Time  Nick             Message
00:23 TommyTreasure    nore: i'm still having issues with teleport tube.  pm?
00:41 GetBiomeInfo     i have different experience
00:41 GetBiomeInfo     I often spawn in warm biomes
00:42 paramat          heheh
00:42 GetBiomeInfo     aand in tree trunks
00:42 GetBiomeInfo     not rare for sure
02:44 MinetestBot      02[git] 04paramat -> 03minetest/minetest: Meshes: Make object mesh face shading consistent 1325ba96f https://git.io/vMghj (152017-01-13T02:42:18Z)
02:48 TommyTreasure    anyone available for a bit of lua assistance.  file write permissions
02:49 paramat          i'm not good in that area unfortunately
02:49 TommyTreasure    don't feel bad, i'm useless with lua
03:36 kaeza            TommyTreasure, what's the exact issue?
03:43 TommyTreasure    the file ..../world/teleport_tubes gets truncated, and only 1 line shows
03:44 TommyTreasure    and rwx gets changed to 644
03:45 TommyTreasure    minetestserver .0.4.15-dev
03:45 kaeza            rwx? O.o
03:46 TommyTreasure    read, write execute permissions
03:46 kaeza            yes, but why +x?
03:46 TommyTreasure    on my home server, they are rw-, rw, r--
03:47 TommyTreasure    on my production server, they are rw-, r--, r--.  even if i delete the file and let pipeworks create it new
03:48 TommyTreasure    i even added a group to the run-user so it matches the deb format
03:48 kaeza            Lua does not touch file permissions at all, AFAIK
03:49 TommyTreasure    hmmm, i didn't see a command line parameter to run minetestserver as a different groupid
03:49 kaeza            it just uses the current umask or whatever it's called when creating files
03:49 TommyTreasure    on my server, user accounts all defauld to the group 'user', not the user name, as in ubuntu
03:50 TommyTreasure    this is the line i get if i tail the teleport_tube file...  *** File teleport_tubes truncated (size=24, tell=114)
03:54 TommyTreasure    i just deleted the file, and am creating a new tube.  first receive tube...
03:54 TommyTreasure    -rw-r--r-- 1 tommy users       114 Jan 12 19:52 teleport_tubes
03:54 kaeza            are you running `tail` while the server is active?
03:55 kaeza            pipeworks is probably updating the file at the same time you're `tail`ing it
03:55 TommyTreasure    not at the moment.  the second place of tube truncated the file, and only 1 line is showing now
03:56 TommyTreasure    i did for testing tonight.  i've been fighting this prob for the past week.  all other mods are disabled.  only mesecons, pipeworks and technic are enabled...  other than default
03:57 TommyTreasure    i had a similar issue on my home system, but replacing digilines seemed to have solved that issue
03:58 kaeza            no idea, sorry
03:58 TommyTreasure    thanks a bunch.  at least its creating the group as in the ubuntu install
03:59 TommyTreasure    to make matters worse, its on a slack box
09:31 Taose            Is there a mature tool repair mod lying around?
09:31 Taose            I tried Work Bench, but...it's no good
09:32 agaran           hmm, technic has one..
09:32 agaran           anvil from castles I think, is another working
09:32 Taose            Technic is a user?
09:32 Taose            nope
09:32 Taose            a mod
09:33 Taose            ...
09:33 Taose            I'm reluctant to install technic at the moment
09:34 Taose            To big of an upgrade
09:34 agaran           technic is big mod yes
09:36 Taose            x-decor is the only other one I found and I don't like that one >.<
09:36 Taose            (It literally costs more to repair weapons than to build them, so what's the point?)
09:37 Taose            That and I'm a firm believer of the "If you want to repair something, you should replace worn parts" (i.e more material)
09:38 Taose            and the X-Decor mod doesn't allow that.
09:41 agaran           technic uses plainly energy todo that, anvil uses hammer to repair which in turn gets worn
09:50 Taose            yeah, I can see the point behind the hammer wearing, slowly...
09:50 Taose            but I got a wooden axe that needs repairing
09:50 Taose            and apparently i need two hammers to repair it -_-
09:53 agaran           lol
09:53 agaran           who uses wodden axes anyway in prolonged time
09:54 agaran           I use wodden tools till I can get stone
10:00 TommyTreasure    hammer and anvil from cottages
10:01 TommyTreasure    part of villages mod, just don't enable the rest of the modpack if you're not already using villages modpack
10:01 TommyTreasure    and don't enable villages on an existing world
10:04 JamesTait        Good morning all! Happy Friday (what, already?), and happy Make Your Dream Come True Day! 😃
10:12 VanessaE         JamesTait: what, no fortune commensurate with Friday the 13th? :)
10:14 CWz              VanessaE
10:15 agaran           Hi Vanessa
10:15 VanessaE         hi
10:16 JamesTait        VanessaE, it is also Blame Someone Else Day. 😉
10:16 JamesTait        Also, HAI!
10:16 VanessaE         heh
10:16 Calinou          https://github.com/jayphelps/git-blame-someone-else
10:17 JamesTait        Just blame git.
