Time Nick Message 03:46 Emerald2 Are fireflies:hidden_firefly invisible or something? 03:48 Emerald2 And why does ethereal keep putting jungles right next to the snowblock biome? Would have thought the temperature values would be too far apart. 05:05 Emerald2 For context, I'm trying to figure out why a server with ethereal mapgen has barely any fireflies. 09:03 river can i see some machines and automated systems that have been built in modded minetest? 09:27 independent56 go to any survival server, river 09:29 independent56 i think that map.sqlite should be capped at ~50 MB, as it gets large, and hard for operations like ZIP. might as well make a seperate database for each mapblock, or at leasta different table for each mapblock 09:33 cheapie $ du -hs map.db 09:33 cheapie 75G map.db 09:33 cheapie Hmm... :P 09:39 MTDiscord 50 MB is nothing on a server...that's like generating 1 path way (okay maybe a bit more than that) 09:42 comrad my minetester server hast around 162M and the mineclone2 world has 149M 09:42 independent56 me too 09:42 independent56 my worlds i play on tend to be quite large... meh. 09:43 independent56 i guess i have to live with the zip command putting a progress bar on map.sqlite 09:43 cheapie Could always switch it to leveldb if it bothers you that much - that backend does split things up. 09:43 comrad we use borg for backup, the whole backup takes around 9s 09:44 comrad independent56: or put the world into a database like postgres 09:44 MinetestBot 02[git] 04SmallJoker -> 03minetest/minetest: UnitSAO: Prevent circular attachments 135bf7246 https://git.io/JGGSu (152021-05-29T09:44:48Z) 09:44 MinetestBot 02[git] 04Wuzzy2 -> 03minetest/minetest: Fix cloud fog being broken for high clouds 13ff48619 https://git.io/JGGSz (152021-05-29T09:44:31Z) 09:45 independent56 hmm 09:45 independent56 idrc 09:45 independent56 long backups are fine, crontab runs them a 20:00, and my main picks it up at 21:30 09:45 independent56 i have like an hour and a half to make the backups 09:46 cheapie It's not really clear to me what the problem with large files really is, anyway - surely nobody is trying to run a Minetest server with a >4GB world on Windows 98 or something. 09:46 cheapie ...mostly because if they were, that person would probably be me, and I haven't done that :P 09:46 MinetestBot 02[git] 04Wuzzy2 -> 03minetest/minetest: Fix misleading /shutdown command syntax 13d7a4479 https://git.io/JGGSy (152021-05-29T09:45:04Z) 09:47 independent56 lol 09:47 independent56 im running on a 2009 computer running bodhi linux and i have 200 gb of drive space 09:48 independent56 and it is free, my parents pay the wifi and electricity costs of running the server 09:48 independent56 "free hosting does not exist" lies. i said lies. 09:48 cheapie Linux on any sane FS (FAT32 doesn't count as sane) will handle the file sizes involved in any reasonable MT world fine. 09:48 independent56 lol yeah 09:48 independent56 "reasonable" 09:49 cheapie ext4 in particular can handle 16TiB files - if your MT world is hitting that then you have some problems, and sqlite probably has limits lower than that too. 09:52 MTDiscord Are there instructions on building for Android? Nothing in the README. 09:53 sfan5 buidld/android/README 09:53 sfan5 build* 09:55 MTDiscord @sfan5 That file doesn't exist. Is it somewhere else? 09:55 MTDiscord Oh! 09:55 sfan5 huh I'm pretty sure we had that 09:55 MTDiscord doc/README.android 09:56 MTDiscord Thanks. ? 09:56 comrad btw, we set up our minetest and mineclone2 server with podman / docker. Is the dockerfile interesting enough for the wiki? and/or might a systemd service unit be interesting for the wiki? 10:20 Emerald2 IMO more info about setting up minetest servers is always good. 10:44 comrad okay 11:38 MTDiscord Since I don't have a verisign key, I can only build "debug" apks, right? Other than being signed, is the debug package any different? 11:38 MTDiscord *other than NOT being signed... 11:39 sfan5 not really 11:39 MTDiscord Oh good. 11:40 MTDiscord No performance differencs? 11:40 MTDiscord *differences 11:41 sfan5 nope 11:41 sfan5 the C++ code is compiled exactly the same even 11:43 MTDiscord Okay, thanks. 11:59 celeron55 it's just that users can't install it on top of the existing minetest app 11:59 celeron55 if the key isn't the same 12:39 comrad is it still necessary to ask for an account on the wiki? my username in the forum is "comrad" 12:56 MTDiscord independent56: your parents still pay, so it isn't free 12:56 MTDiscord also note that running a server might make you liable if something happens, say it becomes part of a botnet 12:57 Noisytoot dev.minetest.net's certificate has expired 14:43 MTDiscord Noisytoot: it has already been mentioned several times... 14:52 sfan5 maybe bringing it up until it's fixed is the right strategy ;) 20:25 rubenwardy AntumDeluge: apks are always self signed, you don't need to pay for a cert 21:08 independent56 i wish that normal advtrains signals had a yellow aspect 21:08 independent56 for "danger at the next signal", just like british ones 21:08 independent56 notanewbie has left 21:43 MTDiscord independent56: real Ks signals also use the yellow aspect for "expect to stop at the next signal", except distant signals are a bit complicated to implement 22:49 ilomiglio Is there a client mod for torch illumination? At least the server won't render the illumination for all 22:53 sfan5 there isn't 22:53 ilomiglio I see