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| 00:01 |
VanessaE |
(theinvsblman is who found it) |
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kahrl |
must be a really crappily written window manager if it eats that much time |
| 00:15 |
VanessaE |
it's xfce. f |
| 00:15 |
VanessaE |
-f |
| 00:15 |
VanessaE |
I use it also, but I don't see nearly the load that he did. |
| 00:15 |
VanessaE |
still moving it out of the title bar is probably a good idea, since the title of the program is not "27fps". |
| 00:15 |
VanessaE |
(e.g. don't misuse the title bar) |
| 00:15 |
Exio4 |
where is the .patch to try it? |
| 00:16 |
VanessaE |
Exio4: [08-25 19:49] <theinvsblman> lines 3357 to 3366 in game.cpp |
| 00:16 |
VanessaE |
comment those out. |
| 00:16 |
Exio4 |
ah |
| 00:22 |
kahrl |
not going to use them for the mentioned reasons, but I was curious: here are the results of testing bloom filters: http://codepad.org/NPIDm0ta |
| 00:22 |
kahrl |
(a very trivial implementation of them) |
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sfan5 |
why didn't we do anything about #881 yet? |
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thexyz |
sfan5: lol |
| 10:28 |
thexyz |
meh, I think I shouted at somebody for merging it |
| 10:28 |
thexyz |
yet it's here |
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Calinou |
make[2]: *** No rule to make target `po/du/minetest.po', needed by `locale/du/LC_MESSAGES/minetest.mo'. Stop. |
| 10:59 |
sfan5 |
run cmake again? |
| 10:59 |
Calinou |
works |
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proller |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/892/files https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/883/files https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/882 |
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celeron55 |
hmm, apparently there is a wiki that automatically scrapes articles marked for deletion in wikipedia 8) http://speedydeletion.wikia.com/wiki/Minetest |
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kahrl |
any idea how the file format for the sha1 set should look like? |
| 18:12 |
Exio4 |
hm |
| 18:13 |
Exio4 |
why should it have a way to look, isn't it is just a "bunch of hashes"? with a fixed length? :P |
| 18:13 |
kahrl |
I'm thinking of [u32] signature [u16] version [u8*20] hash over the rest of the file [u32] number N of following hashes [u8*20*N] hashes |
| 18:14 |
Exio4 |
oh |
| 18:14 |
kahrl |
am I thinking too complicated? |
| 18:15 |
kahrl |
I guess the third field isn't really needed |
| 18:16 |
proller |
maybe human-readable? with spaces, one hash per line |
| 18:16 |
kahrl |
N can be inferred from the file size |
| 18:17 |
kahrl |
proller, I think for something like minetest-cdn.net that would be too big |
| 18:17 |
proller |
or.. json 8) |
| 18:17 |
Exio4 |
nice joke man! |
| 18:17 |
kahrl |
oh god no :P |
| 18:17 |
proller |
define "too" |
| 18:17 |
proller |
10G ? |
| 18:17 |
kahrl |
proller, the full file is downloaded every time someone is missing some media file |
| 18:18 |
Exio4 |
[u32 signature] [u16 version] [u32 N-number-of-hashes] [u8*N*20 hashes] |
| 18:18 |
proller |
why download full file? |
| 18:18 |
Exio4 |
kahrl: ^? |
| 18:18 |
kahrl |
proller: suggest something else? |
| 18:18 |
proller |
why not request by hash ? |
| 18:19 |
kahrl |
because when many files are missing there are lots of failed requests |
| 18:21 |
kahrl |
see the discussion yesterday with thexyz, and he's the one hosting this stuff |
| 18:21 |
proller |
if connection gzipped - not big difference in transferred size in bimary vs plain text |
| 18:21 |
proller |
ok |
| 18:22 |
* VanessaE |
mumbles something about rsync ;) |
| 18:22 |
Exio4 |
imagine sending 2000 requests to some server and then sending other 2000 because the first didn't have the media |
| 18:22 |
Exio4 |
1000 nodes with two textures each, for example ^ |
| 18:23 |
proller |
not very big problem with keepalive |
| 18:24 |
kahrl |
not sure if httpfetch works well with keepalive when there a multiple servers |
| 18:24 |
kahrl |
are* |
| 18:24 |
thexyz |
was my suggestion with asking server what files it has ignored? |
| 18:24 |
proller |
maybe compress mods ? |
| 18:24 |
kahrl |
thexyz: huh? |
| 18:24 |
Exio4 |
wouldn't it need some server-side script? |
| 18:25 |
Exio4 |
proller: hmm? mods? how is this related |
| 18:25 |
thexyz |
kahrl: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest-dev/2013-08-25#i_3287247 |
| 18:25 |
kahrl |
I didn't see that |
| 18:26 |
proller |
Exio4, this 1000 nodes lives in ~50 mods, -> download and unpack mods |
| 18:26 |
proller |
by hashes too |
| 18:26 |
thexyz |
welp |
| 18:27 |
kahrl |
in any case there should be a way to host a remote media server without having to run scripts on it |
| 18:28 |
kahrl |
could be done by ignoring the POST data and returning the full list |
| 18:28 |
thexyz |
true |
| 18:30 |
kahrl |
so I think every server but minetest-cdn.net will probably use a static file, because it's easiest |
| 18:30 |
thexyz |
why do you need [u8*20] hash over the rest of the file [u32] number N of following hashes then? |
| 18:30 |
kahrl |
as I said, I don't |
| 18:31 |
thexyz |
you only said you don't need third field |
| 18:32 |
kahrl |
<kahrl> N can be inferred from the file size |
| 18:33 |
kahrl |
what do you think about binary vs. text? |
| 18:34 |
thexyz |
binary |
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| 19:08 |
kahrl |
http://paste.dy.fi/gXI some leaked code |
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| 21:20 |
harrison |
http://youtu.be/kJd096BFFUQ |
| 21:41 |
thexyz |
harrison: where do I download that? also, how's that related to minetest development? |
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| 22:31 |
PilzAdam |
proller, have you written this: http://dev.minetest.net/TODO#Rewrite_falling_code_to_c.2B.2B ? |
| 22:31 |
proller |
нуы |
| 22:31 |
proller |
yes |
| 22:31 |
PilzAdam |
how does a queue in the core help here? isnt the problem that there are too many entities? |
| 22:32 |
proller |
processing them every step by 1000 in core will 10x+ faster |
| 22:33 |
proller |
step queue + update around queue |
| 22:46 |
thexyz |
proller: any idea https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=7039 |
| 22:48 |
proller |
disable GLES ? |
| 22:49 |
harrison |
thexyz do not worry your experience is valid |
| 22:49 |
thexyz |
do you know why it says -- Found system opengles2 library /usr/lib64/libGLESv2.so;/usr/lib64/libGLESv2.so;/usr/lib64/libSM.so;/usr/lib64/libICE.so;/usr/lib64/libX11.so;/usr/lib64/libXext.so |
| 22:50 |
thexyz |
and then make[2]: *** No rule to make target `/usr/lib64/libGLESv2.so', needed by `/var/tmp/portage/games-action/minetest-0.4.7/work/minetest-0.4.7/bin/minetest'. Stop. |
| 22:50 |
thexyz |
harrison: hm? |
| 22:50 |
harrison |
namaste |
| 22:54 |
thexyz |
harrison: o-okay |
| 22:55 |
proller |
thexyz, strange, something in cmake |
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