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01:30 [MatrxMT] <lazerbeak12345> Let's suppose that there's a mod that hasn't seen any community interaction in 3 years. All PRs to that mod are just as stale - nothing from the maintainer on that mod in 3 years. They appear to be busy with other mods.
01:30 [MatrxMT] <lazerbeak12345> I'm willing and able to maintain the mod myself.
01:30 [MatrxMT] <lazerbeak12345> What's best practice here?
01:32 [MatrxMT] <lazerbeak12345> Let's suppose that there's a mod that hasn't seen any community interaction in 3 years. All PRs to that mod are just as stale - nothing from the maintainer on that mod in 3 years. They appear to be busy with other mods. They have not replied to those PRs
01:32 [MatrxMT] <lazerbeak12345> I'm willing and able to maintain the mod myself.
01:32 [MatrxMT] <lazerbeak12345> What's best practice here?
01:33 MTDiscord <wsor4035> encourage contributing upstream, specially when the author is still active and you could ask them directly
01:34 [MatrxMT] <lazerbeak12345> what would I ask them? They have not responded to anything in 3 years.
01:34 [MatrxMT] <lazerbeak12345> what would I ask them? They have not responded to anything on that mod in 3 years.
01:34 [MatrxMT] <lazerbeak12345> what would I ask them? They have not responded to anything on that mod in 3 years. Why would they reply now?
01:35 MTDiscord <wsor4035> > you could ask them directly
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01:38 [MatrxMT] <lazerbeak12345> (totally _not_ a real scenario, btw) /s
01:38 MTDiscord <wsor4035> not like im well aware
01:38 [MatrxMT] <lazerbeak12345> I've decided to leave an issue, then I'll DM them directly after some time.
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15:35 Sheriff_U3 Getting close to Luanti 5.16, if it stays on time: https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/milestone/32
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16:17 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> feature freeze hasn't even officially begun afaik so it will likely take longer than that
16:18 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> uh
16:18 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/749727888659447960/1498357582228619366/Screenshot_20260427-181736_1.png?ex=69f0ddbd&amp;is=69ef8c3d&amp;hm=a843481f71803392ba36e91c3579eadc2f3344ca88f0a453247b4719859bf189&amp;
16:18 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> yeah okay github, whatever you say...
16:18 Krock https://i.postimg.cc/bJY1sqDw/grafik.png
16:18 Krock really, GitHub?
16:19 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> haha glad I'm not the only one
16:19 Krock https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/pulls?q=milestone%3A5.16.0
16:19 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> github is just like that now I guess
16:19 Krock > Failed to load issues.
16:19 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> took like three refreshes for it to appear for me
16:20 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> All Systems Operational ™
16:21 Krock obligatory reminder https://damrnelson.github.io/github-historical-uptime/
16:22 Krock when it finally loads I do still see Open = 0 | Closed 0  with 3 entries in the list
16:23 sfan5 hey me too https://x0.at/IcQq.png
16:23 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> somehow I find that historical github chart a bit misleading. I swear github wasn't just magical exactly 100% uptime before microsoft, there must have been a blip somewhere even back then
16:24 Krock sfan5: good use of Green Is My Pepper
16:24 Krock I've certainly seen the "overload unicorn" a few times before MS acquired it
16:25 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> yeah
16:25 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> that and the octocat falling off a ledge
16:25 Krock a vague memory of that is still present indeed
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17:10 Krock After years we have finally reached a net 0 of open PRs https://i.postimg.cc/Dwm885cC/grafik.png
17:13 crazylad I guess so
17:13 crazylad what an accomplishment for the core devs!
17:17 user333_ excellent job https://lounge.swee.codes/uploads/2161764d6d74664e/Screenshot_20260427_141539.png
17:20 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> oh my god is it really still happening
17:24 user333_ i think this means there's no issues https://lounge.swee.codes/uploads/663cb0be369be03a/Screenshot_20260427_142315.png
17:24 user333_ no issues -> no bugs or feature requests -> nothing to do
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17:37 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> there was an issue loading issues, no issues have been found
17:38 user333_ time to open an issue to the issues that there was an issue with issues
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17:56 Sheriff_U3 I have issues, but not prs.
17:57 Sheriff_U3 Kinda wondering now if Luanti will ever move over to Codeberg... At least they don't have these sort of bugs.
18:12 ireallyhateirc speaking of, codeberg is also down
18:12 crazylad whaaat
18:13 ireallyhateirc I get 502 error
18:13 Sheriff_U3 https://status.codeberg.org/status/codeberg
18:14 Sheriff_U3 Well looks like the main site and actions are both down
18:15 sfan5 well they appear to be doing a planned maintenance
18:15 Sheriff_U3 That would explain it then
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18:21 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> oh my goooood
18:21 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/749727888659447960/1498388573462728866/image.png?ex=69f0fa9a&amp;is=69efa91a&amp;hm=93f9cccfbef4d20f00e2c39e7ac0aa721463fc80f54deff6386f4df564bde633&amp;
18:21 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> I remember when github said that their migration from their own on-prem datacenters into the azure cloud would be a smooth and unnoticeable process
18:22 Sheriff_U3 lol
18:23 MTDiscord <greenxenith> Cloudflare is doing scheduled maintenance right now, I am guessing thats why a bunch if major services are having problems right now
18:23 MTDiscord <greenxenith> Of*
18:27 Sheriff_U3 Been trying to think of a logo idea for Luanti Tools, so far I've ruled out a modified Luanti logo.
