Time  Nick          Message
00:35 erlehmann     MisterE what do you want to do?
01:04 MTDiscord     <exe_virus> Nice, gj independent 56! I actually know what it took to get that working haha
01:42 MTDiscord     <MisterE> just curious... one use case would be to make an object-based menu
01:42 MTDiscord     <MisterE> inworld, like a floating ui
01:42 MTDiscord     <MisterE> but just visible to one player
02:04 MTDiscord     <Jonathon> you can already do that with dynamic media
11:13 sfan5         dynamic media is not the fix for everything
11:13 sfan5         anyway: yes the server could send an entity to just a single player
11:36 MTDiscord     <SX> maybe sending entities to just selected players would be a samll step towards network bubbles too
13:06 MTDiscord     <Jonathon> May not be the fix for everything, but you can do it
14:17 GNUHacker     Ive this server crash: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/8452
14:37 MTDiscord     <SX> I've fixed this "engine feature" on few mods, player is available but not complete anymore.
14:38 MTDiscord     <SX> So player variable check passes, also methods do work but return crap
14:40 MTDiscord     <SX> Basically if not player or not player:is_player() then is not enough, you have to check every access. This however happens only during certain specific circumstances and I've not investigated root cause so no idea but I've verified that for example player instance is valid, it has methods but for one player:get_meta() returns nil
14:41 MTDiscord     <SX> Basically player instance is available but engine does not anymore have complete data, player instance is crippled.
14:41 rubenwardy    did the player leave?
14:41 rubenwardy    The reference may have been invalidated
14:41 rubenwardy    this shouldn't happen during a callback though
14:41 MTDiscord     <SX> https://github.com/minetest-mods/stamina/pull/38
14:41 rubenwardy    only when storing a player ref and using it eg: in minetest.after
14:41 MTDiscord     <SX> There's one of those fixes
14:42 rubenwardy    yeah, that's an invalid ref
14:42 MTDiscord     <SX> As I said I've not investigated but it seems to only happen during entity step
14:43 sfan5         players do not have an entity step tho
14:43 MTDiscord     <SX> They don't but you can look for players during entity step.
14:44 sfan5         true
14:45 sfan5         it'll depend on how you're doing that
14:45 MTDiscord     <SX> Oh actually also possibly another place: on punch callbacks
14:46 MTDiscord     <SX> And it happened multiple times when CSM crashed client, but I've no idea about CSM code
15:06 GNUHacker     This is a bug that cause many server crashes (server version 5.4.1), dont close this issue: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/8452
15:16 sfan5         the issue reporter says it does not happen anymore and the steps in the issue are not enough
15:16 sfan5         if you can still reproduce it you can open a new issue with reproduction steps
15:26 MTDiscord     <SX> On that issue wondering what "async callback involved" actually means... if it is keeping ref in variable and using through minetest.after or similar then it is invalid.
15:32 independent56 TFW your servers are on the bottom of the list?
15:34 independent56 https://imgur.com/a/zFybxe2
15:36 sfan5         they'll go up if you leave them online for an hour or something
15:37 independent56 Nice! i was using data from last morning before it refreshed. Look at where they are now: https://imgur.com/a/dKpWzIH
15:41 independent56 Where did that forum post discussing server rankings go?
15:51 GNUHacker     sfan5, I what server version "dont happend anymore"? In in 5.4.1
20:15 independent56 What is the most effective downwards way to mine? I need diamonds at -1024, but i am only at  -265. Do i continue my 2*1 hole?
20:18 independent56 I will use water instead of a ladder
20:19 independent56 Ooh, it has better stopping power
20:21 erlehmann     independent56 minetest does not check downwards falling speed. get a cheat client and an autominer, that is the most efficient.
20:21 independent56 I'm on a singleplayer game; i donot want to cheat
20:21 Pexin         manipulate worldgen. this is Best Way
20:21 independent56 I am getting diamonds for digtron, my preferred auominet
20:24 erlehmann     independent56 are you on linux?
20:24 Pexin         landscape composed entirely of diamondblock, and no materials to make adequate pickax
20:24 erlehmann     hahaha
20:25 erlehmann     independent56, with the linux program xdotool you can make minetest think that you are holding the mouse button continuously
20:25 erlehmann     then just sit back and relax
20:25 erlehmann     i mined a bunch of obsidian that way a few days ago lol
20:25 Pexin         until you eeach a tall empty cavern andSPLAT
20:26 Pexin         or pickax breaks
20:31 independent56 Or you leave the IRC out of fustration
20:33 erlehmann     lol