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| 00:05 |
VanessaE |
paramat: can you update your saveschems repo to reflect your latest tree changes, please? |
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paramat |
i noticed an error in the jungletree from sapling schem, fixing in a moment |
| 04:51 |
VanessaE |
[09-04 20:05] <VanessaE> paramat: can you update your saveschems repo to reflect your latest tree changes, please? |
| 04:51 |
paramat |
is done =) |
| 04:51 |
VanessaE |
:D |
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| 05:06 |
paramat |
game#664 |
| 05:06 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/664 -- Default/schematics: Fix root error in jungletree from sapling by paramat |
| 05:06 |
paramat |
now merging |
| 05:11 |
paramat |
complete |
| 05:12 |
VanessaE |
don't forget your saveschems repo again :) |
| 05:13 |
paramat |
that already has the fix in it |
| 05:13 |
VanessaE |
ok |
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svenstaro |
so |
| 07:26 |
svenstaro |
you guys all had a chance to test the new arhclinux packages |
| 07:27 |
svenstaro |
does it work ok for you? |
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sfan5 |
svenstaro: i can test it if you tell me where to get it |
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svenstaro |
sfan5: normal arch way |
| 07:50 |
svenstaro |
pacman -S minetest |
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svenstaro |
minetest |
| 07:50 |
svenstaro |
crash or not? |
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sfan5 |
svenstaro: no crash |
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svenstaro |
sweet |
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| 09:42 |
Megaf |
svenstaro: Hi there, hows things? |
| 09:45 |
Megaf |
#3130 |
| 09:45 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/3130 -- segfault on startup for irrlicht 1.8.2 on arch linux |
| 09:45 |
Megaf |
svenstaro: irrlicht still broken |
| 09:55 |
sfan5 |
uh |
| 09:55 |
sfan5 |
Megaf: works for me with 0.4.12-2 from the repos |
| 09:56 |
sfan5 |
also the minetest i build from source works with the normal irrlicht |
| 09:57 |
sfan5 |
% pacman -Q irrlicht |
| 09:57 |
sfan5 |
irrlicht 1.8.1-2 |
| 09:58 |
svenstaro |
sfan5: so it works for you now in all configurations? |
| 09:59 |
svenstaro |
as long as you use irrlicht from the repos |
| 09:59 |
sfan5 |
yes |
| 09:59 |
sfan5 |
both minetest from the repos and the one i compiled myself work |
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| 10:15 |
est31 |
sfan5, do you use gcc or clang for compilation? |
| 10:15 |
est31 |
I guess clang, no? |
| 10:15 |
sfan5 |
yes clang |
| 10:16 |
est31 |
can you do a re-clone and try with gcc |
| 10:16 |
est31 |
because thats the theory |
| 10:16 |
sfan5 |
sure |
| 10:16 |
est31 |
svenstaro has just changed compilers for the irrlicht headers |
| 10:16 |
est31 |
err |
| 10:16 |
est31 |
irrlicht package* |
| 10:17 |
est31 |
so its probable that if minetest still fails it might be a compiler problem as well |
| 10:17 |
est31 |
and the problem lurking inside irrlicht headers |
| 10:20 |
Megaf |
est31: other topic, I noticed that cpp files for leveldb and gettext and perhaps redis and some others are compile even tho they are disabled with cmake |
| 10:20 |
Megaf |
s/compile/compiled |
| 10:21 |
est31 |
well they are compiled yes |
| 10:21 |
Megaf |
fixing CMakeLists.txt on src with some ifs might solve that |
| 10:21 |
est31 |
but they consist of an #ifdef USE_REDIS at the start |
| 10:21 |
est31 |
and an #ifdef at the end |
| 10:21 |
est31 |
so it shouldnt matter too much |
| 10:21 |
Megaf |
why are we wasting time and cpu compiling them if they are not going to be used? |
| 10:22 |
est31 |
they aren't compiled |
| 10:22 |
sfan5 |
est31: nope works |
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Megaf |
