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01:09 Gabauti732 =-O
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03:41 repetitivestrain Would someone consider this proposal? ย https://forum.luanti.org/viewtopic.php?p=446110#p446110
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09:09 luatic sounds reasonable
09:12 luatic as an aside: you sir are perhaps the single most compelling reason for moving to codeberg i have seen so far :p
09:13 luatic i wonder how hard it would be to set up (or write) a bridge bot that just mirrors PRs and issues on a codeberg repo access to github
09:13 luatic codeberg repo you can access*
09:29 [MatrxMT] <y5nw> I wonder whether we can move the repo (etc) to Codeberg and mirror to Github for CI
09:34 sfan5 that would suck without integration that allows you see CI results on codeberg
09:34 sfan5 also how many ocassional contributors woul we lose by not being on github?
09:34 sfan5 I don't pretend to have an answer but it's not that easy
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10:09 [MatrxMT] <birdlover32767> someone REALLY needs to update this channel on matrix
10:09 [MatrxMT] <birdlover32767> `The official Minetest channel | Latest version: 5.7.0 (2023-04-08) | General, player and modding discussion is on-topic. If in doubt, post here | Responses may take a while, be patient | Rules: https://wiki.minetest.net/IRC#Rules | Development: #minetest-dev | Server list: https://minetest.net/servers | IRC logs: https://irc.minetest.net/minetest`
10:10 [MatrxMT] <birdlover32767> im sorry but what is Latest version: 5.7.0 (2023-04-08)
10:10 [MatrxMT] <Blockhead256> wow, I think only ย the third | section | is accurate there
10:11 [MatrxMT] <leca> Why even place this info in the room desc?
10:11 [MatrxMT] <leca> I mean the latest version
10:11 [MatrxMT] <leca> At the very least, we could write a bot that would 'hook' on release and update the ver herer
10:11 [MatrxMT] <leca> At the very least, we could write a bot that would 'hook' on release and update the ver here
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10:12 sfan5 for reference the IRC topic is:
10:12 sfan5 The official Luanti (formerly Minetest) channel | General, player and modding discussion is on-topic. If in doubt, post here | Responses may take a while, be patient | Rules: https://dev.luanti.org/irc/#rules | Development: #luanti-dev | Server list: https://luanti.org/servers | IRC logs: https://irc.luanti.org/
10:13 [MatrxMT] <leca> It is more loved by maintainers ๐Ÿ˜„
10:14 repetitivestrain luatic: thanks but i would really prefer to be a bit more demure. ย i trust there are innumerable developers with more time and insight for minetest than i have who are equally frustrated by GitHub
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10:26 luatic leca: what you suggest sounds a lot like https://xkcd.com/1319/ ๐Ÿ˜„
10:30 [MatrxMT] <leca> Crap, it's like that every time ๐Ÿ˜„
10:30 [MatrxMT] <leca> Sometimes I really wanna automate like a 5-sec task but it costs me DAYS of debugging..
10:30 [MatrxMT] <leca> Like I write minimal buggy version for like a few hours and then I stuck in the loop like "oh theres a bug -> debug -> fixed -> oh theres another".
10:30 [MatrxMT] <leca> But bugs sometimes ends (or I stop noticing them :D) and the new loop starts: "oh theres a tiny little thing that I'd like to improve -> spend hours searching the best ways -> stick with current code 'cause no time or desire left ๐Ÿ˜„
10:37 [MatrxMT] <Blockhead256> it's occurred to me as well before that a bot could be used to send messages to GitHub without being registered. That would:
10:37 [MatrxMT] <Blockhead256> (a) potentially be against GitHub's ToS or their interests
10:37 [MatrxMT] <Blockhead256> (b) not be acceptable to a lot of objectors to GitHub anyway
10:38 [MatrxMT] <Blockhead256> (c) cost a lot to maintain
10:42 luatic another thought i'd just throw out there: i feel like convincing GH users to use codeberg might be much easier than convincing codeberg users to use GH.
10:43 luatic codeberg allows auth via GH and the basic workflow (PRs, issues) is the same; a GH user probably won't have reservations about using codeberg.
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10:53 [MatrxMT] <birdlover32767 (@birdlover32767:matrix.org)> question: how do you detect item entities in a given area?
10:53 [MatrxMT] <birdlover32767 (@birdlover32767:matrix.org)> do you use `core.get_objects_inside_radius`
10:54 [MatrxMT] <Blockhead256> yes
10:54 [MatrxMT] <Blockhead256> or rather, as recommended in the docs, just objects_inside_radius, which has an iterator
10:55 [MatrxMT] <leca> Another idea: make two repos, on a codeberg and on the GH and synchronize them. Maybe set some people to be responsible for accepting PRs on GH and ย on the Codeberg and then the two repos would synchronize?
10:55 [MatrxMT] <leca> Maybe that would introduce some kind of division between devs and really better to say "Luanti is now on Codeberg"...
10:55 [MatrxMT] <Blockhead256> then filter to `__builtin:item` entities
10:56 [MatrxMT] <birdlover32767 (@birdlover32767:matrix.org)> then i just get the itemstring field, ok
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12:03 MTDiscord <wsor4035> moving to codeberg because one person is a zealot hardly seems like a good idea
12:04 [MatrxMT] <Blockhead256> well this is not the only person who has made a point of not using GitHub, but just the most recent and a prominent example
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13:20 pgimeno "<sfan5> also how many ocassional contributors woul we lose by not being on github?" ย  <- dunno but you'd gain at least one ๐Ÿ™‹
13:20 pgimeno this formula can't be correct: param0[(Z-z)*Z*Y + y*X + x] (from https://docs.luanti.org/for-creators/luanti-schematic-file-format/ )
13:21 pgimeno I'm betting for param0[(Z-1-z)*X*Y + y*X + x]
13:30 rubenwardy we might lose some fly-by contributors but those don't have huge value
13:36 luatic ^ yep, that too. the only major "risk" wrt contributors i see is that the "extra step" of using codeberg alienates fly-by contributors who *would have developed* into established contributors
13:37 cheapie FWIW Luanti is an important enough project to me that if it was to move I'd create an account on the new service (within reason)
13:46 bgstack15 Eh, I don't see why a proficient user of github wouldn't also just use codeberg.
13:46 bgstack15 Codeberg is way less icky than github, albeit with a smaller userbase.
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14:35 sfan5 a big part is already having an account set up anyway
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21:57 Topic for #luanti is now The official Luanti (formerly Minetest) channel | General, player and modding discussion is on-topic. If in doubt, post here | Responses may take a while, be patient | Rules: https://dev.luanti.org/irc/#rules | Development: #luanti-dev | Server list: https://luanti.org/servers | IRC logs: https://irc.luanti.org/
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