Time Nick Message
01:10 LemonLake goodnight quietest irc chan known to man
01:30 Sokomine anyone feeling like testing something? it'll be short i think
01:32 Eater4 What is it?
01:33 Eater4 Sokomine: what is it?
01:35 Sokomine a small experiment with snow. it annoyed me that snow looks bad on nodeboxes. i don't have a solution for all situations...just for a selected few (stairs and such)
01:35 Sokomine see here: https://github.com/Sokomine/moresnow feedback welcome
03:26 us`0gb What do you think about having a server that is by invite only? Basically, it would be a server that doesn't advertise to the centralized server list, so to find it, you would need to receive an invite from someone who knows about it (anyone who knows can invite).
03:26 us`0gb (I'm trying to find a good antivandal mechanism.)
03:52 MinetestBot GIT: ShadowNinja commited to minetest/minetest: Remove vector assertions 33ca115 2014-07-19T23:50:50-04:00 http://git.io/Hay4lQ
07:38 fling Which mod to use for irc?
08:50 Calinou screenshot_path = /home/calinou/Images/Minetest
08:50 Calinou I just realized this makes sense
09:00 Calinou fog becomes atrociously intense on Freeminer :x but view range is the same
09:09 Krock moin
09:47 TenPlus1 Hi folks... does anyone know of a way to re-colour TEXTAREA formspec background, opacity and text colours ???
09:48 sfan5 I don't think there is a way to do tha
09:48 sfan5 t
09:48 TenPlus1 shame... any way of sneaking it into the next release :)
09:49 sfan5 open an issue at github
09:49 TenPlus1 *shudder*... will try... every time I use github I end up forking a mod or summit :P
09:50 TenPlus1 HI LemonLake, like the latest updates btw :0
09:50 LemonLake TenPlus1: Hello
09:51 LemonLake Latest updates?
09:51 TenPlus1 factory mod updates
09:51 LemonLake ah, I see
09:52 LemonLake that's good
09:52 TenPlus1 sorry, latest midori kinda stalled for a sec there
09:52 TenPlus1 the factory machines work quite well... am surprised you havent added the Dispenser and Hopper from Minecraft into there :P
09:53 LemonLake the takers kinda fling them out if they have no input, but not very far
09:53 LemonLake that might be something interesting to add, however there is the issue of velocity/acceleration not going down by themselves, a really annoying mt bug
09:54 TenPlus1 ahh, am sure you'll find a way around it...
09:54 LemonLake as for hopper, that's technically been added too
09:54 TenPlus1 the Pneumatic Taker ?
09:54 LemonLake yes
09:54 LemonLake and the Mover
09:54 TenPlus1 good point...
09:55 TenPlus1 was gonna place one at spawn area so when ppl die, all their stuff gets sucked up :P
09:55 LemonLake while it only goes sideways, it can be worked around just like everyone had to work around hoppers not being able to go up in MC
09:55 LemonLake hehe
09:55 LemonLake I was thinking of making a vacuum, actually
09:55 TenPlus1 MT is getting quite rich in mods now... vacuum as in hoover ?
09:55 Krock people start wondering how to get the air sword
09:56 TenPlus1 lol
09:56 * TenPlus1 has one
09:56 * Krock too
09:56 LemonLake air sword?
09:56 TenPlus1 ehehehe
09:56 LemonLake you mean wieldhand?
09:56 TenPlus1 :)
09:56 Krock LemonLake, your brother asks me how to get the air to craft it
09:56 Krock :3
09:56 LemonLake Krock, brb, killing him
09:56 Krock ...
09:57 LemonLake there we go
09:57 TenPlus1 weirdly enough in making the Crystal Shovel for Ethereal the first release somehow nabbed an air-block and it called me a hacker :P aha
09:59 Krock I <3 aisword
09:59 Krock +r
10:00 LemonLake jesus
10:00 LemonLake i nearly actually killed him
10:00 TenPlus1 lolz
10:00 * Krock also loves deals like 10 copper for 1 cobble brlock
10:00 Krock *copper block
10:00 LemonLake he's been playing the game for a few months more than me, im surprised he didn't know this
10:01 LemonLake TenPlus1: vacuum that sucks up nearby items
10:01 TenPlus1 ahh yes, that would be ideal... I'd definitely use that on server
10:02 TenPlus1 Krock: Just added the old money mod and ppl are enjoying making their own Shops and Trade Chests with weird deals like that for noobs
10:02 Krock :3
10:02 * Krock has his own money mod
10:03 TenPlus1 which one /
10:03 LemonLake bitchange
10:04 TenPlus1 sweet, will check it out...
10:04 LemonLake it's actually really good
10:04 TenPlus1 money mod was made in 2012... still works but could do with a remake
10:05 TenPlus1 wow, looks very interesting...
10:06 VanessaE good morning.
10:06 Calinou “bitchange†meh
10:06 TenPlus1 lol @ Calinou
10:06 TenPlus1 hi VanessaE
10:06 Calinou hi TenPlus1
10:06 Calinou TenPlus1, protector formspec is buggy, you can't escape it
10:06 VanessaE hi all
10:06 LemonLake VanessaE: ãŠã¯ã‚ˆã† ã”ã–ã„ã¾ã™ï¼
10:06 Calinou client seems to enter it hundreds of times
10:07 Calinou client should deny all further formspecs for 1 second after exiting one…
10:07 TenPlus1 That's why their is a BACK button added to the Protector Redo mod
10:07 TenPlus1 https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=9376&hilit=protector+redo
10:07 Calinou oh
10:07 Calinou I'll add it back
10:08 TenPlus1 protector mod is good but the formspec did annoy many ppl... that's the only reason I redid the mod
10:08 TenPlus1 ooh, speaking of which... VanessaE did you see the post re: table tops on homedecor ?
10:08 Calinou Carbone has protector mod too
10:08 Calinou heavily improved :d
10:08 Calinou good legit crafting recipe
10:08 Calinou 25 × 25 × 25 area
10:09 TenPlus1 ah sweet, gotta check it out :)
10:09 TenPlus1 the redo mod only has new formspec and adheres to is_protected check in minetest...
