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sfan5 |
merging #17721, #17615 in 15m |
| 12:13 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/issues/17721 -- [no sq] Floating point precision issue related fixes by appgurueu |
| 12:13 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/issues/17615 -- [don't squash] Some refactoring + Lua CLI proof of concept by sfan5 |
| 12:17 |
sfan5 |
so I've been wondering: do we consider #17718 to be in violation of https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/blob/master/doc/developing/ai_policy.md? |
| 12:17 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/issues/17718 -- Separate align_style for overlay tiles by andriyndev |
| 12:17 |
sfan5 |
the policy says "Generating substantial amounts of code with AI is strongly discouraged and [...]. AI assistance may always be used for simple tasks, such as [...]". |
| 12:18 |
sfan5 |
comparing that to "AI was used to generate the initial version, which was then carefully reviewed and improved manually." makes me tend towards it not being allowed |
| 12:20 |
MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> It says discouraged, not banned |
| 12:23 |
MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> If anything, something like https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/pull/17733 and most likely un disclosed ai and just a giant all in one should be closed |
| 12:23 |
sfan5 |
it should but that's not the point |
| 12:24 |
sfan5 |
the point is where to draw the line between "discouraged" and "banned" |
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MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> Useful and slop |
| 12:25 |
sfan5 |
looking at #17352 it was worded like this to give the us coredevs leeway to decide, but I'm wondering on what basis we should be deciding |
| 12:25 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/issues/17352 -- Proposal: Luanti generative AI policy by v-rob |
| 12:25 |
sfan5 |
(the mentioned PR looks fine to me IMO) |
| 12:33 |
ZenonSeth |
other than what wsor said about useful vs slop, I thought part of the policy of discouraging is to avoid people opening too many big PRs frequently to avoid a case where everyone can put together some quick llm generate 1k-2k line PR every other day |
| 12:34 |
ZenonSeth |
i mean they don't even have to be big, just frequent llm generated PRs that are slop also contribute to that i think |
| 12:53 |
sfan5 |
sneakily merging #17722 too for good measure |
| 12:53 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/issues/17722 -- Android: throttle unzip progress updates so the completion signal isn't lost by 9LJ9 |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Zughy> Undisclosed should just lead to permaban imo |
| 13:02 |
[MatrxMT] |
<Zughy> As we're building community, not only software. A contributor not willing to admit to have used AI or not caring enough to read is not a contributor we want, I'd say |
| 13:02 |
[MatrxMT] |
<Zughy> Plus the waste of our time |
| 13:23 |
sfan5 |
will push this https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/commit/1140cdc8359404e8f15e2f7198b5cfaf7d4fe617 if it works |
| 13:43 |
sfan5 |
while the gcc_9 failure doesn't seem to be consistent it at least didn't fail with this commit |
| 13:43 |
sfan5 |
so I'll push |
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