Time  Nick          Message
00:59 Xue1          hi
01:01 Xue           hi
01:09 rubenwardy    I now have GNU/Linux installed on my UEFI laptop, and I didn't break Windows 10!
01:12 Xue           world #minetest-Xue admin Xue
01:13 Xue           irc minetest xue
01:15 Xue           Worlds de Xue Agree Netie Minetest 0.4.14 de Server
01:16 Xue           amigo de world #minetest-Xue
01:18 * Xue         amigo world de server de xue agree netie minetest 0.4.14
01:19 Hirato        rubenwardy: congrats, which bootloader did you use? :3
01:19 rubenwardy    GRUB-uefi
01:19 Hirato        heh
01:20 KaadmY        Xue: I think this is an english-only channel
01:20 Hirato        I couldn't get grub uefi to boot into anything :<
01:20 KaadmY        dunno though
01:20 Hirato        so I ended up using systemd-boot
01:20 rubenwardy    The entry for Windows is "Windows Boot Manager". I wonder if it is possible to make GRUB show it as "Windoze"
01:20 rubenwardy    Installing it wasn't as bad as I thought it would be, Hirato.
01:20 Hirato        likely just needs a grub.conf edit
01:20 Xue           mods agree rules de world https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=12441
01:21 Hirato        rubenwardy: probably on most distros, but then I use arch :p
01:21 rubenwardy    Xubuntu 16.04
01:22 Xue           screenshot agree rules go https://forum.minetest.net/download/file.php?id=5001
01:22 rubenwardy    It was as simple as: 1. Disable Fast Startup in Windows 10  2. Download 64bit 16.04 iso and burn  3. In UEFI menu, disable Fast Boot  4. Restart and load disk, check that it's loading in UEFI mode, and install
01:23 Hirato        wasn't for me, becausewell, arch :p
01:23 Hirato        you need to run grub-install yourself (that worked), use grub-mkconfig yourself (I guess I messed up here?)
01:23 Hirato        and so on
01:23 rubenwardy    Heh. Maybe one day I'll feel the need to customise my OS enough
01:23 rubenwardy    to use Arch
01:23 * Xue         xfce mouse and ubuntu
01:24 Hirato        I ended up using th efibootmgr thing to add my linux boot into the BIOs itself
01:24 Hirato        and I had a systemd-boot set up to just boot into Windows
01:24 Hirato        lol
01:25 Hirato        stupid windows
01:25 Xue           home xfce mouse http://www.xfce.org/
01:26 rubenwardy    I don't see how people can like windows, I've had so many bad experiences
01:26 Hirato        I just keep it around for games
01:26 rubenwardy    same
01:26 Hirato        particularly ones that don't work well in wine
01:26 Hirato        it's a lot better these days though
01:26 Hirato        but it has a lot of extra warts too
01:26 Hirato        like the forced automatic updates
01:27 Hirato        that start at the worst times of the day and make internet browsing worse than dialup
01:28 Xue           kart xfce mouse supertuxkart http://forum.freegamedev.net/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=4923
01:29 Xue           main supertuxkart download http://supertuxkart.sourceforge.net/
01:31 * Hirato      install KDE on Xue's system
01:31 Xue           hirato download supertuxkart
01:32 Hirato        400MB download.... I guess?
01:34 Xue           amigo addons kart xfce mouse supertuxkart http://stkaddons.net/karts/xfce-mouse
01:36 Xue           stk supertuxkart 0.9 you tube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FEwDH7XU9Q
01:36 KaadmY        ...