10:10 * Calinou needs to redo ore block textures :'(
10:10 Calinou probably just pick the new oens from minetest_game
10:11 TenPlus1 I like the new textures apart from cobble, it's kinda flat lookin'
10:11 LemonLake TIL 'ohayou' is actually spelt using a kanji: ãŠæ—©ã†
10:12 TenPlus1 Calinou: did you see the protector signs in the redo ? can be placed on any block to kinda hide it
10:16 Calinou yes, but I removed them for simplicity's sake
10:16 Calinou protection shouldn't be obscure in general, but you can bury the blocks anyway
10:16 Calinou TenPlus1, new tools look like crap
10:16 Calinou it looks like Carbone will keep old tool textures for the foreseeable texture
10:16 Calinou (I improved the swords too)
10:16 Calinou swords are actually thin now
10:16 Calinou they aren't a big plane of wood/stone/whatever striking enemies
10:18 TenPlus1 am getting "could not process soil information of node air" when using carbone and ethereal together... any ideas why ?
10:19 Calinou Inocudom reported that too
10:19 Calinou I use the latest farming mod
10:19 Calinou I could remove that error message for now
10:19 TenPlus1 I've tested with the latest farming also but haven't seen those errors...
10:20 TenPlus1 have you changed the farming/flower mod any for Carbone ?
10:20 Calinou yes, growing ABMs use consistent times
10:20 Calinou 30 seconds for all, usually
10:21 TenPlus1 hrm, that wouldnt cause an error... lemmie re-test a few things... I tend to run farming redo for growing
10:24 Calinou committed
10:27 TenPlus1 errors happen every 40 seconds.. .might be the flowers spreading
10:28 TenPlus1 nope
10:28 LemonLake http://pastie.org/9406936
10:28 LemonLake Have I done this right?
10:29 Calinou 12:28:58 [:~/.minetest/games/carbone/mods] master ± grep -r "soil info"
10:29 Calinou farming/nodes.lua:-- minetest.log("error", "Could not process soil information of node " .. nn .. ".")
10:29 Calinou nothing else about soil information
10:29 Calinou TenPlus1, which mods do you have?
10:29 Calinou any that overrides a mod in Carbone?
10:30 TenPlus1 all I'm running is a Carbone world using v7 mapgen and Ethereal mod... that's it
10:30 LemonLake Calinou: you know about protection mods etc, right? I can't really test one so I can only guess my code works
10:33 Calinou :o surface acid, from an overhang, flowing on sea
10:33 LemonLake wow
10:34 TenPlus1 Calinou: checked Ethereal dirt types and all have soil=1 flag which changes to soil=2 or 3 when farming in use... I dunno why your farming mod is giving an error
10:34 Calinou https://cdn.mediacru.sh/wtojT06OAQBo.jpg
10:35 TenPlus1 am I missing a group name ?
10:35 TenPlus1 wow, nice one... aceeeeeed
10:36 LemonLake Is there a way to load chunks via a mod?
10:37 Calinou 46-block high plateau
10:37 Calinou force-loading, LemonLake, but it's limited
10:37 PenguinDad LemonLake: force-loading
10:37 Calinou lots of cut-out jungle trees
10:37 LemonLake limited?
10:37 Calinou bye
10:37 Calinou may be slow
10:37 Calinou only a few blocks by default
10:38 LemonLake also, is the pos in forceload_block a node pos or block pos?
10:41 LemonLake anyone?
10:42 TenPlus1 couldn't say LemonLake
10:42 LemonLake well it seems to have no effect
10:44 TenPlus1 LemonLake do you have a protection mod running alongside your testing ?
10:44 LemonLake not running
10:45 LemonLake my miners work swell for ~80 nodes
10:45 LemonLake then they stop
10:45 TenPlus1 they prolly go outside the active area around the player
10:45 LemonLake node.name doesn't even equals ignore
10:45 LemonLake so they're loaded just fine
10:45 TenPlus1 need to up that in the minetest.conf file
10:46 LemonLake hm
10:46 LemonLake the abm never runs
10:46 LemonLake well, the abm doesn't run, or my for loop reaches the limit very prematurely
10:47 VanessaE LemonLake: that's active block range
10:47 TenPlus1 if you are testing for is_protected you need to make sure a protection mod is loaded otherwise the command will do nothing but return false
10:47 LemonLake but I'm standing right on top of the node?
10:47 LemonLake no, the abm dies after the miner has dug 80 nodes
10:47 LemonLake oh i see
10:48 LemonLake they just got turned off for a strange reason
10:48 TenPlus1 in the default game, is_protected does nothing, it's just there for checking... you need to load a suitable mod to make is_protected work
10:48 LemonLake TenPlus1: is_protected works fine
10:48 LemonLake the issue was that the ignore check was strangely skipped
10:49 TenPlus1 ah
10:49 LemonLake and then it reached the diggable check, thus turning the miner off because ignore is not diggable
10:50 LemonLake okay, forceloading works
10:50 TenPlus1 kl
10:50 LemonLake i need to return after loading the block, because otherwise it's not diggable
10:51 LemonLake it works! :D
10:51 TenPlus1 :) what did u change
10:51 LemonLake I wasn't forceloading, so when it reached 'ignore' the miner turned off (it has an off state)
10:52 VanessaE oh no, LemonLake made something work. :)
10:52 LemonLake But after forceloading, 'ignore' still existed
10:52 LemonLake so again, it switched off
10:52 LemonLake solution was to simply return after forceloading, and then give the miner a jumpstart using a mesecons lever
10:54 TenPlus1 minetest will soon have a huge industrial sector running on servers :p
10:59 sfan5 !title
10:59 sfan5 :/
10:59 sfan5 seems like about everything is broken
11:00 LemonLake can it still calculate 9**9**9?
11:04 Krock MinetestBot!
11:04 MinetestBot Krock!
11:04 Krock but it's FAST
11:04 PenguinDad !c "meow"
11:06 LemonLake sfan5: why not multithread it?
11:06 sfan5 it is
11:06 LemonLake i see
11:06 sfan5 <3 MinetestBot
11:06 MinetestBot <3 sfan5
11:06 sfan5 !c 1
11:07 MinetestBot 1
11:07 sfan5 LemonLake: try now
11:07 LemonLake try what?
11:07 sfan5 <LemonLake> can it still calculate 9**9**9?
11:07 LemonLake !c 9**9**9
11:07 MinetestBot LemonLake: Kindly go fuck yourself!
11:07 LemonLake MinetestBot: no u
11:07 PenguinDad :D
11:07 LemonLake is it timed or something? there was a delay?
