Time  Nick             Message
00:00 blaise_          Sketch2: woah
00:00 blaise_          Sketch2: Vanessa's prefab mod is mia on github.. =(
00:01 VanessaE         not my mod.
00:01 VanessaE         Dan Duncombe's
00:01 VanessaE         check cheapies mods, he has a fork too
00:03 blaise_          so which one should I run?
00:04 blaise_          I need prefab for roads.... https://github.com/cheapie/road
00:04 blaise_          wtf, where did the s go
00:04 Sketch2          https://github.com/cheapie/prefab_redo
00:04 blaise_          https://github.com/cheapie/roads
00:05 blaise_          doors is in default I thought
00:06 blaise_          Sketch2: is it not?
00:06 Sketch2          yea
00:07 Sketch2          in minetest_game  doors mod
00:20 blaise_          crap
00:21 blaise_          Sketch2: will I have to rename prefab_redo to prefab ?
00:21 Sketch2          ya know, I dunno.  could change the streets to require prefab_redo instead
00:22 Sketch2          you'd think that would already be in there
00:22 Sketch2          considering they were both forks by the same guy
00:23 blaise_          lmao
00:23 Sketch2          either-or, most likely
00:23 * blaise_        freaks right out
00:23 blaise_          git clone https://github.com/cheapie/roads.git
00:23 blaise_          oops
00:34 blaise_          Sketch2: so, it's impossible to run that mod from a runinplace config
00:34 blaise_          unless I completely rewrite the mod
00:34 blaise_          that's awesome
00:34 Sketch2          which one?  prefab or roads?
00:37 blaise_          oh wait
00:37 blaise_          it's not like that at all
00:37 blaise_          2018-02-24 00:35:32: ERROR[Main]: /home/blaise/minetest/bin/../mods/roads/streetsmod/libs/smartfs/smartfs.lua: No such file or directory
00:38 blaise_          that smartfs dir in roads/streetsmod/libs/ is empty
00:38 blaise_          there's absolutly nothing in it
00:38 blaise_          lmao
00:39 blaise_          apparently it was a link to another git repo
00:39 blaise_          and it totally didn't follow it
00:40 blaise_          had to cd ~/minetest/mods/roads/streetsmod/libs/smartfs && git clone https://github.com/rubenwardy/smartfs.git .
00:40 blaise_          it works now
00:41 Sketch2          k, cool
00:41 blaise_          that should definitly be looked in to
00:41 Sketch2          I know sometimes git does tricks like 'submodule update' or something like that
00:42 blaise_          aparently smartfs is an entirely seperate mod that is supposed to be included in that mod pack
00:42 Sketch2          I don't recall the phrasing, but it's essentially like minetest_game
00:42 blaise_          but the way it is linked in, it just didn't work
00:42 blaise_          as far as cloning the tree
00:43 blaise_          also, I got villagers and villages playing nicely now
00:43 blaise_          you can log in to my server and have a full on conversation with the npc's in the spawn village
00:43 blaise_          ;D
00:44 blaise_          that was a interesting endevour to say the least
00:44 blaise_          I don't usually mess with advanced ai
00:44 Sketch2          you can chit-chat with 'em?
00:45 blaise_          yeah
00:45 blaise_          some of them sell stuff
00:45 blaise_          some of them just talk and stuff
00:45 blaise_          some of them wanna try and breed with you
00:45 blaise_          lol
00:45 Sketch2          impressive
00:46 Sketch2          trying to get this code on GitHub
00:46 blaise_          which choad?
00:46 Sketch2          I suck at it, so it'll a min
00:46 Sketch2          huh?
00:46 Sketch2          oh code?
00:47 blaise_          oh, yeah.. sorry
00:47 Sketch2          uh, the craptastic code I got so far wor my paradroid subgame
00:47 blaise_          nice
00:48 Sketch2          it totally blows, but it's fun to run around at eye-level with mice and slaughter 'em with a crossbow
00:50 blaise_          thats kinda weird
00:56 MrBlueEyes       Sorry I went afk
00:59 blaise_          me too
00:59 blaise_          lol
01:03 MrBlueEyes       Lol
01:03 MrBlueEyes       Btw how are you
01:04 blaise_          me?!
01:04 blaise_          I'm okay I guess
01:04 blaise_          MrBlueEyes: do I know you?
01:07 blaise_          MrBlueEyes: how are you?
01:07 MrBlueEyes       blaise U play minetest yes, and what servers
01:07 blaise_          MrBlueEyes: further more, would you log on to my minetest server and tell me if you feel that the game is acting funny to you?
01:08 blaise_          I only play on maybe one other server than my own
01:08 MrBlueEyes       It has been lagging a lot
01:08 blaise_          MrBlueEyes: my server?
