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Kimapr |
I'm trying to write a reverse proxy for Luanti that understands a small portion of the luanti protocol in order to maintain an appearance of an online luanti server even when the real server is offline, starting the server when a client tries to connect and keeping the client on hold while the server is starting. I'm having problems with the "keep the client on hold" part. |
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Kimapr |
the luanti client seems to have a hardcoded 10 seconds timeout for the full handshake, including authentication, and my minetest modsoup takes longer than 10 seconds to start. |
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Kimapr |
that means my proxy needs to be fully aware of luanti auth to properly work and share the auth database with the real server, which is not ideal |
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Kimapr |
alternatively i think can kick the client with a do_reconnect flag after some time but that is also not ideal |
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Kimapr |
actually i think that might be good enough |
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Kimapr |
is it even possible to kick before auth though |
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MTDiscord |
<greenxenith> Have you looked at the existing multiproxy? |
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Kimapr |
no, i had no idea it exists |
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MTDiscord |
<greenxenith> https://github.com/HimbeerserverDE/mt-multiserver-proxy |
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Kimapr |
it seems to have quite different goals from that of mine, not sure how useful it will be |
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Kimapr |
> All internal servers need to allow empty passwords and must not be reachable from the internet! |
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Kimapr |
i suppose that is one solution |
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Guest53 |
when will wayland be natively supported? |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> I play on sway-wm all the time, any problems for you? |
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MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> Iirc it just works if you pass the sdl2 param for it |
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MTDiscord |
<rollerozxa> yes SDL2 supports wayland but doesn't default to it |
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MTDiscord |
<rollerozxa> SDL_VIDEODRIVER=wayland when launching luanti |
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Guest53 |
MTDiscord |
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Guest53 |
I still get |
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Guest53 |
SDL_VIDEODRIVER=wayland |
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Guest53 |
2025-06-22 14:13:09: ERROR[Main]: Irrlicht: Error: Need running XServer to start Irrlicht Engine. |
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Guest53 |
2025-06-22 14:13:09: ERROR[Main]: Irrlicht: Could not open display, set DISPLAY variable |
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Guest53 |
2025-06-22 14:13:09: ERROR[Main]: Could not initialize the device with any supported video drive |
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Guest53 was kicked by ShadowBot: Message flood detected. Use a pastebin like pastebin.mozilla.org. |
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ireallyhateirc |
would be nice if Luanti supported that one shader that allows making outlines/lineart |
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ireallyhateirc |
the only alternative for now is duplicating mesh, making it thicker, reversing normal and enabling backface culling |
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ireallyhateirc |
but this doubles the number of triangles |
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ireallyhateirc |
which should be fine for low-poly models I guess but would only affect entities and mesh nodes and would need to be added manually each time |
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MTDiscord |
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Guest53 |
I passed SDL_VIDEODRIVER=wayland |
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Guest53 |
BUt i still get https://bpa.st/2ATA |
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orkan_guy |
I have enabled set SDL_VIDEODRIVER=wayland envvar |
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orkan_guy |
But i still get errors regarding irrlicht engine demanding X11 to run |
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[MatrxMT] |
<grorp> you probably compiled with the wrong Irrlicht device then |
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[MatrxMT] |
<grorp> -DUSE_SDL2=1 |
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[MatrxMT] |
<grorp> when running cmake |
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orkan_guy |
MTDiscord I'm on 5.11 btw, is sdl only fully supported on 5.12? |
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orkan_guy |
Also i'm using gentoo's source based package manager to compile it, |
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orkan_guy |
i could try clone and compile it myself i guess |
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[MatrxMT] |
<grorp> SDL is the default starting with 5.12 |
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[MatrxMT] |
<grorp> also, "MTDiscord" is for messages bridged from Discord, not an actual user. Actual nickname is in angle brackets <> |
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orkan_guy |
oh, so this should work if i was on 5.12? @grorp |
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MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> yes |
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[MatrxMT] |
<grorp> what roller said should work (without custom compile options) starting with 5.12, yes |
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Krock |
alternatively, xwayland should fix it too, or wouldn't it? |
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MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> the orginal question was native wayland support tho |
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Krock |
mhm. No idea what SDL supports |
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Krock |
according to the example in https://jan.newmarch.name/Wayland/SDL/ sdl2 apparently supports, and the environment variable used is correct. |
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MTDiscord |
<jordan4ibanez> SDL supports us with positive terminal messages and an unwaivering ability to render a window |
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Krock |
official documentation: https://wiki.libsdl.org/SDL2/FAQUsingSDL |
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Krock |
@jordan4ibanez Nice to see that it takes care of your attention |
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Bombo |
what kind of addon for blender does one use to be able to import+export a .b3d from a luanti mod? |
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Bombo |
this https://github.com/GreenXenith/io_scene_b3d seems to kind of work, but the bones are not connected, not moving the mesh |