10:17 JamesTait        Far easier.
10:31 Jookia           o/ Any servers that allow farms to grow while I'm not around the chunk or offline?
10:33 VanessaE         most servers work that way now
10:33 VanessaE         if they're up-to-date.
10:33 VanessaE         crops, furnaces, etc. run with timers now I believe.
10:56 Taose            Steel seems to be the most frequently useful tool for a long time but I'm not planning on staying where I am, nor am I ready to set up even a small mine yet.
10:56 Taose            So wood is my best alternative.
10:56 Taose            Stone if I can nab a bit here or there, but mostly I'm just working with wood so...
10:57 Taose            >.> also Minetest doesn't have a circular energy system.
10:57 Taose            Once gone, something is really gone for good.
11:00 VanessaE         circular energy?
11:05 * agaran         would like to know too what is circular energy
11:06 VanessaE         maybe he just means stuff is or isn't renewable.
11:06 VanessaE         and fwiw, minetest can do that too with minerals/ores.  it just doesn't by default.
11:07 agaran           true, for renevability it is not so great, either cheat-alike solar/geo for technic.. or fuel fired gens with tree farms
11:07 VanessaE         (trees already do, have for years)
11:07 agaran           would be interesting to make world with limited resources, aside of plain rock.. where you need to conserve them.. in hostile world..
11:08 VanessaE         that's been done before I think
11:08 agaran           mars ?
11:08 VanessaE         moon.
11:11 agaran           hmm, haven't seen that server then..
11:11 VanessaE         look up mooontest
11:11 VanessaE         well, with two o's :P
11:22 Jookia           I thought VanessaE retired from Minetest
11:23 VanessaE         took a break.
11:23 Taose            Circular energy: Energy is neither created nor destroyed, it is simply transformed into something else.
11:23 Jookia           Glad you're back then :)
11:23 Taose            Ultimately once you have a set amount of blocks you should be able to obtain them all by simply crafting.
11:23 VanessaE         Taose: in which case all that's needed is for waste heat from furnaces and the like to go back into the system in the form of wind or something
11:24 Jookia           ENTROPYCRAFT
11:24 VanessaE         what you want is skyblock then
11:24 Taose            >.>
11:24 VanessaE         most of what's in that game is standard minetest blocks
11:24 Jookia           But doesn't heat come from the destroyal of resources?
11:24 VanessaE         but once you have a "seed" of any given ore, you can make more, and everything else can be crafted from what already exists
11:24 VanessaE         dirt can become stone, for example
11:25 Taose            G'luck crafting dirt...
11:25 VanessaE         get it from gravel
11:25 VanessaE         (which comes from stone or sand)
11:25 Taose            not in standard XD
11:25 VanessaE         I forget the crafting path
11:26 Taose            Waste heat could be interesting...
11:27 Taose            now back to a decent repair mod...lemme look up that villages pack
11:27 VanessaE         Jookia: like Taose said, energy can't be created or destroyed.  when you burn something, you use the heat to produce work, and what heat doesn't get put to use goes back into the environment, as is the heat "produced" by the workload.
11:28 Taose            Honestly VanessaE just took my idea and upsold it.
11:29 VanessaE         heh
11:29 VanessaE         now you have a project :)
11:30 Taose            yeah
11:30 Taose            ...
11:30 Taose            >.>
11:30 Taose            now lemme get started on my procrastination.
11:30 * Taose          makes tea first.
11:32 VanessaE         heh
11:33 agaran           tea is good always
11:34 * Jookia         would be playing minetest right now if they weren't building a cross-compiler
11:34 Taose            Cross compiler?
11:34 Jookia           Uhh, compiling then
11:34 agaran           cross compiler is acceptable excuse
11:35 Jookia           Linux is overloaded by 7x ;_;
11:35 VanessaE         meh, linux can hold the load :P
11:35 Jookia           Yeah, but I don't want to push my 2008 laptop too hard
11:35 Jookia           I was playing CTF earlier while building something else and it froze
11:40 agaran           check if thats is not overheating.. lappies are prone to that
12:16 Jookia           Can anyone suggest a somewhat organized PvE or PvP server that supports farming? :P
12:17 Jookia           Switchboard PvP is nice but farming seems to not work when I'm away and I feel kind of awful idling and taking up a player slot for virtual plant
12:33 Taose            Is the server often full?
12:33 Taose            ...which reminds me...
12:33 Taose            Is there a way to reserve slots for none staff?
13:04 * Jookia         shrugs
13:07 agaran           I think there is, you can hack authentication system probably
13:40 Taose            Jookia, if the server isn't full, then taking up a spot is fine. If the Server is regularly reaching 98% capacity however, it should look at increasing its size.
14:02 Mckol_           Hello
15:24 Taose            ...oh boy. Too much coding for me today
15:24 TelepathicVampir Does anyone know why player:getpos() would be a nil value when looping through connected players?
15:25 * Taose          went to type: I'm learning Python right now. Actually typed: While I do: learn python
15:25 agaran           poor you
15:26 agaran           that amount of python does no good for ones mind..