01:08 MrBlueEyes       What server?
01:08 blaise_          midnightsystems.net:30000
01:09 MrBlueEyes       Hmm I think I played it hold on you online the server
01:09 Sketch2          I'll hop on for a few, this github thing can wait
01:10 blaise_          my drops mod for some reason isn't dropping
01:10 blaise_          lol
01:10 blaise_          everything else seems fairly normal though
01:11 blaise_          although now when I place stairs, they don't face the direction I'm expecting, now they only go down a specific way no matter what angle I place them at
01:12 blaise_          I believe it may have something to do with adding that roads modpack
01:14 MrBlueEyes       Lol I'm banned from that server idk why tho
01:23 blaise_          I didn't ban anyone
01:23 blaise_          lol
01:23 blaise_          let me look
01:26 blaise_          MrBlueEyes: what was your game nick
01:32 blaise_          I never saw a login attempt in the game log
01:33 blaise_          not from you, not recently
01:34 blaise_          MrBlueEyes: I don't even see a MrBlueEyes in the users list
01:38 MrBlueEyes       I tried to join.
01:40 blaise_          what is the name you are trying to log in with?
01:41 blaise_          MrBlueEyes: Hello?!
01:41 MrBlueEyes       MrBlueEyes
01:41 blaise_          you're not in the userlist at all
01:41 blaise_          you can't be banned
01:42 MrBlueEyes       Sorry km on Dark Lands helping someone
01:43 blaise_          the only way you are being refused connection is if you hit my imaps, pop3s, or ssh ports too many times with a bad password.. in which case sshguard would automagicly add your ip to the blacklist
01:43 blaise_          ip's in the blacklist expire after 24 hours
01:44 blaise_          the next time that ip ends up blacklisted it's two weeks
01:44 MrBlueEyes       O.o
01:45 blaise_          if you end up in the blacklist the third time it's permablacklisted and your ip is forwarded to several lists containing ip addresses that do continuous ssl auth attacks
01:45 blaise_          but sshguard doesn't monitor port 30000
01:45 blaise_          and to my knolege minetest doesnt use ssl
01:46 MrBlueEyes       Okay imma find your server
01:47 blaise_          you don't have to find it, you already know the address to it
01:47 blaise_          all I did was install sshguard and snort
01:48 MrBlueEyes       I figured it out ik what I did
01:48 MrBlueEyes       Logging in
01:48 blaise_          sshguard handles all the temp stuff while snort handles long term.. snort also is what forwards offending ip addresses to other sites that have larger lists of attacking ip addresses so people can protect themselves from attackers
01:48 blaise_          ah
01:48 MrBlueEyes       Okay
01:48 blaise_          what did you do?
01:49 blaise_          I don't believe you were trying to log in to my server
01:49 blaise_          lol
01:49 MrBlueEyes       midnightsystems.net:30000.   <---- instead of that I put midnightsystem.jet:30000
01:49 blaise_          ah
01:49 blaise_          lmao
01:50 MrBlueEyes       I agree XD
01:50 MrBlueEyes       It's loading so slow DX
01:51 blaise_          sorry
01:51 blaise_          it's a pretty fast server, idk
01:51 MrBlueEyes       It's okay and k
01:51 MrBlueEyes       U online
01:52 blaise_          remote_media = http://minetestmedia.foo-projects.org/
01:52 blaise_          I have that in minetest.conf to try and make media load faster
01:52 MrBlueEyes       K
01:52 blaise_          but if their server is slow then maybe I should remove it
01:53 MrBlueEyes       And there we go I crashed
01:53 MrBlueEyes       DX
01:53 blaise_          how did you crash?
01:54 blaise_          wtf?
01:54 blaise_          I don't understand
01:56 MrBlueEyes       I'm on a tablet, and I'm on the IRC on my phone
01:56 MrBlueEyes       Oh hey redblade. Sorry I haven't been on your server
01:57 blaise_          lol
01:57 MrBlueEyes       What?
01:59 MrBlueEyes       Brb
02:02 blaise_          yeah, there's no way that android client is stable enough to play
02:02 blaise_          lol
02:09 Sketch2          minetestmedia was fast
02:24 blaise_          was it?
02:24 blaise_          maybe they just don't have the mods I have
02:24 blaise_          or maybe they're just not fast anymore?
02:27 Sketch2          huh, I mean when I logged in
02:27 blaise_          to any server that uses it?
02:27 Sketch2          it was quick enough as I'd expect
02:27 blaise_          or my server?
02:28 blaise_          I don't even know how to find out what mods they support... I tried to look at their website and it just forwarded me to the forums topic about using their media server..
02:29 Sketch2          I thought your stuff gets uploaded to their site when you register
02:29 blaise_          register to what?
