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02:14 MTDiscord <mark.wiemer> ^ merged, continuing work on #181 today
02:26 MTDiscord <wsor4035> Nice
02:53 MTDiscord <wsor4035> i have totally not been distracted with wheel reinventing and learning go more
02:55 MTDiscord <grorp> Thank you btw. It's great to see the progress on the site, already seems a lot less messy than before
03:03 MTDiscord <wsor4035> fyi, updating the license file
03:12 MTDiscord <greenxenith> Spitball proposal: More consistent section naming along the lines of "Creator Resources" "Player Resources" "Server Resources" "Engine Resources" or similar
03:14 MTDiscord <greenxenith> lol, #197 was opened at the same minute I sent that
03:15 MTDiscord <greenxenith> (It makes the sections consistent, but I still think the "for x" phrasing is clunky)
03:15 MTDiscord <mark.wiemer> https://github.com/luanti-org/dev.luanti.org/pull/197, Organize server hosts and engine dev sections, ready for review
03:16 MTDiscord <mark.wiemer> I do like that naming scheme more πŸ™‚ gonna finish putting pages where we want them but seems like a very easy find and replace. If anyone is against, say so now!
03:16 MTDiscord <mark.wiemer> planning to merge #197 in ~22 hours
03:17 MTDiscord <greenxenith> I might be able to toss an approval your way
03:17 MTDiscord <greenxenith> Just finished scanning the changes, will go over again
03:17 MTDiscord <mark.wiemer> How far we've come... and only 144 apparent spelling mistakes left! Anyone remember how many there were on first run of this?
03:17 MTDiscord <mark.wiemer> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/926231483155378176/1342334412913643520/image.png?ex=67b941d7&amp;is=67b7f057&amp;hm=44b7775812ad6bd6b2424fd71038a9e8dd46c2c6faf2ba8a0ea91a1345d501b5&amp;
03:17 MTDiscord <greenxenith> A few thousand?
03:18 MTDiscord <wsor4035> ♾️
03:18 MTDiscord <greenxenith> Doesnt Objects belong in Engine?
03:18 MTDiscord <wsor4035> idk, you quoted 300+ at one point, but that was after you had been working on it
03:18 MTDiscord <mark.wiemer> The answer lies in https://github.com/luanti-org/dev.luanti.org/issues/83, and that was when we had just 86 files compared to today's 145
03:18 MTDiscord <greenxenith> Ye, thousands
03:20 MTDiscord <mark.wiemer> Remember "apparent" includes words like "minetest" and "luanti" and "appgurueu" that weren't in the original dictionary
03:20 MTDiscord <mark.wiemer> But yeah it was a mess, feels good to have annotations for this and slowly chip away at it πŸ™‚
03:20 MTDiscord <greenxenith> Also Protection being a stub could be thrown under For Players for now
03:21 MTDiscord <mark.wiemer> Probably? Scope creep is real, I've done my hour of work for the day, others are welcome to review the proposal and open PRs of their own πŸ™‚
03:21 MTDiscord <greenxenith> Well, as far as For Servers (since that is what the PR is for), I would also argue minetestmapper should be put under For Servers
03:23 MTDiscord <mark.wiemer> Hmm I think it's currently earmarked for creators
03:23 MTDiscord <greenxenith> Thats the least relevant section
03:23 MTDiscord <mark.wiemer> to be merged with "programs and editors"
03:24 MTDiscord <greenxenith> minetestmapper is only used by server owners and players, primarily the former
03:24 MTDiscord <wsor4035> we need to mention small joker, krock, also lmd, appgurueu, luatic..... so it seems there is more core devs .....jokes aside, not sure if there is much value to keeping the two under one name per or not
03:24 MTDiscord <mark.wiemer> Good to know, happy to keep it as a separate page and move it to for-server-hosts
03:24 MTDiscord <mark.wiemer> sorry, not understanding the "two under one name" statement
03:25 MTDiscord <greenxenith> There will probably end up being a separate programs section for server owners and players each, since there are other tools out there for things. Map converters, world painter, live map servers, etc.