11:07 VanessaE HAH
11:07 sfan5 LemonLake: 2 seconds
11:07 LemonLake icey
11:07 sfan5 MinetestBot now ignores you too
11:08 LemonLake bitch
11:08 VanessaE nice touch, sfan5 :D
11:08 sfan5 :D
11:08 LemonLake !c "unignore" + "LemonLake"
11:08 LemonLake cunt
11:08 sfan5 !unignore *!*@host109-150-245-159.range109-150.btcentralplus.com
11:08 MinetestBot sfan5: '*!*@host109-150-245-159.range109-150.btcentralplus.com' removed from ignore list.
11:09 PenguinDad !c "meow"
11:09 MinetestBot 'meow'
11:09 PenguinDad <3 MinetestBot
11:09 MinetestBot <3 PenguinDad
11:09 LemonLake my ip has changed ø.ø
11:09 LemonLake it's not usually in that range
11:10 Krock Verstrichene Zeit 00:22:55.06
11:13 TenPlus1 cya folks
11:41 crazyR hi all, is it possible that a slow harddrive IO speed could cause corruption within a leveldb map?
11:42 LemonLake i know that a magnet can
11:43 asie crazyR: doubtful
11:44 crazyR well think im out of ideas as to the cause lol, but i think im pretty much stuffed, the map seems irreparable. tryed running a leveldb repait on it too with no luck lol
11:45 crazyR *repair
11:46 asie it is always repairable
11:46 asie with a danger of needing a hex editor and someone who knows the LevelDB format
11:47 crazyR thats kinda why its irreparable, i dont know anyone lol :)
11:48 crazyR and i doubt anyone will go through the entire db fixing it, its fairly big
11:50 FreeFull crazyR: You might have a failing HDD
11:50 PenguinDad hmmm, corrupted RAM could also cause this
11:51 FreeFull Failing HDD would explain slow read/write speeds
11:51 crazyR possible but not likely the the hard drive is configured as raid 10, all hardware is monitored :/
11:52 FreeFull crazyR: Why is read/write so slow?
11:53 crazyR thats the bit that ive been wondering my self, i sent a report to the datacenter this morning. should hear something back within the next couple of hours
11:54 crazyR failing hd is actually the first thing i though of, but witht he configuration i wouldnt have though it possible
12:39 LemonLake vacuums work
12:39 LemonLake no bugs, either
12:42 PenguinDad lol I just noticed that the builds forum has the id 42
13:03 Sokomine pipeworks also has that sand pipe which sucks items in
13:04 LemonLake mhm
13:04 LemonLake doesn't affect me though
13:04 Krock also mese sand tubes
13:05 LemonLake the geothermal furnace is going to be a tricky one to make
13:05 PenguinDad Krock, Sokomine: they are not called this way anymore
13:05 Krock hmm=
13:05 LemonLake it'll require a lava tank on one side, a water tank on the other
13:05 * Krock won't update pipeworks then
13:05 LemonLake a bucket of each will fill a small meter per liquid
13:05 PenguinDad Thanks to Zefram :(
13:05 LemonLake water will deplete faster, though
13:06 LemonLake when a meter is empty, it will take another buckets worth from the tank
13:06 LemonLake there's also temperature. if the temperature is too hot, it explodes. temperature rises unless water is present, in which case it very slowly goes down
13:06 PenguinDad Krock: https://github.com/VanessaE/pipeworks/commit/87d87c91fa83a8bdb09e718f0641a33f475f6826
13:06 LemonLake "itemwise filter"
13:07 LemonLake what the fuck
13:08 PenguinDad LemonLake: also "Adjustable Vacuuming Pneumatic Tube Segment"
13:08 LemonLake u wot
13:10 VanessaE LemonLake: itemwise vs. stackwise
14:25 MinetestBot GIT: maciej.kasatkin@o2.pl commited to minetest/minetest: Bugfix in makeCuboid - apply rotations to all faces when 1 tile is given. 7007480 2014-07-20T16:22:48+02:00 http://git.io/_Ens6g
15:24 sfan5 o/ Fusl
15:30 PilzAdam PenguinDad, https://github.com/PenguinDad/freeze/commit/180b0a60bc4ac3a4c7801abd7736c39e51ebf8cb hm?
15:31 PenguinDad PilzAdam: just ignore that
15:41 LemonLake ugh
15:42 LemonLake well i guess i have vids to edit
15:42 LemonLake off to windows i suppose
15:42 * sfan5 throws openshot at LemonLake
15:55 sfan5 <3 MinetestBot
15:55 MinetestBot <3 sfan5
15:55 PenguinDad lol
15:56 sfan5 PenguinDad: had to fix feedparser
15:56 PenguinDad ahh
16:02 Calinou https://github.com/mabrowning/minecrift → lol
16:05 Krock hmm?
16:08 Calinou a mod for Oculus Rift support for Minecraft
16:30 crazyR is there anyway for a CLI to be builtinto minetest. so that say we could send command via command line whilst the server is running?
16:31 PenguinDad crazyR: Calinou suggested something like that xesterday
16:31 PenguinDad *yesterday
16:31 * Krock wonders if using all filters speeds up the client
16:32 PenguinDad which filters?
16:33 Krock * in box(mainmenu.settings)
16:34 PenguinDad Krock: that didn't answer my question
16:35 Krock anisotroper filter, Bi- and Tri-linear filter
16:35 Krock ^ PenguinDad
16:35 Krock actually, I can notice some speedup
16:37 PenguinDad 16px textures look like shit with Bi- or Trilinear filtering enabled
16:38 Calinou Krock, aniso is slower, mip-map only is possibly faster, bilinear is possibly faster, trilinear is slower.
16:39 Calinou PenguinDad, yes, use at least 128 px
16:39 Calinou even 64 px is quite blurry
16:39 Krock k ty
16:39 * Krock uses 16px
16:51 Sokomine problem: i have a node that falls (like gravel, sand etc.). except that i have more than one version of that node. when it starts dropping, i want it to turn into what it would return if digged (its drop entry) and let that fall down
16:52 Sokomine ideas how that could be done?
16:55 sfan5 Sokomine: copy the code that does the builtin sand falling
16:56 sfan5 and change it
16:58 Sokomine hm. might work
16:58 zsoltisaw hello?