02:29 Sketch2          then users can get it from them, instead of lagging your game
02:29 blaise_          what site?
02:29 blaise_          it literally says to just add their server to the minetest.conf
02:29 blaise_          and to request for mods to be added
02:30 Sketch2          yea, I think it's all automatic
02:30 blaise_          but no list of mods already added
02:30 Sketch2          it sorta logs in once to your server to get everything
02:30 blaise_          eh, no..
02:30 blaise_          I don't think it does
02:31 Sketch2          dunno, I thought that's what the point of it was
02:32 Sketch2          maybe it's just some of 'em then
02:32 Sketch2          default ones or whatnot
02:32 blaise_          they also state that what ever they don't have, the client will automagicly revert to downloading from the server it's connecting to
02:32 Sketch2          if you wanna shoot mice straight in the face with a laser crossbow-   https://github.com/doyousketch2/paradroid_mt
02:32 blaise_          but the forum topic seems dead
02:33 blaise_          last post was in january 2016
02:33 Sketch2          nowhere near done, but having a blast developing it
02:34 Sketch2          gonna get a snack, then crash out to something simple on YouTube
02:34 blaise_          lol
02:34 blaise_          no pluto tv?
02:35 Sketch2          dunno what that is
02:35 blaise_          it's a free streaming service
02:35 blaise_          it's not terrible..
02:35 blaise_          on occasion they have good movies..
02:37 blaise_          they have an android app, and a chrome plugin
02:37 blaise_          I believe they even have a windows pc client too but I don't use it
02:38 blaise_          they have cnet, IGN
02:38 blaise_          lots of news networks that everyone has heard of
02:38 blaise_          bunches of movie networks
02:38 blaise_          and a rather long list of on demand feeds you can watch
02:39 blaise_          pretty impressive for a free service..
02:49 Sketch2          oh wow, heh.  do they stream SNL?
02:51 blaise_          idk..
02:51 blaise_          maybe
02:55 blaise_          what is snl?
02:55 Sketch2          Saturday Night Live
02:56 blaise_          it probably airs on one of the channels
03:33 MrBlueEyes       Sooo
03:46 blaise_          ?
03:48 MrBlueEyes       I'm bored
03:48 blaise_          join my server?
03:48 blaise_          there are TONS of things to do
03:49 blaise_          you could go hunting,
03:49 blaise_          you could go kill mobs
03:49 blaise_          you could farm
03:49 blaise_          build a house
03:49 blaise_          an accurate to appearance house, thanks to homedecor mod
03:49 blaise_          =D
03:50 blaise_          you can have a bbq, or bake cakes
03:50 blaise_          and you could create a store to sell your goods in
04:21 blaise_          wow
04:22 blaise_          guess you're not that bored, eh?
06:34 blaise_          hrmm
06:35 blaise_          so the guy that wrote villagers mod states that he wants a lightweight multiplayer interactive npc experience
06:35 blaise_          yet the damn thing crashes all over the place
06:36 blaise_          so you do, interact on a multiplayer level.. when you try to talk to the villagers, it crashes the server and kicks everyone off
06:36 blaise_          lol
06:36 blaise_          awesome
06:39 lumberJ          well it does give a fair warning on the forum page that it is wip
06:40 lumberJ          and to expect crashes
06:48 blaise_          yeah
06:48 blaise_          I think he died or something though
06:49 blaise_          going on 6 months since last commit
06:49 lumberJ          or perhaps he got a life :P
06:50 blaise_          paramat: hello
06:50 blaise_          a life?
06:50 lumberJ          hello paramat
06:50 lumberJ          a real life (not modding)
06:50 blaise_          so you're saying no one that does anything with minecraft has a life?
06:50 lumberJ          i'm joking of course
06:50 blaise_          oh
06:51 blaise_          I suppose life does happen
06:51 lumberJ          hence the :P emoji
06:51 lumberJ          indeed
06:51 blaise_          for all we know, he could be in prison
06:53 blaise_          or completely overwhelmed by the octomom
09:39 Sketch2          'ello
09:50 blaise_          wat
09:50 blaise_          lol
09:50 * blaise_        attaches an angry badger to the side of Sketch2
09:51 * blaise_        stabs Sketch2 with a sharpened frozen hotdog
09:51 Sketch2          o_O
09:51 blaise_          lol
09:52 blaise_          Sketch2: what's up?
09:52 Sketch2          not much, just waking up
09:52 blaise_          you slept?
09:52 blaise_          I
09:52 blaise_          how?
09:53 Sketch2          I only sleep a couple hours at a time
09:53 blaise_          I've been playing with zsh since, idk..
09:53 blaise_          still couldn't get it the way I wanted it
09:54 blaise_          I should probably get some sleep, but I forgot
09:54 blaise_          it's saturday morning though, right?
