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MTDiscord |
<sheriff_u3> I've got an idea that I would like some feedback on: So there's a couple minetest-mods organizations, which help maintain a bunch of Luanti mods. Well I'm thinking about a Luanti-tools organization, for maintaining tools that do not use the Luanti engine. (For example my Luanti Node Box Creator web program.) I'm thinking about having it on Codeberg, mostly cause that seems to be where Luanti will eventually end up, though I'm no against |
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MTDiscord |
one on GitHub. Anyways would like to hear any thoughts and suggestions. |
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MTDiscord |
<sheriff_u3> *not |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> that definitely sounds interesting. One of the big things orgs like minetest-mods and mt-mods do is adopt tools as well, and that seems to fit with your picking up the nodebox editor |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> Luanti is pretty decentralised, so I would just start your org now and invite people |
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MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> There already exists a tool org |
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bgstack15 |
Sheriff_U3: Organizations like Luanti tend to own trademarks on the name. If you're not one of the core devs, they might decide you're squatting on the name "Luanti-tools" and get you kicked out. Don't get too attached to anything stored under that namespace. |
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bgstack15 |
So I'm recommending the exact opposite of what Blockhead256 suggested. He sounds more authoritative than me, though. |
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pgimeno |
I'm all for a Luanti-tools org, but IMO it needs to have the blessings of the engine devs (most importantly c55). If it's in Codeberg, that means I could also contribute. I can see minetestmapper moving to that org, for one, and possibly my node finder tool based on it. |
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MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> https://github.com/minetest-tools and https://github.com/luanti-org/modtools exist |
| 13:15 |
pgimeno |
oh I see, heads up to @sheriff_u3 ^ |
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MinetestBot |
[git] sfan5 -> luanti-org/serverlist: Improve logging ae2f30d https://github.com/luanti-org/serverlist/commit/ae2f30d13e808864d3d977b338fad3d8df45ea5c (2026-04-16T13:15:30Z) |
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MTDiscord |
<sheriff_u3> @wsor looking at those two, it seems the organization is mostly dead (it's most recent repo is archived, and everything else hasn't been touched in years) the other one is a repo under luanti-org, which would make it more difficult to have people add their own repos compared to an organization. |
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MTDiscord |
Command sent from Discord by sheriff_u3: |
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MTDiscord |
!tell pgimeno I'll check with them when I see that their on later today. |
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MinetestBot |
MTDiscord: yeah, sure, whatever |
| 13:36 |
pgimeno |
. |
| 13:36 |
MinetestBot |
pgimeno: Apr-16 13:35 UTC <MTDiscord> I'll check with them when I see that their on later today. |
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MTDiscord |
<sheriff_u3> Oh lol, discord doesn't let you see who all is on still, at least in mobile interface, so I didn't realize you were still here. |
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bgstack15 |
Oh, this place is linked to a discord channel? |
| 13:46 |
bgstack15 |
I knew some of these fine folks were using Matrix (which I never figured out) |
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MinetestBot |
[git] sfan5 -> luanti-org/serverlist: Reject updates with screwy uptime 7da2aac https://github.com/luanti-org/serverlist/commit/7da2aacbc10f3e923d5c6cfc258b0f24021c94dd (2026-04-16T14:08:48Z) |
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Bombo |
https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/releases/download/5.15.2/luanti-5.15.2-arm64-v8a.apk |
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Bombo |
ERROR 404: Not Found. |
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Bombo |
*complain* ;) |
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user333_ |
the correct link looks to be https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/releases/download/5.15.2/luanti-5.12.2-arm64-v8a.apk |
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user333_ |
wait a minute, let me look at this a bit more |
| 15:05 |
user333_ |
some of the assets are 5.12.2 when they should be 5.15.2 *facepalm* |
| 15:05 |
user333_ |
it appears all the android builds are this way |
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user333_ |
https://lounge.swee.codes/uploads/228a86ab21ef0aaf/Screenshot_20260416_120550.png |
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Bombo |
got the link from https://www.luanti.org/en/downloads/ |
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user333_ |
yeah it appears the github assets are incorrectly named |
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Bombo |
no update on play store nor f-droid also ... yet |
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Bombo |
how to get from the github page to the releases, i don't see a releases link there hmmm maybe blind |
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MTDiscord |
<rollerozxa> https://gitlab.com/fdroid/fdroiddata/-/commit/643090e7df2a09234e5d8470763554673399b5ed |
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MTDiscord |
<rollerozxa> looks like 5.15.2 should be built in the next build cycle |
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Bombo |
so when is the next cycle happening? how often does it happen? |
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pgimeno |
Bombo: there's a Releases button, but in case you missed it: https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/releases |
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pgimeno |
rubenwardy: misnamed the Android releases? is it only the filenames or is there something else that could make them be considered older? |