01:37 Xue           y stk de supertuxkart 09.1 you tube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKD3aWJDg3M
01:39 Xue           stk de supertuxkart donate tracks 2 http://supertuxkart.sourceforge.net/donate.php
01:46 Xue           de minetest server erorr main server de minetest ports not found https://servers.minetest.net/
01:47 Xue           Minetest Time Server ports ERROR[CurlFetchThread]: servers.minetest.net/announce not found (Timeout was reached) (response code 100)
01:52 Xue           server de minetest de capture the flag world win colos 18:00
01:53 Xue           capture the flag home https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=13157
01:55 Xue           world server names vardash creative server shout vardash https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=13531
01:58 Xue           amigo shout me vardash
02:01 Xue           hi colos
02:01 colos         hello Xue
02:02 Xue           colos irc de minetest
02:03 Xue           colos anubis games minetest server vardash creative
02:03 colos         yes
02:04 Xue           login games resga y colos
02:06 colos         amigo de 5 noviembre de updata de minetest 0.4.15
02:07 Xue           hoy mayo
02:08 Xue           player join de world server de red cat creative
02:09 Xue           sailr irc minetest
02:11 colos         amigo mañana de sab de los player join de minetest server vardash creative de password agree rules
02:14 colos         mañana join stormchaser30000 y VanessaE games world de minetest de server vardash creative server
02:14 colos         sailr irc minetest
02:14 KaadmY        not two spanish speakers ;)
02:19 MinetestBot   02[git] 04Thomas--S -> 03minetest/minetest_game: Vessels: Smaller/improved textures, remove duplicated 'inv' textures 13b9422ed https://git.io/vrgz9 (152016-05-21T03:03:03+01:00)
02:19 MinetestBot   02[git] 04red-001 -> 03minetest/minetest_game: Creative: Reset 'start_i' to 1 when the inventory filter is changed 13b1e0864 https://git.io/vrgzH (152016-05-21T03:02:10+01:00)
02:19 MinetestBot   02[git] 04paramat -> 03minetest/minetest_game: Default: Remove unnecessary infotexts for chests and signs 1390f24e3 https://git.io/vrgzQ (152016-05-21T03:01:10+01:00)
02:46 Xue           rubenwardy y VanessaE go games minetest de server vardash creative server de shout vardash
02:46 rubenwardy    ...no
02:56 DI3HARD139    wait what??
04:46 lemon         hello
04:47 lemon         http://neboard.me/media/images/1463798850863.png
05:10 sofar         !mod sedimentology
05:10 MinetestBot   sofar: Sedimentology [sedimentology-mt] by sofar - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=11028
11:32 hisforever    I downloaded minetest 4.12 will dreambuilders work?
12:13 srifqi        https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=218199#p218199 , spam?
12:18 Krock         srifqi, it WAS spam
12:18 srifqi        was?
12:18 srifqi        wow, that's fast
12:20 Fixer         everamzah: you here?
12:40 srifqi        Seems like this thread (https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=11555) no longer work because imgrush.com has down.
12:47 Krock         RIP yet another dead server
13:16 everamzah     Fixer: sometimes
13:23 awesomess3    if I upgrade from 0.4.13 to 0.4.14 can I use my same World?
13:27 STHGOM        yes
13:27 STHGOM        if
13:27 STHGOM        are you using windows?
13:27 awesomess3    linux
13:27 STHGOM        ok, they will work
13:28 STHGOM        they work on windows too, but you dont want to delete the old version, as the world files are saved there somtimes
13:29 STHGOM        in other words, the world files work fine, as long as you dont delete them in the updating process
13:30 STHGOM        sorry if im stating the obvious
13:32 awesomess3    "mushroom spores were removed" !!! nooooo
13:44 Fixer         everamzah: have you seen server stall problems?
13:45 Fixer         awesomess3: problem? %)
13:45 awesomess3    Fixer: nah. I'm happy :D
13:46 everamzah     Fixer: not that i'm aware of
13:47 Fixer         everamzah: someone said Amhi was having some issues like that (when server goes into coma)
13:48 Fixer         awesomess3: mushrooms will spread in shadowed areas
13:48 everamzah     i rarely log onto it, but i do notice lag sometimes.  i assumed it was some mod or the server host.
13:49 everamzah     DI3HARD139 might know better
15:14 Xue           hi all
15:14 Xue           hoy sab
15:17 Xue           amigo updata de minetest 0.4.15-dev changelog http://dev.minetest.net/Changelog#0.4.13_.E2.86.92_0.4.14
15:23 fkeloks       hi
15:24 fkeloks       Lua Minetest, it is possible to execute a command in the code? (For example, tell her / say)
15:25 Xue           amigo LazyJ y Anubis lua error minetest server
15:26 Xue           command minetestserver
15:27 fkeloks       ?? Not understood
15:27 red-001       fkeloks: what do you mean?
15:28 Xue           minetest server list http://minetest.net/servers
15:29 fkeloks       Basically, for example, instead of saying "minetest.chat_send_all" I wish I could use my own commands like "/ sayall". It's possible ?