09:54 Sketch2          what's zsh?  the people
09:54 Sketch2          soilent green?
09:54 blaise_          lol
09:55 blaise_          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Z_shell
09:56 blaise_          bash is ok
09:57 blaise_          I get tired of it sometimes though and I need a change
09:57 Sketch2          I think I've used it in the past, there's a bunch of 'em.  fish was one
09:57 blaise_          fish is,
09:57 * blaise_        stabs Sketch2 with another hotdog just for mentioning fish
09:58 * twoelk         heads to the logs
10:02 blaise_          becuase two elk, are better than one.
10:03 Sketch2          brings out the possibilities
10:04 Sketch2          of babies or battles, or both, as the case may be
10:13 * twoelk         listens as E.S.Posthumus music highlights the limits of his current sound setup :-(
10:41 Vapalus          what does minetest.get_node_timer(pos):start(1.0) do exactly?
10:48 Sketch2          it's for intermittent stuff-  http://dev.minetest.net/NodeTimerRef
10:48 Sketch2          say like mesecons
10:50 Sketch2          in that case, it stars a timer which will trigger the node's on_timer function after 1 second
10:53 Vapalus          Ah, and with minetest.get_node_timer(pos):start(2.0) it's 2 seconds, and with minetest.get_node_timer(pos):start(0.0001) its ASAP
10:53 Vapalus          thanks
10:53 Sketch2          lols, yep.  guess so
12:05 paramat          does anyone know of a mod that is an example of how to get positions of decorations from 'gennotify'?
12:10 Vapalus          You mean, something like "check the whole server and tell me where objects of this kind are"?
12:11 Vapalus          Or more like "check the volume and count/store objects of this kind"
12:11 Shara            Vapalus: it would be to get the pos of things placed by register_decoration on mapgen
12:12 paramat          'gennotify' returns positions of certian structures for the mapchunk just generated
12:12 paramat          *certain
12:21 Vapalus          ah, so "gennotify" is actually a function, sorry, misread that.
12:21 Vapalus          event
12:22 Sketch2          line 620 or thereabouts has 'detect treasure'  https://github.com/duane-r/booty/blob/master/init.lua
12:23 Sketch2          I don't think that's exactly what you're looking for, but it sounds close
12:24 Shara            Looked at that last night
12:25 Sketch2          do you mean for the whole map, after it's been generated?
12:25 Shara            No
12:25 Sketch2          or as it occurs?
12:25 Shara            The first time something is placed on the map
12:25 Sketch2          ok yeah, that's how it's supposed to be
12:26 Shara            So if you are using register_decoration to placed... let's say a flower, the goal is to get the pos of each flower placed the first time a mapblock is generated
12:26 Shara            place*
12:26 Shara            The aim is actually to trigger a node timer
12:28 Sketch2          why is it github's search sux?
12:29 Shara            because github
12:29 Sketch2          yeah, they got a few issues
12:30 Sketch2          like the web-upload only allows 100 items at a time
12:30 Sketch2          and it ignores the 'gitignore'
12:31 Sketch2          of all the people in the world, how could they miss it?  that's like git 101.
12:32 Vapalus          i just got register_abm, that's it.
12:33 Shara            Definitely don't want an ABM for this
12:34 Vapalus          no, i generate a whole new area
12:34 Vapalus          replacing everything
12:36 Sketch2          you just want to know how to get it to pop-up the message when it generates something?
12:36 Sketch2          https://github.com/minetest-mods/loot/blob/master/dungeon.lua
12:36 Sketch2          that seems to be as basic as it gets
12:36 Shara            That's "dungeon"
12:36 Shara            Dungeon is easy
12:36 Shara            Decoration doesn't work like that
12:37 Sketch2          oh, no?  I thought they were
12:37 Shara            Need an example where set_gen_notify specifically gives "decoration"
12:37 Sketch2          ok, I'll look a bit more
12:37 Shara            Thank you. I spent quite some time looking for things already but not having much luck
12:38 Shara            Decorations seem to have an id that other things don't for this... so it's probably different somehow
12:39 Sketch2          saw this on Reddit earlier today, seems kinda relevant right now-  https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/7zu1jh/what_people_think_programming_is_vs_how_it/
13:09 Sketch2          I have a feeling  minetest.register_decoration()  only takes the parameters requested
13:10 Sketch2          and you can't redefine it, cuz it's underlying C++ code
13:10 Shara            This isn't about redefining register_decoration
13:10 Sketch2          you want a printout when the function fires
13:11 Sketch2          but the function doesn't give the option
13:11 Shara            which should already be possible to capture through gennotiy
13:11 Shara            gennotify*
13:11 Shara            It doesn't need to be in register_decoration
13:12 Shara            The docs already claim "decoration" can be captured by gennotify
13:13 Shara            So in theory you'd use set_gen_notify then get_mapgen_object("gennotify") within register_on_generated
13:13 Shara            "in theory"
13:26 Sketch2          so yea, just like dungeon.lua, but it doesn't huh?