16:59 zsoltisaw /msg Amaz_ Hi
16:59 zsoltisaw lol
16:59 PenguinDad zsolt is awwwww
17:00 zsoltisaw xD
17:00 zsoltisaw I guess this client is dumb
17:00 PenguinDad /really
17:01 zsoltisaw yeah
17:02 zsoltisaw IRChon seems to not like freenode... 
17:02 Calinou doesn't reply to CTCP VERSION
17:03 zsoltisaw that's really stupid then
17:03 zsoltisaw I will switch to IRC999
17:03 zsoltisaw brb
17:04 Calinou crashy as hell
17:07 zsoltisawesome_ Test!
17:07 zsoltisawesome_ I have returned
17:07 PenguinDad zsoltisawesome used resurrection!
17:09 zsoltisawesome_ Lol
17:10 zsoltisawesome_ Hi
17:10 Krock hi
17:11 * PenguinDad hugs whiskers75
17:11 * whiskers75_hugs PenguinDad
17:11 zsoltisawesome_ Lel
17:12 * Krock_slaps zsoltisawesome_
17:12 zsoltisawesome_ IRC999 crashes when changing Nick lol
17:12 zsoltisawesome_ ACTION zsoltisawesome_?
17:14 zsoltisawesome_ Hmm
17:14 * PenguinDad_meows at Krock
17:14 * Krock_meows_at PenguinDad
17:15 Jordach tl;dr I leave for a fucking weekend and VanessaE's servers fall apart
17:15 VanessaE hah
17:15 PenguinDad lol
17:15 * Krock_meows_at Jordach
17:15 Jordach Krock_meows_at, tl;dr it was a TCG tournament with other like-minded nerds
17:15 Krock_meows_at ah
17:16 sfan5 !server meow
17:16 MinetestBot TypeError: the JSON object must be str, not 'tuple' (file "/usr/lib/python3.4/json/__init__.py", line 312, in loads)
17:16 sfan5 >.>
17:17 PenguinDad !server str
17:17 MinetestBot TypeError: the JSON object must be str, not 'tuple' (file "/usr/lib/python3.4/json/__init__.py", line 312, in loads)
17:17 PenguinDad didn't work :(
17:17 zsoltisawesome_ !c 99**9
17:17 MinetestBot 913517247483640899
17:21 sfan5 !server meow
17:21 MinetestBot sfan5: Meowtest 0.4.10 "SEGFAULTY" | minetest.org:30018 | Clients: 17/25, 8/23 | Version: 0.4.10-rc1 / meowtest_game | Ping: 22ms
17:21 sfan5 <3 MinetestBot
17:21 MinetestBot <3 sfan5
17:25 PenguinDad Aperture Science an abandoned Apple shop from hell
17:35 Krock !server ntdll
17:35 MinetestBot Krock: No results
17:35 sfan5 !server krock
17:35 MinetestBot sfan5: No results
17:35 Krock !server Krock's
17:35 MinetestBot Krock: No results
17:35 Krock :/
17:35 sfan5 !server krock
17:35 MinetestBot sfan5: Krock's Ultimative Platform | minetest.ntdll.net | Clients: 8/20, 5/8 | Version: 0.4.10-dev_MSVC / minetest | Ping: 4ms
17:35 sfan5 ah there it is
17:35 Krock 4ms ping? very nice
17:36 sfan5 !server ping:least
17:36 MinetestBot sfan5: No results
17:36 sfan5 o.O
17:36 Krock !server players:2
17:36 MinetestBot Krock: No results
17:37 Krock !server clients_max:20
17:37 MinetestBot Krock: No results
17:37 PenguinDad !server players:most
17:37 MinetestBot PenguinDad: No results
17:38 sfan5 now I still need to fix !server
17:38 Krock good lucj
17:39 * Jordach starts work on the super simple 9th Generation Prototype
17:42 VanessaE prototype?
17:42 Jordach VanessaE, 20 objects -> 1 object for import
17:43 VanessaE ohhhh
17:43 Jordach less work for me to do when blending
17:47 Jordach and it allows me to add new features without cloning the mesh
17:52 sfan5 !wiki minetest.on_punch
17:52 MinetestBot No such page.
17:52 sfan5 !devwiki minetest.on_punch
17:52 sfan5 MinetestBot!
17:52 MinetestBot sfan5!
17:52 sfan5 !devwiki minetest.on_punch
17:53 Krock :/
17:53 Krock !wiki test
17:53 MinetestBot No such page.
17:53 Krock !devwiki test
17:53 sfan5 !wiki Troubleshooting
17:53 MinetestBot "This page lists common technical problems like crashes and error messages (enclosed in quotation marks) and possible solutions or explanations." - http://wiki.minetest.net/Troubleshooting
17:53 sfan5 !wiki Mese
17:53 MinetestBot "<br />" - http://wiki.minetest.net/Mese
17:54 sfan5 lol
17:54 Krock <br /> :D
17:54 PenguinDad !dev Git
17:55 sfan5 hm
18:00 Calinou O_o you can use /set fps_max N to change FPS limit while playing singleplayer
18:00 Calinou change FOV too
18:05 PenguinDad "One tree can make a million matches and one match can burn a million trees." simplifies to "One tree can burn a trillion trees."
18:06 Krock terroyst
18:07 EvergreenTree I hope I am not the one of those trees
18:07 EvergreenTree :P
18:08 Calinou https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=149002#p149002
18:08 Calinou benchmarks of Minetest, finally!
18:09 Calinou Minetest performs well actually
18:09 VanessaE I saw the craziest thing today, speaking of. 45 fps, 240m range, and I was cryptomining on the card at the time, too (R9 280X, pushing 3 MH/s while the game was running)
18:09 VanessaE with default textures, no filters, no waving stuff
18:10 VanessaE really surprised the shit outta me
18:11 Calinou The game was run in a “fake fullscreen†window with compositing enabled, you can get slightly better FPS by disabling compositing. The game seems to be CPU-limited, the graphics card isn't fully used.
18:11 Calinou CPU limit is obvious for that kind of game, but I'll still point out
18:11 VanessaE yes, same here.
18:11 VanessaE (the CPU limit)
18:12 Calinou I used to play with fsaa = 4, pretty but a bit blurred
18:12 VanessaE the question is, what exactly is the CPU doing anyway?
18:12 VanessaE or rather, what's the CPU doing that can't be turned over to the GPU instead?
