspireMint      hmm.. okay, thanks
01:24 lordawe         as you said, it is not working with latest stable
01:35 AspireMint      oops, not "ignore" but true/false, but it returns false if chunk is not loaded :(
02:38 hoodedice       Sup peeps
02:39 hoodedice       https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/5a34f40d80ea1a339b599bc11db549a6bd86912f
02:39 hoodedice       !title
02:39 ShadowBot       hoodedice: Huge overhaul of the entire MapgenParams system · 5a34f40 · minetest/minetest · GitHub
02:39 hoodedice       What does this do?
02:39 hoodedice       And why did Shadowbot reply?
02:41 ShadowNinja     us_0gb: ShadowBot uses notices to reply when there's an error.  (Like services do)
02:41 us_0gb          ShadowNinja: It's odd that those notices are not directed to my notices tab then.
02:42 us_0gb          I'll ask in #hexchat .
02:42 ShadowNinja     us_0gb: It's a channel notice.  A notice is simply a PRIVMSG that isn't meant to cause a reply, nothing more.
02:42 hoodedice       As in, why didn't MinetestBot reply?
02:42 us_0gb          Ah, I see.
02:43 hoodedice       As in, where is she, anyway?
02:43 ShadowNinja     However some clients apparently interpret it as a Highlight, which isn't what the RFCs say...
02:43 ShadowNinja     -H+h
02:43 ShadowNinja     hoodedice: She left a while ago to go on a date.
02:43 hoodedice       Ah!
02:43 hoodedice       I forgot lol
02:44 hoodedice       Anyway, that link I posted
02:44 Sokomine        does anyone of you know how to spawn a schematic while making sure it does not replace ANY existing nodes? is there a way for that?
02:44 hoodedice       If I restate it in Simple English, does it mean that we now have a proper v7
02:44 hoodedice       ?
02:45 ShadowNinja     Sokomine: Save the area, load the schematic, then reload the area.  :-)
02:45 ShadowNinja     hoodedice: That commit doesn't sound like "Finish MGv7".
02:45 Miner_48er      Sokomine spawn it above target and move it down?
02:46 hoodedice       https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/2927a327cabe4feddc0aeea0f4111d888560612f
02:47 hoodedice       therefore the above refers to the stone only v7?
02:47 Sokomine        ShadowNinja: no, that's not a practical approach there. that mod spawns schematics and thus creates the landscape. now...players join. and...they tend to destroy the landscape, cut down poor trees and such :-)
02:47 Sokomine        and in this particular case, the trees are schematics
02:48 hoodedice       moretrees?
02:49 ShadowNinja     Sokomine: MTSM schematics?  Don't they have a noreplace flag or something like that?
02:51 Sokomine        ShadowNinja: perhaps. i thought there was something like that...that's why i ask
02:51 Sokomine        no, not moretrees. it's about the ethereal mod
03:05 Megaf           folks, my server is saying in out of memory!!
03:05 Megaf           but I still have more than 6 GB free!
03:06 Megaf           actually, it my be my client only complaining
03:06 Megaf           ERROR[main]: WARNING: before.... Invalid name...
03:06 Megaf           Out ofMemory
03:07 hoodedice       Which mod?
03:08 Megaf           hoodedice: nice 747 post by the way
03:08 hoodedice       Thank you ^.^
03:08 hoodedice       I copied it off somewhere anyway
03:08 hoodedice       =P
03:08 Megaf           I know, still nice
03:09 Megaf           well, my issue is client side only, in gonna just ignore that by now
03:09 Megaf           1AM, I no longer thinking anymore
03:09 Megaf           Just listening Queen - Don't Stop Me Now
03:13 VanessaE        Is there a way to get the text that I just sent to someone via forum email (not PM)?  I forgot to keep a copy.
03:14 NekoGloop       you don't because the forums are a piece of shit
03:16 Sokomine        VanessaE: i know of none. perhaps the receipant of the mail received it and can hand you a copy...
03:16 VanessaE        it's okay, chances are he'll reply and quote the whole thing back anyway
03:19 VanessaE        well I sent a PM.  good idea.
03:37 Sokomine        recently, i had a problem with furnaces: placed a row of them with worldedit...and...boom...everything crashed. seems to be the same problem as with the schematics: uninitialized metadata
03:38 Sokomine        i don't know if it happens in current minetest_game (most likely it does)
03:39 VanessaE        https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/commit/d09d8f02a4e2fdb7f315d3231ce721efae6e6902
03:39 VanessaE        at least part of that was fixed anyway
03:45 Sokomine        thanks for the info!
03:46 VanessaE        sure
03:46 VanessaE        :)
03:55 hoodedice       <NekoGloop> you don't because the forums are a piece of shit
03:55 hoodedice       DIE
05:11 AspireMint      .. function minetest.node_dig(pos, node, digger)  generate random "pos" numbers and dont know why :( i hate lua..
05:49 whmark          AspireMint: what do you mean by 'random'?
05:55 us_0gb          minetest.node_dig({x=math.rand(), y=math.rand(), z=math.rand()}, node, digger)
05:55 AspireMint      whmark, first node have position (30,4,20) and second node (above first node) have (30,0,0)
06:13 whmark          AspireMint: can you show us your code?
06:20 whmark          I've added a privilege 'tnt_use' to the tnt mod, that way you can allow trusted players to use tnt. If anyone wants the updated code I'll upload it
06:22 AspireMint      whmark, i think now it works, somewhere in recursive function was bad number :/ , but still there is small problem with meta data..
07:07 rambomedic      who maintains the website?
