Time Nick Message 00:00 hisforever HAS ANYBODY GOT THE CHRISTMAS MODE TO WORK? 00:02 shadowzone Yep 00:03 hisforever I've renamed it Shadowzone but it still won't work grrrr 00:03 shadowzone hmmm 00:03 shadowzone weird 00:04 shadowzone ask OldCoder 00:04 hisforever OldCoder are you here? 00:05 hisforever think I'll delete and reinstall it see if that works 00:08 SergioAD somebody can help me to make the other two missing textures for my modpack? 00:10 SergioAD OldCoder: do you are a Fedora user? cool 00:10 SergioAD oh pardon me, wrong channel 00:10 SergioAD LOL 00:10 SergioAD OldCoder: making my vey own mod 00:11 SergioAD BUT I need help with the textures 00:13 SergioAD are a new material a new block and a new pike 00:15 SergioAD OldCoder: jordach has made this one as the refined diamond's texture https://github.com/Jordach/big_freaking_dig/commit/22fd286e29afc0a9600f40fe4fe713476d7fd42a 00:16 SergioAD I only need a diamond pickaxe and a diamond block with the same texture to complete my brand new mod 00:17 jojoa1997 Yello 00:17 SergioAD the pickaxe resists 999 ues :) 00:17 SergioAD the refined diamond pickaxe 00:20 SergioAD Hello jojoa1997, OldCoder this pickaxe has not special effects but I plain add one made by a magma crystal block an ice crystal block and a refined diamond named as magic pickaxe that has the effects of certain ice tool on water and the effect of the magma pckaxe on the rock / stoe / ores 00:20 SergioAD so will be amazing 00:21 SergioAD also this one (wich is hard to make it specially because of the needed crystals) will resist 99999 uses 00:21 SergioAD so will be practically unbreakable 00:27 realbadangel hisforever, you mean this one? https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=10701 00:28 hisforever no but I'll get that one and try it ty 00:30 hisforever ty soo much 00:35 SergioAD OldCoder: do you know somebody who can help me? 00:37 SergioAD I will not ask to you for direct help because I have pendent with you my server but because I need original content I am searching for somebody who can help me to do that 01:02 hisforever is there a newer minetest than 0.4.10? 01:02 OldCoder Hi 01:02 OldCoder hisforever this month possibly 01:02 OldCoder SergioAD, I do not understand the question yet 01:03 OldCoder I do not use Fedora 01:03 OldCoder I use a distro that I created 01:03 OldCoder And Debian for VPS 01:03 hisforever ok ty I can't get the christmas craft to work all it dose id give me code errors 01:03 OldCoder Do you mean on your own PC or on a world? 01:04 hisforever world 01:04 hisforever I use dreambuilders game 01:04 hisforever I run Manjaro linux 01:09 realbadangel hisforever, you should compile on your own to get latest mt 01:09 realbadangel next stable, 0.4.11 will be aviable before xmas 01:10 hisforever ty realbad angel 01:10 AgentFire realbadangel: Have you ever considered making the locked chests in technic sharable? 01:10 realbadangel AgentFire, i dont quite understand the point. if locked then !shareable 01:11 hisforever I'm not good at coding 01:11 VanessaE realbadangel: like Sokomine's shared locked chests mod. 01:11 VanessaE maybe that's what he wants. 01:11 realbadangel hisforever, its quite easy 01:12 AgentFire VanessaE: Kind of, but less complicated. I like the idea of sharing locked things, but that whole key and keychain thing. I didn't understand it one bit 01:19 SergioAD OldCoder: I am asking if you know about somebody who can make some textures for my mod 01:20 SergioAD well you know, I am not a developer nor a graphical designer 01:20 realbadangel SergioAD, try askin VanessaE 01:20 SergioAD Ok :) 01:20 * VanessaE hides 01:21 OldCoder SergioAD, you are asking for artwork? 01:21 OldCoder Learn GIMP 01:22 OldCoder You can probably contribute in this area 01:22 OldCoder hisforever, the mod is not maintained 01:22 OldCoder I needed to delete the sticks override block myself 01:23 OldCoder For other reasons; try removing that first 01:23 SergioAD yes, I know that 01:23 OldCoder Then report more specifically what the error is 01:24 realbadangel http://i.imgur.com/brjoH3X.png 01:24 realbadangel ^^nice to see that some1 is using meshnodes well 01:24 VanessaE nice 01:25 realbadangel i expect content explode after 0.4.11 release 01:26 SergioAD VanessaE: do you can help me to get ready the missing textures? 01:26 VanessaE I'm taking a break right now 01:26 SergioAD both are based on the default diamond pickaxe and diamond block but are more transparent 01:27 realbadangel VanessaE, oh cmon, HELP him :) 01:27 SergioAD here is the model of the diamond https://mediacru.sh/download/Q/Q6StSV3LHUjv.png 01:27 OldCoder VanessaE, perhaps offer him tips on how to do it himself 01:28 VanessaE I'm afraid I have no tips or advice right now 01:28 VanessaE you caught me at a bad time, creatively. 01:28 realbadangel hold on a second 01:29 realbadangel this texture is actually quite good 01:29 realbadangel i mean the diamond 01:29 VanessaE indeed 01:29 VanessaE just do layer -> transparency -> add alpha channel, then select-by-color on the black areas and cut or delete. 01:30 VanessaE then you can use it as an inventory image 01:30 SergioAD how to apply it on the pickaxe's diamond? 01:31 VanessaE the default pick? select-by-color on the blue and blue-white areas and just tweak the colors with Colors -> Hue-Saturation 01:32 realbadangel http://i.imgur.com/yJUexCv.png 01:32 VanessaE be sure you do Image -> Mode -> RGB first. 01:32 SergioAD I will give a try 01:32 VanessaE usually you don't apply a second image to the pick when changing it; not knowing what it is you're trying to actually DO, it's hard to make suggestions 01:33 realbadangel select an area with curves (to select all the pixels) 01:33 realbadangel and then use source image as the brush 01:34 SergioAD VanessaE: only I want to make the diamond pike has the same transparency on the blade as the diamond 01:35 VanessaE the default diamond doesn't have any transparency that I am aware of? 01:35 VanessaE (other than entirely empty areas, of course) 01:36 SergioAD nope the default diamond is opaque, I want use the default diamond pickaxe to get a better one with a semitransparent diamond 01:37 VanessaE I see 01:37 SergioAD BTW pardon me because of my bad English 01:38 VanessaE in that case, Image -> Mode -> RGB, Select-by-color on the blue and blue-white areas of the pick head, adjust the colors with Colors -> Hue-Saturation, then use the Eraser with the opacity set to around 10 percent 01:38 VanessaE periodically tweak how much of the head you select with the Select-by-color tool, erase, repeat 01:38 VanessaE until you have the desired level of translucency. 01:39 realbadangel http://i.imgur.com/ScHNs16.png 01:39 VanessaE but bear in mind: 01:39 VanessaE the pick won't have any translucency when wielded. 01:39 VanessaE it will be entirely opaque. 01:39 realbadangel imho that diamond texture is cool 01:39 VanessaE realbadangel: indeed sop. 01:39 VanessaE so* 01:40 SergioAD I see, so sad 01:41 * realbadangel runs away in panic screaming: please no requests for translucency when wielded!!! aaaaaa!!!! 01:41 VanessaE realbadangel: no, that's kahrl's department :"P 01:41 VanessaE :P 01:43 realbadangel well, its a mixed area lately 01:44 realbadangel like Ukraine lately ;) 01:44 VanessaE did I just hear an offer to code it? ;) 01:45 realbadangel well, its quite easy in fact 01:45 realbadangel i havent added that feature because of waving 01:45 realbadangel but some1 on git gave me a solution to that 01:46 realbadangel just copy a shader without waving code and use it in this case 01:47 realbadangel most simple solutions are usually most hard to find ;) 01:49 SergioAD realbadangel VanessaE can you help me to make it with not waving? 01:49 VanessaE SergioAD: what you ask is not possible right now. 01:49 VanessaE translucency in wielded objects is not supported. 01:49 SergioAD I see :( 01:50 realbadangel SergioAD, your request is accounted and will be done in the future 01:50 realbadangel xmas is coming ;) 01:51 SergioAD or maybe the diamond but in a light blue (almost white) instead of diamond's blue 01:51 SergioAD ? 