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MTDiscord |
<thresher09> cheapie, how do you display custom images on digiscreens? |
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MTDiscord |
<et086> see https://cheapiesystems.com/git/digiscreen/tree/init.lua#n79 (digiscreen.recompress) |
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MTDiscord |
<thresher09> thats not what i meant |
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MTDiscord |
<et086> oh |
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MTDiscord |
<thresher09> i wrote a python script that transforms a png image into digiscreen data but i want to know how cheapie did it |
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MTDiscord |
<et086> oh ok |
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Bombo |
hi, how does one fix this kind of warning? 'WARNING[Main]: Item definition table was reused between registrations. This is unsupported and broken: skinsdb:character558png' |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> Bombo: perform a `table.copy` before registering the next item. |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> Is this your own mod or just one you have installed? |
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Bombo |
i just installed skinsdb |
| 17:06 |
[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> the error message would only have become visible in 5.12, see https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/issues/15953 |
| 17:07 |
[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> it looks like something you should report to SkinsDB https://github.com/minetest-mods/skinsdb/issues (check that it isn't already reported) |
| 17:07 |
Bombo |
yep using 5.12 |
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sfan5 |
I can't find where skinsdb even registers any nodes or items |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> Bombo: Do you maybe have other mods, like one that adds representations of people's skins as nodes, like armour stands? |
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Bombo |
i'm not sure |
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Bombo |
how do i find out` |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> Go to the main menu. Select the world that's giving the error. Disable all the mods except SkinsDB. See if you still get an error |
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Bombo |
no warnings with just skinsdb, enabling mods on by one |
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MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> sfan5: https://github.com/search?q=repo%3Aminetest-mods%2Fskinsdb%20register_node&type=code |
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MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> it registers nodes for custom hands |
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sfan5 |
oh |
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MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> yes, its an epic waste of nodes, but also the engine doesnt provide any saner method 🤷 |
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sfan5 |
Bombo: in that case all you need to do is update your mod |
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sfan5 |
!cdb skinsdb |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> worse uses of nodes exist: e.g. moreblocks |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> textureoptions for nodes would help... |
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MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> moreblocks has a point, skinsdb is literally wasting node defs for cosmetics. the engine should provided a better api |
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sfan5 |
!cdb |
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Bombo |
it started when i enabled https://github.com/ElCeejo/animalia |
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MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> better hud api or whatever |
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sfan5 |
wasn't this a thing |
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sfan5 |
!mod skinsdb |
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MinetestBot |
urllib.error.URLError: <urlopen error [Errno -2] Name or service not known> (file "/usr/lib64/python3.11/urllib/request.py", line 1351, in do_open) |
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sfan5 |
🙃 |
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Bombo |
i started enabling from the bottom ;) |
| 17:39 |
sfan5 |
wsor4035: I guess the hand should be allowed to simply be mesh |
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Bombo |
i just git cloned it, but still |
| 17:40 |
Bombo |
(cloned skinsdb too btw) |
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MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> sfan5: perhaps, havent thought far enough as to what would be a good api, just that nodes aint it :p |
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MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> the hand inventory is great tho for custom tool defs, etc |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> inspector gadget with all these arms |
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sfan5 |
for display purposes that is, the digging stuff still needs to come from a hand item |
| 17:42 |
sfan5 |
the dig parameters could however too just be an ad-hoc definition that the server sends |
| 17:42 |
sfan5 |
an item like that doesn't have to actually exist |
| 17:43 |
Bombo |
WARNING[ServerStart]: Item definition table was reused between registrations. This is unsupported and broken: default:pine_tree |
| 17:43 |
Bombo |
farming:desert_sand_soil |
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sfan5 |
which mod did you last enable? |
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Bombo |
and lots of others |
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MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> thinking a little bit, didnt the inventory bar, or some other stuff get made into proper hud elements accessible via api in the last few versions? probably should make the hand a hud element if it isnt already and modification via that |
| 17:44 |
sfan5 |
it sounds like whatever it is is messing with the registration process quite heavily |
| 17:44 |
Bombo |
animalia |
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Bombo |
animalia + creatura |
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Bombo |
i started a new world just with animalia + creatura (minetest_game) i get lots of these warnings |
| 17:46 |
Bombo |
but not much skinsdb: hmm |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> that's very strange, because when I `grep` for `skinsdb` inside of creatura or animalia's source code, I get nothing |
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MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> http://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/pull/14321 in 5.10 is what im recalling |
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sfan5 |
i don't think animalia is doing anything to skinsdb |
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sfan5 |
specifically |
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Bombo |
skinsdb is disabled now |
| 17:47 |
sfan5 |
rather it's doing something fishy to all nodedefs |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> it is doing something very strange: api/mob_ai.lua |
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Bombo |
https://github.com/ElCeejo/animalia/issues/120 |
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Bombo |
but elceejo is rarely fixing thigs |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> oh, I can see why that causes the problem |
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sfan5 |
looks like they're using register_node instead of override_item |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> the `def` in the function isn't reused between runs of the loop, but it IS a re-use of the original definition table |