15:29 red-001       yes
15:29 red-001       minetest.register_chatcommand
15:29 red-001       http://dev.minetest.net/minetest.register_chatcommand
15:30 fkeloks       Yes it but I know how to use these commands directly in the code of the game.
15:31 Xue           dev minetest 0.4.14-dev updata
15:32 H-H-H         you register your own command and then in game use your command eg /say frind hello
15:33 Xue           you own minetest server command or minetest you server not found
15:34 fkeloks       Raaaaa ... That I know! I'm not a beast :) I'm talking about the code of the game. For example, I would like to code "minetest.sayall" instead of "minetest.send.all".
15:36 nore          fkeloks: you can't do that
15:36 Xue           0 player server minetest command
15:36 fkeloks       OK, too bad
15:37 H-H-H         im sure you can lol just change the minetest.send.all to minetest.sayall and all references to it in the game/engine
15:38 fkeloks       Yes but it is not my purpose either :) Thanks anyway
15:39 Xue           minetest you server command world names
15:39 fkeloks       What is the lua method to change the time, the weather?
15:40 H-H-H         look in the source, sorry i dont know of the top of my head
15:40 fkeloks       :)
15:41 fkeloks       The dev wiki is frankly not clear, in addition to not even be in my language: D
15:41 H-H-H         if you figure out how to do temperature tho lol ide be interested to know
15:42 H-H-H         lol the wiki is a lot better than most ive seen lol coders usually hate writting docs
15:42 Xue           time out server minetest command
15:43 awesomess3    fkeloks: /time 5500
15:43 fkeloks       I speak of the lua code of the game ... The commands directly into the game I know the ...
15:43 H-H-H         thts the ingame command he is looking for the lua code that does that
15:43 fkeloks       In my function lua I will not tell him / time 5500 ...
15:45 fkeloks       What time is it for you ?
15:46 Xue           lua mods minetest error main mods 0.4.14-dev not found
15:46 H-H-H         16:46
15:46 awesomess3    15:46
15:47 Xue           15:51
15:47 fkeloks       Where are you from ?
15:47 H-H-H         me im in uk
15:48 fkeloks       I am french :)
15:48 Xue           minetest 0.4.14-dev?
15:51 Krock         Xue, what's your problem?
15:51 VanessaE      who is it that maintains servers.minetest.net?
15:51 Xue           Krock server minetest
15:52 VanessaE      (besides, ShadowNinja that is, since he's never around)
15:52 Krock         VanessaE, maybe sfan5, not sure.
15:53 Xue           world minetest server vardash creative servers
15:53 sfan5         VanessaE: yes, me
15:54 VanessaE      sfan5: can you check the server logs for connection attempts from daconcepts.com (or digitalaudioconcepts.com)?  I'm getting connection errors from my server instances
15:54 VanessaE      2016-05-21 01:56:48: ERROR[CurlFetch]: servers.minetest.net/announce not found (Couldn't connect to server) (response code 0)
15:55 Krock         I doubt you will find anything. error code 0 happens when the connection is broken
15:55 sfan5         198.27.68.162 - - [21/May/2016:15:50:36 +0000] "POST /announce HTTP/1.1" 202 61 "-" "Minetest/0.4.14-dev-fb31bd3 (Linux/3.16.0-4-amd64 x86_64)" "-"
15:55 Krock         nvm
15:56 sfan5         maybe your ipv6 is broken
15:56 sfan5         cuz i didn't find any requests over v6
15:56 VanessaE      I'm not using ipv6
15:56 VanessaE      however, the server's ip6 is 2607:5300:60:1da2::/64
15:59 Xue           minetest server /annunce command error server minetest
15:59 VanessaE      Xue: please stop with the gibberish.
16:00 Xue           VanessaE stop server minetest
16:00 VanessaE      sfan5: I'm getting pretty rusty.  where do I start looking?
16:00 VanessaE      ;op
16:00 * VanessaE    pokes ChanServ
16:00 sfan5         idk
16:00 CWz           ChanServ doesn't do that here
16:00 VanessaE      hm, odd.  thought it dod
16:00 * VanessaE    shrugs
16:01 sfan5         MinetestBot has !op though
16:02 VanessaE      sfan5: one thing of note: the machine was rebooted a few days ago.  that's when the issue started.