01:53 SergioAD or some other color related with diamonds 01:53 SergioAD maybe a dark blue? 01:53 SergioAD I can do it for the default diamond and diamond block but not on the pickaxe; somebody can help me with the pickaxe? 01:55 VanessaE I just told you how :P 01:56 VanessaE [09-12 20:38] in that case, Image -> Mode -> RGB, Select-by-color on the blue and blue-white areas of the pick head, adjust the colors with Colors -> Hue-Saturation [...] 02:00 exio4 the commit name seems longer than the changes themselves 02:00 exio4 https://github.com/EXio4/yixem/commit/b32853450024b1ca0b45d341851ca7aff4e134ae 02:00 VanessaE haha 02:05 SergioAD Ok 02:20 SergioAD Ok let's try it, good bye 02:28 Yellowberry exio4, a new language, eh? 02:29 exio4 Yellowberry, more like "I am bored and need something to do" 02:29 Yellowberry lol 02:34 VanessaE exio4: rewrite Minetest in brainfuck. :) 02:35 Pentium44 did anyone ever get MT running at a decent speed on a RPI? 02:35 exio4 why brainfuck, if you have yixem 02:36 VanessaE Pentium44: not that I ever heard. 02:36 VanessaE exio4: why not? :) 02:36 Pentium44 brainfuck best language :D 02:36 Yellowberry yes 02:36 Yellowberry totally 02:40 SergioAD Hello again, I got errors, can you help me? here is the init file 02:40 SergioAD http://pastebin.com/QsjwuCqe 02:43 exio4 https://github.com/EXio4/yixem/blob/master/yixem-optimizer.hs \o/ 02:43 exio4 barebones though, they're high-level transformation though 02:43 exio4 should have a lower-level programming language that is simpler though 02:46 exio4 man, I feel useless, I code and code, and the line count isn't increased exponentially but at a really slow rate 02:47 SergioAD I see 02:47 exio4 I am talking with myself btw 02:47 SergioAD OldCoder: do you know what can I do? 02:47 exio4 SergioAD, what errors do you get? 02:47 SergioAD oh; pardon me :D 02:48 SergioAD error getting the path of my init.lua but I am using the same path of the file 02:48 exio4 wait 02:48 exio4 ~/.minetest/games/Craftingworld/mods/refined_diamond/init.lua 02:48 exio4 minetest.get_modpath("refined") 02:48 exio4 I don't see the same name there 02:48 SergioAD do you need the entere mod to check it? 02:49 exio4 or is "refined" other mod you are loading its files? 02:49 SergioAD nope 02:49 SergioAD pardon me, I am a complete novice with mods 02:50 exio4 so, there is your error 02:50 exio4 :P 02:51 SergioAD is this the error? well I will check 02:52 SergioAD if I find more errors I will advice you :D 02:52 SergioAD nope, the error persists 02:56 Yellowberry https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H588NOk-G8U 02:57 Yellowberry installing monodevelop 02:58 Yellowberry exio4, do you know C#? 02:58 exio4 F# 02:58 exio4 also, NICE! there was a powercutr 02:58 exio4 s/r$// 02:59 SergioAD exio4: nope, has not worked 02:59 exio4 hm.. 02:59 exio4 I don't really know then? 02:59 Yellowberry lolololol 02:59 exio4 I don't have the actual error 03:00 exio4 well, powercut + ups = a nice story 03:00 Yellowberry it appears that TPB is somewhat blocked by google DNS 03:00 Yellowberry hehe 03:00 exio4 the UPS saved me like for the 13th time this week 03:01 SergioAD can I sed you the mod? 03:01 exio4 not really, I don't have minetest in this laptop 03:02 SergioAD I see 03:02 exio4 (and my desktop is off because well, powercut and using emergency system) 03:02 AgentFire Minetest is drunk and needs to go home 03:03 SergioAD hmmmmmm somebody can test my game to check why the mod is not going correctlly? 03:03 exio4 brb 03:03 AgentFire Sokomine: Beware, people dying in elevators glitch the elevators 03:03 SergioAD geting the mod working I will have the posibility to create a server with original content :) 03:06 exio4 I don't know how I lived without the UPS 03:07 exio4 probably another powercut in a few minutes 03:14 exio4 Yellowberry: do you know how I could access TPB? 03:17 exio4 oh, another spanish speaker! buenas SergioAD :D 03:27 SergioAD buena, exio4: 03:28 SergioAD buenas aquí tratando de darle sentido a la estructura de mi mod 03:29 SergioAD OldCoder: can you help me to fix the issues? after you finih with the fixes you can upload it to your server; I will help you with some tasks 03:30 SergioAD like the spawn construction 03:31 exio4 SergioAD: cual era el error en si? podes pastiar lo que te tira minetest cuando probas correrlo? 03:31 SergioAD claro 03:32 SergioAD he cambiado el nombre del mod y del juego / I have changed the mod and game's names 03:32 exio4 vamos a ##minetest-es 03:32 SergioAD Ok 03:36 SergioAD if somebody know what I need to do please inform me :D 03:40 Zeno` Sokomine, I can't get this experimental inv_move_demo to behave the way to describe in the README :/ 03:45 Zeno` well instead of losing stack B I can double stack B hehe 04:03 SergioAD Here is the error of my mod http://pastebin.com/F4zPH42T 04:17 Sokomine AgentFire: hmm. bones that do replace nodes are a problem :-( they ought to be fixed and be placed only on top of other nodes...where there's air and free space. it might still be a problem with the travelnet, as that extends 2 nodes high while beeing one node. the elevators are two seperate nodes 04:18 Sokomine Zeno`: that may happen as well in some situations 04:18 Sokomine Zeno`: rule of thumb is that you'll loose the stack you wanted to keep.... 04:18 Zeno` That's the problem. I don't seem to be losing anything 04:19 Zeno` Maybe I'm doing it wrong :3 04:19 Sokomine Zeno`: hm. let me test it again in one of my worlds. could be that something changed recently 04:22 SergioAD hello somebody can analize my init file to check where I am failing? 04:23 SergioAD http://pastebin.com/FA8a8NfE 04:24 Zeno` Well, line 14 has a typo in it 04:25 SergioAD in wich part? 04:25 Zeno` output = "haediamond:diamond", ---> output = "hardiamond:diamond", 04:26 Zeno` the 'e' part :) 04:26 SergioAD corrected; ay other thing? 04:27 SergioAD is my very first mod 04:27 Zeno` Not sure. Are you getting errors? 04:27 SergioAD so I am totally unexperienced :( 04:27 Zeno` You have to start somewhere, so that's fine :) 04:27 SergioAD yes, errors with the syntax 04:29 SergioAD if you can please identify the typos; as I said I am totally unexperienced moding :D 04:30 Zeno` you're missing a closing brace } for recipe on line 36; i.e. between lines 39 and 40 there should be a } 04:32 Zeno` Also you need a depends.txt file with a single line in it. So it looks like: 04:32 Zeno` default 04:32 Zeno` You needs that because you're using a sound from the default game 04:33 Zeno` as well as default:diamond :) 04:34 SergioAD I see 04:35 Zeno` http://pastebin.com/eH7TNukg <--- works for me (once I add the depends.txt file in the same directory) 04:51 SergioAD YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY it is working; thank you so much Zeno` 04:51 SergioAD my refined pickaxe is the most powerfull on the game :) 04:52 Zeno` yeah... you don't think it's a little bit TOO powerful? :D 05:01 SergioAD yes but this is why is hard to make :) 05:02 SergioAD here is a problem now on the game it appears as unknown item 05:06 OldCoder SergioAD, reviewing 05:07 OldCoder SergioAD, if you'd like me to look at a mod, let me know when you're ready 05:31 SergioAD OldCoder: ok 05:32 SergioAD can you help me to patch the little issues? 05:32 SergioAD I will send you the entere game with world 05:34 OldCoder SergioAD, do you have an individual mod to review? 05:34 OldCoder Or are you asking me to look at multiple mods in a _game ? 05:35 OldCoder SergioAD, I agree with Zeno` implied point that powerful tools can throw off game balance 05:35 OldCoder Hard to make does not entirely fix this 05:36 SergioAD Ok, I will make it less powerfull but with the same resistence 05:40 Pentium44 OldCoder, PM 05:41 OldCoder Pentium44, wait 06:10 SergioAD OldCoder: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6VUkpZzqL7hRFkyTTYySS16RUk/view?usp=sharing 06:10 ThatGraemeGuy anyone else noticed that water is becoming opaque every now and then? can't recall that it used to do that :-/ 06:10 SergioAD the mod with not many attack and power less 06:13 OldCoder SergioAD, all right 06:13 OldCoder SergioAD, github is really much better for this 06:13 MinetestBot 02[git] 04kahrl -> 03minetest/minetest: Add paste command (Ctrl-V) in GUIChatConsole 13daefd0a http://git.io/2-fKTA (152014-12-10T07:12:08+01:00) 06:14 OldCoder What do you wish me to do; install it now and ask somebody to test it? 06:15 SergioAD if you can add the necesary patches to make it work and if you want you can use the refined diamond block instead of the refined diamonds for the blade and refined diamonds for the rest of the pike 06:16 SergioAD only use it on a single player mode to test it and patch it :) 06:16 SergioAD if the patches can be applied and the mod passes the test before the patching you can use my game for one new server 06:16 OldCoder SergioAD, kindly put this stuff in a top level directly? 