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IRC log for #luanti, 2025-11-06

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10:44 MinetestBot [git] TheEt1234 -> luanti-org/luanti: Allow image formats other than PNG for game backgrounds in the main m… e82495d https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/commit/e82495d98c8192343548effe8eaf5d8e07031eed (2025-11-06T10:42:26Z)
10:44 MinetestBot [git] sfan5 -> luanti-org/luanti: Fix singleplayer with --gameid and new world b6bfc49 https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/commit/b6bfc494e6dcaba4a5b15797f437c1dfa2886234 (2025-11-06T10:42:36Z)
10:44 MinetestBot [git] sfan5 -> luanti-org/luanti: Add non-headless singleplayer tests to CI 8593d38 https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/commit/8593d3803040d7a605b0532042d22e1377da7d77 (2025-11-06T10:42:36Z)
12:04 [MatrxMT] <Blockhead256> aww crap forums are lagging
12:05 [MatrxMT] <Blockhead256> I'd like to take this opportunity to shame Vietnam in particular for hosting most of our spammers, and say I hope this doesn't mark a return to effective DDoS conditions
12:18 [MatrxMT] <Blockhead256> I think it was just a blip
12:19 [MatrxMT] <Blockhead256> hmm no here it goes going slowly again
12:26 [MatrxMT] <Blockhead256> it seems like a new kind of problem where the server thread hangs and the page never finishes loading, whereas other pages will just snap and load
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18:32 MinetestBot [git] SmallJoker -> luanti-org/luanti: Break include chains and tidy (part 2) 98fb381 https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/commit/98fb3819104a9373987de7d9e161b63ff5c55969 (2025-11-06T18:31:13Z)
18:32 MinetestBot [git] sfan5 -> luanti-org/luanti: Port most shaders to GLSL ES 3.0 (#16639) 298a27c https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/commit/298a27c743b6290179eebb7cef3e442e1a559741 (2025-11-06T18:31:35Z)
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18:41 ireallyhateirc I did this obj:set_bone_override("Bone", {rotation = {vec = vector.new(2, 2, 2), interpolation = 0, absolute = false}})
18:41 ireallyhateirc on an object with armature and no animations and it made my toilet model grow without stopping
18:41 ireallyhateirc is this a bug or a feature?
18:41 ireallyhateirc doing `absolute = true` makes it scale properly
18:42 ireallyhateirc I was quite surprised when the toilet started growing up to infinity and then disappeared
18:42 sfan5 it may not be a feature, but it's funny
18:50 ireallyhateirc It was scale, not rotation (typo). But with rotation it was spinning
18:51 ireallyhateirc not sure if it's worth making an issue for it, but mentioning it in the documentation would be enough
18:51 ireallyhateirc "`absolute`: If set to `false` (which is the default), the override will be relative to the animated property:"
18:52 ireallyhateirc so I guess if there's no animation then we should expect nonsense
18:52 ireallyhateirc because no property is animated
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20:14 sfan5 PSA: for anyone interested here are new statistics on what versions/platforms/etc. everyone is running Luanti on from the server list POV -->> https://kitsunemimi.pw/tmp/serverlist_stats_2025-11-06.txt
20:19 [MatrxMT] <birdlover32767> those 30 people running Luanti on their iPods are probably feeling very good about themselves
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20:30 sfan5 quick takeaways IMO: weird outdated android forks are alive and well; Luanti users pick up new engine versions quickly; windows 11 migration is showing, tho still 50% on windows 10; 35% desktop Linux users, incredible!
20:30 sfan5 and the big user counts in Russia, India or Brazil are surprising
20:49 ireallyhateirc kawaii world more popular than Multicraft?
20:53 user333_ those are some interesting stats
20:54 user333_ the craziest client i ever saw was MultiCraft on Android on x86_64?...
20:56 user333_ 5.4, 5.6, and 5.10 are probably slightly more popular bc they are the versions included with debian 11, 12, and 13
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20:58 ireallyhateirc would be cool to write a mod to shadow ban multicraft users
20:59 user333_ also in early 2025 i was one of the few windows XP users, was running it on my old PC for a bit, though that's a client and not a server so it doesn't affect those statistics
20:59 ireallyhateirc as in random bugs and lags
20:59 sfan5 the stats *are* about clients
21:00 sfan5 also we can't measure how popular multicraft is, as mentioned
21:00 user333_ i mean you can check for the hugely obvious version strings ingame
21:01 user333_ like '2.0.14AndroidLinux-aarch64-<random letters/numbers>'
21:01 ireallyhateirc yeah can confirm
21:01 ireallyhateirc I did that once to confirm a griefer came from Multicraft
21:01 ireallyhateirc that was a really annoying kid
21:02 user333_ a server i play on announces the version string of players who join to moderators, i can say that likely around 50% are on Multicraft
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21:02 user333_ of those about 2/3 are on iOS
21:02 ireallyhateirc he wanted us to tell him a name of some youtuber, otherwise he griefed
21:03 user333_ the rest are on android with a small percentage on some x86_64 platform
21:03 ireallyhateirc he was also an epic h4x0r and restarted his mobile phone to get new IPs
21:03 ireallyhateirc we banned him several times and he gave up
21:04 ireallyhateirc or maybe his mom grounded him lol
21:04 user333_ we haven't seen too many cheat clients though, but we know what version strings to look for
21:04 user333_ ireallyhateirc: hopefully
21:04 ireallyhateirc mom unplugged him from the matrix
21:04 user333_ too many kids with phones nowadays
21:04 user333_ i'm just a kid with several PCs and no phones :P
21:05 user333_ i expected 5.5 to be more popular as it's the best for PVP, last version to have 0.001 place rep time
21:06 user333_ there's also this "open-source" fork that can't join any servers:
21:06 user333_ https://github.com/edu-minetest/minetest
21:08 ireallyhateirc btw he also connected from his school so if we were bored enough we could e-mail his school
21:09 user333_ how do you even find that out lol
21:09 ireallyhateirc our friend who hosts the servers is a sysadmin
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21:13 user333_ were there any unique clients with version strings that were seen once or twice and never again?
21:14 user333_ "iPod   -> 30    00.06%" who on earth is playing on an ipod, those are so old
21:14 user333_ the touch series are like mini phones though
21:22 mrcheese OOO___OOO... playing on iPod???.. did someone typo iPad or smth ;-;
21:23 ireallyhateirc minecraft at home
21:23 user333_ hold on, i saw a screenshot on the forums of someone running a 0.2x version on windows 98 SE
21:24 mrcheese .______.
21:26 user333_ very bottom of this page: https://forum.luanti.org/viewtopic.php?p=413696
21:27 user333_ OpenGL 1.1.3 ;----; no hope of running anything more modern on that
21:29 user333_ also if you want to be one of the winXP users you need MT 5.1.1, nothing newer works ;-;
21:30 mrcheese ;-;
21:37 user333_ lemme find the screenshot...
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21:46 user333_ here's a screenshot of MT 5.1.1 running on WinXP and me playing the CTF server on it, taken in early 2025 iirc: https://filebin.net/rhze4vhalwcc1n50/screenshot.bmp
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22:15 * mrcheese gonna watch user333_ get set on fire for f i l e b i n
22:17 user333_ what's wrong with filebin?
22:18 mrcheese idk its the people here who have a problem with it apparently .-.
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