13:27 Shara            Pretty much
13:27 Shara            I tested using: minetest.set_gen_notify({decoration = true, dungeon = true})
13:27 Shara            Then dumping gennotify did give me dungeon positions, but not decoration
13:27 Shara            (this was with dungeon_loot mod disabled)
13:28 Sketch2          do you need name in quotes?  minetest.set_gen_notify("dungeon")
13:29 Sketch2          "key" = value
13:29 Shara            Since dungeon worked just liek that... I assume not, but I tried anyway
13:33 Sketch2          is 'decoration' a variable name that's being used elsewhere in the MT code?  maybe try naming it 'deco1' instead
13:36 Shara            It says to use "decoration" in the docs
13:36 Shara            If I put deco1 instead, I'd be making up something
13:37 Shara            gennotify is certainly not going to hold some random thing I made up
13:37 Sketch2          well yea, 'cuz you'd want your instance unique, I thought, but maybe I'm wrong on that point
13:38 Shara            well, there's the id I mentioned, but no idea what to do with it... which is why we were hoping for an example
13:38 Sketch2          like 'dungeon' just has a made up name, so long as it's consistent where referenced
13:39 Shara            Uhh, no, that's actually the name you're meant to use, which is why gennotify has it
13:39 Shara            This isn't about setting some random variable name
13:40 Shara            But anyway, will play around with it some more another time.
13:40 ravel981         hi all
13:41 ravel981         i'm trying to configure a minetest server
13:41 ravel981         do you have please a working conf file maybe ?
13:43 Shara            Tried reading through: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/minetest.conf.example ?
13:44 Shara            What your file should look like depends on a lot of things
13:45 ravel981         i'd like to have a minetest closed to minecraft way
13:45 Shara            I can't help with that since I've never played minecraft
13:45 Vapalus          I don't think LUA needs quotes
13:45 ravel981         thanks it workd (firewall problem)
13:45 Shara            :)
13:46 Vapalus          at least not there
13:46 Shara            Vapalus: look here: https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/blob/master/mods/dungeon_loot/mapgen.lua
13:46 Shara            This is in MTG, so this formatting is correct
13:47 Shara            And I've already said it does get me dungeon information when done this way
13:50 Sketch2          oh yea, guess Lua doesn't need quotes.  I always confuse it with Python.  Pretty sure over there ya do
13:53 Vapalus          in python, yes
13:55 reber            hey all
13:55 reber            hi ravel981 :)
13:55 reber            how to access the console please ?
13:56 reber            admin console of my minetest server
13:57 reber            my server is started with systemctl start ...
13:57 Sketch2          windows machine?
13:58 Sketch2          systemctl sounds linux'y  -can't ya just start it from a console?
14:00 reber            Sketch2, linux
14:00 reber            Sketch2, no i want to start it with systemctl
14:01 reber            https://wiki.minetest.net/Setting_up_a_server/Debian
14:01 reber            ^ like that
14:01 reber            but i'd like to access to the console once it's started
14:02 Sketch2          I know in windows you can edit minetest.conf   enable_console = true
14:02 Sketch2          I don't know if it has an effect in linux
14:02 Sketch2          you could try
14:05 Sketch2          there might be a commandline flag
14:05 Sketch2          or start it on another terminal, so you can switch to with with Ctrl-Alt-F1 or whatnot
14:06 Vapalus          sudo apt-get install screen
14:07 Vapalus          then run your server as console in screen
14:07 Vapalus          enables you to manage your server
14:08 Vapalus          pro: several servers as one user, in the same terminal
14:08 Sketch2          sounds good.  I was thinking   --default-standard-output=tty1
14:09 Vapalus          too complicated i think
14:09 Sketch2          then switch back & forth with Ctrl-Alt-F1 or F7
14:09 Sketch2          I agree
14:09 Sketch2          if you can do it in a window, that's better
14:11 reber            Vapalus, Sketch2  i'd really like to start it with systemctl and access to the console after that
14:11 Vapalus          screen
14:11 reber            I already have tmux
14:11 reber            and i don't want to start it with it :/
14:12 Vapalus          why not
14:12 fireglow         I don't think you can attach a --terminal to a running minetestserver
14:12 Vapalus          just a curious question
14:12 reber            sad
14:12 fireglow         either start it with --terminal, or have systemd/runit/etc handle the process
14:14 reber            and with the gui is it possible to access the console ?
14:15 reber            (sounds a weird question ...but  heh)
14:16 Vapalus          reber, why not screen...?