16:03 sfan5         does curl servers.minetest.net work?
16:03 Xue           minetest mods news
16:03 VanessaE      it appears to.  http://pastebin.com/6dHU8jJ0
16:03 VanessaE      !op
16:03 Xue           minetest mods abriglass
16:03 VanessaE      G*d damn it
16:03 CWz           i think you need to login to it first
16:04 VanessaE      sfan5: it appears to.  http://pastebin.com/6dHU8jJ0
16:04 sfan5         hm
16:04 awesomess3    VanessaE: but the server test minetest mod
16:04 sfan5         then there's no reason why it should work in minetest
16:05 tpe           That's the best to-the-point kick message I've seen in a while.
16:09 VanessaE      I'll try recompiling the server.
16:11 awesomess3    have you guys tried playing the minetest CTF server? is it fun?
16:13 VanessaE      sfan5: any difference?
16:14 VanessaE      I don't see them in the public list, but it's not throwing the error in my logs anymore
16:28 sfan5         VanessaE: seems to be working
16:28 sfan5         2607:5300:60:1da2:: - - [21/May/2016:16:27:52 +0000] "POST /announce HTTP/1.1" 202 61 "-" "Minetest/0
16:28 sfan5         .4.14-dev-7a828de (Linux/3.16.0-4-amd64 x86_64)" "-
16:32 VanessaE      doesn't seem to be echoing the announce to servers.minetest.net
16:44 IhrFussel     The register_on_prejoin() function should have a flag that stores whether a password was provided or not... "Empty passwords are disallowed" is just NOT good... many players don't understand that they need to enter any password on their first login to register an account
16:46 IhrFussel     It should be up to the server owner which message is shown to players that provide no password IMO
16:48 IhrFussel     Or the error should say something like "The server does not allow guest access" or somewhat
17:01 VanessaE      ah HAH!  sfan5 now they are showing up, but as their ip6 address of all weird things
17:01 VanessaE      [2607:5300:60:1da2::]:30004	0/50   0/0	0.4.14-dev, realtest, v6    et al.
17:04 VanessaE      in-client, the same IP shows up as well.  NOT my domain name.
17:06 VanessaE      I seem to be lacking a reverse dns for the ipv6 address.  odd.
18:19 VanessaE      sfan5: I'm getting really REALLY confused.
18:20 sfan5         whats wrong
18:20 VanessaE      why are my servers showing up with only an ipv6 address - and an incomplete one at that - in the server list?
18:20 ElectronLibre As far as I can tell VanessaE that IP address up there is correct
18:20 VanessaE      [2607:5300:60:1da2::]:30001  et al.
18:20 ElectronLibre ^ That's correct, the brackets just show that it's IPv6
18:20 sfan5         that's a correct ipv6 address
18:20 VanessaE      I know what the brackets are for, but the address is wrong.
18:20 VanessaE      it should be ::1 if anything
18:20 sfan5         why
18:21 VanessaE      but my point is, why is my domain name not showing up?
18:21 sfan5         <VanessaE> why are my servers showing up with only an ipv6 address
18:21 sfan5         maybe they are not announcing with the domain name?
18:21 VanessaE      you mean the server_address line?
18:21 sfan5         yes
18:21 VanessaE      when I put that in, my servers are excluded from the server list entirely.
18:22 VanessaE      are you performing a [reverse] lookup against the domain or IP?
18:22 ElectronLibre VanessaE: ::1 is 127.0.0.1, it's loopback
18:22 sfan5         no idea
18:22 VanessaE      ElectronLibre: I was referring to just the end part of the address, as in 2607:5300:60:1da2::1
18:22 ElectronLibre Unless you mean the end of the address in which case you could be right, I'm not very experienced with IPv6
18:23 ElectronLibre OK you beat me at typing
18:23 VanessaE      sfan5: ok.  watch:
18:23 sfan5         VanessaE: there's this check but i have it disabled https://github.com/minetest/master-server/blob/master/server.py#L242-L247
18:23 VanessaE      watch your logs for an announce
18:23 VanessaE      this is with server_address = daconcepts.com
18:24 sfan5         2607:5300:60:1da2:: - - [21/May/2016:18:24:05 +0000] "POST /announce HTTP/1.1" 202 61 "-" "Minetest/0.4.14-dev-fb31bd3 (Linux/3.16.0-4-amd64 x86_64)" "-"
18:24 sfan5         this one?