15:26 Taose            Tele, has a player connected but not been spawned on the map yet?
15:26 Taose            Do we do observers?
15:27 TelepathicVampir no the method triggers after 10 seconds
15:27 TelepathicVampir player is already in position
15:27 Taose            hm
15:27 TelepathicVampir i can get his name, but pos is nil
15:28 Taose            Checked your boolean logic?
15:28 Taose            Could be a +1 error though a misplaced >=
15:28 Taose            (Literally guessing here)
15:29 TelepathicVampir can i post a link to the code somewhere?
15:29 TelepathicVampir its only 10 lines
15:29 Taose            Github? Pastebit?
15:29 Taose            Pastebin*
15:29 TelepathicVampir ah pastebin, thats it brb
15:29 Taose            They do lua syntax too
15:30 * Taose          learns lua by literally throwing themselves into other people code
15:31 TelepathicVampir http://pastebin.com/A1FhW2Yw
15:32 TelepathicVampir i'm also new to lua so..
15:32 TelepathicVampir error is attempt to call field getHeat(a nil value)
15:33 Taose            A function definition inside a function call O.o that's brave
15:33 TelepathicVampir you mean line 3? i copied it somewhere^^
15:34 IhrFussel        Is there any direct link I can use on github that works with EVERY repository to download the latest master.zip file?
15:34 Taose            Repository?
15:34 Taose            Just clone the source and compile??
15:35 IhrFussel        No I don't want to compile something, it's about easy downloading + extracting mod zips
15:35 IhrFussel        A repository is "https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game" for example
15:36 Taose            The clone button just download the master.zip file every time
15:36 Taose            Unless you switch to the dev version (but you have to do that)
15:36 IhrFussel        But I want to do it directly via the server (wget)
15:37 Taose            https://github.com/minetest/minetest/archive/master.zip is for minetest
15:38 Taose            But it really depends on the projects set up
15:38 IhrFussel        So instead of minetest/minetest I can type any other existing repository right?
15:38 Taose            In theory yes
15:39 Taose            so https://github.com/[REPOSITORY]/[PROJECT]/archive/master.zip
15:40 Taose            I'm not sure if wget can get you a list of directories from the repository...
15:40 Taose            but that'd be useful if it did
15:40 Taose            anyway back to that code
15:41 Taose            TelepathicVampir, what's the _ in _,player for?
15:42 TelepathicVampir that part is fine, i dont know lua so i dont know why but it works
15:42 TelepathicVampir found the problem
15:42 Taose            ?
15:43 TelepathicVampir using the function getHeat
15:43 TelepathicVampir or get_heat as it is or was called
15:43 TelepathicVampir its obsolete
15:43 Taose            oops
15:43 TelepathicVampir i thought the error came from the parameter but it was the function call
15:43 Taose            >.< Nice bug solving there
15:44 TelepathicVampir im sorry to bother you, that was uneccesary ;)
15:44 Taose            Not a problem
15:44 Taose            If me being here to bounce ideas helps minetest, then that's what I'm here for ^-^
15:44 Taose            ...now, if only I could get a penny for every time...
15:45 TelepathicVampir much appreciated, but low on pennies myself :)
15:45 Taose            Oh I know the feeling
15:46 Taose            Come dev for Minetest, you'll go bankrupt inexplicably guaranteed.
15:46 TelepathicVampir i justed wanted to say, its the poorest community i ever met
15:46 TelepathicVampir in terms of financial status, everything else is great
15:46 Taose            X)
15:47 TelepathicVampir i fit in perfectly
15:49 Taose            ...hum I can't find the villages mod...
15:52 Taose            alright where are the minetest forums hosted
15:52 Taose            >_>
16:11 Taose            oh great now Github has gone donw
16:13 Taose            Anyone confirm?
16:14 Taose            twoelk, is github working for you?
16:15 Calinou          it is down, Taose
16:15 Calinou          https://status.github.com/
16:15 Taose            >.> thought it might be me
16:15 Taose            >.> I was just refreshing that, wasn't saying anything
16:15 Taose            XD
16:15 twoelk           hm, ok so that is why my pull script stumbled
16:15 twoelk           I was wondering
16:16 twoelk           seemed to work some minutes ago, then it threw messages of not finding repositories
16:18 twoelk           eek, maybe I shouldn't have "git pull plug"  :-D
16:19 Taose            lmfao
16:23 IhrFussel        And I was just teaching someone how to compile Minetest on Ubuntu lol
16:24 Taose            >.>
16:24 Taose            As long as it has been downloaded
16:24 Taose            should be in the readme
16:25 Calinou          just get an AppImage
16:25 Amaz             It's back now :)
16:25 Calinou          https://archive.hugo.pro/minetest/
16:25 Calinou          I will update it to have 1) stable 0.4.15, 2) latest development release
16:29 IhrFussel        Taose, nope the download was aborted
16:30 twoelk           hm ... "The requested URL returned error: 504"
16:53 zorman2000       Taose: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=13589
16:54 Taose            that'll be why I can't find it
16:56 Taose            Welp looks like I'm stuck for a while >.<
16:57 zorman2000       Weird. I can download it fine. Tried just now
16:58 Taose            It's not that, I just don't use WIP mods.
