Time  Nick           Message
00:04 Niebieski      !seen zat
00:04 MinetestBot    Niebieski: zat was last seen at 2016-01-09 00:18:01 UTC on #minetest
00:17 maerwald       LOL KICKED BY CURSING WORDS
00:17 maerwald       ahahaha
00:19 jn__           words have feelings, don't curse the words :P
00:20 basil60        Hi double checked env_meta.txt - still can't login - serialization error. envargsend not found. The server is probably running a different version of minetest. Double check the env_meta.txt to ensure it only had 3 lines and no spaces. Ideas would be great pls?
00:31 basil60        I'll try again later - cheers
01:19 maerwald       where can I kill people?
01:22 kaadmy         maerwald: ?
01:22 kaadmy         you mean survival servers?
01:23 maerwald       I don't know, just want to kill something
01:23 kaadmy         heh
01:23 kaadmy         try programming
01:23 maerwald       I have
01:23 kaadmy         that'll get you in a killing mood :D
01:23 maerwald       I ended up in FP and hated everything else
01:23 maerwald       so that's why I want to kill
01:53 basil60        A serialization error occurred
01:53 basil60        EnvArgsEnd not found
01:53 basil60        The server is probably running a different version of Minetest
01:53 basil60        sorry - that didn't work
01:53 basil60        These are the 3 errors I get when I try to login
01:54 sofar          you may be combining incompatible server and client versions
01:55 basil60        sofar: no changes made. Worked till a Windows crash on my laptop this morning
01:56 basil60        sofar: fixed env_meta.txt
04:58 MinetestBot    02[git] 04MoNTE48 -> 03minetest/minetest: Update Android dependencies, -O3 optimization, remove old ARMv5 config 13096a01f https://git.io/v2bMc (152016-03-05T05:52:45+01:00)
04:59 sofar          basil60: don't do that
05:00 basil60        sofar: don't do what?
05:00 sofar          * Received a CTCP VERSION from basil60
05:00 basil60        sofar: sorry, just trying to see if you were online or off...just clicked on info
05:02 basil60        hi trying to resolve a server error that's preventing Minetest server from starting
05:06 basil60        I've checked env_meta.txt and restarted the server - but I still get -A serialization error occurred - EnvArgsEnd not found and The server is probably running a different version of Minetest
05:10 est31          is env_meta.txt empty?
05:11 est31          basil60, this sounds like you simply can remove env_meta.txt if its empty
05:13 basil60        est31:env_meta.txt is not empty - it must contain at least EnvArgsEnd
05:13 basil60        est31: which it does - I used the lines from the Wiki
05:13 est31          whats it content?
05:13 est31          its*
05:14 basil60        est31: game_time = 8953  time_of_day = 16397   EnvArgsEnd
05:14 basil60        est31: I note that it even when it fails to start the server, the first 2 values change
05:15 est31          basil60, what about removing env_meta.txt and then replacing the numbers with the backup?
05:15 basil60        est31: it worked this morning untl I had a laptop crash (Windows).
05:16 basil60        est31: I've replaced the contents (at the first attempt the file was empty),a nd restarted the servr
05:45 basil60        Anyone got any advice on getting server started again please?
05:47 sofar          step 1, backup all the files
05:48 sofar          step 2, remove all the *meta* files, start server, see if it works
05:48 sofar          maybe leave the seed in map_meta.txt
05:51 basil60        sofar: deleted env_meta.txt, restarted - same error
05:52 sofar          did you touch/edit map_meta.txt ?
05:52 basil60        sofar: no....was a bit iffy about deleteing it?
05:53 sofar          did you touch/edit any of the other files?
05:53 sofar          can you make a different new world?
05:53 basil60        sofar: no...as i said, it worked fine this morning.
05:54 basil60        sofar: that shouldn't be a problem, it's only really a sandbox at this point
05:54 sofar          try it
05:58 basil60        sofar: uploading now
06:15 basil60        sofar: new game, same error
06:15 sofar          what minetest_game are you using? and what minetest version?
06:15 sofar          OS? build?
06:17 basil60        sofar: carbone game; Minetest 0.4.13 on Linux (not sure of actual OS - could find it if it's really important)
06:17 sofar          yang2003: what?
06:17 yang2003       PM
06:17 sofar          just ask. if it's about minetest, ask in here
06:18 yang2003       nope
06:20 sofar          basil60: and the proper minetest_game?