18:13 Calinou batches sent to the GPU?
18:13 Calinou this has a CPU cost
18:13 Calinou this has a CPU cost
18:14 Calinou I tried FSAA 0, 2 and 4, they have similar FPS, probably due to CPU limit
18:14 Sokomine probably. in singleplayer, it seems chunks are generated much faster than i can see them
18:14 EvergreenTree I have noticed that 0.4.10 uses up a lot mroe cpu then earlier versions
18:15 EvergreenTree it still runs the same speed, it just throttles my cpu (only when outside of building)
18:15 Calinou Sokomine, the game tries to send an insane amount of chunks by default
18:15 Calinou (10 around player, generate 6)
18:15 Calinou Carbone sends 5, generates 5… way saner
18:15 Calinou 0.3.x sent 4, generated 3, felt a bit short, but was generally fine
18:15 Calinou was very lightweight :)
18:16 Calinou for range 10 to be useful, you must use a view range of at least 160, very few people use such a thing
18:16 Calinou I use range 100, and even then, I don't really seem to be limited by sending 5 blocks
18:16 Sokomine 16x16 mapblocks or chunks (afaik something like 5 blocks or so?)
18:17 PenguinDad 10 chunks would be insane
18:17 Sokomine ah, ok. so these 16x16 things
18:17 * Jordach calls bs
18:17 EvergreenTree why does the range not set the distance you can see?
18:17 EvergreenTree it only gives a rough idea
18:17 EvergreenTree I wish there was a definite setting which says "see this many chunks"
18:18 Sokomine i'd love to be able to see 160 blocks far. and in a way, i do wish for that. at least for occasional overviews
18:19 Sokomine perhaps, yes. when loading a map on view "far", my fps usally collapse when i take a look at what's already loaded. they tend to recover once that mountain or hill in front of me gets rendered and part of the view is blocked
18:23 Calinou 160 blocks distance is too demanding for most PCs
18:23 Calinou (the ones which play Minetest)
18:23 * Jordach Calinous Calinou
18:24 Calinou my specs are far above the average player, yet they were bought 2.5 years ago, released 3.5 years ago
18:24 Jordach +infinity for MSI
18:24 Calinou Jordach, meh, expensive mobo for nothing
18:24 Calinou 100 € mobo works just as well (no pun intended)
18:24 Jordach Calinou, afterburner actually kicks ass :P
18:24 Calinou (as well… Haswell…)
18:24 Jordach Calinou, pssh
18:24 Calinou Windows-only, proprietary
18:24 Jordach Asus wins on prive
18:24 Calinou you can use it on any card, on any PC anyway
18:25 Jordach Calinou, i actually have to replace my case with a new one
18:25 PenguinDad Jordach: I don't want software that kicks my ass :P
18:25 Exio m5a99x evo here
18:26 Jordach PenguinDad, there was a family guy joke about opening a can of whoop ass :P
18:26 Sokomine might be hard to do for software :)
18:26 EvergreenTree low end asus here
18:26 EvergreenTree :P
18:26 EvergreenTree I'm going to replace it
18:26 Jordach EvergreenTree, sucks to be you; bought a monster 12ft pool from Amazon
18:26 remarco hi all
18:29 * PenguinDad doesn't know Family Guy
18:29 Exio 12ft?
18:30 Jordach http://wolframalpha.com <-
18:40 sfan5 test
18:40 sfan5 yep, works
18:40 sfan5 <sfan5> !dev User:Sfan5
18:40 sfan5 <MinetestBotClone> "bold | italics | underlined | code " - http://dev.minetest.net/User%3ASfan5
18:40 sfan5 hm
18:40 sfan5 doesn't work with ctrl+c
18:41 Krock <u>test</u>
18:42 PenguinDad Bold
18:42 sfan5 !dev User:Sfan5
18:42 MinetestBotClone "bold | italics | underlined | 15code " - http://dev.minetest.net/User%3ASfan5
18:42 Krock test
18:42 sfan5 ^ isn't this awesome?
18:42 Krock how
18:42 Krock B and I are not working
18:42 sfan5 Krock: http://www.ircbeginner.com/ircinfo/colors.html
18:43 sapier [ANNOUNCEMENT] Mobf 2.3.91 prerelease https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=629 ... please test!
18:43 Krock those keys don't work for me :/
18:43 Krock got a GUI instead for colors
18:43 sfan5 Krock: use a decent irc client
18:44 sfan5 like hexchat
18:44 Krock win32 compatible?
18:44 sfan5 y
18:44 sfan5 es
18:44 PenguinDad sfan5: http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/293/d/d/so_awesome_rainbow_dash_by_misterbrony-d4da6jj.png
18:46 Krock Hello hoodedice
18:46 hoodedice Hi Krock
18:47 hoodedice Some one logged in with an IP address on the Minetest wiki and vandalized a page
18:47 hoodedice I reversed their changes for now
18:47 PenguinDad hey hoodedice
18:47 hoodedice Hi PenguinDad
18:47 Krock "Windows 7/8 HexChat 2.10.0" aagh seriously?
18:48 * EvergreenTree gives PenguinDad https://soundcloud.com/f-777/f-777-deadlocked-full-version
18:49 Krock "This program does not support the version of Windows your computer is running." - I hate you.
18:49 PenguinDad nice song EvergreenTree
18:49 hoodedice Yaay
18:49 Calinou https://mediacru.sh/c700ae25a9d9
18:49 MC-URLInfo KeyError: 'blob_type' (file "/home/sfan5/mcurlinfo/modules/mediacrush.py", line 46, in mediacrush)
18:49 Calinou insane FOV
18:49 hoodedice Upgrade to 8.1 noob
18:50 Krock I'll better downgrade to ReactOS
18:50 EvergreenTree f-777 is cool
18:50 Krock don't wanna waste money for something whch is maybe too slow on my PC
18:50 EvergreenTree F-777 ultra is cool, but I couldn't find it on soundcloud
18:50 Krock btw, nice song
18:50 EvergreenTree :S
18:51 PenguinDad Krock: better use linux then
18:51 sfan5 ^
18:51 EvergreenTree ^
18:51 EvergreenTree woh seriously uses reactos?