03:25 MTDiscord <wsor4035> two people, seperated by the also, but use multiple names
03:25 MTDiscord <greenxenith> (Krock is SmallJoker, appgurueu is lmd is luatic)
03:25 MTDiscord <mark.wiemer> oh those are aliases for only two people? can you tell I'm new here πŸ˜„
03:26 MTDiscord <wsor4035> small joker == krock
03:26 MTDiscord <mark.wiemer> I didn't change any words in any files, just accepted all names I saw. I did see some appguru today and changed it to appgurueu please don't burn me at the stake
03:27 MTDiscord <wsor4035> lmd has two brothers who may show up (rarely) to make it more confusing for ya
03:27 MTDiscord <greenxenith> inb4 we have to shortcode dev names so we can alias them in the future
03:27 MTDiscord <mark.wiemer> it's like XKCD standards but for people's names
03:27 MTDiscord <mark.wiemer> Honestly why I just use my name lol
03:28 MTDiscord <greenxenith> Observation: There are a lot of Celeron55s that will need to be changed to celeron55
03:28 MTDiscord <mark.wiemer> Ctrl+F is your friend πŸ˜„
03:28 MTDiscord <greenxenith> Ive seen them in a few PRs, I think they were imported from the wiki tho
03:30 MTDiscord <greenxenith> Ah, Prometheus and Grafana would likely be part of said program section for servers
03:30 MTDiscord <wsor4035> iirc there was a c55 or two, dunno if i changed any of em
03:31 MTDiscord <wsor4035> i mean, we have had people change there name (only really mattered for the credits)
03:31 MTDiscord <greenxenith> https://tenor.com/view/sonic-boom-knuckles-approved-approved-stamp-i-approve-gif-10897403971127807694
03:32 MTDiscord <mark.wiemer> Well then I guess I'll just merge it now πŸ™‚ thanks for the review!
03:33 MTDiscord <greenxenith> Should we tack https://github.com/luanti-org/dev.luanti.org/issues/170 onto the shortterm roadmap?
03:33 MTDiscord <wsor4035> shouldnt screw anything up if i transfer right?
03:34 MTDiscord <wsor4035> i guess the alias from /minetest will be gone, but who cares
03:34 MTDiscord <greenxenith> Nah, the redirects should chain
03:34 MTDiscord <mark.wiemer> Yeah, redirects will work
03:34 MTDiscord <greenxenith> The only thing to worry about is in-doc links if any
03:34 MTDiscord <mark.wiemer> Until someone else from luanti-org creates a repo named dev.luanti.org any reference will go
03:34 MTDiscord <mark.wiemer> but yeah we should update in-doc links, I've added a few, but Ctrl+F will do it
03:34 MTDiscord <wsor4035> any objections?
03:34 MTDiscord <wsor4035> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/926231483155378176/1342338733621514280/image.png?ex=67b945dd&amp;is=67b7f45d&amp;hm=574b542e53dce7ee4bfb451b36043f7b3214fd3d1ee4c05059448559a0d9ff58&amp;
03:35 MTDiscord <mark.wiemer> I'll open the PR for in-doc links now
03:35 MTDiscord <greenxenith> Actually ideally there shouldnt be any in-doc links??
03:35 MTDiscord <greenxenith> That should 100% be shortcoded, no?
03:35 MTDiscord <greenxenith> Or relative
03:35 MTDiscord <mark.wiemer> Let's just say I'm not perfect πŸ˜„
03:35 MTDiscord <greenxenith> All links should be relative to root, there should be no explicit mention of the TLD
03:36 MTDiscord <mark.wiemer> you can review the PR first maybe?
03:36 MTDiscord <mark.wiemer> note some links are to GitHub, not to the site itself
03:36 MTDiscord <greenxenith> True, in which case there should be a hugo shortcode or something
03:36 MTDiscord <greenxenith> Er, not for the repo
03:36 MTDiscord <greenxenith> Sorry
03:36 MTDiscord <greenxenith> If explicitly writing out the link as a self-reference, it should be a shortcode that expands to the root domain
03:37 MTDiscord <mark.wiemer> https://github.com/luanti-org/docs.luanti.org/pull/198
03:37 MTDiscord <greenxenith> For the repo, explicit is kinda required I guess
03:37 MTDiscord <mark.wiemer> Yeah there were just a few and all but one were to the repo I believe
03:38 MTDiscord <mark.wiemer> Feel free to merge it, wsor, unless you want to wait for Green's review. I'm gonna be stepping away soon
03:39 MTDiscord <greenxenith> My Shoulder Perfectionist is saying "make the repo url a macro so its easier to change later!" but the rest of me is saying "its probably never going to change again, who care" so πŸ‘
03:39 MTDiscord <wsor4035> side note, but whoever at github made it so your inbox keeps showing you have notifications circle till you refresh should be shot
03:42 MTDiscord <greenxenith> Added repo rename (completed) to roadmap just for tracking sake; Also added content review issue to medium term
03:43 MTDiscord <mark.wiemer> Let's just say it wasn't exactly difficult to change today either πŸ˜‰
03:44 MTDiscord <mark.wiemer> Signing off for the day, looking forward to more cleanup tmrw!
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13:13 MTDiscord <luatic> yeah i'm lately leaning in that direction too
13:14 MTDiscord <luatic> first name however wouldn't be enough, there are two core devs called Lars (me, Lars MΓΌller, and Lars Hofhansl)
13:47 MTDiscord <warr1024> Is that two Larses or just two Lars? Β Lars already sounds plural, like each of you is made of more than one Lar.
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