06:17 OldCoder Unzipping just plopped a lot of junk in my mods folder 06:17 OldCoder directory * 06:17 SergioAD yes, it has been set up to work as a normal mod 06:17 SergioAD can be used as a part of a game or a mod 06:17 OldCoder It needs a top-level folder 06:17 OldCoder SergioAD, do you follow? 06:18 SergioAD I think :) 06:18 SergioAD can you explain yourself? 06:18 OldCoder SergioAD, it is very messy to make a mod without a top level folder 06:18 OldCoder Put the files in a folder named hardiamond 06:19 OldCoder And then ZIP the folder; not the files! 06:19 SergioAD Oh OK 06:21 OldCoder I am testing now 06:21 OldCoder And also use github 06:22 OldCoder And also use github SergioAD 06:23 SergioAD_ re compressing it 06:25 SergioAD_ https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6VUkpZzqL7hYXRCWkFadU5aVnc/view?usp=sharing 06:25 SergioAD_ here it is 06:26 SergioAD_ recompressed 06:26 OldCoder SergioAD_, already changing it 06:26 OldCoder You have a typo 06:26 OldCoder haediamond 06:26 OldCoder fix that 06:26 SergioAD_ Ok :) 06:26 OldCoder A player reports that the pick does not work 06:29 SergioAD_ fixing it 06:29 SergioAD_ ready, I will re upload it 06:31 OldCoder You left out the image! 06:31 OldCoder harddiamond_tool_diamondpick.png 06:31 OldCoder Link just that image, please 06:32 OldCoder refined_tool_diamondpick.png 06:32 OldCoder Is it supposed to be that? 06:32 OldCoder SergioAD_, answer, please 06:32 OldCoder I have spent time on this 06:33 SergioAD_ fixed 06:33 OldCoder Different link? 06:33 OldCoder Respond please, I am working IRL 06:33 SergioAD_ yep 06:33 OldCoder and have taken time to look at this 06:33 OldCoder What is the link? 06:33 OldCoder SergioAD_, didn't you test this AT ALL yourself? 06:34 OldCoder Why did you ask others to test it when you had not tried it yourself? 06:34 SergioAD_ The new one https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6VUkpZzqL7hWFFxT3YwaTBGTjg/view?usp=sharing 06:34 OldCoder See question. I do not mean to speak strongly. 06:34 OldCoder But why did you ask others to test it when you had not tried it yourself? 06:35 SergioAD_ I ask to others to be betatesters to accelerate the final release :) 06:35 OldCoder SergioAD_, D: 06:35 SergioAD_ I have tried it 06:35 OldCoder This is not beta 06:35 OldCoder If you tried it, why did you not see that your images were missing? 06:36 OldCoder and the image is STILL missing 06:36 OldCoder Wait 06:36 SergioAD_ because I am not good making mods :) it is my very first one 06:36 OldCoder So it is correct image and incorrect code; patching my copy 06:36 OldCoder That is not an excuse 06:36 OldCoder You are clearly sharp 06:37 OldCoder How could you try it and not see the image was not there? 06:37 OldCoder It is suggested that you try your own mods before asking others 06:37 OldCoder Hang on, patching my copy 06:37 SergioAD_ OK 06:38 SergioAD_ in fact, I saw that there where many bugs so I have asked you to patch it, that was all :) 06:39 SergioAD_ I made that for feedback and acceleration of the release 06:42 OldCoder Oh, gee, thanks 06:42 OldCoder So I was there to fix your bugs 06:42 OldCoder :P 06:42 OldCoder What are full punch interview and max drop level? 06:43 OldCoder Respond, please 06:43 OldCoder Look, if you ask people to work for you for free, focus and be responsive 06:44 SergioAD_ I think the punch interview is the frequency of a hit 06:44 OldCoder I have 1 for one of my picks and you have .0001 06:44 OldCoder What's up with that? 06:44 OldCoder This pick is supposed to be 10000X faster?? 06:44 SergioAD_ I think I will modify that on future releases 06:45 SergioAD_ pardon me I am testing it too 06:45 OldCoder Answer, please 06:45 OldCoder From a technical perspective 06:45 OldCoder What does the difference mean? 06:45 OldCoder SergioAD_, focus; I have somebody waiting for a phone call from me 06:45 OldCoder I delayed them to help you 06:46 SergioAD_ I am testing that, please wait a little bit 06:46 OldCoder Answer, please, or I must leave 06:46 OldCoder You are not responding; do you know what the setting does? 06:46 OldCoder That is what I wish to know 06:46 OldCoder I do not wish to wait for a test; if you do not know, that is fine 06:46 SergioAD_ I am testing all the values please wait 06:46 OldCoder But you changed the setting 06:46 OldCoder No, I cannot; I am setting it to match sane values 06:47 OldCoder and asking players elsewhere to test 06:50 SergioAD_ OldCoder: can you send me the patch? 06:50 air does minetest have occlusion culling or just frustum culling? 06:50 SergioAD_ I will make the values more like the others 06:51 OldCoder SergioAD_, I have prepared my version of the mod 06:52 OldCoder Wait while I check it 06:52 SergioAD_ Ok 06:52 SergioAD_ together will be able to get a cool server :) 06:53 OldCoder http://minetest.org/harddiamond.zip 06:53 OldCoder The mod now appears to be working 06:53 OldCoder Note the name change 06:53 SergioAD_ Ok :) 06:53 * OldCoder is busy IRL now 06:55 hmmmm air, it has both 06:57 SergioAD_ OldCoder: tomorrow I will have ready the entere game 06:57 SergioAD_ to make our final release 06:57 air hmmmm: do you know how it works? 06:57 hmmmm yes 07:13 SergioAD_ OldCoder: the diamond stills with not image; how can I solve this? pease say me and I make it happend 07:23 OldCoder Hi 07:23 OldCoder SergioAD_, it works for us 07:23 OldCoder Are you using the ZIP I linked? 07:36 lantizia Hey really impressed with minetest - where can I see a changelog and also a list of what is yet to be implemented? 07:37 DFeniks textures are named refined_diamond.png refined_diamond_block.png , but in init.lua line 8 tiles = {"hard_diamond_block.png"}, line 47 inventory_image = "harddiamond_diamond.png", 07:39 DFeniks change line 8 tiles = {"refined_diamond_block.png"}, 07:40 DFeniks line 47 inventory_image = "refined_diamond.png", 07:40 DFeniks i didnt test it 07:41 DFeniks just readed code in that zip file 07:43 DFeniks but why have textures named differently then mod name and item names at all? 07:46 DFeniks specifically : why texture names use refined diamond but items are called hard diamond? 07:47 DFeniks i guess it doesnt matter . but you have to be consistent and use right texture names in code 08:01 ThatGraemeGuy lantizia: http://dev.minetest.net/Changelog / http://dev.minetest.net/Proposals / http://dev.minetest.net/TODO 08:01 ThatGraemeGuy lantizia: maybe also https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues & https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues 08:10 OldCoder DFeniks, I'm glad just to get that thing working 08:10 OldCoder He can polish it now 08:10 OldCoder lantizia, Hi 08:10 DFeniks SergioAD_ are 9 hard diamonds supposed to craft into default diamond block ? 08:10 OldCoder lantizia, there is a changelog available in the git tree 08:10 OldCoder lantizia, IIRC you can type git log 08:11 DFeniks or more logical into hard diamond block? 08:11 OldCoder DFeniks, I look forward to talking to you further 08:12 DFeniks because there is no way to craft hard diamond block currently 08:12 OldCoder Yes 08:12 OldCoder DFeniks, he states this is his first mod 08:12 SergioAD_ OldCoder: yes, I am using it 08:12 OldCoder Patience is called for 08:12 OldCoder Though he should have tested it himself 08:12 DFeniks can i repair his mod? 08:12 OldCoder Of course! 08:12 OldCoder Tear it apart!! 