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18:28 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> luanti logo but the tree crown is a wrench instead
18:29 crazylad that's exactly what I was about to say lol
18:29 Sheriff_U3 I might try that... replace the green center of the tree with blue...
18:34 MTDiscord <wsor4035> codeberg planned maintaince was 5 days ago, this looks like just downtime
18:37 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> https://social.anoxinon.de/@codebergstatus/116477707047992981
18:37 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> doesn't seem planned
18:37 MTDiscord <wsor4035> i assume sfan5 read the second to last message, but not the date
18:37 MTDiscord <wsor4035> . s/assume/guess
18:39 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> most likely
18:40 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> I tried to push something to codeberg and it just never finished. thought it was github I was pushing to first but no, it was codeberg lol
18:40 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> (I use multiple pushurls to push to both. unfortunately it's sequential and if the first one gets stuck the second will never happen)
18:40 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/749727888659447960/1498393516630609970/image.png?ex=69f0ff35&amp;is=69efadb5&amp;hm=a16947a094ae70f3bf98841d0089f46e97263ca512fa5bd508245bef1b6f8a99&amp;
18:41 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> I tend to move up github to 1st priority for that reason...
18:42 MTDiscord <wsor4035> im to lazy to maintain it, but have considered a small private personal forge that then replicates/mirrors to github/codeberg whenever they happen to be functional
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18:50 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> I feel like codeberg might just be getting too big or something, I don't know
18:53 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> a while back I mirrored the main principia repository onto git.gay as a supportive gesture after they got hit by the same offensive spam that codeberg previously had. I discovered that their instance has the ability to automatically fetch new commits for mirror repositories, which is disabled on codeberg. probably because of resource limitations if everyone's mirror repository would keep polling github for new updates
18:53 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> (but meanwhile notabug is also still in some kind of zombie state so uh, maybe the grass is not greener outside of the codeberg monolith anyway, when it comes to alternatives to github/gitlab)
18:54 user333_ small forgejo instance hosted by a friend ftw!
18:54 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> yeah
18:55 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> reminds me I should try setting up a personal cgit instance. just feels like something fun and minimal to keep around
18:55 user333_ i host my own to locally mirror a bunch of repos and it has over 1k contributions in a WEEK
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19:20 Sheriff_U3 Well gave the wrench idea a try, but in the browser tab icon looks too much like Luanti's logo still.
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20:44 Topic for #luanti is now The official Luanti (formerly Minetest) channel | General, player and modding discussion is on-topic. If in doubt, post here | Responses may take a while, be patient | Rules: https://dev.luanti.org/irc/#rules | Development: #luanti-dev | Server list: https://luanti.org/servers | IRC logs: https://irc.luanti.org/
20:55 bgstack15 I use a cgit for myself, because it's small and could integrate with ldap/kerberos auth. If I had more than just me using it locally, I would have researched one of those forge thingies.
20:56 bgstack15 cgit doesn't have any merge request interface or issue tracking, etc. That's something to consider.
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21:21 Sheriff_U3 I ended up taking the ContentDB Logo and replacing the + with a wrench.
21:21 Sheriff_U3 It'll do for now at least.
21:25 Sheriff_U3 Wait is ContentDB's logo under AGPL? (Kinda hoping it isn't, but there's nothing on it in https://github.com/luanti-org/contentdb/blob/master/LICENSE.md)
21:30 MTDiscord <warr1024> IIRC the ContentDB logo is just a modified Luanti logo, and that one is available from the engine project under a different license.
21:30 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> the luanti logo is CC-BY-SA afaik so the CDB logo would be implicitly under that license too...
21:30 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> yeah
21:30 Sheriff_U3 ok thanks
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21:52 Thermoriax anyone happen to know where the flatpak version of luanti stores worlds? Looking around in ~/.var/org.luanti.luanti wasn't really useful unless I overlooked something.
21:54 rubenwardy ~/.var/app/org.luanti.luanti/.minetest/
21:54 Sheriff_U3 It's in that directory, look under .minetest
21:54 Sheriff_U3 nvm what ruben said ^
21:55 Thermoriax >.> That's like the one place I didn't do ls -la. :P
21:55 Thermoriax Thanks.
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22:04 specing y u leave a spammer in forum?!  https://forum.luanti.org/viewtopic.php?p=371964&amp;sid=c513991d7f530ddc05a8c6aa5cf9b379#p371964
22:04 specing also, get off proprietaryHub already, thanks
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