07:08 rambomedic      nevermind it's c55
07:51 rambomedic      est-dev
08:14 sfan5           there she is
08:14 sfan5           ~config channel #minetest reply.whenAddressedBy.chars ~
08:14 ShadowBot       sfan5: O.K.
08:14 sfan5           !seen ShadowBot
08:14 MinetestBot     sfan5: shadowbot was last seen at 2014-02-15 08:14:29 UTC on #minetest
08:30 whiskers75      ~help
08:30 ShadowBot       whiskers75: help [<plugin>] [<command>]
09:03 RagnarLaud      clear
09:03 RagnarLaud      hi!
09:03 RagnarLaud      VanessaE, I just concured my fears! :D
09:03 RagnarLaud      #SpelledWrongz
09:06 RagnarLaud      *Throws a cup* FINE!
09:11 VanessaE        ehm...
09:11 VanessaE        wut?
10:39 puhfa           a quick question, sorry for asking instead of going through the changelogs: has the 0.4.9 chat crash been fixed yet?
10:49 moggers         Where's the FAQ?
11:52 PilzAdam        Hello everyone!
11:59 reactor         Ehlo.
11:59 Megaf           Hello PilzAdam
11:59 reactor         Jordach: o/
11:59 Megaf           Good morning folks
11:59 reactor         I forgot, have I shown you the map in action?
13:03 phantombeta     Hai
13:04 Jordach         sfan5, http://i.imgur.com/A83KEnU.png
13:05 sfan5           i could do that with a python script, still nice
13:05 Jordach         sfan5, i prefer hand done (tools are for the lazy)
13:14 PilzAdam        Jordach, why do you use gimp then?
13:14 PilzAdam        its a tool
13:14 Jordach         PilzAdam, i meant programmed tools for tools
13:15 PilzAdam        your PC is a tool; gimp is a programmed tool for your PC :-p
13:16 Jordach         do you have to be a perdantic tit?
13:16 Jordach         oh wait, that checkbox was filled in when joining the IRC
13:25 sfan5           !c (16, 16) * 4
13:25 MinetestBot     (16, 16, 16, 16, 16, 16, 16, 16)
13:25 Megaf           What the hell is this? http://paste.debian.net/82193/
13:25 sfan5           !c (16, 16) * (4, 4)
13:25 MinetestBot     TypeError: can't multiply sequence by non-int of type 'tuple'
13:25 PilzAdam        sfan5, wow, thx
13:25 PilzAdam        that really helped me
13:26 sfan5           PilzAdam: no problem, I like to be helpful
13:27 sfan5           ! 16*4
13:27 sfan5           !c 16*4
13:27 MinetestBot     64
13:28 Megaf           Help? http://paste.debian.net/82193/
13:30 cisoun          !b64e "hi !"
13:30 MinetestBot     ImhpICEi
13:30 cisoun          awesome
13:30 Jordach         hey cisoun
13:30 cisoun          !b64e "hey Jordach"
13:30 MinetestBot     ImhleSBKb3JkYWNoIg==
13:31 Jordach         :>
13:34 lordawe         Hello
13:34 lordawe         can you help me with server @ localhost?
13:34 lordawe         pls
13:35 sfan5           lordawe: just ask your question
13:35 lordawe         if i run server normaly it gives me error:
13:35 lordawe         14:29:57: ACTION[main]: World at [D:\games\minetest049server\bin\..\worlds\novy]
13:35 lordawe         14:29:57: ACTION[main]: Server for gameid="minetest" listening on fe80:0:0:0:cda8:4419:9147:726c:30000.
13:35 lordawe         14:29:58: ERROR[main]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: Failed to bind socket (port already in use?)
13:36 sfan5           cisoun: are you that amazed by my bot? :D
13:36 lordawe         really cool
13:36 lordawe         :o(
13:36 lordawe         :)
13:36 sfan5           lordawe: is some other software already listening on port 30000?
13:36 lordawe         no
13:36 sfan5           are you sure
13:36 sfan5           ?
13:37 lordawe         but when i disable ipv6 in .conf it runs but:
13:37 lordawe         14:30:41: ACTION[main]: Server for gameid="minetest" listening on 0.0.0.108:30000.
13:37 lordawe         it should be 127.0.0.1
13:38 sfan5           have you even tried if it works this way?
13:38 sfan5           it also doesn't need to be 127.0.0.1
13:39 lordawe         yes, but it is not wotking
13:39 sfan5           what does it say when you connect to localhost
13:39 lordawe         it just says connecting to server
13:39 sfan5           are you using the right port?
13:40 lordawe         yes
13:40 sfan5           try putting in 0.0.0.108 in the address field
13:41 lordawe         i tried localhost and IP too, it is the same. Previous version 047 worked nicely
13:42 sfan5           try
13:42 sfan5           bind_address = 127.0.0.1
13:42 sfan5           in minetest.conf
13:42 SylvieLorxu     Could anyone remind me how to use custom skins for characters on Minetest again? I recall the wiki being outdated last time
13:43 Jordach         SylvieLorxu, https://github.com/PilzAdam/player_textures
13:43 sfan5           SylvieLorxu: you need a skin mod if you want custom skins for players
13:43 SylvieLorxu     sfan5: That's on the server side?
13:44 sfan5           yes
13:44 sfan5           there are no client-side mods
13:44 lordawe         well, it's strange. i bind address 127.0.0.1 and it shows me 0.0.0.1:30000
13:44 SylvieLorxu     sfan5: I recall changing it client-side but for all players at once, but okay, thanks
13:44 SylvieLorxu     You too for the link, Jordach!