08:12 OldCoder That is my version anyway 08:13 OldCoder http://minetest.org/harddiamonds.zip 08:13 OldCoder Start with that 08:13 OldCoder And don't make the pick too powerful 08:13 OldCoder I think the settings in there are strong enough already 08:14 OldCoder DFeniks, I am very tired physically 08:14 OldCoder Do you understand I valued the Moontest patches, but simply could not tackle Moontest again 08:14 OldCoder right after the Landrush and Silvercrab rebuilds? 08:15 OldCoder I've got IRL to settle and have spent 2 months regardless trying to help out with MT worlds 08:15 DFeniks is this the same as http://minetest.org/harddiamond.zip or you made typo? 08:15 OldCoder Typo 08:15 OldCoder Wait 08:15 OldCoder Singular 08:15 OldCoder harddiamond 08:15 DFeniks ok i got this 08:15 OldCoder DFeniks, see above. Your time is greatly appreciated. 08:16 OldCoder I need to rest 15 minutes to 8 hours now 08:16 OldCoder May be right back 08:16 DFeniks i already downloaded it before 08:17 DFeniks i dont know much about pick settings . i will just fix names 08:23 DFeniks currently hard diamond block cannot be dig . i tried only hard diamond pick , thought 08:23 DFeniks this may requre more work than i thought 08:41 DFeniks SergioAD_ do you want me to make hard diamond block softer to mine , or make hard diamond pick stronger ? because now block is level 5 and pick is level 3 . i think nothing can mine block now 08:43 DFeniks i still donk know what other numbers mean , so im not sure how to make it balanced 08:44 OldCoder DFeniks, this is a minor mod; do not stress over it. Add comments, I can polish, it can be a model for new MT coders. 08:45 * OldCoder is resting 08:47 DFeniks i didnt made any comments. im not sure what im supposed to comment. and make model for modding sounds harder than just make mod 08:49 ThatGraemeGuy DFeniks: are you working in conjunction with the Lua API doc? It seems that a node with level>2 is not diggable 08:50 ThatGraemeGuy https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt 08:50 ThatGraemeGuy look for tool_capabilities 08:50 DFeniks will check 08:51 DFeniks but no im working only with my intuition and memory scraps that i read somwhere before 08:52 ThatGraemeGuy ah, that seems sub-optimal compared to using the API documentation ;-) 08:52 DFeniks and in minetest game diamond block already is level 3 08:53 ThatGraemeGuy ah ok then I probably misread 08:53 ThatGraemeGuy ah yes I took something out of context 08:54 ThatGraemeGuy If a tool has maxlevel of 2 for a certain group, then a node with the level > 2 is undiggable *for that tool* 08:54 ThatGraemeGuy sorry :-o 09:51 JamesTait Good morning all, happy Human Rights Day! :-D 11:01 kaeza mornings 11:09 Zeno` mornink 11:10 Zeno` kaeza, do you know about Sokomine's issue with items being lost? 11:10 Zeno` let me find it 11:10 Zeno` https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/944 11:11 Zeno` If anybody feels like testing: https://github.com/Zeno-/minetest/commit/d5e0ed07456f09125ccfe6712fa389d84b332423.patch (THAT IS NOT TESTED MUCH AT ALL) 11:13 catninja http://i.imgur.com/jUQBqkG.png is this how you make babies in minetest? 11:13 kaeza Zeno`, don't know much about that, but can test that patch 11:14 catninja planting tiny humans 11:14 kaeza will clone Sokomine/experimental to test 11:15 Zeno` kaeza, actually I couldn't reproduce the problem with her experimental heh 11:15 Zeno` I've had to use moreblocks and the circular saw 11:15 Zeno` (sokomine knows) 11:15 kaeza ah I see 11:16 kaeza also, any testing needed for anything under Windows/MinGW? 11:17 Trixar_za DirectX rendering? 11:18 Zeno` kaeza, the two commits (of Krock's) that I merged 18 hours might need testing on MinGW 11:18 Zeno` I believe MSVC is already tested 11:21 kaeza will test that too 11:21 kaeza my internets are being horribly slow today ;_; 11:22 kaeza >23kbps 11:28 Zeno` that's... worse than mine! 11:54 kaeza everything seems to work fine under MinGW 11:57 Zeno` phew :) 12:06 kaeza Minetest looks so beautiful now... it's almost as if the programmers weren't a bunch of lunatics 12:17 Zeno` it's so pwetty :) 12:56 * PenguinDad is laughing so hard right now 13:15 Zeno` you may laugh! 13:15 Zeno` but... hmm, nvm 13:53 n4x what changes make MT look beautiful? 13:55 kaeza better textures, the fact that I can use view range >= 300 now (yes, 300, insert "this is sparta" joke here), and something was done to formspecs that they don't look (so much) like ass now 13:56 kaeza also those fixes to lighting, etc 13:56 n4x better textures? I have to check! 13:57 n4x kaeza: how are your guantanamo friends going btw :3 13:57 kaeza n4x, no comments on that 13:58 * n4x hides 13:58 n4x I just read about it 13:59 kaeza yeah, four guys trained in explosives by Al-Qaeda, left free to roam the streets 13:59 kaeza what could possibly go wrong? 14:20 VanessaE good morning. 14:21 LazyJ Did you bring the donuts? 14:22 * LazyJ has a french press brewing... 1 more minute. 14:23 ThatGraemeGuy good afternoon 14:41 VanessaE donuts? 14:41 VanessaE gimme! 14:45 Jordach meow 14:46 VanessaE hi 14:55 shadowzone hi Jordach 14:55 shadowzone morning VanessaE 15:00 Zeno` hi VanessaE ! 15:00 Zeno` hi shadowzone ! 15:00 PenguinDad Good morning shadowzone 15:00 Zeno` who's got the doughnuts? 15:00 shadowzone Zeno`: I do 15:00 Zeno` gimme? 15:00 PenguinDad I've only got dough :( 15:00 * shadowzone tosses a doughnut at Zeno` 15:00 Zeno` PenguinDad, hehe 15:01 * Zeno` noms on the yummy 15:02 Zeno` I need another, please 15:02 * shadowzone hands Zeno` a box of 'em 15:03 Zeno` :-D 15:03 shadowzone that should do ya 15:06 Zeno` yep! 15:06 Zeno` thank thee 15:07 shadowzone You're welcome 15:08 shadowzone you know you are a nerd when you have a laptop, desktop PC, tablet, 2 phones and a rover on your desk 15:15 Amaz Zeno`, here you go! https://www.dropbox.com/s/3wbwl6m43p343bs/donut.zip?dl=0 15:15 Zeno` lol, nice mod 15:16 Amaz :P 15:16 Zeno` who would have thought that donuts had mese crystals in them 15:16 Amaz XD 15:16 Zeno` ya learn something new every day 15:16 Amaz *mese crystal fragments 15:17 PenguinDad crunchy donuts :D 15:18 shadowzone Who made that mod? 15:18 Amaz Me. 15:18 shadowzone cool 15:18 Amaz Two seconds ago :P 15:18 shadowzone just now? 15:18 shadowzone Oh 15:18 shadowzone Lol 15:18 shadowzone I'll try it out in a bit 15:18 shadowzone right now I'm compiling Minetest 15:19 shadowzone I had to reload Linux Mint 17 15:25 shadowzone Zeno`: whatever you did really raised my FPS, nice job :) 15:27 Zeno` magic 15:28 shadowzone Lol 15:28 shadowzone I can pull 50 to 60 15:28 Zeno` gimme more donuts or I'll revert all the changes 15:29 Jordach u wot m8 15:29 * shadowzone hands Zeno` some donuts 15:29 Zeno` thanks :) 15:29 * Jordach force feeds Zeno` donuts 15:29 shadowzone Jordach: hmm? 15:29 Jordach u havin a gigglwe 15:30 shadowzone Jordach: okay....I don't know what you mean but I'll go with it 15:30 Amaz Zeno` But I gave you donuts!!! Just turn creative mode on! ;) 15:30 * Zeno` is rich in donuts 16:12 catninja OldCoder: https://social.umeahackerspace.se/attachment/27689 16:12 catninja I made a robot for moontest! 16:12 catninja or I tried 16:13 SergioAD_ Hello I almost finish the game 16:13 SergioAD_ here on Mexico are the 10:13 AM 16:15 * Jordach found something 16:16 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/5/53RHVuqhjgeT.png 16:19 SergioAD_ only I need use the carbone's hotbar skin BUT with the default 8 spaces on it 16:19 SergioAD_ how can I apply that chage? 16:20 Calinou Carbone's hotbar skin is made to strech indefinitely 16:20 Calinou so that when you use /hotbar N (N is a number), it doesn't look broken 16:21 ciwolsey hey 16:21 ciwolsey is there a way to reload mods without having to restart the game every time? 16:21 Jordach nope 16:21 ciwolsey ok thanks 16:22 Jordach (you'll get used to it in time) 16:22 Calinou the game starts very quickly 16:22 ciwolsey yupo its not much of a problem 16:23 SergioAD_ how can I apply it on a default mod? 16:23 SergioAD_ of the minetest game? 16:24 Calinou you'll need some additional code for that 16:24 Calinou look at init.lua of the default mod of Carbone game 16:24 Calinou or player.lua 16:24 SergioAD_ Ok 16:25 SergioAD_ after that my game will be completed 16:26 Jordach nvidia: y u anti alias my blender 16:28 Calinou anti-aliasing Blender looks cool 16:28 Calinou Jordach, I have a build of NeoTextureEdit I made, which fixes bugs 16:28 Calinou it quits properly and .tgr files open okay 16:29 Jordach mmmmmm 16:29 * Jordach likes eating savoury foods 16:31 Calinou https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/82342922/downloads/neotextureedit/NeoTextureEdit-0.6.5-devel.zip 16:32 Calinou extract, run .bat 16:32 Xack hi :) 16:32 Calinou hi Xack 16:32 Xack hi Calinou :) 16:32 Jordach wat 16:32 Jordach double click anywhere there are clouds 16:32 Xack :O 16:33 Jordach (eg, client, multiplayer and advanced) 16:33 Jordach easy crash 16:33 Amaz Sky in game? 16:33 PenguinDad Jordach: that's not a crash 16:33 Jordach Amaz, at main menu 16:33 Amaz Right. 