sfan5: define nope works |
| 10:22 |
sfan5 |
works with gcc too |
| 10:22 |
est31 |
which gcc version? |
| 10:22 |
Megaf |
ok, so we have to go deeper |
| 10:23 |
sfan5 |
5.2.0 |
| 10:23 |
est31 |
okay theory busted then |
| 10:23 |
* Megaf |
blames Arch/Kernel once again |
| 10:23 |
Megaf |
xP |
| 10:24 |
Megaf |
sfan5: what kernel are you on? |
| 10:24 |
sfan5 |
4.1.5-1-ARCH |
| 10:24 |
est31 |
this means your arch system is fully up to date? |
| 10:24 |
est31 |
dont know what version numbers mean on rolling release |
| 10:24 |
Megaf |
sfan5: other guy with the problem was using the Zen kernel |
| 10:25 |
sfan5 |
est31: version numbers mean exactly the same |
| 10:25 |
sfan5 |
and no im not up to date |
| 10:25 |
Megaf |
you are not using the Zen kernel and it works for you |
| 10:25 |
sfan5 |
havent upgraded to linux 4.1.6-1 yet |
| 10:25 |
svenstaro |
it's not |
| 10:25 |
svenstaro |
4.1.6 is new |
| 10:25 |
Megaf |
$ uname -a |
| 10:25 |
Megaf |
Linux ToshSam 4.1-6.dmz.1-liquorix-amd64 #1 ZEN SMP PREEMPT Debian 4.1-9 (2015-08-17) x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 10:25 |
svenstaro |
4.2 in testing |
| 10:26 |
svenstaro |
someone report a bug to irrlicht |
| 10:26 |
est31 |
sfan5, was it broken for you before the 1.8.2-2 upgrade? |
| 10:26 |
Megaf |
well, it works on 4.1.6, but I'm using GCC 4.9 |
| 10:26 |
svenstaro |
I don't like sourceforge |
| 10:26 |
sfan5 |
it was never broken for me |
| 10:26 |
Megaf |
svenstaro: nobody does |
| 10:26 |
est31 |
but you had 1.8.2-1? |
| 10:27 |
sfan5 |
[2014-07-17 20:54] [PACMAN] installed irrlicht (1.8.1-2) |
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| 10:28 |
est31 |
ah you still have 1.8.1? |
| 10:28 |
sfan5 |
yes |
| 10:28 |
est31 |
well, then you arent affected. |
| 10:28 |
est31 |
the bug is with 1.8.2 |
| 10:28 |
sfan5 |
I'm updating right now |
| 10:28 |
sfan5 |
i can try with gcc and clang again |
| 10:31 |
est31 |
at least we know now that gcc 5.2 with 1.8.1 is perfectly fine |
| 10:31 |
sfan5 |
clang 3.6.2 too |
| 10:31 |
svenstaro |
mh |
| 10:32 |
svenstaro |
I'm gonna compile minetest with clang for fun and put it into arch |
| 10:32 |
sfan5 |
my minetest compiled with 1.8.1 headers still works |
| 10:32 |
svenstaro |
maybe it's the headers after all |
| 10:35 |
svenstaro |
actually no I'm not as it's not my package |
| 10:37 |
est31 |
I wonder, if anybody can reproduce the crash with irrlicht 1.8.2-2, and the binary 0.4.12 minetest package |
| 10:38 |
sfan5 |
i can't |
| 10:38 |
sfan5 |
irrlicht 1.8.2-2 and minetest 0.4.12-2 works |
| 10:39 |
sfan5 |
compiled from source works though |
| 10:39 |
sfan5 |
s/works/crashes/ |
| 10:39 |
sfan5 |
that means it's probably the 1.8.2 headers |
| 10:39 |
RealBadAngel |
1.8.2-2 was supposed to be fine |
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| 10:39 |
est31 |
well, the 1.8.2-2 binary is fine |
| 10:40 |
est31 |
the 1.8.2-2 headers arent, as it seems |
| 10:40 |
est31 |
sfan5, which compiler did you try? |
| 10:40 |
sfan5 |
gcc |
| 10:41 |
sfan5 |
same backtrace as in the issue |
| 10:41 |
est31 |
hrmmm, is getting another gcc version as easy as downloading the tarball, extracting doing ./configure && make and this is it? |
| 10:42 |
sfan5 |
you forgot make install but yes |
| 10:42 |
est31 |
or do I need toolchain, libstd etc as well? |
| 10:42 |
sfan5 |
thats included in the gcc source |
| 10:42 |
sfan5 |
but you probably want to use a build script that builds a pkg for your distro to make sure you break the gcc package |
| 10:42 |
sfan5 |
+don't |
| 10:43 |
est31 |
well, I'll let gcc set its "install" dir into /home/$somewhere |
| 10:50 |
sfan5 |
huh strange |
| 10:50 |
sfan5 |
compiling minetest with clang (w/ the irrlicht 1.8.2-2) does not lead to a crash |
| 10:51 |
est31 |
thats what should happen, after the theory |
| 10:51 |
est31 |