16:59 zorman2000       I have been using this mod for months and I can tell you one thing: this is good. The only errors can be around terrain blending after generating a village
16:59 zorman2000       Still not errors, just doesn't look nice. I recommend a new map if you want to try
16:59 Taose            That's okay, I'll wait for Sokomine to decide whether he wants to release it or not
17:13 twoelk           Taose: you really should try some WIP mods, be brave and help the developers to find all issues. If no one tests and reports it will take for ever for the mods to move to release
17:20 Taose            I'm still busy testing out the core engine and associated released mods.
17:21 Taose            and finding out which mods work for me. I can't do that if the game is screwing up all the time.
17:21 TommyTreasure    IhrFussel:  For what its worth, I compiled 0.4.15 on a Slackware box a couple weeks ago, and found I had to run 'make clean' before I ran 'cmake'.
17:21 Taose            (I've already had to reject one of Wuzzy's released mods due to a sound bug, but I can't post on the forums because my IP is blacklisted)
17:23 TommyTreasure    I 've got the same issue.  I can' do a thing about my IPS other customers
17:23 twoelk           oh? got bad neighbours?
17:24 twoelk           mods from here should be a nice start https://github.com/minetest-mods
17:24 TommyTreasure    dunno, but i had to take my laptop to a starbucks just to get an account on the forum.  now i can't post.  lol
17:25 TommyTreasure    i think the isp blacklist for the forum is a bit too tough
17:25 twoelk           there was a lot of spamming some weeks ago
17:26 Taose            twoelk, no, just a vpn. :) But I don't mind the associated problems.
17:28 twoelk           you could ask staff for help; some of them are on irc
17:29 Taose            I could, that involves a certain degree of effort
17:29 twoelk           true ;-P
17:29 Taose            and usually the advice given is: Well don't use a vpn then.
17:30 Taose            If you've got nothing to hide you have nothing to fear...said the SS agent
17:30 twoelk           well ... so ... don't ... use ...  ...
17:31 Taose            Privacy the only argument not invalidated by invoking the Nazis...
17:32 * twoelk         thinks the Nazis are often overused as examples of to many things
17:32 Taose            They are, they are.
17:34 agaran           Taose: something similar was said by some google representative I think, when they admitted that they log lot more than they actually need
17:37 Taose            Git question: If I commit directly to the master branch of a forked item, does that commit to the forked item or to the main branch?
17:37 * twoelk         admits he is an information junkie
17:38 twoelk           master of forks? sounds devilish to me
17:38 Taose            I forked workbench from minetest-mods/workbench
17:38 Taose            and now I want to modify my fork >.>
17:42 twoelk           master of forked item me thinks as a pull request would have to be answered from the main branch you forked from
17:42 * twoelk         stares at his cuttlery
17:46 Taose            X)
17:46 Taose            Seems not
17:46 Taose            seems like it commits to my fork
17:48 twoelk           didn't I say that?
17:48 * twoelk         stares at his cuttlery looking for the missing fork
17:48 Taose            >.>
17:48 Taose            I don't know what you said
17:49 Taose            I glazed over half way through
17:49 * TommyTreasure  thinks that someday, he'll understand how github works
17:50 twoelk           cool - just what I intended so I could hide my incompetence
17:50 Taose            XD
17:51 TommyTreasure    if only modders could come together with a way of identifying updates to WIP (as well as others as well) in a somewhat standard way
17:52 Taose            hm looks like I'm going to be forking the workplace mod permanently
17:52 twoelk           standards in an open source game development?  good luck
17:53 TommyTreasure    oh, i know, but right now, the only way is to look at file timestamp
17:53 Taose            Standards can be done, it just means that someone has to be nominated as an "organizer" or such like with an agreed set of standards.
17:53 twoelk           https://github.com/minetest-mods is as far as we got until now
17:53 TommyTreasure    well, i do have one standard, if its not on git, and has no activity in the formus, i won't try it
17:54 TommyTreasure    oh, that's 2
17:55 twoelk           well some things are good as they are - for example mapfix is a musthave that hasn't changed much
17:56 TommyTreasure    btw, and while i'm here....  i'd like to publicy thank agaran for spending a few hours with me this morning fixing an issue with pipeworks acting up on an installation on a 32bit Slackware box
18:03 TommyTreasure    mapfix, hmmmm.  firefox says i looked at the page, but i guess i didn't look it ALL over.  ty
18:04 twoelk           waves at minetest-project
18:07 Taose            regarding modding
18:07 Taose            Do if I want three tools of the same type different materials, do they need unique registrations?
18:07 Taose            (e.g minetest.register_tool())
18:12 twoelk           why shouldn't they? are they not different?
18:40 Krock            Taose, when you change one parameter it's already a different item, so you'll need one registration for one item
18:41 Taose            Thanks Krock, I've acted on that assumption
18:41 Krock            !next
18:41 MinetestBot      Another satisfied customer. Next!