16:34 Jordach it tries to act much like the server when not provided a gameid + name 16:34 Jordach attempts to create worldid world 16:35 Jordach !tell twoelk https://cdn.mediacru.sh/x/xZpaIWGu5wz2.png 16:35 MinetestBot Jordach: I'll pass that on when twoelk is around 16:36 PenguinDad looks like the letters are falling on you lol 16:39 Jordach PenguinDad, now fixing 16:39 Jordach there is only one of me, at the second 16:43 * Jordach is not abusive 16:43 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/G/GzyBHvIhvlRX.png 16:44 Jordach tl;dr it's cold in here and i need something to warm the room up 16:46 Jordach u wot m8 https://cdn.mediacru.sh/B/BIXxmy3UTByq.png 16:51 Jordach PenguinDad, https://cdn.mediacru.sh/5/54ncd1K8ppa4.png 16:52 ciwolsey is there a way to see recipes? 16:55 marktraceur ciwolsey: There's a mod that lets you build a computer with recipes... 16:55 marktraceur Or there was. 17:04 ciwolsey oh 17:08 * Jordach considers bringing it back 17:08 Jordach might finally make Sokomine happy 17:10 PenguinDad Jordach: much better now 17:11 DFeniks ciwolsey: you could also try unified_inventory mod it allows you to see recipes. unless you alredy use some mod that changes inventory 17:24 Krock hi 17:50 ciwolsey is it possible for blogs to have properties? 17:50 ciwolsey that other blocks can check? 17:50 ciwolsey blocks* 17:52 Krock blocks are 16*16*16 nodes. 17:52 Krock do you mean nodes? 17:52 ciwolsey yes 17:52 ciwolsey nodes 17:52 Calinou ciwolsey, yes, you can add metadata 17:52 Calinou see the carts mod for an example (booster rails) 17:53 ciwolsey ill just read api 17:53 Krock see default:chest, it has a formspe in the metadata 17:55 ciwolsey thanks 18:00 ciwolsey anyone happen to know of a quick way to share your screen with someone in linux? 18:01 Calinou *cough* not TeamViewer *cough* 18:01 Calinou VNC, but then you need to forward a port 18:01 Krock Btw, is GPL compatible with LGPL 2.1? 18:02 kaeza do you mean remote desktop, or simply "screenshot"? 18:02 Calinou SSH with X forwarding is heavy on bandwidth 18:02 Calinou Krock, #gnu is better suited for that question 18:31 catninja 17:12 < catninja> OldCoder: https://social.umeahackerspace.se/attachment/27689 18:31 catninja 17:12 < catninja> I made a robot for moontest! 18:31 catninja 17:12 < catninja> or I tried 18:31 catninja (if you missed it :D) 18:32 catninja rooboots 18:33 ciwolsey how can you run some basic setup once a node is put down? 18:33 ciwolsey i just want to initialise the meta data 18:33 kaeza use on_construct / after_place_node in the node def 18:33 ciwolsey ok 18:33 ciwolsey thanks 18:34 PilzAdam ciwolsey, if you depend on the meta being set you should use on_construct 18:34 PilzAdam since after_place_node is only called if a player places the node 18:35 Krock catninja, NET::ERR_CERT_AUTHORITY_INVALID 18:35 Krock That site can grief personal data 18:35 ciwolsey what do you mean by 'node def' ? 18:36 PilzAdam ciwolsey, nodedef refers to the node definition table you pass to register_node 18:36 ciwolsey oh 18:37 catninja Krock: the site uses cacert http://www.cacert.org/ which people that like open software should use too, but the major browsers does not care about such things 18:37 catninja that is what triggers the warning 18:38 Krock ah 18:39 ciwolsey https://gist.github.com/ciwolsey/e7785956f2823c301631 18:39 ciwolsey is it something like this? 18:39 kaeza "which people that like open software should use" 18:39 Krock ciwolsey, funtions start with (arg1, arg2,..) and end with "end" 18:39 ciwolsey ohh 18:40 Krock the brackets {} arenot needed in on_construct 18:40 catninja such english. but yeah it's for the greater good 18:40 kaeza so we should all use the same things, right? 18:40 kaeza yay for freedom 18:40 Krock ^ 18:40 ciwolsey like this? https://gist.github.com/ciwolsey/e7785956f2823c301631 18:41 ciwolsey minus the brace after the args 18:41 Krock https://gist.github.com/SmallJoker/1add962266225a5265d1 18:41 ciwolsey ;) thanks 18:41 catninja kaeza: yes and be cool and go to CCC and get people to sign your cryptokey 18:43 Krock ciwolsey, it's regular Lua, just extended with some special functions. Once you know the syntax, it's simple 18:43 ciwolsey yeah ive used lua before just forget stuff 18:44 ciwolsey ive spent 8 hours coding javascript today so its kind of hard not to write that at the moment xD 18:44 kaeza my cryptokey is signed by my cat; your argument is invalid 18:45 OldCoder catninja that looks very nice 18:46 Krock ciwolsey, that's not an excuse. It's easy to switch between C++, Lua and PHP :P 18:49 ciwolsey not when youre as old as me it isnt 18:49 ciwolsey php :( 18:49 kaeza ^ 18:49 ciwolsey looks like a cats been dancing on my $ key 18:49 harrison but at least two of {C++,Lua,PHP} are terrible languages 18:50 Calinou C++ and Lua? 18:50 Calinou 18:50 harrison also -- how many cats can dance on a single key? 18:50 kaeza srsly 18:50 ciwolsey why do people use lua so much ? 18:50 Krock Jast for my justification: I use PHP because it's supported on more hosts than any other dynamic programming language. 18:50 ciwolsey why not js? 18:50 Krock *just 18:50 Calinou Lua is more readable, easier to write than JavaScript, at least for me 18:50 kaeza ciwolsey, because Lua is perfect for embedding 18:50 Krock JS is bad. 18:50 Calinou and it's made to be embedded into games and such 18:50 ciwolsey whats bad about js? 18:50 Calinou as an additional scripting language 18:51 PenguinDad because node.js 18:51 Calinou also has very good performance thanks to LuaJIT 18:51 Calinou Krock, but all the good hosts support Python :p 18:51 ciwolsey but i highly doubt luas performance vs js 18:51 harrison one would not want to code a realtime raytracer in JS or Lua 18:51 Krock ciwolsey, #securityleaks #noscript ##fix_your_connection 18:51 harrison or C++ either 18:51 Krock Calinou, oke. I don't care about phyton anyway :P 18:52 harrison also this python -- it might eat that cat you were talking about 18:52 harrison the dancing cat 18:52 ciwolsey also dont see whats bad about node 18:52 harrison hey, btw, when is a drug like a snake coiled around an urn? 18:53 harrison when it is a vasoconstrictor! 18:53 harrison [rimshot] 18:53 kaeza [cough] 18:53 * Krock does not get english word-jokes 18:53 Calinou [rimshot] = sounds like a shotgun to me 18:53 Krock ^ 18:53 ciwolsey so how do you go about animating blocks? 18:54 ciwolsey is that a matter of registering many and having them replace themselves? 18:54 Krock you can use pngs like the torch... 18:54 kaeza yes, or use entities to fake nodes 18:54 Calinou animated textures are possible 18:54 kaeza depends on what do you mean by "animation" 18:54 Krock (not to confuse with GIF files= 18:54 harrison Calinou: shotgun ammunition is center fire 18:55 ciwolsey a node that changes appearance based on say.. time 18:55 harrison you are thinking of .22 rifle shells 18:55 kaeza ciwolsey, I mean, do you mean animating textures, or animating shape? 