13:44 sfan5           lordawe: try to connect now
13:45 sfan5           0.0.0.1 is likely more correct than 0.0.0.108
13:45 lordawe         14:44:4 ACTION[main]: Server for gameid="minetest" listening on 0.0.0.1:30000.
13:46 lordawe         voila, finaly!
13:47 lordawe         dialog windows says 0.0.0.1:30000 but i connect to 127.0.0.1:30000 and it works
13:47 sfan5           yeah
13:47 lordawe         thank you
13:47 Jordach         0.x.x.x and 127.x.x.x are loopbacks for localhost
13:47 lordawe         it is so confusing
13:47 sfan5           0.0.0.n and 127.0.0.n are the same on windows
13:47 lordawe         ty
13:47 lordawe         bye
13:47 Jordach         !next
13:47 MinetestBot     Another satisfied customer. Next!
13:48 sfan5           !meow
13:48 * sfan5         puts a kitten on Jordach's head
13:48 Jordach         !nope.avi
13:48 sfan5           !yes.mkv
13:48 Jordach         !lolwat.png
13:48 Jordach         sfan5, http://i.imgur.com/ZRmXxY9.png
13:49 sfan5           meow
13:51 cisoun          sfan5: sorry, yes that's a pretty cool bot.
13:51 sfan5           I suppose you have read the documentation of the commands
13:52 cisoun          yup
13:52 sfan5           the !c command is pretty cool too
13:54 sfan5           !c ''.join(chr(ord(c[1]) ^ (int(math.tan(c[0]+3.7582)*10) % 0x13)) for c in zip(xrange(9999), 'oc.f`\x7flvg'))
13:54 MinetestBot     'hi cisoun'
14:02 lordawe         sfan5, no luck so far
14:02 cisoun          nice one
14:02 sfan5           lordawe: no luck with what
14:02 lordawe         i can connect on the same machine, but I can't connect from another PC in the same net
14:02 sfan5           lol
14:03 sfan5           when you only listen on localhost only you can access it
14:03 sfan5           put in your local network addr
14:03 sfan5           (where you put in 127.0.0.1 in the settings)
14:03 lordawe         i know, i am not such lame
14:04 lordawe         i am in range of 192.168.1.x
14:04 sfan5           what is your local ip?
14:04 lordawe         server runs on desktop PC with 192.168.1.2
14:05 sfan5           what have you put after 'bind_address = ' in your server config?
14:05 lordawe         i am on 192.168.1.254, firewall is set to pass through and nothing
14:05 lordawe         as I said, 047 works on 1st click for me
14:05 sfan5           <sfan5> what have you put after 'bind_address = ' in your server config?
14:06 lordawe         127.0.0.1
14:06 sfan5           put 192.168.1.2 there
14:07 sfan5           only your own pc can access the loopback (127.0.0.1)
14:07 sfan5           if you listen on loopback it won't be available on the network
14:09 lordawe         cool!
14:09 lordawe         it works now
14:09 sfan5           !next
14:09 MinetestBot     Another satisfied customer. Next!
14:09 lordawe         but it is confusing, because
14:10 lordawe         previous versions have another settings using localhost ip
14:10 lordawe         thanks
14:11 sfan5           !c range(4)
14:11 MinetestBot     [0, 1, 2, 3]
14:12 Jordach         wrong, wrong.
14:13 sfan5           what?
14:13 Jordach         count should start at 1
14:13 sfan5           lol no
14:13 sfan5           we aren't lua
14:13 sfan5           +using
14:13 Jordach         because it's asking until the number 4, rather than that bad idea
14:14 sfan5           it makes more sense to use  for i in range(len(array)): do_something(array[i])  than  for i in range(len(array)): do_something(array[i-1])
14:14 RiRa            looking at minetest. but i dont get Right control or pgup assigned to keymap_jump = KEY_CTRL without that you cant play it. lucky the move keys i copuld move back to the cursor keys.
14:15 RiRa            but whats the key code for Rctrl or betetr pgup ?
14:16 sfan5           RiRa: all key codes: http://irrlicht.sourceforge.net/docu/namespaceirr.html#a54da2a0e231901735e3da1b0edf72eb3
14:17 RiRa            thanks thats intressting. google came not with that
14:39 sfan5           Jordach: http://i.imgur.com/laKUTFK.png
14:39 Jordach         bumpmaps?
14:39 sfan5           nope
14:40 sfan5           this thing: http://pastie.org/private/xapvrskoseiom04gk7d8aa
14:43 Jordach         noice
14:43 Jordach         sfan5, make a 128px pack with it and release it
14:43 sfan5           k
14:43 sfan5           done
14:47 sfan5           Jordach: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/30267315/Minetest/pack.tar.bz2
14:48 EvergreenTree   o/
14:49 Jordach         o/
14:50 PenguinDad      o\
14:58 sfan5           Jordach: http://i.imgur.com/F5UJe8d.png slightly different method
14:58 Jordach         sfan5, looks better
14:58 sfan5           it subtracts the color diff instead of adding it
14:58 sfan5           well
14:59 sfan5           v[i] = int((v[i] / 256.0) * float(256-n))
14:59 sfan5           instead of
14:59 sfan5           v[i] = int((v[i] / 256.0) * float(256+n))
15:00 rambomedic      st-dev
15:57 sfan5           Jordach: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=8579
17:11 kaeza           blaaaaargh
17:11 kaeza           hi
17:17 reactor         HELO.