18:24 VanessaE      if that's the latest one, yeah
18:24 sfan5         yes it is
18:25 sfan5         in any case your server is using 2607:5300:60:1da2:: (without an 1!) as ip
18:26 VanessaE      I haven't the foggiest idea how to change that
18:26 VanessaE      I tried adding bind_address alongside server_address, but as long as the latter is provided at all, my servers are being excluded from the list
18:26 VanessaE      (where bind_address was my server's ipv4)
18:26 sfan5         that doesnt seem right
18:27 sfan5         i disabled the check for domain vs server ip
18:27 VanessaE      you better re-check :)
18:27 sfan5         if checkAddress and False:
18:28 Calinou       camelCase in Python? :s
18:29 VanessaE      there, they've all been restarted with  "server_address = daconcepts.com"  in their configs, the way it was before.
18:32 VanessaE      and again, they're missing from the server list.
18:32 sfan5         let me set up a second serverlist instance with debugging on
18:34 VanessaE      ok.
18:35 sfan5         VanessaE: serverlist_url = servers.minetest.net:8880
18:36 VanessaE      ok.
18:36 VanessaE      restarting (one server instance) with that change
18:36 VanessaE      2016-05-21 14:36:06: ERROR[CurlFetch]: servers.minetest.net/announce not found (HTTP response code said error) (response code 500)
18:36 sfan5         wat
18:36 sfan5         no request showed up
18:36 VanessaE      wait, ignore that.
18:36 VanessaE      there's the real one, 2016-05-21 14:36:37: ERROR[CurlFetch]: servers.minetest.net:8880/announce not found (Couldn't connect to server) (response code 0)
18:37 sfan5         damn ipv6
18:37 sfan5         sec
18:37 VanessaE      (the other was outdated spew)
18:38 sfan5         try now
18:38 VanessaE      trying...
18:38 sfan5         nice so wheres the logging
18:39 VanessaE      2016-05-21 14:38:58: ACTION[Server]: Announcing to servers.minetest.net:8880
18:39 sfan5         ah
18:39 sfan5         Server daconcepts.com:30006 has no ping.
18:39 sfan5         which means that it found that it was not up
18:40 VanessaE      when last I checked, ping didn't respect port numbers ;)
18:41 sfan5         restart minetestserver please
18:41 VanessaE      restarting...
18:41 Krock         VanessaE, you restarted davisonio but not the minetestserver. try again
18:41 VanessaE      (my keepalive script has a 30-second delay)
18:41 VanessaE      up.
18:42 sfan5         ah yes
18:42 sfan5         so it resolves to the ipv6 address 2607:5300:60:1da2::1
18:42 sfan5         it tries that and it's not up
18:42 VanessaE      I hate ipv6
18:43 sfan5         (sfan5@kitsune) ~/mtstuff % ./checkmt6.py 2607:5300:60:1da2::1 30006
18:43 sfan5         2607:5300:60:1da2::1 seems to be down
18:43 sfan5         (sfan5@kitsune) ~/mtstuff % ./checkmt6.py 2607:5300:60:1da2:: 30006
18:43 sfan5         2607:5300:60:1da2:: is up (85.8ms)
18:43 VanessaE      I don't know what moron invented it, but he should be shot dead.
18:43 Krock         rekt
18:43 sfan5         !kick ShadowBot
18:43 VanessaE      lol
18:43 sfan5         ShadowNinja: fix your fucking bot thanks
18:43 sfan5         (sfan5@kitsune) ~/mtstuff % ./checkmt6.py 2607:5300:60:1da2::1 30006
18:43 sfan5         2607:5300:60:1da2::1 seems to be down
18:43 sfan5         (sfan5@kitsune) ~/mtstuff % ./checkmt6.py 2607:5300:60:1da2:: 30006
18:43 sfan5         2607:5300:60:1da2:: is up (85.8ms)
18:43 sfan5         in any case you just need to fix the ipv6 address
18:44 CWz           aparent aparantly players can take item from furnace from any distance
18:44 VanessaE      I don't even know HOW it got the address it has
18:44 CWz           even while dead
18:45 sfan5         ip a d 2607:5300:60:1da2::/64 dev <interface>
18:45 VanessaE      iface eth0 inet6 static
18:45 VanessaE      address 2607:5300:60:1Da2::
18:45 VanessaE      ...