18:56 ciwolsey textures 18:56 ciwolsey im thinking of say... 18:56 Krock ciwolsey, I suggest you to look at the torch definition. https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/blob/master/mods/default/nodes.lua#L667 It uses such special textures 18:56 ciwolsey a burner 18:56 ciwolsey a cooker being animated 18:56 ciwolsey but it might also be based on state 18:56 ciwolsey so lets say some hot metal.. thats cooling 18:56 kaeza look at how torches are implemented, as Krock pointed 18:56 ciwolsey ok 18:56 Krock Yes, two states (on/off) are required, then you can animate both seperately 18:56 Calinou look at how the active furnace is done to 18:58 kaeza you have a sheet with all the animation frames in a single image, and tell the game how many frames there are, and how long should the animation be 18:58 Krock Yeah. the furnace might be a beter example because torchlike drawtype is a bt confusing 19:21 Calinou my VM successfully upgraded from Fedora 20 to Fedora 21 19:21 Calinou quite lengthy process, but works 19:24 Megaf_ Hi all 19:24 ElectronLibre Hello Megaf_. 19:24 Megaf_ Calinou: What's so special about upgrading from one version to other? 19:24 Calinou people say it breaks all the time 19:24 Calinou so I want to prove them wrong 19:24 Megaf_ It was a very simple thing back when I used Mandriva, and still simple in Debian 19:24 Megaf_ most of tha time... 19:25 Megaf_ Calinou: Fedora should work ok after upgrading 19:25 Megaf_ they usually care about that 19:26 Megaf_ And how did you upgrade? 19:26 exio4 Megaf_, he uses ubuntu, ubuntu wants to be the archlinux of the newcomer 19:26 exio4 where you upgrade and the system kills itself 19:26 Megaf_ Mandriva used to notify you about the possibility of upgrading and would assist you 19:27 Megaf_ heh 19:27 Megaf_ Arch Linux is a pain to keep it running stable 19:27 Megaf_ it has to be actively maintained 19:28 Calinou fedup 19:29 Calinou you have to install fedup, then do sudo fedup --network 21 --product=noproduct 19:29 Megaf_ !server THIS 19:29 MinetestBot Megaf_: THIS IS A TEST | mt.megaf.info | Clients: 9/10, 7/9 | Version: 0.4.10-dev / Pixel | Ping: 2ms 19:29 Calinou wait for download… reboot… select System Upgrade boot option, wait a bit… then your system is upgraded 19:29 Calinou requires 2 reboots, unlike just 1 for Ubuntu or Debian 19:29 exio4 I don't my system after upgrades 19:30 exio4 using sid, I do dist-upgrade every week 19:30 Megaf_ exio4: I do dist-upgrade every day on my Jessie 19:30 exio4 testing doesn't change much :P 19:30 exio4 sid is a pain though 19:30 Calinou sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade 19:30 Calinou this is enough, Megaf_ :P 19:31 exio4 dist-upgrade 19:31 exio4 oh, apt 19:31 Calinou full-upgrade in apt is like apt-get dist-upgrade 19:31 exio4 I still don't get used to it 19:31 Calinou I got used to it since it is available :P 19:32 exio4 I need more time for typing "apt" alone than "apt-get" 19:32 Megaf_ I didnt get used to apt 19:32 Megaf_ I rather use apt-get 19:32 exio4 \o/ Megaf_ 19:32 Megaf_ I dont even use aptitude... 19:32 Megaf_ apt-get is automatic, apt obligates me to think 19:32 Megaf_ I dont like thinking, lol 19:33 exio4 I haven't used aptitude since it tried to kill my system :P 19:33 exio4 I was using a fucked up debian with lots of repositories mixed, just sayin' I had like 25% of the system with ubuntu libraries 19:34 PenguinDad lol 19:34 exio4 ;_; I am not bored enough to write this boilerplate 19:34 Megaf_ exio4: I fixed all my problems using only stable main as repo 19:34 Megaf_ staying away of contrib and non-free 19:34 exio4 I am using debian stable as host 19:35 exio4 a really minimal setup 19:35 exio4 I run my main system inside a LXC though, debian sid 19:35 Megaf_ however, Im obligated to use contrib and non-free because GPUs... 19:35 Megaf_ (on my laptops and desktops) 19:35 exio4 I am using nouveau because I am too lazy :P 19:35 Calinou yay for not using contrib and non-free 19:35 exio4 I need blobs for the wifi though 19:36 Megaf_ Im using nouveau here too, and blob for wifi, its a b43 19:36 exio4 Calinou, has nouveau got perf improvements for my old GT610? 19:36 Megaf_ And Im using nouveau because nvidia driver wont work on 64 bit EFI... 19:36 Calinou probably slightly 19:36 Calinou but GT610 won't improve its performance itself :) 19:36 Calinou see, b43 is a blob 19:36 Calinou why would you have issues with “EFI” (you meant UEFI)? 19:37 Megaf_ maybe, but in my case is EFI 19:37 Megaf_ it's a Macbook Pro 19:37 exio4 this GT610 ran RE at 90FPS with mid settings 19:37 exio4 and MC with 70~FPS, and MT with 70~100, and ... 19:37 Calinou ah 19:37 exio4 right now, I can play RE, at 800x600 and lowest settings, and I barely get 30FPS in normal maps 19:38 Calinou thought it wasn't a Mac 19:38 exio4 and <10FPS 19:38 Calinou an Intel IGP does better than your GT610 then :P 19:38 exio4 in anything bigger than bath 19:38 Megaf_ if anyone want to see how people behaves join 19:38 Megaf_ !server THIS IS 19:38 MinetestBot Megaf_: THIS IS A TEST | mt.megaf.info | Clients: 9/10, 7/9 | Version: 0.4.10-dev / Pixel | Ping: 2ms 19:38 exio4 my GT610 is like old as hell 19:38 Megaf_ Its a mess ther 19:38 exio4 I am not going to replace my GPU, it'd be a waste of money unless I sell a kidney in the black market for paying one 19:38 Megaf_ but there are some cool creathoins tho 19:38 exio4 a decent gpu starts at 4000 ARS 19:39 Megaf_ exio4: I have a 320M 19:39 Megaf_ it was old/slow back when it was new 19:39 Megaf_ and still ok to me 19:39 exio4 my GT610 with nvidia blob is kinda ok for me too, based on the fact that the "most expensive resource-wise" game I ever played was L4D2 19:40 exio4 and just guessing, this FX never had windows running natively! 19:40 Aragas yea talk about replacing components 19:40 exio4 (only in a VM for devs reasons.. :P) 19:41 Aragas In Russia all this stuff has risen in price like for 25% 19:41 exio4 sounds like a normal day in argentina 19:41 Megaf_ sound like a good day in Brazil 19:41 Aragas because of афдд ща учсрфтпу 19:41 Aragas pardon 19:42 Aragas because of fall of exchange 19:42 exio4 well, do you have a black market of foreign currency? 19:42 Aragas if i call it correct 19:42 exio4 I don't think anyone that isn't in venezuela can beat argentina there :P 19:42 Aragas nah, i think, yes, but this is like the lasf hope 19:43 Aragas don't wanna do dat stuff, who knoes how it will work 19:43 Aragas if will 19:43 exio4 Aragas, can you search how much the "Chaser A31" is in your country atm? 19:43 exio4 it is a thermaltake case 19:44 Aragas +15$ for this month, wtf 19:44 exio4 I bought one recently; http://articulo.mercadolibre.com.ar/MLA-521508813-gabinete-thermaltake-chaser-a31-mid-tower-usb-30-ventana-_JM ; 1689 ARS 19:45 exio4 which is like 200 USD using official's exchange rate, the case is 80~USDin the US 19:45 Megaf_ http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTg1OTQ 19:45 Aragas 86 $ here 19:45 Megaf_ !title 19:45 MinetestBot Megaf_: [Phoronix] Hardkernel Launches $35 Development Board That Can Smash The RPi 19:45 Megaf_ That could be my next Minetest Server 19:45 exio4 sounds like cheap 19:46 Aragas VP300A1W2N correct? 19:46 Aragas was 73$ a month ago 19:47 Aragas i'm butthurting 19:47 exio4 13USD isn't that much >< 19:48 exio4 VP300A1W2N 19:48 exio4 yes 19:48 exio4 www.thermaltake.com/products-model.aspx?id=C_00001951 19:48 Aragas is a precedent 19:49 Yellowberry hey 19:49 Aragas like this randon 19:49 exio4 FK YEAH! 19:49 Aragas Intel Core i7-4790K 19:49 Aragas +66 $ 19:50 Aragas 388$ 19:50 Yellowberry if you go to http://zk12.mooo.com/ and try to log in, does it say xhr poll error? 19:50 exio4 +66USD for an i7 extreme edition sounds like 0.01% 19:50 Calinou an i7-4790K isn't Extreme Edition 19:50 Calinou X suffix is EE 19:50 exio4 oh 19:50 Calinou K = unlocke 19:50 exio4 I read it as X 19:50 exio4 I know, more like "locked down" 19:50 exio4 no PCI passthru 19:51 exio4 overclocking should be a must in all cpus 19:51 Krock wtf no! 19:51 PenguinDad Krock: why not? 19:52 Calinou exio4 for Intel CEO 19:52 Krock PenguinDad, because cpu not overclox 19:52 Aragas Can't even upgrade somenthin', don't wanna overpay 19:52 exio4 I am overpaying for everything imported 19:52 Aragas nah' im a student 19:52 Krock Getting an old office PC or somehardware from a friend is enough to run minetest. :D 19:52 Aragas You know 19:53 exio4 Aragas, so am I 19:53 exio4 I am 19:53 Megaf_ Yellowberry: yes 19:53 exio4 whatever 19:53 Yellowberry thanks Megaf_ 19:53 Yellowberry I think its my IRCd 19:54 * Krock keeps the crashed chome open to finish the download and hits [Ok, reload] after that 19:54 exio4 I am getting my last 2500 ARS of scholarship for the 20~ 19:55 exio4 20 dec = buying PSU :D 19:55 Aragas 2500 ars? 19:55 Aragas like 300 $? 