17:22 Jordach         kaeza, dafuq
17:22 Jordach         where've you been
17:24 VanessaE        KAEZA!!!!!!
17:24 VanessaE        WHERE THE FUCK HAVE YOU BEEN!
17:24 VanessaE        *pounce*
17:24 kaeza           in hell, and back :)
17:25 kaeza           (no internetz :((((( )
17:25 kaeza           how's everyone?
17:25 VanessaE        I figured that was the case - everyone is okay, how are you?
17:25 kaeza           is 1.0 out yet¿
17:25 kaeza           ?*
17:25 VanessaE        nope
17:25 kaeza           :(
17:26 kaeza           I'm fine, thanks. just a bit bored without net connection
17:26 kaeza           I expect it will take about a month more
17:27 VanessaE        why so logn?
17:27 VanessaE        long*
17:27 VanessaE        did they finally cut you off hardcore?
17:27 kaeza           something like that :)
17:28 VanessaE        all right, spill it
17:28 VanessaE        what happened?
17:28 kaeza           the other way round; decided to ditch those asses and get a better ISP
17:28 VanessaE        ahh
17:28 kaeza           :)
17:31 reactor         Hell I should switch ISP, too.
17:31 reactor         If you people ever go to Russia, never ever use Rostelecom. They're cheap assholes.
17:32 sfan5           If you people ever go to Germany, never ever use Deutsche Telekom. They have bad support.
17:35 reactor         ...state telephone companies are bad?
17:35 reactor         In every country?
17:36 reactor         I wonder what are British Telecom and AT&T.
17:36 Jordach         BT isn't that bad
17:36 sfan5           they were a state company
17:36 sfan5           they no longer are
17:36 sfan5           (IIRC)
17:50 VanessaE        "We don't have to care.  We're the phone company."
17:55 Jordach         FUCK
17:55 Jordach         WHY HAVEN'T I DONE THIS
17:55 Jordach         Cycles IS 10000000000% EASIER than Internals
17:56 kaeza           wat
17:58 VanessaE        kaeza:  he's taken to hardcore blender stuff
18:00 kaeza           guessed :P
18:17 Jordach         kaeza, http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-150214-181654.php <- exporting
18:17 Jordach         reliance on WINE isn't a good thing :<
18:17 reactor         Jordach: ?
18:17 Jordach         reactor, exporting a world directly
18:18 reactor         to MT?
18:18 kaeza           whoa
18:19 Jordach         nope
18:19 Jordach         for rendering in Cycles
18:19 kaeza           how'd you do that?
18:20 Jordach         magic :>
18:21 kaeza           <.<
18:21 Jordach         http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-150214-182121.php <- danger clse
18:21 Jordach         close*
18:22 Jordach         kaeza, http://jordach.deviantart.com for other shit :>
18:23 Jordach         um, http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-150214-182322.php
18:23 Jordach         same selection, different exporters
18:28 Jordach         pfft
18:28 Jordach         blender OOMs
18:40 Jordach         wtf
18:40 Jordach         Cycles DOES LOOK BETTER...
18:52 hoodedice       EvergreenTree!
18:53 hoodedice       Not here. -.-
18:53 hoodedice       https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=129948#p129948
18:53 hoodedice       Dude's been bumping old topics like this with useless crap, and I'm the one who gets scolded
18:54 hoodedice       HI MinetestBot
18:54 MinetestBot     Hello hoodedice.
18:54 hoodedice       MinetestBot, how was your date?
18:57 MinetestBot     Good, thank you.
18:57 * Jordach       isn't sure about loving cycles or hating it
18:58 hoodedice       I like cycles
18:58 hoodedice       Water cycle, bi-cycle
18:59 VanessaE        kaeza: *poke*
18:59 Jordach         hoodedice, i'm speaking of Blender Cycles engine
18:59 hoodedice       VanessaE,  The positive effects of minecraft
18:59 hoodedice       DAMN LOL
18:59 hoodedice       Wrong pasta
18:59 VanessaE        kaeza:  I've since switched to quassel.  Any chance of you rewriting mt_irc.py to work with it once it has some kind of scripting?
18:59 Jordach         with Internals, i can make a really good looking world: but Cycles allows realistic damn water
18:59 hoodedice       https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=129948#p129948
18:59 VanessaE        hoodedice: ehm..  I have no interest in minecraft.
19:00 hoodedice       srry, VanessaE, wrong paste. I was fighting the good fight and had to quote someone. But actual concern is in the link above
19:01 hoodedice       This guy's been necro bumping old stuff with usually shit posts like " cool" or stuff
19:01 VanessaE        saw it.
19:01 hoodedice       It wastes three hundred seconds of my life
19:02 VanessaE        however, player_textures still works fine.  I use it on my servers.  nothing wrong with bumping old topics (though shitposting is a problem)
19:02 hoodedice       Not to ignore the fact that someone always scolds me after that
19:03 hoodedice       Also, Canonical is crapping out ubuntu
19:03 VanessaE        I guess it depends on what you're bumping and why
19:03 VanessaE        how's that?  what do you mean?
19:03 kaeza           VanessaE: ow
19:03 VanessaE        (I still use 12.04 on the desktop so idk what they're doing lately)
19:03 hoodedice       I can't even reinstall XUbuntu because even the installer seems broken lol
19:04 kaeza           VanessaE: quassel = no scripting
19:04 hoodedice       Xubuntu 64 bit is a joke.
19:04 VanessaE        kaeza: I know - for now.  sooner or later it'll have something.
19:04 kaeza           that's one reason why I got back to HC
19:04 VanessaE        hoodedice: um, I run Xubuntu 12.04 64 bit.