18:42 TelepathicVampir Is there a way to get_biome_at(pos), i read some posts but back then it wasnt possible i guess
18:44 Taose            is get_stack() one of your functions?
18:44 Taose            I'm trying to find out which hammer it has
18:46 * Taose          checks the documentation
18:46 Taose            ...
18:46 Taose            well that's not helpful
18:54 Taose            How do I make a mod print to debug?
18:55 Taose            or standard output?
19:12 Krock            Taose, try minetest.log("<log level>", "msg")
19:14 Taose            I shall do
19:14 Taose            once I can get it to recognise my registrations
19:14 Taose            -_-
19:14 Taose            unknown item...
19:14 Taose            *kicks*
19:14 Taose            oh
19:14 Taose            I think...
19:15 Taose            ...hehehe
19:18 Taose            That time when a dev doesn't do what you think would be great
19:18 Taose            ...and you do it anyway
19:20 Taose            Is there anyway to quick damage a tool without destroying it?
19:24 MinetestBot      02[git] 04ShadowNinja -> 03minetest/minetest: Enable mod security by default 137ae7f1e https://git.io/vMa2z (152017-01-13T19:08:24Z)
19:25 nik123           Are there any open-source 2D minecraft/minetest clones, just wondering.
19:25 Taose            ....
19:25 Taose            Technically this is a minetest clone
19:25 Taose            There's terasology
19:25 Taose            but...
19:25 Taose            it's not the best
19:25 Taose            (at the moment)
19:27 nik123           So basicly no, I though I could make that (not planning it to be big btw.)
19:27 Taose            g'luck
19:27 Taose            But honestly
19:27 nik123           I have C++ and SDL2 knoweledge
19:27 Taose            your efforts would be better spent contributing to an established project
19:28 nik1232          Sorry my computer froze xD
19:29 nik123           nwm. So contributing to other games...
19:31 KaadmY           terasology is more of a game than MT at the moment
19:31 KaadmY           it's more solid and playable
19:32 Taose            Not it isn't
19:33 Taose            No*
19:33 Taose            It really isn't
19:33 Taose            Neither solid nor stable
19:33 nik123           I meant something like Crafted for iOS. That got taken down unfortunately.
19:34 nik123           I had fun playing it...
19:35 nik123           But terasology is just minetest (after a bit of googling) with really good graphics.
19:36 KaadmY           has unique gameplay at least
19:36 KaadmY           have you tried it yet?
19:37 nik123           nah. I have a ATI X1400, I don't want to risk burning it.
19:37 KaadmY           i have an inel 965GMA
19:38 KaadmY           at 25% res and lowest settings, it's faster than MT
19:39 zorman2000       niki123, I thought Terasology was in Java and not based on Minetest?
19:39 Taose            good graphics but after a google coding test completely went to kaput
19:40 Taose            Anyway guys...
19:40 nik123           well minecraft/minetest clone
19:40 nik123           I should've refered as that
19:40 Taose            having a bit of a problem (mostly because I'm not sure why the on_put isn't accepting the drop)
19:40 Taose            https://github.com/Taose/workbench/blob/master/init.lua
19:40 Taose            I can't put a hammer into the chest
19:40 Taose            They appear nicely enough
19:41 zorman2000       You can't out object into inventory? What is the line with the problem?
19:42 Taose            I've got a hammer in my inventory, I just can't put it into the chest.
19:42 Taose            It won't accept it.
19:42 Taose            I think the problem is on line 238
19:42 Taose            Have no idea what listname is doing
19:43 zorman2000       I see :)
19:43 zorman2000       Listname is a way to refer to subset of an inventory
19:43 zorman2000       So for example, a node have an inventory. In this same inventory you want to have a slot for a tool, and a slot for the tool to be fixed
19:44 zorman2000       Or something like that
19:44 zorman2000       So listname input is the tool to be fixed
19:44 zorman2000       listname "tool" should be the one to have the hammer
19:45 Taose            well it does so far as I am aware.
19:45 Taose            three possible hammers.
19:46 zorman2000       Your code should be something like: if listname == "tool" then if inv:get_stack("tool", 1):get_name() == "wood hammer"
19:46 Taose            what no underscore?
19:46 zorman2000       Sorry can't write good code here
19:46 zorman2000       That is your item name, so yes, underscore
19:46 Taose            (listname == "wood_hammer" and stackname == "Taose_Work:wood_hammer") or
19:46 zorman2000       Just that you need to get the item on that inventory list
19:47 Taose            That's what I have already.
19:47 Taose            But it's failing >.<
19:47 zorman2000       I think you want only one inventory list for all tools
19:47 zorman2000       Not a separate slot for every different tool
19:47 Taose            ah that could be it
19:47 zorman2000       Just use the tool one
19:47 Taose            (well honestly I'm just trying to get it working)
19:48 Taose            The tool one works
19:48 Taose            It accepts pick axes and so on
19:48 Taose            just not my hammers XD
19:48 zorman2000       You should do it just as the above one
19:48 zorman2000       Name the listname tool
19:48 zorman2000       Then get the item
19:48 zorman2000       Same as line 241
19:48 zorman2000       Replace "input" with "tool"
19:49 zorman2000       That "input" is the listname
19:49 zorman2000       1 is the slot
19:49 zorman2000       That will give you an ItemStack
19:49 zorman2000       Then you check the name of the ItemStack
19:50 Taose            whoa step back
19:51 Taose            How do I name the list name tool?