18:45 sfan5         ip a a 2607:5300:60:1da2::1/64 scope global dev <interface>
18:45 VanessaE      post-up /sbin/ip -6 addr add 2607:5300:60:1Da2::1/64 dev eth0
18:45 sfan5         might do it
18:46 VanessaE      worked when pasted to the console, but somehow that didn't actually work when the machine was restarted.
18:46 VanessaE      ipv6 is the biggest clusterfuck to hit the internet since the first ads on websites.
18:46 VanessaE      I fucking HATE HATE HATE HATE IT
18:46 VanessaE      FEJKHF@$(YTR*($@&!YF$*@)FY@
18:47 sfan5         ipv6 is actually pretty nice
18:47 sfan5         configuration just sucks
18:48 VanessaE      ipv6 sucks. :)
18:48 VanessaE      bingo
18:49 * CWz         puts away his tranquillizer gun
18:49 VanessaE      after running that /sbin/ip command and restarting them, all servers are showing up in the list...with their domains.
19:01 VanessaE      sfan5: thanks for the help.  you might want to consider making your end a little less..picky :)
19:03 sfan5         VanessaE: that's not being picky
19:03 sfan5         if the server is not up on <stuff>:: then it's not up
19:03 sfan5         the ip is just plain wrong
19:04 VanessaE      well I've corrected that, but why wasn't it just using the domain I pointed to?
19:04 sfan5         it was
19:04 sfan5         your domain was point to ::1
19:04 VanessaE      yes.
19:05 VanessaE      and it points to 198.27.68.162
19:05 sfan5         it only tests the preferred ip
19:05 sfan5         which is ipv6
19:05 VanessaE      I see.
20:12 Milan1        hi there, there was a mod which provides granting interact by typing a specific word (not a command)..someone know its name?
20:30 Milan1        got it
20:39 Megaf         Hi people
20:39 Megaf         Hi cats
20:39 Megaf         Hi dogs
20:39 Megaf         Hi cute bunnies
20:51 ElectronLibre Megaf: I'm none of those, but I do not blame you for forgetting me.
20:52 Megaf         Oh, I'm sorry!
20:52 Megaf         Hi electrons!
20:52 Megaf         ElectronLibre, ^
20:52 ElectronLibre Hello Megaf
21:36 Milan1        can i hide a command from /help?
21:57 Markow        Can feature requests be made on this channel?
22:00 Calinou       Markow: if you add $0.50 to the tipjar, sure :D
22:00 Calinou       [_] <- tipjar
22:00 Markow        "clink"
22:00 Markow        lol
22:01 Markow        I just compiled and played Minetest 0.4.14-dev-88acda0 (Linux)
22:02 Markow        Would  be great if the Right-Mouse key could be changeable
22:02 Markow        Changeable to "control", to place blocks faster
22:03 Markow        I think it's a fixed 'key'
22:03 Markow        Unless it could be done in the config file?
22:04 Markow        Also, is there a creative server run by the Minetest Devs?
22:06 rubenwardy    The core devs are just a random group of people which are knowledgeable and given elevated contribution rights
22:06 rubenwardy    ie: the right to vote on whether to accept a change request
22:06 rubenwardy    there are no official servers, as such
22:07 Markow        rubenwardy: Thanks
22:07 FreeFull      Markow: Being able to use a keyboard key instead of right-clicking would be super handy for people using touchpads
22:08 Calinou       also playing Minetest using only keyboard
22:08 Calinou       what if you travel back in time to 1993… most people didn't have a mouse :D
22:08 Calinou       but no PC would be able to run Minetest :( and Windows versions wouldn't be compatible
22:08 Markow        FreeFull / Calinou : True
22:09 Markow        I think someone once mentioned VanessaE has a good Creative server?
22:10 FreeFull      Calinou: Eh, I think finding a 3 button mouse (3 buttons, no scrollwheel) wouldn't have been that hard in 1993
22:11 FreeFull      Calinou: And if you had an Amiga computer you probably had a mouse too
22:12 Markow        I'm using a two-button mouse on my desktop here ;)
22:14 Markow        I have to build a newer desktop. For now, this will do.