14:16 Sketch2          admin of server can use certain chat commands that others can't
14:16 reber            I don't know much about minetest, just admin it for the moment ;)
14:17 reber            Vapalus, because it's far less clean than using the system to start/stop daemons
14:17 Sketch2          systemctl --default-standard-output=tty1 start minetest-server
14:17 Vapalus          i run screen as a daemon
14:17 reber            Vapalus, can you imagine running mail running inside a tmux/screen ?
14:17 reber            Vapalus, can you imagine running apache running inside a tmux/screen ?
14:17 reber            no.
14:17 Sketch2          then switch to it, or keep a second monitor view of it
14:18 Vapalus          apache is not a game
14:18 Vapalus          you don't run minetest as root i presume
14:19 reber            Sketch2, thanks I will try that :)
14:19 reber            that's a good idea
14:19 Sketch2          you might be able to view tty1 from another computer if need be, or your phone
14:19 reber            yay good :)
14:21 Sketch2          Ctrl-Alt-F7  is your default desktop.  remember that
14:21 reber            thanks for you help / ideas
14:21 reber            Sketch2, yay course :)
14:29 Vapalus          ...i still don't get why you run something in an xserv terminal instead of a virtual terminal, but maybe that's just me being old
14:30 Vapalus          and since servers normally don't have xserv, I'm not used to that
14:33 Sketch2          I dunno.  I'd rather have it in a win as well
14:33 Sketch2          maybe he's a kid and trying to hide it in the background from his dad :P
15:36 Sketch2          reber, this might do if the other doesn't.    sudo journalctl -f -u minetestserver    it follows logs as they go
15:38 Sketch2          is there a dash between minetest-server?  thought it was one word
16:32 Calinou          Sketch2: the upstream binary, when compiled, is named minetestserver
16:32 Calinou          the Debian package is minetest-server though
16:32 Sketch2          oh, I always compiled it
16:34 Sketch2          not a biggie.  was just trying to do what he was talking about.  can't recall ever running it through systemctl
16:36 Calinou          I created a systemd service for my server
16:37 xerox123         https://i.imgur.com/IvvLzlm.png when trying to load bakedclay and stairsplus at the same time
16:37 Calinou          https://paste.ee/p/lsgCC
16:44 Sketch2          xerox123, do you get diff' results if you set one to require the other, so they load in a diff' order?
16:44 xerox123         oh, didnt think about that
16:47 xerox123         Sketch2: do you mean add bakedclay into stairplus' depends.txt?
16:47 xerox123         or vice versa
16:48 Sketch2          yeah, but it looks like bakedclay is looking for stairs   https://github.com/tenplus1/bakedclay/blob/master/depends.txt
16:48 Sketch2          does stairsplus give uh, what'dotheycallem...
16:48 Sketch2          where you rename stuff
16:49 Sketch2          aliases for stairs
16:51 xerox123         I think my issue is that moreblocks contains stairsplus and circular saw
16:52 xerox123         https://github.com/minetest-mods/moreblocks/blob/master/stairsplus/init.lua#L61
16:55 Sketch2          https://github.com/tenplus1/bakedclay/blob/master/init.lua    line 45    if minetest.get_modpath("moreblocks") and stairsplus then
16:55 Sketch2          so it obviously knows what stairsplus is
16:56 Sketch2          can you just tell bakedclay to require stairsplus instead?
17:06 xerox123         seemed to create a loop lol
17:06 xerox123         2018-02-24 17:05:13: ERROR[Main]: mod "bakedclay" has unsatisfied dependencies:  "stairsplus"
17:06 xerox123         2018-02-24 17:05:13: ERROR[Main]: mod "circularsaw" has unsatisfied dependencies:  "stairsplus"
17:06 xerox123         2018-02-24 17:05:13: ERROR[Main]: mod "stairsplus" has unsatisfied dependencies:  "bakedclay"
17:08 xerox123         this is just making me want to revert all the changes and go back to when it worked
17:10 Sketch2          woah, that's unexpected
17:15 Vapalus          what comes round, comes round
17:15 Sketch2          who made moreblocks, that's a Calinou mod?  any ideas how to resolve stairsplus?
17:15 Sketch2          which stairsplus is it, there's a couple aren't there?
17:16 Vapalus          so circular dependencies are not possible - thats kinda good to know.
17:16 Sketch2          oh, it comes with it.  backedclay is skewed
17:19 xerox123         I remember having both working just fine a while ago
17:25 Calinou          stairsplus is part of moreblocks
17:31 xerox123         is there a way I can just take it out?
17:32 xerox123         because bakedclay doesnt seem to like it
17:32 xerox123         not even sure if that would fix it
17:35 Sketch2          maybe baked  depends.txt  should say   stairs?