19:55 exio4 argentine peso = ARS 19:55 exio4 Aragas, at official exchange rate, it is 300 ARS 19:56 exio4 in real tech terms, it is 120~ in US prices 19:56 exio4 s/300 ARS/300 USD/ 19:56 Aragas oh 19:56 exio4 we have import fees that are a bit... high 19:56 Aragas don't understood, is that a month apy? 19:57 Aragas pay 19:57 exio4 nope, it is 8600~ ARS per year for the first two years 19:57 exio4 I already got 6000~ ARS 19:58 Aragas Still more than i get 19:58 exio4 (I wasted 6k ARS on my ups, case and hdd) 19:58 exio4 teach is cheaper there though 19:58 exio4 tech* 19:58 Aragas 27$ per month 19:59 exio4 325 USD per year 19:59 Aragas Yep 20:03 exio4 Calinou, IRL without training, I tell you, I can't swim fast 20:04 Krock Calinou, a task for you: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=163974#p163974 20:04 Krock kill that spammer 20:04 Jordach exio4, i can swim 20:04 PenguinDad exio4: sam can survive swimming in lava for a short time... 20:04 exio4 lol PenguinDad 20:04 Jordach (and dive underwater for a moderately long time) 20:04 Aragas pfff 20:04 Calinou for infinitely long time if you use torches 20:05 Calinou :P 20:05 exio4 how many minutes Jordach 20:05 Aragas i drink lava every day 20:05 Jordach exio4, ~2 20:05 exio4 well, me too 20:05 Aragas you know, winter and stuff 20:05 exio4 when I am not fkd up with allergies :p 20:07 exio4 ~ there is no going back, what we used to be, there is no room of us, no place for me, never enough, never enough, oh, never enough, never enough, I gave it all ~ 20:07 ShadowBot exio4: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). 20:07 Jordach sod off ShadowBot 20:07 Krock ~ hi 20:07 ShadowBot Hello Krock! 20:07 Jordach nobody asked for your automated opinion 20:08 PenguinDad ~ what is this place ~ 20:08 ShadowBot PenguinDad: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). 20:08 PenguinDad :P 20:08 exio4 ;_; 20:09 exio4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MLU25MQU9w 20:09 exio4 !title 20:09 MinetestBot exio4: Tarja "Never Enough" Official Lyric Video - from "Colours In The Dark" - YouTube 20:10 Krock MinetestBot, fix your HTMLspecial chars 20:10 PenguinDad "Meow" 20:11 PenguinDad !cat 20:11 MinetestBot http://i.imgur.com/qNBpvF3.jpg 20:11 Jordach >MCPE for Windows Phone 20:11 Jordach as soon as i have no monies 20:30 kaeza you have a win phone? 20:32 Megaf_ I wish I could download hardware 20:33 Megaf_ ~ there is no going back, what we used to be, there is no room of us, no place for me, never enough, never enough, oh, never enough, never enough, I gave it all ~ 20:33 ShadowBot Megaf_: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). 20:33 Megaf ~ there is no going back, what we used to be, there is no room of us, no place for me, never enough, never enough, oh, never enough, never enough, I gave it all ~ 20:33 ShadowBot Megaf: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). 20:33 Megaf stupid bot 20:34 Megaf [20:34:05] * [Whois] Megaf is Megaf!~Megaf@unaffiliated/megaf (Megaf) 20:34 ElectronLibre Bots, computers, everything like that are stupids. They just obey the orders we gave them. 20:34 Megaf ElectronLibre: he is not even obeying me 20:35 Megaf ~hostmask add 20:35 ShadowBot Megaf: Error: That operation cannot be done in a channel. 20:35 ElectronLibre He obeys his creator, who seems having said that after ~ he must find a command name, and " " isn't a command name :/.. 20:35 n4x what command is it trying to do though 20:36 Megaf ~ there is no going back, what we used to be, there is no room of us, no place for me, never enough, never enough, oh, never enough, never enough, I gave it all ~ 20:36 ShadowBot Megaf: O.K. 20:36 Megaf Yay 20:36 Megaf I made it 20:36 Megaf ElectronLibre: you are right 20:36 n4x what did it do.. o.O 20:36 Megaf I have no idea 20:36 Megaf but it said ok 20:36 n4x nice... 20:36 Megaf ~op 20:36 ShadowBot Megaf: Error: You don't have the #minetest,op capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified. 20:36 n4x ~ping 20:36 ShadowBot pong 20:39 MinetestForFun Hi everybody, i 've a big problem with my server, i re-compiled it yseterday, and now i've this errors... my server doesn't boot now :/ 20:39 MinetestForFun http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/9466940/ 20:40 MinetestForFun can someone help me ? 20:40 Megaf MinetestForFun: disable the mod food 20:41 ElectronLibre There isn't only the food mod which make these errores apparently ._. 20:41 Megaf and if possible report this error to the author of the mod 20:41 MinetestForFun i've tried without the food mod, after that an another mod let down the server, after the disable of the second mod it's the same things.. 20:41 Megaf MinetestForFun: the warnings are normal, the were added to help fixing bugs 20:41 Megaf but they dont crash the server, are just warnings 20:41 Megaf food is crashing your server 20:42 ElectronLibre I tried to launch the server with the lastest sfan5's build, and the same mods/same subgame, it sends me the errors but the server starts. 20:42 MinetestForFun no megaf, you don't understand me 20:42 Megaf disable it, try again, and paste the output if doesnt work 20:42 MinetestForFun it's not only the food mod 20:42 ElectronLibre (Do what he does MinetestForFun he will understand with the second paste) 20:42 MinetestForFun when i disable the food mod, the unified_inventory mod crash my server, after the unified_inventory mod, it's an another mod, etc 20:43 Megaf MinetestForFun: are those mods updated? 20:43 MinetestForFun okok i paste the log after the food mdo disable 20:43 MinetestForFun all of my mods are up to date 20:43 Megaf and anyway, disable food, try again and paste the output 20:43 Megaf its the only way we can help 20:44 MinetestForFun http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/9467016/ 20:44 MinetestForFun (after the food mod disabled) 20:44 MinetestForFun the server doesn't boot 20:48 MinetestForFun any idea ? :) 20:48 Jordach MinetestForFun, the serverlist didn't respond to you 20:49 MinetestForFun but why ? before the recompilation, it respond me ... 20:49 Megaf MinetestForFun: did you change anything on minetest.conf? 20:49 Megaf like the master server address 20:49 Megaf and that shouldnt crash the server... 20:49 MinetestForFun i've changed nothing in the minetest.conf 20:50 MinetestForFun it's the same before the recompilation 20:50 MinetestForFun no, i changed nothing 20:50 MinetestForFun i can send you a pastebin of my minetest.Cfon if you want 20:50 Megaf MinetestForFun: please create an issue here describing as best as you can all you can https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues 20:51 Megaf I mean, with a title that explains the problem and on description that it was working and so on 20:51 MinetestForFun the mientest.conf : http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/9467143/ 20:52 MinetestForFun ok i will create an issue... 20:55 Megaf MinetestForFun: you can copy and paste there 20:55 Megaf write ``` in one line, hit enter 20:55 Megaf paste what you wish 20:55 Megaf and write ``` 20:56 Megaf under the paste 20:56 Megaf so like this 20:56 Megaf ``` 20:56 Megaf pasted stuff 20:56 Megaf ``` 20:56 Megaf MinetestForFun: got it? 20:56 ElectronLibre (I've seen what he needs to paste it's a least 150 lines) 21:02 ElectronLibre I need to know, could someone tell when was commited the code which warns you when you use global variables please? 21:20 MinetestForFun for the moment i do a rollback of the server 21:21 MinetestForFun we create a bracnh "unstable" for the issue wich is going to post in a issue on the minetest/issue (on github) 21:29 Yellowberry I am compiling InspIRCd 21:29 Yellowberry yay 21:38 MinetestForFun somebody can explain my why i've this message on boot of my server : 22:34:21: ERROR[main]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: Connection error: Connexion refusée 21:39 MinetestForFun Connexion refusée = connection refused 21:39 sfan5 hm 21:40 sfan5 maybe it's trying to connect to something 21:40 sfan5 servers.minetest.net possibly 21:40 sfan5 servers.minetest.net is fine 21:40 PilzAdam MinetestForFun, do you use the IRC mod? 21:41 ElectronLibre Yes he does ._. 