19:04 * Jordach       runs 32Bit
19:04 hoodedice       12.04 must be good
19:04 VanessaE        12.04 is okay.
19:04 VanessaE        13.10 is shit.
19:04 hoodedice       I used 12.04 and the only broken thing was Simple Scan
19:04 VanessaE        (because it enforces NFS v4)
19:05 kaeza           I still use 12.04 (plain 'buntu)
19:05 hoodedice       Also, 13.10 did away with ia32 libs
19:05 kaeza           what's so bad about 13-10?
19:05 hoodedice       Which broke at least half of the 32 bit apps I was trying to run
19:05 kaeza           oh
19:05 VanessaE        kaeza: NFS v4 sucks big, green, slimy, hairy donkey dicks.
19:05 VanessaE        'nuff said?
19:05 VanessaE        :)
19:05 kaeza           heh
19:06 hoodedice       I'll have to clean reinstall this PoS
19:06 kaeza           well, I guess I'll stick to my system for a long time to come
19:06 hoodedice       DO NOT switch to Trusty
19:06 kaeza           and to hell with EOL
19:06 hoodedice       It cannot be trusted
19:06 VanessaE        if I reinstall my desktop, I might end up going with straight debian.
19:06 sfan5           lol
19:07 sfan5           VanessaE: don't debian, go crunchbang or xubuntu
19:07 hoodedice       Wonder how many new experiments canonical is gonna conduct on that one
19:07 hoodedice       sfan5, even Xubuntu is fucking broken
19:07 VanessaE        sfan5: I've been using xubuntu for years.
19:07 sfan5           hoodedice: tell me how it's broken!
19:07 VanessaE        it's beginning to use its luster.
19:07 hoodedice       And I've also been using it for years
19:07 hoodedice       LightDM
19:08 hoodedice       multiarch instead of ia-32 libs
19:08 hoodedice       Run any 32 bit apps and it will output some files as missing
19:08 hoodedice       And I can't even reinstall it. I'll have to purge every package from history
19:08 sfan5           so you want a perfect system that has every lib you need
19:09 sfan5           reinstall what?
19:09 hoodedice       reinstall xubuntu
19:09 hoodedice       32 bit libs is like
19:09 hoodedice       The basic-est thing EVER
19:10 hoodedice       Now they ask me to append :i386 to every package I need
19:10 hoodedice       Which craps out every other package I have
19:10 sfan5           oh yeah
19:10 hoodedice       Take for example, python
19:10 sfan5           my friend had this
19:10 hoodedice       I did an apt-get install python:i386 or something
19:10 sfan5           steam tried to install some i386 libs everytime it started, if he would enter yes it would break everything because it would remove xorg
19:11 hoodedice       I got python x32 but lost the fucking software center
19:11 sfan5           multiarch is not a idea, but many distros break when using multiarcch
19:11 sfan5           multiarch*
19:11 Jordach         http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-150214-191039.php
19:11 sfan5           ok wait
19:11 hoodedice       My Xorg got broken in the end too lol. But I don't steam on xubuntu
19:11 sfan5           s/.+/multiarch is not a bad idea, but many distros did it badly so that it breaks everything when you use it/
19:12 VanessaE        been there, dealt with that :)
19:12 VanessaE        like how debian did it at first :)
19:12 VanessaE        (and still does it I think)
19:13 hoodedice       Sorry, I derped XD
19:13 Jordach         n00b
19:16 VanessaE        you suck :)
19:16 VanessaE        Jordach: seen the latest map?
19:16 VanessaE        http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/worldmaps/Minetest_World.png
19:16 VanessaE        it's exploding
19:17 Jordach         pfft
19:17 VanessaE        it'll be as populated as Redcrab's....in about 5 years :P
19:17 kaeza           I hope my hovercraft store is still intact <.<
19:18 kaeza           wait... is that creative or survival?
19:18 VanessaE        unless you've figured out how to build hovercraft on 30005....  :P
19:18 VanessaE        that's the Almost Vanilla server, kaeza.
19:18 hoodedice       VanessaE, is that default mapgen?
19:18 kaeza           oh
19:18 VanessaE        hoodedice: yep
19:18 VanessaE        v6
19:18 hoodedice       OMG, didn't know it could be so beautiful
19:20 NekoGloop       it's so ugly ingame though
19:20 hoodedice       lol ya
19:20 VanessaE        :(
19:20 Jordach         +8^[rotate(90)]
19:20 kaeza            3
19:20 kaeza           333oops
19:20 kaeza           stupid keyboard
19:21 kaeza           Jordach: ?
19:21 hoodedice       infinity?
19:21 Jordach         add infinited to neko's message :>
19:22 hoodedice       I'm gonna kill the installation process
19:22 kaeza           :P
19:22 VanessaE        well can't do much about it now
19:22 VanessaE        not unless someone finds a way to make a new mapgen that can blend with an existing v6-generated world but with much more epic landscape
19:22 hoodedice       But then again, I can't find the process
19:22 VanessaE        (blend as in no map block cliffs)
19:23 hoodedice       brb. Force rebooting
19:24 Jordach         VanessaE, if else regenerate the fuckin lot
19:24 PilzAdam        Jordach, isnt it more like ^[rotateR:90 ?
19:24 sfan5           yes it is
19:24 Jordach         you really are a pedantic asswipe, PilzAdam :>
19:26 VanessaE        REGENERATE _ALL_ THE MAPBLOCKS!