18:51 EvergreenTree *who
18:51 Krock "Krock does not support the version of LINUX/UNIX your computer is running"
18:51 Krock ^me
18:52 sfan5 !wiki Mese
18:52 MinetestBot "Mese Blocks are the rarest mineral and the third rarest blocks and start appearing very deep underground, under 1024 node lengths below sea level." - http://wiki.minetest.net/Mese
18:52 sfan5 yay, werks!
18:52 EvergreenTree meh, here is f-777's official mix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRGkFkf2r0U
18:52 Krock take this, M
18:52 Krock C
18:52 EvergreenTree it has ultra
18:52 Krock -1024m >:D
18:53 Krock Calinou, almost light speed
18:53 Krock https://cdn.mediacru.sh/bhbwOWi6lcYu.jpg
18:53 sfan5 !server ping:least
18:53 MinetestBot sfan5: Xanadu | 98.166.169.32 | Clients: 22/40, 21/30 | Version: 0.4.10 / minetest | Ping: 139ms
18:54 sfan5 !server ping:most
18:54 MinetestBot sfan5: Krock's Ultimative Platform | minetest.ntdll.net | Clients: 17/20, 10/17 | Version: 0.4.10-dev_MSVC / minetest | Ping: 1694ms
18:54 Krock uh.
18:54 sfan5 Krock: lol, worst ping
18:54 Krock xD
18:54 Krock meh. be4 is was 4ms
18:54 sfan5 nope
18:54 sfan5 that was a bug
18:54 Krock :(
18:55 Krock interesting weather outside...
18:55 Krock kinda stormy
18:55 hoodedice !server ping:least
18:55 MinetestBot hoodedice: Xanadu | 98.166.169.32 | Clients: 22/40, 21/30 | Version: 0.4.10 / minetest | Ping: 139ms
18:56 PenguinDad My sky is full of default:cloud D:
18:56 hoodedice oh lol didn't see sfan already tried that out
19:03 Calinou “Coolâ€: https://cdn.mediacru.sh/a-_gYB5IEFf-.jpg
19:03 Calinou “:'(â€: https://cdn.mediacru.sh/_7j6Uqfjeg2i.jpg
19:03 Krock my sky is full of weather:sormrain
19:04 Krock +t
19:04 Krock Calinou, ah I see :P
19:04 Krock interesting mese
19:04 Calinou found surface acid
19:04 * hoodedice doesn't get it
19:05 Calinou Krock, Meze (see it as counterfeit Mese if it amuses you); drops nothing, kills you 5 seconds after digging it; spawns above sea level only
19:05 hoodedice Is it about the bronze pick?
19:05 hoodedice oh lol
19:05 Calinou in Carbone, (real) Mese may spawn above -1024 sometimes
19:05 Calinou hoodedice, it's a wooden pick, but I made the tool part brighter
19:05 sfan5 !server ping:least
19:05 MinetestBot sfan5: Xanadu | 98.166.169.32 | Clients: 25/40, 22/30 | Version: 0.4.10 / minetest | Ping: 124ms
19:05 Calinou (this is the spawn loadout, except torches where you have 10 of them only)
19:05 Krock Calinou, I got a déja vu..or so
19:05 PenguinDad !server ping:worst
19:05 MinetestBot PenguinDad: No results
19:06 Calinou long time ago I wanted to add such a thing, but I only did it now
19:06 Calinou to me, it seems like a fun idea
19:06 Calinou to compensate for the fact you find Mese at surface
19:07 sfan5 PenguinDad: "most"
19:07 Calinou Add a better name for alternate split stone tiles: Checked Stone Tile.
19:07 PenguinDad !server ping:most
19:07 MinetestBot PenguinDad: Pripyat | mike402.ddns.net:50000 | Clients: 0/24, 1/7 | Version: 0.4.10-dev / minetest | Ping: 3290ms
19:07 Calinou in More Blocks
19:07 Calinou !server ping:least
19:07 MinetestBot Calinou: Xanadu | 98.166.169.32 | Clients: 31/40, 22/31 | Version: 0.4.10 / minetest | Ping: 125ms
19:07 Calinou heh, still 125ms
19:07 Calinou lots of clients
19:09 hoodedice Say, I think the GUI scale scroller should indicate that it is necessary to restart minetest to see changes
19:11 Calinou http://0bin.net/paste/f86h+7ND0QnZo+BY#9ndO4CWjEvVpTaOdbtOrXvRXYQC8Rj5lLNnOmlWV8x2 → same groups, but the Meze is longer to dig and can't be dug with wooden or stone pickaxe, why?
19:12 hoodedice After looking at Lightbeam after one month of usage without Do Not Track and withoout Adblock
19:12 hoodedice I've decided to enable both
19:13 Calinou welcome on our side
19:13 * Calinou opens the teamdoor for hoodedice
19:13 * hoodedice declines
19:13 * hoodedice still uses Microsoft Windows 8.1 LTA
19:13 hoodedice *LTS
19:13 hoodedice Hi Miner_48er
19:14 hoodedice Hi MinetestBot
19:14 MinetestBot Hi hoodedice
19:14 Miner_48er hi
19:14 hoodedice pinged you by mstake, sorry
19:15 Sokomine hi
19:18 sfan5 !server players:most
19:18 MinetestBot TypeError: list indices must be integers, not NoneType (file "/home/user/mtbot/modules/server.py", line 128, in <genexpr>)
19:18 sfan5 >.>
19:19 Krock MTBCPM
19:19 Krock minetestbot crashes per minute
19:20 VanessaE Calinou: check your /msgs
19:21 heavygale VanessaE: i instales your hdx texture pack, but only the hand and the bottom half of steel doors got replaced Oo
19:22 PenguinDad heavygale: could be a broken zip
19:22 heavygale i can view the files
19:22 heavygale should be ok
19:23 heavygale I'll try a smaller one
19:23 heavygale http://minetest.manifo.com/photorealistic-hdx-vanessae download links are broken :D
19:24 hoodedice heavygale: That is not a recognized minetest site
19:25 hoodedice Hello Sokomine
19:25 Exio Calinou, ...
19:25 Exio Calinou, 8 cores?
19:25 Krock heavygale, https://forum.minetest.net/
19:26 heavygale recognized? :D
19:26 heavygale whats up with the forum?