19:51 zorman2000       It ia already there. Line 147, workbench.construct
19:51 zorman2000       When the node is placed, you define the inventory lists
19:52 zorman2000       Line 151 defines the inventory list "tool"
19:52 zorman2000       It has only 1 slot
19:53 zorman2000       Man if I was on my computer rather than cell phone -__-
19:53 zorman2000       Would have already done it for you to show yoy
19:53 zorman2000       You*
19:53 Taose            I changed it to hammer instead
19:53 Taose            I learn better this way
19:53 Taose            Changing it to hammer allowed the input
19:53 Taose            ...but it just crashed on me XD
19:53 * Taose          watches the server burn
19:54 Taose            line 187 -_-
19:54 Taose            goddammit
19:57 zorman2000       https://paste.ubuntu.com/23794001/
19:57 zorman2000       Hope this helps :)
19:58 Taose            oh...
19:58 Taose            yep
19:58 zorman2000       That was what I was trying to say.. is just better to show code
19:59 Taose            no it really doesn't like get_name
19:59 Taose            userdata expected, got no value >.<
19:59 zorman2000       Let's see can't remember if that was
20:00 Taose            wait I'm getting the hell confused here
20:02 Taose            It won't even deal with that part at the moment
20:02 Taose            It's just whining about 187 now
20:03 Taose            get_name doesn't have sufficient arguments.
20:03 zorman2000       Ah
20:04 zorman2000       I think it should be hammer:get_name()
20:04 zorman2000       Colon instead of dot
20:04 Taose            that'd do it
20:05 zorman2000       You should then replace my "tool" with "hammer" on the code on pastebin
20:06 Taose            yep
20:06 Taose            Seems to be working for the moment
20:06 Taose            Just gotta damage my tool again to check
20:06 * Taose          spawns diamond blocks
20:07 zorman2000       I think it should be cool now
20:08 Taose            seems to be mostly working just gonna test the other two hammers
20:09 zorman2000       Good! It should work for the rest
20:09 Taose            not as expected
20:10 zorman2000       What happened?
20:10 Taose            wood hammer was repairing too quickly
20:10 zorman2000       Then you need to adjust the timer
20:11 Taose            No what I mean is
20:11 Taose            I have two hammers
20:11 zorman2000       L
20:11 Taose            One should repair faster than the other.
20:11 Taose            The bronze axe works as expected
20:11 Taose            hammer*
20:11 Taose            the wood hammer doesn't
20:12 zorman2000       It is the same as bronze?
20:12 Taose            The bronze hammer is supposed to add -25600 wear to the tool
20:13 Krock            add something that doesn't exist in minetest yet: a hammer made of baloons
20:13 Taose            The wood hammer -6400.
20:13 Taose            a wood hammer doesn't exist in minetest...
20:14 zorman2000       Is it adding the same wear? Both hammers? Well
20:14 Taose            appears to be doing that
20:14 Taose            or ignoring that it is a wood hammer
20:14 zorman2000       You should place a print inside each "if"
20:15 zorman2000       And see which one is entering
20:15 zorman2000       Might want also to print the hammer:get_name()
20:15 Taose            uhm
20:15 Taose            ...
20:16 * Taose          *blushes*
20:16 * Taose          retests
20:16 zorman2000       minetest.log("Check wood hammer. Hammer: "..dump(hammer:get_name()))
20:16 zorman2000       That is your friend
20:17 Taose            I really need a way of half killing an item.
20:20 agaran           Taose: you can make commands that wear half of active item I think
20:22 KaadmY           hammer:set_wear(0 to 65536)
20:27 Taose            okay better
20:27 Taose            Now it's not repairing at all
20:28 Taose            oooh
20:28 Taose            figured it out
20:28 Taose            Didn't put in the full name
20:32 octacian         Taose: are you learning Lua?
20:33 Taose            nope
20:33 octacian         awwwww....
20:34 Taose            I got forced into doing a mod by a developer
20:38 Taose            Why anything I can help with?
20:56 Taose            right happy with that bit now
20:57 Taose            How do I make minetest.register_craft use the furnace?
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21:05 Taose            How do I pass multiple arguments to "type" in lua?
21:05 octacian         Taose: who forced you to make a mod?
21:05 Taose            Trying to make so that the recipe is shapeless and cooking >.<
21:05 octacian         uhhhh...
21:05 octacian         that's easy. if I understand properly.
21:06 Taose            I thought it'd be (x, y)
21:06 Taose            but nope
21:06 octacian         to pass an argument, let's say var is the variable, run type(var)
21:06 octacian         type will return results such as "string", "table", etc...
21:06 Taose            I mean assigning
21:06 octacian         assigning? wuh?