22:23 rubenwardy    Calinou, FreeFull, Markow: It would be nice to be able to bind actions easily to mouse or keyboard. So you could make dig and place keys, or right click to open the inventory
22:28 FreeFull      Agreed
22:31 Markow        rubenwardy: Yes, agreed
22:32 Markow        I'm pissed at Nvidia. Their latest driver (from Nov 2015) doesn't compile with my kernel 4.6. What else is new? So I must stick with my integrated GPU. ;)
22:35 Calinou       Markow: pretty sure there's a newer driver…?
22:35 Calinou       you could always use Nouveau, it can perform better than Intel in some cases
22:36 Markow        Calinou: There is no newer driver on the Nvidia website, for sure. Hmm...I want to avoid Nouveau, lol.
22:38 Calinou       why?
22:39 Calinou       you could ask in #nouveau if your card is a good bet for it
22:41 Markow        Usually the proprietary Nvidia driver works better than Nouveau, as much as I hate to say that for Open Source in this case
22:41 Calinou       it's not true in all cases
22:41 Calinou       Nouveau offers good performance on some GPUs now
22:41 Calinou       OpenGL support is ~4.1 on modern GPUs, will soon be 4.3
22:41 Markow        Nvidia's is due for an update anyway, it's been 1/2 year now
22:43 Markow        My glxinfo show: OpenGL version string: 2.1 Mesa 11.2.2
22:43 Markow        It's not a modern GPU
22:45 Markow        Device: Mesa DRI Intel(R) G33
22:45 Markow        That's my integrated though
22:45 Markow        Not my Nvidia, my mistake
22:47 Markow        Specs for my NV GPU say: OpenGL 3.1 Optimization and Support
22:49 Markow        Unfortunately, that's the highest version this NV GPU will support
22:55 Calinou       pretty sure your GPU can do OpenGL 3.3
22:55 Calinou       my old laptop's 9600M GT did OpenGL 3.3 perfectly
22:55 Calinou       it's a 2008 GPU
23:06 Markow        This NV is a Geforce 210 MSI fanless version, released October 2009
23:10 Fixer         minetest performance sucks on any videocard :trollface:
23:12 DoyleChris    Good evening
23:12 DoyleChris    how do i make a v6 mapgen that is flat
23:12 DoyleChris    i added the flat tag in the minetest.conf but it didnt work
23:13 Fixer         hmm, why not just flat mapgen? it will have all v6 biomes I guess
23:13 DoyleChris    that is what im wondering
23:14 DoyleChris    ill try flat
23:14 Fixer         0.4.14 has flat mapgen :}
23:22 DoyleChris    it spawned me in a snow biome
23:23 DoyleChris    2016-05-21 19:23:07: ERROR[Main]: ServerError: Lua: OOM error from mod 'technic_worldgen' in callback environment_OnGenerated(): not enough memory 2016-05-21 19:23:07: ERROR[Main]: Current Lua memory usage: 55 MB
23:24 Fixer         too much mods?
23:24 Fixer         you are low on memory?
23:27 DoyleChris    trying to locate water not finding anything
23:31 kaeza         o/
23:31 DoyleChris    is there water on the flat map
23:33 kaeza         DoyleChris, only if there are caves
23:33 DoyleChris    are caves on by default in flat mapgen
23:34 DoyleChris    well i just noclipped underground and flat has the cliffs like v7
23:35 DoyleChris    how do i remove them and go back to caves
23:36 Fixer         kaeza: \o
23:39 Fixer         Calinou: can you also post that file on forum? https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=9635
23:40 DoyleChris    do you know what im talking about underground
23:50 Calinou       Fixer: I no longer put anything on my Dropbox, need to log in to it, download everything and just put stuff as forum attachment
23:50 Calinou       or as Git repository
23:50 Calinou       https://up1.ca/#pi1ESbJzS8g-L-vQY8CFDg
23:50 Fixer         Calinou: i will repost it myself on forum
23:50 Calinou       here's a direct upload
23:51 Fixer         it is good to have files on forum too
23:51 Calinou       Git repo would work
23:57 Fixer         Calinou: no, github can be closed, just attach those files on forum pages
23:59 Calinou       Fixer: my repositories would sit in the minetest-mods organization anyway