19:27 Krock try to get the TP from there
19:27 heavygale i got it from gitup
19:27 heavygale https://github.com/search?q=user%3AVanessaE+hdx ;)
19:27 * Jordach smells fish
19:28 heavygale oh i see, downloaded the wring one :D
19:32 Calinou Exio, 8 threads ;)
19:32 Calinou PTS reports cores :/
19:35 Jordach !c 60*60
19:35 MinetestBot 3600
19:37 Krock Jordach, srsly? :P
19:38 Jordach yes
19:39 PenguinDad Krock: did you forget what Jordach is?
19:39 Krock PenguinDad, a blender user
19:39 PenguinDad lol
19:46 EvergreenTree https://atom.io/ is cool
19:46 EvergreenTree sfan5: suggested it
19:47 Jordach >windows alpha
19:47 Jordach <34
19:47 Jordach -4
19:48 * PenguinDad doesn't like atom
19:48 Jordach if it pulls me away from N++ then it's a winner
19:52 Jordach wat
19:52 Jordach >0 Lua highlighting
19:53 Calinou http://blog.marktraceur.info/2014/05/06/a-free-license-isnt-enough/ → is to consider
19:55 Jordach yay
19:56 Jordach circlejerk about how non-free is evil
19:56 Jordach go fuck yourself
19:56 PenguinDad Gitorous is not awesome it's shit imo
19:56 Jordach show me a fucking polished UI that actually does what i want to do
19:56 Jordach FOSS needs to grow up
19:58 PenguinDad Blender is FOSS too
19:58 Calinou potential fix committed, VanessaE
19:58 Calinou (capped to 99 the max)
19:58 Calinou <PenguinDad> Gitorous is not awesome it's shit IMO
19:58 Calinou it does have an issue tracker and .zip download
19:58 Jordach PenguinDad, acting like hippies over a philosiphy isn't good enough
19:58 Calinou and wiki, and merge requests
19:59 Jordach and acting like go fuck yourself to people who need things in their apps (eg - things that are needed badly) doesn't help adoption rates either
20:03 Calinou https://raw.github.com/abe33/atom-color-highlight/master/atom-color-highlight-variables.gif
20:03 Calinou Atom looks promising, it works on Windows using Chocolatey now
20:03 Calinou Jordach, “have to†is however a false thing
20:07 Jordach psh
20:08 Jordach GTK2 is on my hit list
20:08 Jordach where the fuck is focus control; time after time GIMP never fucking appears behind a floating non maximized window
20:14 * Calinou is working on a Geany colour set
20:20 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/3omkLfUp2FHl.png
20:20 Jordach ^ grass sides change every time you play (or when the server restarts)
20:25 Jordach (and this is why i kinda like the idea of new biome types https://cdn.mediacru.sh/Viy8QwCROopr.png )
20:26 Jordach (you can see an ungenerated section if you look closely)
20:41 Krock Verbindung zur echten Website unter forum.minetest.net kann nicht hergestellt werden
20:41 Krock eww
20:42 Megaf people, how do I revert a git pull?
20:42 PenguinDad Krock: Das Zertifikat ist am 20.07.2014 22:19 abgelaufen. Die aktuelle Zeit ist 20.07.2014 22:42.
20:43 Krock you're living in the future
20:43 Krock I have 22.41
20:43 sfan5 Megaf: git reset <commit you want to revert to>
20:43 sfan5 Krock: it's 22:43
20:43 Megaf ok
20:43 Megaf Thanks
20:44 Krock :/
20:45 Megaf sfan5; is that all?
20:45 sfan5 yes
20:45 Megaf hm
20:45 sfan5 maybe add a --hard
20:45 Megaf my girlfriend made a big thing with nodebox editor, and now it changed some nodes positions
20:49 Exio sfan5, git stash then?
20:49 Exio afaik that will keep the changes (but un-commited)
20:50 sfan5 yes it will do that
20:51 Calinou my colour set is ready
20:52 Calinou https://cdn.mediacru.sh/3JWeRAP6gi8E.png
20:52 Calinou thoughts?
20:52 Megaf people, is thare a better nodebox editor than Nodebox Editor?
20:52 Calinou Megaf, nope
20:52 Megaf It is really buggy
20:53 Megaf Jordach; is it easy to use Bender to make nodes?
20:53 Calinou no bugs here
20:53 Calinou you can't use Blender to make nodeboxes…
20:53 Calinou moving cubes around in Blender is less easy than you think
20:53 Megaf Jordach made
20:53 Calinou if you want to prototype, use Tesseract ;)
20:54 Calinou http://s14.directupload.net/images/140304/y7r7g5df.gif → this is much prettier in comparison, but font is larger and smoothed better (OS X)
20:54 PenguinDad Megaf: I'm not sure how Bender is going to help you with nodeboxes ;)
20:55 Calinou woo 23 points with a reddit comment
20:55 Calinou I may reach 1000 comment karma soon
20:56 crazyR anyone know what this means: Server destructing
20:57 eth0 hello hello, am I the only one having SSL problems to acess the forum?
20:57 PenguinDad crazyR: the opposite to Server constructing
20:58 PenguinDad eth0: most of us are having problems
20:58 eth0 that's sad
20:58 crazyR lol i guessed that but why would it happen on a new server with no other error output
20:59 eth0 i got a really big problem that won't let me play in my previous world
20:59 eth0 i got 99 at every node of my furnace
20:59 eth0 and kept melting things
20:59 eth0 now i try to open my game and get this error
21:00 eth0 http://i.imgur.com/GWwM5U4.png
21:00 PenguinDad ^ Calinou
21:00 eth0 yeah
21:00 eth0 i'm playing carbone
21:02 Calinou remove furnace ABM, maybe
21:02 Calinou from code
21:02 Calinou temporarily
21:02 Calinou it's strange
21:02 Calinou does this happen in minetest_next?
21:02 Calinou minetest_game*
21:02 eth0 i can to reproduce
21:02 eth0 in minetest_game
21:02 LemonLake eth0: excuse me?
21:02 LemonLake oh
21:03 Calinou https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/82342922/.config/geany/colorschemes/calinou.conf
21:03 LemonLake hai peoples
21:03 Calinou eth0, then report it here: http://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues
21:03 Calinou hi LemonLake :)
21:03 LemonLake what is a hsts failure?
21:03 eth0 but how exactly should i remove the furnace?
21:06 Krock wrench.