21:07 Taose            In python I can assign two variables to a single item and it'll automatically convert to a implicit list
21:07 octacian         can you explain further what you mean by assign two variables to a single item? lol you should've learned lua first
21:07 Taose            Have bigger fish to fry
21:08 octacian         ..like
21:08 Taose            learning python
21:09 octacian         Taose: just learn Lua... THEN learn python.
21:09 Taose            Nope
21:10 octacian         I still have NO CLUE what you mean by assigning two variables to a single item.
21:10 Taose            This is the only thing I'm doing in Lua.
21:10 octacian         you mean passing two variables as an argument?
21:10 octacian         * arguments
21:10 Taose            Then I'm back to Python
21:10 Taose            no.
21:10 octacian         ok, still confused.
21:10 Taose            I mean Type = a, b
21:10 Taose            in python I just do: type = (a, b)
21:10 octacian         and what is Type?
21:10 Taose            and it'll know what the hell I'm talking about
21:10 Taose            ...dunno
21:10 Taose            ask the people who made register_craft
21:11 Taose            (btw documentation needs improving)
21:11 octacian         oh, you mean create a variable and concatenate two variables together?
21:11 Taose            Do you think it'll recognize the two variables separately?
21:11 Taose            http://dev.minetest.net/minetest.register_craft
21:11 octacian         local new_variable = a .. b
21:12 Taose            I want to apply by cooking and shapeless
21:12 octacian         (or a..b)
21:12 octacian         you want to apply by cooking and shapeless?
21:12 octacian         you mean you want something that can be made either with a shapeless recipe or by cooking.
21:12 Taose            I want it to be shapeless, but require a furnace
21:13 octacian         ok. give me a larger idea of what your doing please.
21:13 Taose            Salvaging a bronze hammer
21:13 octacian         oh, and what is the doc missing?
21:13 octacian         ok
21:13 Taose            I want to put it in a furnace to melt it down
21:14 octacian         ok. so you want, type = "cooking", output = "hammer:hammer" or whatever the itemstring is
21:14 Taose            no I want the output to a bronze ingot
21:14 Taose            input: hammer
21:14 Taose            output: ingot
21:14 octacian         one second.
21:14 octacian         wait, so you also want to require that it's cooked in default:furnace?
21:15 Taose            yep
21:15 Taose            gotta melt the hammer head off.
21:15 octacian         I've never heard of anybody trying to require that it be default:furnace.
21:15 Taose            hehehe
21:15 octacian         that means that it'd break in technic furnaces, doesn't make sense.
21:15 Taose            ?
21:15 Taose            Well they're weird
21:15 octacian         what'd you mean?
21:16 Taose            I've not specified it needs to be in default:furnace
21:16 Taose            Only that it is of type "cooking"
21:16 octacian         ok, so, right to the point. WHY do you want to specify that it needs to be in default:furnace?
21:16 Taose            so it needs to be cooked.
21:16 Taose            I don't.
21:16 octacian         ok, so what is the doc missing?
21:16 Taose            Only that it needs to be cooked.
21:16 octacian         I'll update it.
21:16 Taose            It doesn't tell me how the recipe can be shapeless and require cooking.
21:16 octacian         oh, just looked at it. its entirely missing an example for cooking.
21:17 Taose            >.>
21:17 octacian         ok. for cooking, you don't specify that it's shapeless. just cooking
21:17 Taose            >.>
21:17 * Taose          meh
21:17 octacian         what?
21:17 emunand          what?
21:18 kaeza            what?
21:18 sofar            up the
21:18 octacian         Calinou: my wiki account disappeared....
21:18 octacian         seriously, Taose: what's the problem? :rotfl:
21:20 octacian         Taose: https://gist.github.com/octacian/ff694053b8983b99e67646dc71fc91ba
21:20 Taose            geh it doesn't wanna work XD
21:21 Taose            It's telling me I'm missing a recipe
21:21 Taose            but it's right there...
21:22 octacian         can you PM me your code or pastbin it?
21:23 Taose            https://github.com/Taose/workbench/blob/master/init.lua
21:23 Taose            line 349
21:24 octacian         should be http://pastebin.com/tKWVa7Hh
21:25 Taose            lets try that
21:25 Taose            Thank you!
21:25 octacian         yw
21:25 octacian         (just cause I've never done it before)
21:25 octacian         !next
21:25 MinetestBot      Another satisfied customer. Next!
21:25 octacian         :rotfl:
21:26 Taose            X)
21:26 kaeza            !rainbow bot abuse ♥
21:26 MinetestBot      4bo7t 8ab3us12e 6♥
21:26 octacian         !rainbow heh didn't know it could do that
21:26 MinetestBot      4heh 7didn8't k3now 12it c6ould13 do 4that
21:27 KaadmY           !rainbox BOTZX ARE RAINBOZW AND YAYAYAYAY UNIKORNZ
21:27 KaadmY           !rainbow BOTZX ARE RAINBOZW AND YAYAYAYAY UNIKORNZ
21:27 MinetestBot      4BOTZ7X AR8E RA3INBO12ZW A6ND Y13AYAY4AYAY7 UNI8KORN3Z
21:27 KaadmY           dar
21:27 octacian         !rainbow GITHUB HAS A TALKING UNICORN
21:27 MinetestBot      4GITH7UB H8AS A3 TAL12KING6 UNI13CORN
21:27 kaeza            05/04f07a08b 09i03s 11u10l12o02u06s
21:27 octacian         kaeza: how'd you get that? ^
21:28 KaadmY           hexchat i assume?