17:42 xerox123         let me try
17:46 xerox123         Sketch2: it works
17:46 xerox123         !!
17:47 xerox123         still can't cut bakedclay though
17:47 Sketch2          oh cool, that was truly just a guess.  does the mod still do as expected?
17:47 xerox123         I see two circular saws in the inventory
17:47 Sketch2          eh.  who made that one, tenplus1?
17:48 xerox123         yes
17:49 Sketch2          I'd find him on the forum, or post a comment on the github-  https://github.com/tenplus1/bakedclay/issues
17:49 Sketch2          detail what happened, and see if he has any input
17:52 xerox123         ok
18:24 blaise           lol
19:43 blaise           Sketch2: you sleepin?
19:43 Vapalus          almost
19:44 Vapalus          sorry, wrong chat
19:44 Vapalus          still, i got a question
19:44 Vapalus          local nodetimer = minetest.get_node_timer(pos) --inevitable timer 	nodetimer:start(1.0)
19:44 Vapalus          "nodetimer:start" is in another line
19:44 Vapalus          that should trigger on_timer = tribikos_node_timer,
19:45 Vapalus          right?
19:45 sfan5            eventually
19:46 Vapalus          because for some reason, it ignores me
19:46 Vapalus          normally only women ingore me...
19:46 sfan5            !api
19:46 MinetestBot      Someone thinks you should read the API docs, please go to: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt
19:46 sfan5            should have more info
19:47 blaise           how do we determin how much traction a digtron has, ?
20:38 Vapalus          god, i'm stupid, i solved the timer problem I think
20:38 Vapalus          I defined the nodetypes before I created the function
20:38 Vapalus          bad vibes
20:42 honeybooboochild howdy y'all
20:42 honeybooboochild i just got done eatin my sgetti and need help makin mods
20:43 Vapalus          first tip, don't drink and develop, that's how Windows Vista was made
20:43 honeybooboochild ain't nobody here?
20:43 blaise           nope
20:44 blaise           Vapalus: I thought that was Windows ME ?
20:44 honeybooboochild drink and develope is how my sister got done knocked up when she only 14
20:45 Vapalus          isn't mine, i promise
20:45 honeybooboochild y'all developin? i done got my boobies when i was 5
20:45 honeybooboochild cause i'm fat
20:46 Vapalus          dude, u aint got boobs, u got moobs
20:46 Sketch2          lols
20:46 Vapalus          conversations like this (and lots of cocaine) are why I'm insane
20:47 honeybooboochild who want to host my server?
20:47 red-001          https://xkcd.com/323/
20:47 red-001          I believe the technical term is "relevent xkcd"
20:47 honeybooboochild honeybooboo best server
20:47 BillyS           heh
20:48 Vapalus          that's how i got my girlfriend
20:49 Vapalus          "I'm the best"
20:49 honeybooboochild shhoot
20:49 Vapalus          that's it
20:49 honeybooboochild ain't nobody helpin me up in here
20:50 * red-001        wonders how long does it take for someone to realise no-one is going to host thier server
20:50 honeybooboochild someone done up and scan ports honeybooboochild
20:51 honeybooboochild wha da?!
20:52 Vapalus          local pos2 = {x = pos.X, y = pos.Y + 1, z = pos.Z}
20:52 NathanS21        Who do you want to pay to host your server? Lots of sites exist for that.
20:52 honeybooboochild red, nobody will host?
20:52 Vapalus          I think I goofed.
20:52 honeybooboochild nathan who do?
20:52 Vapalus          just look at it. I goofed.
20:52 Sketch2          I'll host it, for a penny per second
20:52 NathanS21        The internet is full of hosting sites. just search for VPS
20:53 sfan5            Vapalus: that stuff is case sensitive, pos.X is not the same as pos.x
20:53 NathanS21        anything that can run a docker container could theoretically run Minetest
20:54 honeybooboochild i cant find good deal nathan, what you recommend good price and 4 gb mem?
20:54 Vapalus          sfan5: I know. That's what I was talking about.
20:54 Vapalus          One of those errors where you want to run into a chainsaw while laughing like a maniac.
20:54 NathanS21        I've never hosted a server, wouldn't know what a good price would be, look around, and see what is out there.
20:55 honeybooboochild there seem like some host are scammers
20:55 NathanS21        Well stay away from those. :)
20:56 honeybooboochild i read lowendbox review and dem some self post, fake review
20:56 honeybooboochild i hope some nerd will host for free
20:57 honeybooboochild they all got fast computers
20:57 NathanS21        uhh, not likely, and more than just a fast computer is needed to host a good server.
20:57 honeybooboochild thats why i came here, sooner or later only takes 1 nerd
20:58 red-001          no one is going to host your server
20:58 honeybooboochild honeybooboo server will be good
20:58 Vapalus          Hm, are you american?