19:26 VanessaE        *looks at well-built town*
19:26 VanessaE        regenerate _all_ the mapblocks? :-/
19:26 Jordach         -!-: NUCLEAR STRIKE INITIATED
19:26 sfan5           VanessaE: someone could write a mod that builds a bridge between two mapblocks of old mapgen <-> new mapgen
19:27 sfan5           wouldn't look that bad too
19:27 VanessaE        sfan5:  that sounds like a job for paramat :)
19:27 sfan5           Y U NO s/paramat/sfan5/ ? D:
19:27 VanessaE        a terrain smoother
19:27 VanessaE        well you could too
19:28 VanessaE        but paramat is the one who is always making those epic mapgen mods :)
19:28 VanessaE        I haven't seen much from you lately :P
19:28 kaeza           -you now do mapgen sfan5? :o
19:28 VanessaE        he does.
19:28 kaeza           +stuff
19:28 sfan5           yeah, kinda
19:28 Jordach         nore + sfan5 + paramat + peacock = JESUS FUCKING CHIRST OF A MAPGEN
19:28 VanessaE        he and nore wrote the mapgen that's used on my 30003 server.
19:28 sfan5           it is?
19:28 sfan5           nice
19:28 sfan5           well
19:28 sfan5           not nice but awesome
19:29 kaeza           ^^
19:29 sfan5           !server port:30003
19:29 MinetestBot     sfan5: Megaf After The End | megaf.no-ip.info:30003 | Clients: 10/14, 14 | Version: 0.4.9-Tue Feb 11 09:26:11 BRST 2014 | ping: 0.262
19:29 sfan5           not that one
19:29 VanessaE        sfan5:  yeah, you know, that "MG-Nore" test server?  that runs the thing you guys were working on, though I dunno if what I have is up-to-date or is even the thing you were working on or not.
19:29 sfan5           !server vanessae port:30003
19:29 MinetestBot     sfan5: VanessaE's/Nore's Lua mapgen test Server | digitalaudioconcepts.com:30003 | Clients: 0/50, 7 | Version: 0.4.9-dev | ping: 0.100
19:29 sfan5           \o/
19:30 VanessaE        http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/worldmaps/MG_World.png
19:30 VanessaE        from last night's run of the mapper
19:30 VanessaE        look like yours?
19:30 sfan5           yes
19:30 sfan5           savanna's are pretty rare
19:31 * VanessaE      takes sfan5's apostrophe and buries it
19:31 sfan5           oh, oops
19:31 VanessaE        I should reset this map.
19:31 sfan5           do if you want
19:31 sfan5           also git pull to see if mg's up to date
19:31 VanessaE        it's not meant for building anyway, this is strictly for testing the mapgen
19:32 VanessaE        looks to be up-to-date yeah
19:33 VanessaE        done.
19:33 * sfan5         joins
19:33 VanessaE        wait for it to reboot.
19:34 sfan5           k
19:34 VanessaE        there it goes.
19:34 sfan5           VanessaE: have you taken a look at the texture pack I just released?
19:34 hoodedice       sfan5, wasn't RBA's build doing the same?
19:34 kaeza           teh duck
19:34 hoodedice       Anyway, xubuntu's finally made me happy again.
19:34 kaeza           homedecor_modpack ·_·
19:35 VanessaE        kaeza: yep, get with the program :)
19:35 VanessaE        I separated signs_lib
19:35 kaeza           sooo my whole work is lost D:
19:35 stormchaser3000 hi
19:35 sfan5           hoodedice: I dunno if it's doing the _same_ but it is doing something similar
19:35 VanessaE        kaeza: well I didn't know where you were or wtf was going on
19:35 kaeza           J/K, I did nothing
19:35 VanessaE        sfan5:  which one?
19:35 VanessaE        kaeza: oh :P
19:36 sfan5           https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=8579
19:36 kaeza           been lazy all time playing *ahem* Borderlands
19:36 VanessaE        kaeza: well you can at least force pull and/or rebase or whatever and do the lcoked signs :)
19:36 kaeza           not on my comp now :(
19:37 kaeza           (PS: Windows sucks)
19:37 hoodedice       Which Windows?
19:37 kaeza            7
19:37 hoodedice       Use 8.1
19:37 hoodedice       *flies away*
19:37 kaeza           actually, all of them (excemp 98SE=
19:37 hoodedice       98SE lol
19:37 kaeza           except 98SE*
19:37 hoodedice       I actually used it *sob*
19:38 hoodedice       Played Roller coaster tycoon on it,
19:38 hoodedice       And the original Prince of Persia
19:38 stormchaser3000 i want windows 7 ust for it's wide range of campatibility
19:38 sfan5           VanessaE: <sfan5> https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=8579
19:38 hoodedice       8.1 is actually better for compatibility
19:39 stormchaser3000 yeah but windows 8.1 is glitchy comaired to 8
19:39 VanessaE        sfan5: oh yes, I saw that post.
19:39 stormchaser3000 7*
19:39 kaeza           Linux is better!
19:39 stormchaser3000 lol 8 is even glitchier
19:39 VanessaE        sfan5: but didn't you see that RBA's working on an in-shaders version of this?
19:39 sfan5           yes I did
19:39 stormchaser3000 ans yyes linux is by far the eaiest and best os
19:39 hoodedice       *easiest and best...
19:39 kaeza           thinking about switching to *BSD. but maybe not worth the stuff
19:39 hoodedice       DUDE. I wish you were in my place now. I REALLY WISH
19:39 sfan5           > linux is [...] the eaiest [...] os
19:39 sfan5           wtf
19:39 sfan5           no
19:39 sfan5           linux is not easy
19:40 * hoodedice     agrees with sfan5
19:40 * kaeza         too
19:40 kaeza           still...