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rubenwardy |
I had to manually name the files as Sfan5 wanted the builds before the tag was made |
| 15:22 |
rubenwardy |
So it's just the wrong name |
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MTDiscord |
<rollerozxa> I believe F-Droid goes between update and build cycles when the previous one is complete. and the last update cycle was finished 8 minutes ago, so I assume a new build cycle will start soon https://monitor.f-droid.org/builds/update |
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pgimeno |
phew, ok |
| 15:23 |
rubenwardy |
fixed |
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Bombo |
rubenwardy: thank you for your service ;) |
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Bombo |
pgimeno: ah got it, it's on the right menu, i thought it would be on top, where 'code ... issues ...' live |
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Bombo |
roller: oh so fdroid build cycle ok |
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Bombo |
and when will it land on the play store? |
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Sheriff_U3 |
rubenwardy: Would it be ok if I use the Luanti name in an organization name on Codeberg? The name is luanti-tools, others here were saying that I should check with the core devs. (If any of the devs want to weigh in on this, please do!) |
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ireallyhateirc |
the name is not trademarked, so you're free to use that I believe. No one will mind if you don't pretend your org is official |
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crazylad |
Sheriff_U3: well, there is already luanti-tools, which is a VS code extension made by GreenXenith - could be confused for that |
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crazylad |
https://github.com/GreenXenith/luanti-tools |
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Sheriff_U3 |
crazylad: hmm, I doubt it would cause too much confusion though. |
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Sheriff_U3 |
I mean an organization and a tool are hard to mix up. |
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crazylad |
true |
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ireallyhateirc |
just name it minetest-2.0 |
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Sheriff_U3 |
lol, I hate to use the old minetest name though, mostly cause it creates further confusion for new users. |
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Sheriff_U3 |
except in reference to MTG of course |
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rubenwardy |
write up about the ContentDB downtime two weeks ago: https://blog.rubenwardy.com/2026/04/16/contentdb-ddos/ |
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Krock |
Nice read. Thanks. |
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ireallyhateirc |
rubenwardy, can't you set up Anubis? https://anubis.techaro.lol/ |
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rubenwardy |
ah yes I'll edit that into the options |
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MTDiscord |
<bastrabun> Our git is currently scraped, too |
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ireallyhateirc |
which one |
| 19:18 |
ireallyhateirc |
if you mean Github then that's Microsoft's problem |
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MTDiscord |
<bastrabun> We're hosting a forgejo instance ourselves. That means it's our problem |
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ireallyhateirc |
use Anubis there. Codeberg uses this too |
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rubenwardy |
https://blog.rubenwardy.com/2026/04/16/contentdb-ddos/#anubis |
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MTDiscord |
<bastrabun> I might. Currently I'm serving a fake page that hopefully bores them to death |
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ireallyhateirc |
how does anubis "break the open web"? AFAIK it just runs a proof of work task, which is only a problem if you do thousands of requests |
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ireallyhateirc |
and it takes like 0.5s on my machine to perform each task |
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ireallyhateirc |
which usually happens only during the first connect |
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MTDiscord |
<luatic> From personal experience, I have had Anubis delay me accessing a website considerably longer than 0.5s, on modern machines. |
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ireallyhateirc |
could be some CPU weirdness I guess |
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rubenwardy |
it replaces a nice semantic HTML page with a JS challenge |
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bgstack15 |
Lol, "on my machine" |
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bgstack15 |
The favorite expression of developers everywhere |
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ireallyhateirc |
Hmmm fair. You could announce the license of the JS correctly, then even people with LibreJS would be able to run it. Unless you're a plain NoScript enjoyer |
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ireallyhateirc |
though that's still better than the service being inaccessible due to a DDoS |
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bgstack15 |
I would never want to compare anybody to L****T Poett****g but he famously says that about systemd and pulseaudio features: they work on his machine for his use case, so CLOSEDWONTFIX |
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ireallyhateirc |
I'll add that label to my projects as an easter egg |
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heston76 |
rubenwardy: Thanks for the detailed blog post |
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Sheriff_U3 |
Whoever has been trying to send me a pm, I'm unable to view it on my client, instead pm me on Discord if possible. |
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Sheriff_U3 |
*irc client |
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Sheriff_U3 |
Sorry I just found out about that myself, it tells me that I have a pm, but doesn't show it to me :( |
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