21:28 octacian         probably.
21:28 KaadmY           or custom client macros
21:28 Taose            https://github.com/Taose/workbench < Repair your tools properly ;)
21:28 kaeza            octacian, https://github.com/Poorchop/hexchat-scripts/blob/master/Arnavion-scripts/rainbows.py
21:28 octacian         cool!
21:29 kaeza            not sure if that's the one I'm using though
21:30 octacian         ok. does it work?
21:30 octacian         that's a no...
21:31 kaeza            try it?
21:31 octacian         how do you use it at all? that /fab thing?
21:31 octacian         05t04e07s08t09!
21:32 octacian         ok, I see. cool!
21:34 Taose            Well hasn't that been a whirlwind tour
21:34 Taose            If someone wants to edit the graphics for diamond and stuff, I'll implement them ^-^
21:35 Taose            I wonder, can other tools be salvaged for parts?
21:35 Taose            or is it just mine?
21:36 octacian         Taose: not that I know of.
21:36 KaadmY           what's that mod do exactly?
21:36 KaadmY           just repairs tools?
21:36 octacian         yes.
21:37 KaadmY           ah, it also supports breaking down blocks into smaller pieces
21:37 KaadmY           nice workbench texture btw ;)
21:37 octacian         hey, cool!
21:37 Taose            It's from x-decor
21:37 Taose            The guy said he didn't want more hammers
21:37 Taose            ...I did
21:38 Taose            could not have given a harder fork
21:38 octacian         03M11e 10w12a02n06t13s 15h14a05m04m07e08r09s 03t11o10o12!
21:38 * Taose          looks at kaeza
21:38 Taose            This is your fault.
21:38 * kaeza          looks back at Taose
21:39 Taose            Additionally with my mod, you can salvage ingots
21:39 octacian         02:06r13o15t14f05l04:
21:39 octacian         Taose: hey, that's really cool!
21:39 Taose            and I gotta go
21:39 Taose            dog walking time apparently
21:39 octacian         cya!
21:39 Taose            be back in an hour or two
21:39 octacian         Wow! how many dogs do you have?
21:39 KaadmY           can you only salvage metal tools?
21:40 octacian         KaadmY: I think so, I haven't yet tried it thoguh.
21:40 kaeza            okay, tried to debug for 3 hours a random SIGSEGV
21:40 KaadmY           if you could salvage wood tools that'd be funny ;)
21:40 kaeza            calling snprintf when you mean vsnprintf is not nice
21:40 KaadmY           :D
22:08 polypodiales     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wksdAdkzh74
22:09 octacian         polypodiales: WHAT?
22:10 polypodiales     you don't do that?
22:14 octacian         polypodiales: do what?
22:15 polypodiales     sit in front of your computer and throw your head all over the place
22:33 octacian         polypodiales: nope.
22:34 garywhite        I wasn't aware that people did that
22:36 octacian         garywhite, me neither
22:42 freelikegnu      Jordach: are you still working on updating player animations?
22:43 xerox123         how do I set minetest.conf values for irc mod? like this? http://i.imgur.com/9ETNjTT.png
22:44 freelikegnu      Jordach: I too think the animation and even the model deserve some attention
22:52 swift110         hey garywhite
22:52 swift110         hey freelikegnu
22:55 freelikegnu      hello
22:56 garywhite        Hi swift110
23:11 rdococ           ih
23:14 MinetestBot      02[git] 04ShadowNinja -> 03minetest/minetest: Main menu tweaks 13bb154c2 https://git.io/vMVUz (152017-01-13T23:13:43Z)
23:32 kaeza            xerox123, that's pretty much all you need
23:33 kaeza            ow, reading backlog
23:41 freelikegnu      bbl
23:47 Taose            Octacian, one (American Akita).
23:48 Taose            Kaadmy, I'm not going to write a salvage recipe for a wooden hammer XD. It only goes up to bronze for the moment simply because I wanted to get it working.
23:48 KaadmY           ;)
23:49 Taose            I wonder if salvaging wooden tools into some other material wouldn't be nice, I'll see what's available.
23:49 Taose            Suggestions welcome btw
23:55 Taose            Is there a sawdust block anywhere?
23:56 twoelk           there was twigs somewhere
23:56 Taose            I'm tempted to split this mod up...
23:57 Taose            So that the hammers are separate and imported...
23:57 twoelk           from china?
23:57 Taose            X)
23:57 twoelk           and assembled in bangladesh
23:58 Taose            Being being packaged in newzealand and sold in Greenland?
23:58 Taose            ...sounds about right
23:58 Taose            Welcome Paramat
23:58 twoelk           sounds like you are heading for a globalization of tool production api