19:40 stormchaser3000 well linux is easy if you are fammiliar with the commands
19:40 hoodedice       ...awesome
19:40 hoodedice       I really wish we had animated sigs on the forums
19:40 sfan5           VanessaE: is something wrong with your remote_media server? I don't see any traffic with wireshark
19:40 hoodedice       http://www.punk-o-matic.net/smf/index.php?topic=4910.msg196090#msg196090
19:41 hoodedice       ^ Dat sig there
19:41 kaeza           animated sigs?
19:41 hoodedice       .gif
19:41 hoodedice       signature
19:41 sfan5           stormchaser3000: linux does not have any commands, it's only the kernel
19:41 sfan5           hoodedice: pls no gif, apng or webp pls
19:41 stormchaser3000 tat is what i mean the kernel
19:41 kaeza           yeah, and also allow 1080p images in signatures
19:41 hoodedice       I know, I won't use lol
19:42 Reece           Hello everyone
19:42 hoodedice       hey
19:42 kaeza           hi
19:42 stormchaser3000 hello reece
19:42 hoodedice       How can we help you today?
19:42 Reece           Anbody got some good tutorials for mod developing ?
19:42 Reece           Hey Storm!
19:42 Reece           Nice to meet you
19:42 hoodedice       Sir, we have a nice piece of documentation
19:42 kaeza           Reece: best one: check out other people's stuff
19:42 hoodedice       That we call lua_api.txt
19:42 stormchaser3000 um ok
19:43 stormchaser3000 lol nice to meet you to
19:43 Reece           Okay cheers kaeza
19:43 hoodedice       Here you go sir
19:43 hoodedice       https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt
19:43 hoodedice       Is that all?
19:43 sfan5           kaeza: pfff, how about 2160p (4K)?
19:43 Reece           pretty new to modding :)
19:43 kaeza           you learn more from "real world" code than from "hello world" style programs
19:43 stormchaser3000 i made a pretty useless mod
19:44 hoodedice       !next
19:44 MinetestBot     Another satisfied customer. Next!
19:45 * VanessaE      wanders off to add HDX support for the MG mod.
19:45 kaeza           VanessaE: while you're at it, add computers!
19:46 VanessaE        pfft
19:46 Jordach         THAT'S MY LINE
19:46 VanessaE        that's 10x as much work :P
19:46 Jordach         GTFO.
19:46 kaeza           get some nice C64 image :)
19:46 * hoodedice     waits for installation to get over. Then will add git, intel GFX drivers, compile minetest and host a private server
19:46 * hoodedice     will do all while thinking about how he should just boot up Windows and finish off his assignment(s) first
19:46 hoodedice       *...all of this...
19:47 VanessaE        kaeza:
19:47 kaeza           why Windows?
19:47 VanessaE        oops.
19:47 kaeza           VanessaE:
19:47 hoodedice       oops
19:47 hoodedice       Ninja'd!
19:47 kaeza           :)
19:47 hoodedice       Because stability
19:47 hoodedice       And internet explorer
19:47 Jordach         PFFT.
19:47 kaeza           "stability" <-<
19:47 VanessaE        kaeza: I'd need to have an actual C64 and C128 and the others, in very good condition to actually do it.  my C128 is in good shape but is yellowed (needs retr0brite).  I don't have a breadbox C64 or the others.
19:47 Jordach         PFFFFFFFFTTTTTT.....
19:47 hoodedice       *flies away*
19:47 kaeza           <.<*
19:48 Jordach         VanessaE, EMU :d
19:48 VanessaE        Jordach: um..
19:48 VanessaE        I don't think VICE will suffice for this.....
19:49 hoodedice       brb. Installation komplete
19:50 Jordach         VanessaE, so you can always ask me to distort the image as if it was a CRT screen using Blender
19:50 VanessaE        Jordach: um, this is about the computers themselves, not their displays.
19:50 Jordach         OH
19:51 Jordach         then use some sort of plastic :P
19:52 Reece           is this minecraft ?
19:52 Jordach         nope
19:52 Reece           Wow, Woops
19:52 Reece           Wrong IRC!
19:52 VanessaE        this is Minetest, not Minecraft
19:52 Reece           xD
19:52 VanessaE        an Open source program
19:52 Reece           My bad!
19:52 VanessaE        similar in concept.
19:53 stormchaser3000 lol
19:53 Reece           lolz
19:53 Reece           laterz
19:53 Reece           guys
19:53 Reece           have a good life xD, Byee!
19:53 hoodedice       FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT
19:53 Jordach         </rage>
19:53 hoodedice       GO TO HELL YOU FUCKING DEVIL SPAWN
19:54 hoodedice       It destroyed my windows partition
19:54 kaeza           so language
19:54 kaeza           much rage
19:54 kaeza           wow
19:54 hoodedice       All my code for my computer class is lost forever
19:54 hoodedice       screwy shit
19:55 * Jordach       is often happy to help
19:55 hoodedice       Nah, I'll just bug the guys at #ubuntu
19:56 kaeza           have you RTFM?
19:56 Jordach         so you're going to the guys who indirectly fucked your ship up?