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Bombo |
did not try exporting yet |
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Krock |
3d_armor provides a few models. Have you compared your model with these yet? |
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Krock |
player_api also has a model that you could use as reference |
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Bombo |
trying this https://github.com/ElCeejo/draconis/tree/main/models |
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MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> there is no importer, what you linked is the official/recommended/etc way to export. generally good people keep the blends around |
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MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> more modern mods should use gltf |
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Bombo |
oh the .obj says # Made in Blockbench 4.2.4 |
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Bombo |
maybe i should use that |
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MTDiscord |
<luatic> if you just need static models, obj is a good option |
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Bombo |
no it's a moving animated dragon i want to mod |
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MTDiscord |
<luatic> then you need b3d or gltf (theoretically x is also an option, but please don't) |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Bracket> x? |
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MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> lives in texas :p |
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MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/direct3d9/x-files--legacy- |
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Krock |
Bracket: https://irrlicht.sourceforge.io/?page_id=45#supportedformats |
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Krock |
> Microsoft DirectX (.x, r) (binary & text, skeleton) |
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Krock |
Minetest did in fact also have Direct3D support until the Irrlicht engine was forked, and trimmed to our needs. |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Bracket> directX? |
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Krock |
however, it's easier to maintain OpenGL (ES) as (more or less) one backend than to care about those |
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MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> support is a bit to generous, it usually had various bugs |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Bracket> is that linux support |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Bracket> or win only |
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Krock |
you could use WineD3D or DXVK to run it through Wine on Linux but eeh no |
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Krock |
it's a Windows thing |
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MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> directx is windows native, can be emulated on other platforms. the file format works across platforms |
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Krock |
HOWEVER, the mesh part (that we are talking about) is a format that can be written and parsed on any platform given a proper implementation |
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Krock |
and Irrlicht's implementation is not perfect (or is it the format's fault?) - anyway, I do remember a few issues regarding bone names |
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Krock |
#7619 was apparently caused by Blender |
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ShadowBot |
https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/issues/7619 -- Entity attached to a bone on a .x model is incorrectly transformed |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Bracket> can you edit node textures per node |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Bracket> to like make it green when producing grern dye |
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Krock |
use palettes |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Bracket> whats that? |
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Krock |
documented in doc/lua_api.md |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Bracket> ok |
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Krock |
base image of the texture multiplied by another color provided by the palette texture |
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Krock |
param2 defines the color |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Bracket> but what if i only want a region to change color |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Bracket> not the whole node |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Bracket> like a window |
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Krock |
then you need to get very creative |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Bracket> entitys it is theb |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Bracket> s/theb/then |
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Krock |
or registering 10k different nodes (also very inefficient and prone to hit the max node limit) |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Bracket> Never! |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Bracket> There is a node limit? |
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Krock |
2^15 |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Bracket> why half a short |
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Krock |
the other half is to have space for unknown nodes |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Bracket> Huh? |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Bracket> Does every node get a id or what |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Bracket> Wait I remember something 'bout that i think |
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Krock |
content id |
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Krock |
ctrl+f in lua_api.md |
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Krock |
write a Lua mapgen for your nodes. that'll also teach you to use vmanip :P |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Bracket> I don't know how to generate a map |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Bracket> I think normal mapgens are enough |
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MinetestBot |
[git] MiguelPL4 -> luanti-org/luanti: Update links and names in the documentation (#16153) 49f48e0 https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/commit/49f48e0a7c91964333ad8e9369dd5d1cc735836f (2025-06-22T20:04:42Z) |
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MinetestBot |
[git] lhofhansl -> luanti-org/luanti: Add test benchmark for Map d41de3d https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/commit/d41de3da79ea282ad9e3f4b6b2eacaedafeabe55 (2025-06-22T20:06:17Z) |
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MinetestBot |
[git] SmallJoker -> luanti-org/luanti: Formspec: Show a player inventory using core.show_formspec (#15963) fdc149f https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/commit/fdc149f31606a2f9c2bf572a7ecc9176c7b19476 (2025-06-22T20:06:47Z) |
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