21:41 MinetestForFun yes i use the irc mod 21:41 MinetestForFun you think it's an answer of this mod ? 21:41 PilzAdam try disabling it 21:44 MinetestForFun non it's not the irc mod, when disabled the same message is here 21:44 MinetestForFun no* 21:44 MinetestForFun http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/9467557/ 21:46 PilzAdam does it happen with all mods disabled? 21:47 MinetestForFun it's not my goal, but i try it 21:49 MinetestForFun it still the same thing without mods : http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/9467616/ 21:51 PilzAdam which Minetest version? 21:52 Jordach sfan5, /back 21:53 MinetestForFun i've tried with the "December 9, 2014" (https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/2f8fbdb9f52d2118108d69914207766e296d7d37) build and with the "Oct 18, 2014 "(https://github.com/minetest/minetest/tree/fe8ef1be59399a327d9df50a0ab823bb2731de79) build 21:55 MinetestForFun with this two build, it's the same thing 21:55 MinetestForFun before the update of my subgame with minetest_game this error wasn't here 21:57 PilzAdam what mods are in your subgame? 21:58 MinetestForFun https://github.com/Ombridride/minetest-minetestforfun-server/tree/master/minetestforfun_game 21:59 MinetestForFun my subgame is a merge of Carbone and minetest_game, it works well before the last update, we merged the latest updates of minetest_game with our carbone "modified" version 22:01 PilzAdam can you try starting your server with the minimal subgame? 22:07 Jordach lolwat 22:08 Jordach they put a fucking jet powered tank in TOCA Touring Cars (on console) 22:25 Inocudom This is what is outside my house right now: http://www.weather.com/travel/commuter-conditions/news/winter-storm-damon-latest-news 22:26 Inocudom Big, nasty storms and volcanic eruptions are exploding all over the planet right now. This is one deathly-serious December. 22:29 VanessaE zzzz 22:29 VanessaE no worse than any other year 22:29 Inocudom Those winds outside my house... How long-lived, how loud, how strong they are. They look a little like the following: http://youtu.be/LSUG8uhrFyE 22:30 VanessaE or did you forget about hurricane Katrina, the volcano in Iceland that stopped all air traffic for like 3 days, and the earthquake that caused the tsunami that destroyed Fukushima and decimated parts of Japan? 22:31 Inocudom And all those happened in recent times. Very nasty events those were too. 22:31 VanessaE dude, unless you've got an EF1 or larger tornado roaring past your house, I don't think you need to worry about it 22:31 VanessaE that video depicts some pretty weak winds 22:31 Inocudom There have been many, many earthquakes lately by the way. 22:31 VanessaE compared to what I grew up with in the US midwest 22:32 VanessaE so? 22:32 VanessaE earthquakes are part of tectonic activity 22:32 VanessaE nothing humans can do will change the frequency or intensity of earthquakes (though fracking will cause some local tremors in areas that are usually quiet) 22:33 Inocudom Fracking is a contributing factor. A big one too,. 22:33 VanessaE not all that big 22:34 VanessaE huge earthquakes have been and will keep happening with or without fracking 22:35 VanessaE you're literally panicking over nothing. 22:35 VanessaE this all reads like all those disaster predictions leading up to December, 2012. 22:35 VanessaE somehow, we all seem to still be here. 22:36 Inocudom There are high winds in Europe right now, and the Philipines suffered Typhoon Hagupit, probably the worst of the storms. Don't forget the east coast either. 22:36 Inocudom And, yes, the midwest still has hellish storms. 22:37 Inocudom Err, the west coast storm. That one has some fierce rain and winds. 22:37 VanessaE big deal. The US has records of severe hurricanes, category 5 as far back as 1935. 22:37 VanessaE (Labor Day Hurricane of 1935 to be exact) 22:38 VanessaE F5/EF5 tornado records go back to 1950 22:39 VanessaE officially that is 22:39 VanessaE unofficially, they go back to 1880 22:39 Inocudom But the weather is not the only concern. Society itself is crumbling as well, as I think we are all seeing. Just look at the players on most Minetest servers. 22:40 VanessaE earthquake records going back to 1900, how about an 8.8 on the Richter scale, in 1906 in Ecuador. 22:40 VanessaE players on most minetest servers are kids 22:40 VanessaE and they're the same mentality as they were when I was growing up 30 years ago. 22:41 VanessaE the only difference is now they have a way to communicate with lots of people at once, so you can actually *see* it 22:41 VanessaE (before, it was just a telephone or if they were lucky, some kind of physical bulletin board or club) 22:41 VanessaE society may be going down the shithole, but it isn't our kids that are at fault. 22:42 VanessaE it's certain members of the *adult* population who are responsible. 22:42 Inocudom Why would it be the kids? It is the adults that are responsible, but the kids learn from them, of course. 22:42 VanessaE you cannot hold a child to a higher standard than you are willing to live up to yourself (the understood you, not you personally Inocudom) 22:43 VanessaE why would it be? because you just pointed the finger at the kids. 22:43 VanessaE by way of pointing at "players on minetest servers" 22:43 VanessaE most of which are kids. 22:43 VanessaE (by and large, I'd say 75% of the players on these servers are under 18) 22:44 Inocudom And no adults are more guilty than the self-proclaimed gods and godesses of this world (the world leaders.) No man nor woman should ever proclaim such. 22:44 VanessaE at any rate, the world is not falling apart at the seams, so cool it :) 22:45 Inocudom Very true, VanessaE. That is why you must be very careful of what you expose kids to. Hate not the little ones. 22:45 VanessaE precisely so. 22:46 Inocudom Those who hate, harm, and kill children are the most wicked people of all. My hatred and anger burns against such monsters. 22:47 VanessaE indeed. 22:48 VanessaE idk why you suddenly shifted to that, though. 22:48 VanessaE from high winds that have you worried, to volcanoes to .... 22:48 VanessaE erm.. 22:48 Inocudom They literally are monsters too. No ifs, ands, or buts about it. 22:49 VanessaE dude, you're all over the map today 22:50 Inocudom I shift very easily. Speaking of tornadoes, way more of the planet is tornado country these days. 22:50 Inocudom Now, to prove that I can think, the news reactions to this stuff means either... 22:51 Inocudom A: Disasters really are increasing accross the planet. 22:52 Inocudom B: They want us to think that disasters are on the increase for the purposes of the powers that be. Me, I answer both A and B. 22:53 Inocudom Because when things get really, really bad, people are more willing to submit to their governments. They themselves state that the people will come to them for safety. 22:54 chrisf Inocudom: news is increasingly entertainment, and disaster-porn sells. 22:55 Inocudom Disasters and wars can be very useful to corporations and governments. Never forget that. I learned such stuff from a number of sources on the internet. 22:56 Inocudom Indeed, it is entertainment... And indoctrination. And that entertainment is getting more and more sick. 22:57 jalcine Fortunately, some of us know that and fight against it. 22:57 Inocudom http://youtu.be/wtnN5Tl5cqk?list=UUBVGZny2lpynNDQe-rdC1eA 22:58 Inocudom Guy's beliefs may not agree with you, both those are real shows, and the reactions are real. 22:58 Inocudom Welcome, jalcine. 22:59 Inocudom I, personally, am glad that the guy did not get eaten alive. Though some might say that he was eaten alive by Twitter. 23:01 Inocudom Yes, those winds are still outside my house. I hate the sound of that wind during the night. So irritating. 23:05 Inocudom Welcome, chrisf. I hope you are staying sane, as Alan Watt like to say to people. I am barely holding on to my sanity, as is obvious. 23:33 coagen VanessaE: hey, got a sec? 23:39 VanessaE hm? 23:40 coagen VanessaE: pm plz...