06:23 basil60        sofar: proper name - as in carbome ng - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=9033
06:23 sofar          oh, you're using the carbone-ng subgame?
06:24 basil60        sofar: yes
06:25 sofar          not https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=12824 ?
06:26 basil60        sofar: doesn't open for me
06:27 sofar          https://github.com/Calinou/carbone-ng ?
06:28 basil60        sofar: is there a problem with carbone ng?
06:29 sofar          I'm not sure what your problem is at that point. Can you make a new minetest_game world? or is that broken too?
06:29 sofar          and you don't know what linux OS you use? that's... interesting :)
06:30 basil60        sofar: I use a hosted service - I don't need to access the dashboard often
06:31 sofar          oh, you're actually adminstrating a server remotely
06:31 sofar          ok, that explains the issues
06:31 basil60        sofar: correct
06:31 sofar          now I'm starting to understand your viewpoint a bit better :)
06:31 basil60        sofar: I'm still a noob...
06:34 sofar          basil60: pm?
06:34 basil60        sofar: sure
06:34 sofar          did you see my pms?
06:34 basil60        sofar: no
06:35 sofar          do you have tabs in your chat client?
09:46 MinetestBot    02[git] 04kilbith -> 03minetest/minetest: Update settings tab + some misc. clean-up 13335ad70 https://git.io/v2bNu (152016-03-05T10:41:51+01:00)
10:11 numZero        Why do mobs (animals_modpack) don't take damage from falling/lava/etc.?
10:58 Krock          it's a feature, not a bug.
12:28 kaeza          mornings
12:29 Krock          afternoons
12:29 yang2003       night
12:36 srifqi         good night, folks
13:11 yang2003       wb
14:24 huang2003      hi all
15:13 MinetestBot    02[git] 04srifqi -> 03minetest/minetest: Add forgotten valleys mapgen in mapgen name 1375db054 https://git.io/v2NmP (152016-03-05T16:06:27+01:00)
15:36 * est31        is #4294967295 best and hopes for an overflow
15:37 Krock          ^^
19:46 Fixer          protector hell! https://i.imgur.com/PpcA2Kq.jpg
19:48 ElectronLibre  That's a lot of protectors
19:49 ElectronLibre  Did some mod generate that or has someone actually spent time to install them?
19:52 Fixer          cheaters installed them
20:11 Krock          I'm so glad that I was able to solve the os.date("%<invalid specifier here>") in luaJIT :)
20:37 CWz            i wonder how they did it
21:49 a_e            Hello! I was just trying to download the minetest tutorial. But it has disappeared from the hoster. Would anyone know a mirror location?
21:51 Dragonop       from where are you trying to download it?
21:51 sfan5          there's this one https://forum.minetest.net/download/file.php?id=1995
21:51 sfan5          but it seems older
21:51 sfan5          (linked in the german forum thread)
21:52 Out`Of`Control Fixer:  haha mapgen create it?
21:52 a_e            Okay, thanks, I will give it a try. Older is better than nothing!
21:55 Dragonop       a_e, https://forum.minetest.net/download/file.php?mode=view&id=5048
21:55 Dragonop       that's the link to the "developer version" of tutorial
21:56 a_e            But the text recommends against it. The older one is version 1.8.0, maybe that would be better.
21:56 a_e            I can try both, thanks for the quick help!
21:57 Fixer          Out`Of`Control, hackers
22:00 kaeza          it would be nice to know names and/or IPs
22:01 Out`Of`Control there is one hacker on my server, we made a deal so hes good for now
22:02 Dragonop       a_e, it says that the "development version
22:02 Dragonop       "* is for minetest-dev
22:02 Dragonop       so you should be fine
22:05 a_e            I started the 1.8.0; looks like fun. Thanks for all!
22:38 lambda-11235   I accidently placed to much tnt in my singleplayer world, and now it crashes every time I load it and the tnt goes off.
22:39 lambda-11235   How do I disable tnt?
22:40 Calinou        lambda-11235, enable_tnt = false in minetest.conf
22:43 lambda-11235   Calinou: Thanks.
23:02 lambda-11235   I was trying to make a hole with tnt so deep that sunlight won't hit the bottom, but no matter deep I go the sunlight doesn't fade.
23:02 lambda-11235   I doesn't even work with single block holes.
23:03 sofar          yup
23:06 afflatus       That is correct lambda-11235
23:06 afflatus       sort of ...
23:07 lambda-11235   Did I set something wrong? I thought I remembered digging straight down and it getting darker.