19:56 Jordach         dat typo
19:57 sfan5           hoodedice: define destroyed
19:57 sfan5           try testdisk
19:57 hoodedice       Installed xubuntu on a partition that over wrote everything
19:57 sfan5           uhhh
19:57 sfan5           bad
19:58 hoodedice       I didn't tell it to
19:58 hoodedice       It just assumed stuff
19:58 Jordach         hoodedice, i always manually make my partitions
19:58 stormchaser3000 hoodedice
19:58 stormchaser3000 tha is why you make a backup copy of your system
19:59 * sfan5         also always uses manual partioning
19:59 hoodedice       sfan5, I told it to remove existing unknown Linux installation
20:02 Jordach         hoodedice, you should always use GParted and make a clean partition (eg, nuke it or delete it) and use it like that
20:02 hoodedice       I understand
20:02 hoodedice       I was lazy. My bad.
20:03 hoodedice       But I have to fgure out a way to get WIndows 8 back, and then work from there
20:03 hoodedice       That is VERY important for me atm
20:05 hoodedice       THERE'S LIGHT AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL!
20:06 hoodedice       see a 511 MB EFI.
20:06 sfan5           Jordach: what is this thing? http://i.imgur.com/T8toXZi.gif (aka has science gone too far?)
20:06 sfan5           hoodedice: the efi partition won't help you
20:06 sfan5           you need to get windows somehow and install it again
20:07 hoodedice       No, that's photoshop gone too far
20:10 rambomedic      !seen me
20:10 MinetestBot     rambomedic: Sorry, I haven't seen me around.
20:10 * rambomedic    hasn't seen me
20:15 VanessaE        sfan5: I'm gonna restore the map from this morning's backup.  there was no real need to reset it.  it doesn't look any different from before.  I was kinda hoping for those epic mountains and so forth we saw before.
20:15 kaeza           gtg... for now. bbl maybe
20:16 ShadowNinja     puhfa: Yes, it has.  It was fixed by adding a muted to logging.
20:38 sfan5           VanessaE: change the 100 @ https://github.com/Novatux/mg/blob/master/init.lua#L53 to something greater
20:39 VanessaE        too late :)
20:39 VanessaE        I'm gonna keep the server at its current state for now
20:40 VanessaE        if you change anything too drastically, maybe you can do the previously-discussed land contouring mod also :)
20:40 VanessaE        I decided I shouldn't reset the map
20:47 hoodedice       So. I think I'll just finish off my assignment, which I was lucky enough to use google drive for
20:47 hoodedice       And I now have to dish out cash for a recovery disk. FACK.
20:47 nore            VanessaE, that mod would be a good idea... I've thought about it a bit, but not done anything yet
20:48 sfan5           hoodedice: you mean a backup hdd?
20:48 hoodedice       No, a Windows 8 dvd
20:48 hoodedice       From Toshiba
20:48 Jordach         $60 isn't much to store essential files on
20:49 Jordach         hoodedice, just google for the W8.1 ISO and use yer lappy key
20:49 hoodedice       8.1 does not have keys anymore
20:49 Jordach         well, 8 anyways
20:49 hoodedice       Key is stored in BIOS itself
20:49 hoodedice       And I don't want to mess anything anymore
20:50 hoodedice       As long as it costs $10 without shipping, I'll gladly pay for it
20:50 puhfa           ShadowNinja: okay, thats good news. thank you
21:10 sfan5           glibc caused nginx to fail to compile, lol
21:21 * Jordach       experiments with Cycles some more
21:21 Jordach         Note to self: get an nVidia card for CUDE
21:21 Jordach         CUDA*
21:22 sfan5           note to Jordach: cuda is a mess to get working unde linux
21:22 sfan5           s/unde/with/
21:22 Jordach         sfan5, there's also a windows partition on my new box coming soon
21:24 Jordach         just for some video editing purely
21:24 Jordach         (and Steam()
21:32 Jordach         john_minetest, ever played with Cycles render?
21:39 Jordach         john_minetest, i cranked up the light samples and see what it does with a brand new render (same world. new shit)
21:40 Jordach         i can't wait until i get my new tower for rendering
21:41 Jordach         john_minetest, http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-150214-214140.php
21:42 Jordach         there's a goddamn difference :D
21:45 * Jordach       is working on back to the old skool
21:55 VanessaE        no, oldskool.
21:55 VanessaE        (always spelled with a 'k')
22:19 PenguinDad      https://github.com/ghost best user at github :D
22:39 Jordach         SCIENCE
23:00 STHGOM          MintestBot!
23:02 STHGOM          !ping
23:02 STHGOM          !seen o
23:02 MinetestBot     STHGOM: o was last seen at 2014-02-07 20:54:06 UTC on #minetest
23:02 STHGOM          MinetestBot!
23:02 MinetestBot     STHGOM!
23:15 NekoGloop       STHGOM!
23:19 mrfrosty        Hello
23:36 stormchaser3000 hi
23:36 STHGOM          hullo
23:36 stormchaser3000 can anyone help me with why this won't work i can't figure it out: https://github.com/stormchaser3000/random
23:37 mrfrosty        Theres alot of names on here
23:38 stormchaser3000 yeah there are lol
23:39 mrfrosty        lol
23:39 stormchaser3000 http://pastebin.com/jDtAH3Xc this is the error i get
23:46 hoodedice       Peacock
23:46 hoodedice       Not here...
23:47 * hoodedice     flies away
23:51 paramat         hmmmm, thanks for this http://pastebin.com/qZku8igS very useful
23:51 STHGOM          !seen Peacock
23:51 MinetestBot     STHGOM: peacock was last seen at 2014-02-12 06:15:14 UTC on #minetest
23:53 paramat         woo long time no seen
23:59 stormchaser3000 well paramat can you find the typo i made?