20:59 red-001          its an american ip
20:59 honeybooboochild maybe so red you ain't nobody momma
21:00 honeybooboochild yeah im usa as you already know mr port scannin monkey
21:00 red-001          can someone just kick this guy?
21:01 NathanS21        I think you mean girl....
21:01 honeybooboochild i want my server hostin in russia
21:01 NathanS21        contact somebody in the Russian Mafia, they have resources. :D
21:01 Vapalus          well, Trump wants America to be Russian, guess it fits
21:01 honeybooboochild kick me, why for?
21:01 Vapalus          spam, begging
21:02 red-001          can someone just kick this member of the homo sapiens species that's using freenode webirc*
21:02 honeybooboochild nah trump aint all rissian lovin, done bombed them soilders 2 time
21:03 honeybooboochild i aint done it
21:04 honeybooboochild well then
21:08 red-045          hello Raven262
21:08 Raven262         Hello red
21:17 Vapalus          ok, bye
23:05 MrBlueEyes       Excuse me, anyone else having a problem with talking and moving on servers
23:11 sfan5            sounds like a server problem
23:12 Shara            MrBlueEyes: is this the issue you were having on DL that Tommy reported to me?
23:13 Shara            From what he said, no one else could duplicate it.
23:13 MrBlueEyes       Yes Shara it is my account on DL
23:13 Shara            I have no idea what could cause a single account to have issues like this
23:14 Shara            Could you try and explain the issue as precisely as possible?
23:14 MrBlueEyes       Idk ether it's making me angry, and yeah I'll explain what happened.
23:16 rubenwardy       it's likely to be something with your internet connection, if it's only you
23:16 rubenwardy       maybe a firewall or packet loss
23:16 Shara            rubenwardy: from what I was told, it only happened on his main account, and not any time he used a different one
23:16 rubenwardy       oh, odd
23:16 rubenwardy       do you have anything large in your inventory? Like big books
23:16 Shara            Yea... I don't even know where to start troubleshooting that
23:17 rubenwardy       and mods which could be holding lots of data
23:17 rubenwardy       or maybe near end of the world?
23:17 rubenwardy       probably not any of those, but they're the only things I can think of
23:17 rubenwardy       that could be different per player
23:17 Shara            Well, if it's an edge of the world issue, he's on his own. I'm not helping anyone who pointlessly grew the mapsize :P
23:17 rubenwardy       or privs
23:19 MrBlueEyes       Me Darksoul, Seth06, and Slashstone where at Darksoul's shop, we where sitting in the chairs there  then  I went to climb down a ladder the my character wouldnt move from the spot, so Darksoul killed me which didn't work after a minute Tommy came and tried to fix it, he teleported me to different spots to see if it was the problem but wasn't, I tried my brothers account which worked fine, but the tried Mine. But still wouldn't
23:20 MrBlueEyes       - I tried official and non-official apps as well
23:20 Shara            And did you try both account son the same device?
23:21 MrBlueEyes       Yes
23:21 MrBlueEyes       And my brothers account worked
23:21 MrBlueEyes       So I'm confused about it
23:21 Shara            So yours simply couldn't move at all?
23:23 Lone-Star        MrBlueEyes: this on a phone or tablet?
23:24 Shara            MrBlueEyes: Have you sat down in a chair or something and then it wsa dug without you moving from it?
23:24 MrBlueEyes_      Whoops sorry, I didn't mean to leave
23:24 Shara            was*
23:24 MrBlueEyes_      No, not when i glitched, after the fact Tommy and my friend Slash stone did
23:25 Shara            All I can think of is the player being attached to something...
23:26 MrBlueEyes_      Okay, but after a while it started letting me move around,  like a hour. But then it stopped working.
23:26 Shara            Anyone have any ideas?
23:27 MrBlueEyes_      Could we try removing every priv from the account then adding them back
23:28 Shara            That won't do anything
23:28 MrBlueEyes_      Okay I got nothing besides playing a new account
23:29 Shara            Maybe someone can suggest something. I've alreayd checked to see if I can spot something with the account, but there's nothing obvious
23:29 MrBlueEyes_      Okay
23:29 Lone-Star        is there a way to delete player data from server?
23:30 Lone-Star        if the player data is corrupt, deleting it may help
23:31 Shara            I don't see  what could be wrong with the player data to randomly prevent movement
23:31 Shara            And then only sometimes.
23:32 MrBlueEyes_      Imma go and hop on my account and try to figure it out
23:32 Shara            Okay, sorry I don't have any other ideas for now
23:33 MrBlueEyes_      Okay I'll stay in the irc for a while
23:35 MrBlueEyes_      Okay my account is working for now