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IRC log for #luanti, 2025-02-02

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15:17 coconutdoggo Hello friendly people
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16:20 sfan5 hello
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17:26 coconutdoggo Where would a good place to get help be? I have issues with inputs on my keyboard and I'd like to fix it. I am left handed so I have to use creative bindings, but what I use overlaps with stuff that seems to be hardcoded to do something without a chance to unbind it.
17:34 SFENCE coconutdoggo: What key/controls looks to overlaps?
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17:59 coconutdoggo SFENCE: I tend to use the numpad and the arrows, reaching the arrows with my thumb and the numpad with other fingers. The arrows definitely keep their left, right, forward and backward setting despite me giving them other purposes. So for example, pressing left arrow makes me jump left, rather than the direction I wanted.
18:05 MinetestBot [git] cx384 -> luanti-org/luanti: Document that object properties `colors` field is unused (#15685) a8c4c55 https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/commit/a8c4c55d5885e140215020c6411dbca7363b2bba (2025-02-02T18:04:18Z)
18:05 MinetestBot [git] SmallJoker -> luanti-org/luanti: PauseMenuScripting: resolve absolute 'builtin' path before substring … 5419345 https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/commit/5419345dfff913697326b40ea67b0b00b89b7890 (2025-02-02T18:04:50Z)
18:05 pgimeno https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/pull/15685 -- Document that object properties `colors` field is unused by cx384
18:07 pgimeno hm, it seems I need to ignore MinetestBot
18:07 MinetestBot [git] SmallJoker -> luanti-org/luanti: InvRef: deduplicate code 8caf922 https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/commit/8caf922df62caf935e5a0bf154773527e20ef3c0 (2025-02-02T18:05:09Z)
18:07 MinetestBot [git] SmallJoker -> luanti-org/luanti: Server: undo inventory client prediction b2a6c3b https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/commit/b2a6c3ba23b58bf8c3d4f50b31703ed0505b1286 (2025-02-02T18:05:09Z)
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18:16 coconutdoggo SFENCE: Dunno if you saw my reply but in short as a left handed I use the right side of the keyboard, including the arrows, for stuff. The arrows are hardcoded to move so when I press them I move AND do the thing I bind them to.
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19:13 SFENCE_arch coconutdoggo: Arrow keys looks to works fine if I rebind them. Num keys are hardware binded to change item in hand.
19:14 SFENCE_arch coconutdoggo: You are playing on Window, Luanti 5.10 ?
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19:17 coconutdoggo SFENCE_arch: I'm playing on linux, let me check the version...
19:19 coconutdoggo SFENCE_arch: So, 5.10 indeed, and both arrows AND numpad seem to be stubborn about their purpose.
19:21 SFENCE_arch coconutdoggo: Looks like I am able to recreate it for number on alphanumeric part of keyboard. These keys are also hardware binded to change wield item slot, but can be binded also for other actions.
19:22 coconutdoggo SFENCE_arch is there anything I can do at all?
19:22 SFENCE_arch coconutdoggo: so you only bind arrrow keys to forward, backward, left and right move and you see some collision also for move?
19:23 SFENCE_arch coconutdoggo: I am afraid you have to use other, non number keys for rebind actions.
19:24 coconutdoggo SFENCE_arch: Oh... Guess I can;t play this then. I tried over the years to find other bindings for games, this is the only I was comfortable with and if I can't use it I just don't play the game, better than hurting my wrists.
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19:25 MTDiscord <wsor4035> i assume there is some software for linux that fakes keys to other applications
19:25 MTDiscord <wsor4035> but i dunno
19:27 MTDiscord <siliconsniffer> There is, for example https://github.com/AntiMicroX/antimicrox
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19:28 MTDiscord <siliconsniffer> IIRC this can also rebind keyboard inputs, I mostly used it for the gamepad to keyboard functionality
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19:30 MTDiscord <siliconsniffer> Mhm, might have been mistaken, seems like it always want a controller
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19:35 MTDiscord <siliconsniffer> https://github.com/sezanzeb/input-remapper might be worth a look, that seems to be able to remap mouse, keyboard an gamepad.
19:35 bdju https://github.com/Adelost/KeyHook
19:36 bdju https://github.com/valignatev/hitboxer
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20:05 SFENCE_arch coconutdoggo: Feel free to create feature request on https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/issues
20:11 MTDiscord <y5nw> The keybinding settings for selecting item slots are not shown by GUIKeyChangeMenu but can be changed manually in minetest.conf
20:23 coconutdoggo SFENCE_arch: I will, thanks :)
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21:23 SFENCE_arch coconutdoggo: Can you try https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/issues/15746#issuecomment-2629547277 ? For me, it disables slot changing. It can help you.
21:29 coconutdoggo SFENCE_arch: That does solve the problem with item switching. The directional arrows are still an issue.
21:34 MTDiscord <y5nw> coconutdoggo: I wonder whether the issue with directional arrows comes from numpad settings. Do you still jump left if you bind the "move left" key to something that is not on the keypad?
21:35 SFENCE_arch coconutdoggo: Can you share your minetest.conf via paste.bin or something like it?
21:44 coconutdoggo https://pastebin.com/LesuEUg6
21:44 coconutdoggo Oh, sfence got dc
21:45 coconutdoggo MTDiscord: If I bind my movement to wasd then the arrows work fine when I try to jump
21:47 MTDiscord <y5nw> Ok, so it seems like the issue is with the numpad keys then, since these emit different keycodes (arrow keys or number keys) depending on the state of numlock.
21:48 coconutdoggo I should probably update the issue on githuib then
21:59 coconutdoggo https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/issues/15747
21:59 coconutdoggo In case there was interest.
22:03 MTDiscord <y5nw> Hm, I will probably test tomorrow but I think this should be fixed by #14964.
22:03 pgimeno https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/pull/14964 -- SDL: Use scancodes for keybindings by y5nw
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22:04 coconutdoggo MTDiscord: Was that meant for me? I don't understand.
22:09 MTDiscord <y5nw> I'll post that as a comment on the issue then; I can explain there with more details.
22:10 coconutdoggo Thanks. What is the <y5mw> in your messages? Sorry if it's a noobie question
22:10 bdju they're speaking through a bridge bot
22:10 bdju so MTDiscord is a bot and <y5nw> is the nick of that person on the discord side
22:22 coconutdoggo Oh. Well i feel pretty dumb now.
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