| 17:54 |
sfan5 |
this won't cause any bugs but is needlessly weird |
| 17:54 |
[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> override_item should have been used |
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Bombo |
just s/register_node/override_item/ ? |
| 17:59 |
[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> should work, yes |
| 18:00 |
Bombo |
ERROR[Main]: ModError: Runtime error from mod 'animalia' in callback on_mods_loaded ... Attempt to redefine name of :default:pine_tree to "default:pine_tree" |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> `core.override_item(name, def)` then |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> removing the : prefix |
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Bombo |
core.override_item(name, def) |
| 18:02 |
Bombo |
Attempt to redefine name of :default:pine_tree to "default:pine_tree" |
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sfan5 |
try this https://0x0.st/8ng_.txt |
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Bombo |
yep fixed it but a new warning: WARNING[ServerStart]: Undeclared global variable "groups" accessed at .minetest/mods/animalia/api/mob_ai.lua:57 |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> did you forget to type `local` in front of groups? or did you paste the code? |
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Bombo |
sry my fault |
| 18:10 |
Bombo |
works |
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Bombo |
thx sfan5 :) |
| 18:13 |
Bombo |
more warnings during runtime now: WARNING[Server]: Reading initial object properties directly from an entity definition is deprecated, move it to the 'initial_properties' table instead. (Property 'physical' in entity 'animalia:tropical_fish') |
| 18:13 |
[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> I think that's been deprecated for longer than since 5.12 |
| 18:14 |
[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> It's pretty much expected that a lot of mods which haven't been updated will be getting deprecation warnings when they launch |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> and sometimes ongoing |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> a migration guide would be good |
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MTDiscord |
<luatic> i have started such a guide locally. quite a few warnings are imo self explanatory though, like this one. |
| 18:18 |
Bombo |
WARNING[Server]: Deprecated call to get_bone_position, use get_bone_override instead api/api.lua:121 |
| 18:18 |
[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> https://appgurueu.github.io/2025/02/20/breaking-bones.html |
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Bombo |
i dont see any 'physical' in https://github.com/ElCeejo/animalia/blob/main/mobs/tropical_fish.lua |
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MTDiscord |
<et086> oh... i don't think you can easily solve that warning |
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MTDiscord |
<luatic> Blockhead256: actually that's a bit of another thing, the blog article is about something else. that warning is just about "get_bone_position", which was superseded by "get_bone_override". |
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Bombo |
the initial_properties or the get_bone_position one? or both |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> right.. I found it in my firefox history but noticed it didn't mention that function |
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Bombo |
s/get_bone_position/get_bone_override/ seems to have worked ;) |
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MTDiscord |
<et086> Bombo: the initial properties one |
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MTDiscord |
<luatic> Bombo: no, it's not that simple, it's not just a rename, the new function is different |
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MTDiscord |
<luatic> it expects the data in a slightly different format |
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Bombo |
mkay |
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Bombo |
https://github.com/ElCeejo/animalia/issues/121 |
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Bombo |
https://github.com/ElCeejo/animalia/issues/122 |
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Bombo |
ERROR[Main]: The following mods could not be found: "mesecons_doors" |
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Bombo |
where did they go? ;) |
| 19:07 |
Krock |
Bombo: just as I predicted. https://github.com/minetest-mods/mesecons/pull/700/files#r1938296164 Â (it was removed) |
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kyle56 |
i just had a thought... should the .mts schematic file thingy be changed to like .ls or soemthing? has anyone discussed that? |
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cheapie |
thresher09: I use https://gist.github.com/cheapie/e4edc2ea274750c235c984d972703803 but everyone seems to have their own |
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MTDiscord |
<thresher09> does this split up an image between multiple digiscreens? |
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MTDiscord |
<thresher09> here is mine (not sure if you can see this from irc) |
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MTDiscord |
<thresher09> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/749727888659447960/1397706885632888974/pictureconversion.py?ex=6882b379&is=688161f9&hm=c5b85734ceace08f464400c9905760276ac663b3227273ebce3afd235c4104a3& |
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gideonstar |
Hi. I'm wondering if it's possible to get mined and newly built blocks to renew their surface so that, for example, the grass texture can be seen again on the ground. |
| 22:29 |
cheapie |
I can see that, yeah. Mine doesn't split it, I usually load it into the GPU as one big image (up to 64x64) and then split it using the GPU |
| 22:30 |
cheapie |
gideonstar: Depends on the game, but if you're playing MTG then grass does spread from grass onto nearby dirt (given enough light, I think) |
| 22:30 |
gideonstar |
I don't mean the grass that can be harvested, but the texture on the dirt blocks. |
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cheapie |
Right, at least in MTG default:dirt will turn into default:dirt_with_grass after a while under those conditions. Other games will vary, it would be helpful to know which one you're playing |
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gideonstar |
Server says "gameid = minetest" so I guess it's MTG ;) |
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*Â cheapie |
nods |
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gideonstar |
Ah, I can see the difference in my debug messages (F5): default:dry_dirt and default:dry_dirt_with_dry_grass. But it doesn't seem to regrow here. |
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cheapie |
Ah, so dry grass, not just grass. That might be different, let me look |
| 22:36 |
cheapie |
It looks like dry grass should do the same, of course only spreading from other dirt with dry grass |
| 22:36 |
gideonstar |
Ah, I see. Okay, I'll give it some time. Thank you. |
| 22:36 |
cheapie |
Putting dry grass (like the node that's *just* the grass) looks like it might turn the dirt into dirt with dry grass after some time as well |
| 22:38 |
gideonstar |
Maybe I'm just too impatient ;) |
| 22:38 |
cheapie |
Possibly, it should take a few minutes on average, but it only counts if you're near it, and there is a random element so you might just be unlucky |
| 22:39 |
gideonstar |
I have a second client that I can put there ^^ |
| 22:49 |
gideonstar |
In mods/default/functions.lua 612 there is the code for dirt. But there is none for default:dry_dirt |
| 22:51 |
gideonstar |
Of course, one could say that this is normal behaviour for dry dirt ^^ |
| 22:53 |
cheapie |
Ah, I missed that you had dry dirt too |
| 22:53 |
cheapie |
In which case, yes, I would say that not growing anything is at least realistic :P |
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