21:06 LemonLake :/
21:06 LemonLake i has hsts failiure with minetest.net
21:07 Calinou fixed operator colour
21:07 PenguinDad LemonLake: blame xyz
21:07 webdesigner97 I cannot acccess the forums anymore, the SSL certificate expired
21:07 LemonLake webdesigner97: same
21:07 webdesigner97 gr
21:07 LemonLake at least its not me
21:08 PenguinDad that was reported how many times now?
21:08 eth0 is there anyway to increase the max number of itens per nodes?
21:08 webdesigner97 So I won't be able to access the forums now :(
21:09 PenguinDad webdesigner97: that won't kill you
21:09 crazyR https://gist.github.com/crazyR14/01c31d0206176f3373bb <--- can someone please take a look at that log and see if they can spot a reason as to why the server would destruct without error upon a player joining
21:10 webdesigner97 PenguinDad: Firefox doesn't allow me to set an exception...
21:10 webdesigner97 I wonder why
21:10 LemonLake webdesigner97: connect without https
21:10 webdesigner97 redirects me to https
21:10 LemonLake wanker, it redirects
21:10 LemonLake im going to kill that bastard
21:10 LemonLake who programmed
21:10 LemonLake a redirect
21:11 LemonLake and imgur is down
21:11 * sfan5 meows at LemonLake
21:11 LemonLake today is a bad day
21:13 VanessaE I can't connect without https either.
21:13 VanessaE (chromium)
21:13 sfan5 VanessaE: 18<xyz> i mean i'll fix it in a moment
21:13 LemonLake what did xyz say before that?
21:13 sfan5 <xyz> lol
21:13 Calinou https://cdn.mediacru.sh/-e7VynlcRuwm.png
21:13 Calinou improved
21:14 LemonLake Calinou, why a screenshot?
21:14 LemonLake and is that sublime text? it looks like sublime text
21:14 LemonLake but with different colors
21:14 crazyR anyone?
21:14 Calinou Geany :p
21:14 Calinou LemonLake, to let you see colours
21:14 Calinou I made a colour scheme
21:14 Calinou (already pasted link here)
21:14 LemonLake oh i see
21:14 Calinou much prettier than default, feels more modern
21:15 LemonLake if you want modern, try sublime text
21:15 LemonLake fancy features it has
21:15 sfan5 or http://atom.io
21:15 * sfan5 goes to sleep
21:15 crazyR hello wall how you doing?
21:15 sfan5 sleeping
21:15 Calinou sfan5, I took inspiration from that exactly
21:15 Calinou night sfan5
21:16 LemonLake night sfan
21:17 Calinou SSL error! can't add exception!
21:18 eth0 Calinou, how I remove furnace?
21:18 Calinou change your computer time to fix SSL bug
21:19 LemonLake good idea
21:19 LemonLake but then it's not secure
21:19 LemonLake it's not a bug, it's just expired
21:19 Calinou it's not like you're browsing without HTTPS
21:20 Calinou eth0, open games/carbone/mods/default/nodes.lua, at line 1821, add --[[, at line 1913, add --]]
21:20 Calinou to comment out the furnace ABM
21:21 Calinou that's for the non-locked furnaces
21:21 Calinou for locked furnaces, another ABM is used
21:21 Calinou but I presume you're using a non-locked furnace here
21:21 eth0 now I was using th locked one
21:21 LemonLake Calinou: or fix it yourself?
21:22 Calinou no time for now, heh
21:22 Calinou eth0, then add --[[ at line 1702 and --]] at line 1812
21:23 Calinou save, run the game
21:23 Calinou the furnace will stop acting (won't smelt anything)
21:23 eth0 wow nice
21:24 Calinou take items out, then re-enable the ABM by removing the comment marks
21:24 Calinou and next time make sure not all slots are full :P
21:24 crazyR anyone having issues with ssl on the forums using firefox do this: go to Options -> Advanced -> View Certificates -> Servers -> Add Exception
21:24 crazyR then type in the full domain
21:24 LemonLake i'd rather wait for a new certificate.
21:25 VanessaE crazyR: doesn't work for everyone.
21:25 VanessaE not everyone has the same browser as you
21:25 Calinou it's totally 18:24!!!
21:25 * Calinou runs
21:25 LemonLake Calinou: it is
21:27 crazyR anyone been able to check this log out
21:27 crazyR https://gist.github.com/crazyR14/01c31d0206176f3373bb
21:27 VanessaE crazyR: no idea about those sudden restarts - try running it in gdb
21:28 PenguinDad crazyR: that doesn't fix it for me
21:28 eth0 Calinou, it worked like a charm, thank you a lot, I was avout to lose my whole gamr
21:28 eth0 game*
21:29 Calinou no problem :)
21:29 LemonLake imgur is back at least
21:30 Calinou night
21:30 VanessaE jeez
21:31 VanessaE first gmail's certs, then the forum, then imgur
21:31 VanessaE who else's certs are gonna expire?
21:32 PenguinDad VanessaE: HitHub's of course
21:32 PenguinDad *GitHub
21:32 Calinou HitHub lol
21:32 VanessaE PenguinDad: with my luck, it'll be Xubuntu's or Debian's next.
21:33 Calinou EFF would be the most laughable at
21:33 Calinou or anything that regards privacy a lot
21:33 Calinou (laughable because it shows the flaw of CAs…)
21:34 PenguinDad this site would be hilarious https://www.howsmyssl.com/
21:34 crazyR VanessaE: how would i debug minetest with gdb. i got no experiance with it lol
21:34 Calinou crazyR, cmake . -DRELEASE_TYPE="Debug"; cd src; make -j2; cd ../bin; gdb ./minetest; “runâ€; “bt fullâ€
21:34 VanessaE crazyR: make sure your copy of Minetest is a debug build (idk which ones are), then just 'gdb minetest' and when it presents you with a pro.......
21:35 VanessaE yeah, what Calinou said.
21:35 * VanessaE is ninja'd.
21:35 Calinou (I think it's -DRELEASE_TYPE, not sure)
21:35 crazyR lol, thanks
21:35 Calinou -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Debug
21:35 Calinou it is that
21:38 LemonLake well hey
21:38 LemonLake forums are back
21:39 paramat \0/
21:39 PenguinDad LemonLake: they weren't down at all
21:39 LemonLake i mean the sssssssssl
21:39 LemonLake stop being a smart ass
21:40 PenguinDad *tsl
21:40 LemonLake excuse me?
22:03 PenguinDad yay forums are back!
22:05 swaaws good work^^