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<shadowblitz16> The alpha and omega the first and the last |
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<shadowblitz16> A least for discord |
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MTDiscord |
<ggepic64> maybe nitro will let you see the real final boss... |
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crazylad |
this is insane. github just completely broke again |
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technomancy |
microsoft quality |
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<raspberrypimaniac> 💀 |
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sfan5 |
i took 5 minutes to make this page look nicer https://irc.luanti.org/ |
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technomancy |
hell yeah |
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Krock |
Ctrl+F5 needed |
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[MatrxMT]_ |
<birdlover32767> i demand ai slop quality NOW! |
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red-001 |
right to the slop |
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<bastrabun> Is anyone reading mails on security ... luanti ... org? Asking because I sent something there and haven't heard back. Should there be an autoresponder or did I write to some complete wrong or outdated address? |
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sfan5 |
^ rubenwardy |
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rubenwardy |
yes I've received it |
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rubenwardy |
replied |
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MTDiscord |
<bastrabun> yay, it worked. thanks! |
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technomancy |
someone mentioned a few days ago that there was some work to get require+package working again in the mod sandbox; anyone know where I could find out more about that? |
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sfan5 |
https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/pull/16036 |
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technomancy |
grand; thank you! |
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MTDiscord |
<luatic> technomancy: beware, i haven't gotten to updating that yet. i was busy with froscon over the weekend 😄 |
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MTDiscord |
<luatic> fwiw i did also explore the approach where we would reuse lua's built-in require and configure it properly, but that turned out messier and less obviously correct |
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technomancy |
luatic: oh, that's surprising; I've always had great luck re-using the built-in stuff. what kind of problems did you encounter? |
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technomancy |
when you say "configure it properly" you mean "write a sandboxed package.loaders function" or something else? |
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technomancy |
I've probably done this "sandboxed loaders" thing four or five times across various projects |
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MTDiscord |
<luatic> sandboxed package.loaders. see https://github.com/appgurueu/luanti/tree/fix/require for my WIP branch. |
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MTDiscord |
<luatic> you have gotchas like _LOADED in the registry which can give you unsanitized built-in libraries |
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MTDiscord |
<luatic> it can be made to work, but the end result will be somewhat brittle and depend on subtle require implementation details, like require obtaining package.loaders via its fenv |
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<luatic> though i suppose if we leaned more on stripping existing API tables instead of creating new ones with safe functions, it might be a tad bit more straightforward |
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<luatic> in any case a pure lua implementation is very short and in my opinion it is easier to see that it behaves as expected. |
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MTDiscord |
<luatic> and it also lets us have some nonstandard bonus features :-) |
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technomancy |
I mean... what you're describing sounds pretty straightforward |
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technomancy |
of course if you have some registry tables exposed in the sandbox, things can leak, but that's true regardless of whether you use the built-in require or your own |
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technomancy |
luatic: well, I guess it doesn't matter that much in the end as long as mods have access to the module system. is there anything specific I could help with here? if not I'll just see if I can test it out, read thru it, etc. |
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technomancy |
what's the difference between the fix/require vs feat/require branches? |
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MTDiscord |
<luatic> fix/require is the one that configures lua's require, feat/require is the one that reimplements it in lua |
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technomancy |
right, gotcha. so the second one replaces the first one? or might replace it? |
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MTDiscord |
<luatic> yes, the second one is the one i'm currently planning to pursue further. |
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technomancy |
have you thought about adding tests to demonstrate the problems you saw in the first one, to show that the second one addresses them? |
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MTDiscord |
<luatic> i should definitely do that |
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technomancy |
awesome |
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technomancy |
well, I'll read thru this tonight or tomorrow and see if I have any other ideas |
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technomancy |
another thing I'd add in tests is a proof-of-concept to show that you can nest sandboxes, because that's a ridiculously powerful feature |
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technomancy |
maybe I can try doing that |
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MTDiscord |
<luatic> better do it tomorrow, let me polish the branch first |
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technomancy |
sounds good =) |
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