1.8.1-1 was completely broken, binary and headers so that even nrzkt while he uses clang couldnt start the binary |
| 10:52 |
est31 |
but 1.8.2-2 seemed to fix it for him |
| 10:52 |
sfan5 |
<est31> 1.8.1-1 was completely broken, |
| 10:52 |
sfan5 |
exact opposite for me |
| 10:52 |
sfan5 |
1.8.1-1 always worked fine |
| 10:52 |
est31 |
ah sorry |
| 10:52 |
est31 |
meant 1.8.2-1 |
| 10:52 |
sfan5 |
ah |
| 10:54 |
est31 |
sorry, it seems I've read nrz wrongly, he hasnt said that |
| 10:54 |
svenstaro |
uhm |
| 10:54 |
svenstaro |
so basically clang is k |
| 10:54 |
est31 |
well, at least you confirm the theory xD |
| 10:54 |
svenstaro |
can you override all the minetest optimization flags while trying with gcc? |
| 10:54 |
svenstaro |
like, just -O0 |
| 10:55 |
est31 |
this bug is much better tested with the irrlicht examples |
| 10:55 |
est31 |
they compile faster :) |
| 10:55 |
svenstaro |
true |
| 10:55 |
svenstaro |
but I'm busy right now, somebody go do that :P |
| 10:58 |
svenstaro |
I very much suspect it's an optimization flags |
| 10:58 |
svenstaro |
irrlicht optimitzes extremely aggressively |
| 10:58 |
svenstaro |
and gcc is becoming better at removing unnecessary stuff from binaries |
| 10:58 |
svenstaro |
so maybe irrlicht was building on undefined bevahior, strictly speaking |
| 11:04 |
est31 |
in both arch and debian, minetest is the only package in official package sources that depends on the irrlicht package |
| 11:05 |
Megaf |
hm, if I have gcc 4.9 and gcc 5.1 installed on my system, which one will Minetest use? |
| 11:05 |
Megaf |
when I run cmake and make |
| 11:06 |
sfan5 |
cmake tells you which compiler it uses |
| 11:06 |
sfan5 |
(when you run it for the first time, that means no CMakeCache.txt file present) |
| 11:06 |
Megaf |
-- The C compiler identification is GNU 4.9.3 |
| 11:06 |
Megaf |
ok |
| 11:10 |
svenstaro |
Megaf: you can overwrite it by setting CXX |
| 11:10 |
Megaf |
cmake options here is not complete http://dev.minetest.net/CMake_Options |
| 11:10 |
Megaf |
svenstaro: I have no idea how to do that |
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* Megaf |
researches |
| 11:16 |
svenstaro |
Megaf: delete your cmake cache |
| 11:16 |
svenstaro |
then run CXX=g++-5.2 cmake |
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sfan5 |
svenstaro: also happens with -O0 |
| 11:19 |
sfan5 |
gcc |
| 11:19 |
svenstaro |
meh |
| 11:19 |
sfan5 |
Megaf: the compilers options are not specific to minetest and are in the cmake documentation, that wiki page only contains minetest specific stuff (mostly) |
| 11:22 |
est31 |
but it might be outdated for some dependencies recently added, be warned |
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Megaf |
I cant compile with gcc5, I dont know what to put in CXX=, it cant find the compiler |
| 11:31 |
Megaf |
I have llvm/clang too |
| 11:33 |
Megaf |
gcc-5: error trying to exec 'cc1plus': execvp: No such file or directory |
| 11:33 |
Megaf |
hm |
| 11:35 |
Megaf |
sfan5: what do you type to use clang? |
| 11:36 |
sfan5 |
CC=clang CXX=clang++ cmake . |
| 11:37 |
Megaf |
ok, not my fault then |
| 11:38 |
Megaf |
sfan5: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lstdc++ |
| 11:38 |
sfan5 |
fix your system i guess |
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I guess I will stick to gcc 4.9 |
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Calinou |
I successfully learned Gulp, maybe minetest.net will use it in some time. |
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Calinou |
I have a really good workflow set up here: https://gist.github.com/Calinou/3cd3d529a6d3dabb911e |
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Calinou |
but it does not work on Windows (ENOENT error on "spawn jekyll"), even though Jekyll is installed and in PATH |
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