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RealBadAngel |
hmmmm, remember that irrlicht parrallax material code? if there is real hardware lighting, why internal parallax shader is calculating per pixel lighting? for fun? ;) |
| 02:21 |
RealBadAngel |
about SSAO, seems to be quite easy to make with postprocessin if we get depth map rendered |
| 02:22 |
RealBadAngel |
and normal map ofc |
| 02:22 |
RealBadAngel |
both i can propably easily get thx to irrrenderer |
| 02:22 |
RealBadAngel |
https://github.com/McNopper/OpenGL/blob/master/Example28/shader/ssao.frag.glsl |
| 02:24 |
RealBadAngel |
also, updated #3610 with the setting |
| 02:24 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/3610 -- Use meshes to display inventory items by RealBadAngel |
| 02:45 |
RealBadAngel |
updated #3612 (minor tweaks and some new screenshots) |
| 02:45 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/3612 -- Filmic HDR tone mapping by RealBadAngel |
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sofar |
did you get rid of the unuseds? |
| 03:24 |
RealBadAngel |
you mean that "hoovering" stuff? |
| 03:24 |
sofar |
you had 2 unused things. a 'colors' thing and a 'nodedef' thing |
| 03:24 |
sofar |
I commented in your PR |
| 03:25 |
RealBadAngel |
ouch, checking that now |
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sofar |
my gcc warns on those |
| 03:27 |
sofar |
so, easily spotted |
| 03:29 |
RealBadAngel |
i can see the colors, but wheres unused nodedef stuff? |
| 03:30 |
sofar |
all the way on top of a very long section of deletes |
| 03:33 |
RealBadAngel |
sofar, meanwhile you can retry tonemapping, ive tweaked it a bit |
| 03:39 |
RealBadAngel |
ok, removed that unused stuff |
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| 04:49 |
sofar |
ok, merged both pulls |
| 04:49 |
sofar |
testing now |
| 04:50 |
sofar |
RealBadAngel: compile is clean now |
| 04:50 |
RealBadAngel |
good |
| 04:55 |
sofar |
I'm losing 2-3 fps with those 2 patches |
| 04:55 |
sofar |
normally I'd sit at 59-60 fps |
| 04:55 |
RealBadAngel |
tonemapping takes a bit GPU time, thats normal |
| 04:55 |
sofar |
with the inventory mesh patches and tonemapping, I'm at 56-57 |
| 04:56 |
RealBadAngel |
meshes can also take a bit of time, ive measured drawing 1 item before, it was slightly slower than displaying texture |
| 04:57 |
sofar |
I like the result, though, did you up the values? |
| 04:57 |
RealBadAngel |
with tonemapping? |
| 04:58 |
sofar |
it feels way brighter and saturated now |
| 04:59 |
RealBadAngel |
yes, ive changed filter settings a bit |
| 04:59 |
RealBadAngel |
decided to go back to default settings from paper |
| 05:00 |
sofar |
oh wow dusk is interesting |
| 05:00 |
RealBadAngel |
make a screenshot :) |
| 05:04 |
RealBadAngel |
#3616 |
| 05:04 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/3616 -- Allow to set shader for a node, add special and normal texture defs f… by RealBadAngel |
| 05:04 |
RealBadAngel |
^basically fixed old PR, rebased and without forcing filtering which was unpopular |
| 05:08 |
RealBadAngel |
havent raised protocol, because it was raised a moment before |
| 05:09 |
RealBadAngel |
and damn, as usual 2 tabs sneaked in ;) |
| 05:15 |
sofar |
http://imgur.com/4o5KpVe |
| 05:16 |
sofar |
shoddy video montage, I admit |
| 05:19 |
sofar |
wasn't there a way to set day/night speed? |
| 05:20 |
RealBadAngel |
time_speed = x i think |
| 05:21 |
RealBadAngel |
yeah |
| 05:23 |
RealBadAngel |
ok, time to fix #3166 now |
| 05:23 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/3166 -- Send to clients only changed node metadata instad of whole mapblock by RealBadAngel |
| 05:24 |
RealBadAngel |
thats gonna hurt ;) |
| 05:28 |
sofar |
https://youtu.be/Mt67YSdScz8 |
| 05:30 |
RealBadAngel |
so i guess you like how it feels now? |
| 05:31 |
sofar |
this is a far better graphical enhancement than bumpmapping and normalmaps, IMHO |
| 05:31 |
sofar |
gameplay this has actual value |
| 05:31 |
sofar |
plus I've always found MT to be dark |
| 05:33 |
RealBadAngel |
i can add Reinhard and Burgess tonemaps too, but imho Uncharted2 is way nicer than those |
| 05:34 |
RealBadAngel |
Terasology has those 3, but U2 is default |
| 05:34 |
sofar |
note that I play without normalmaps and bumpmapping |
| 05:34 |
RealBadAngel |
matter of taste |
| 05:35 |
RealBadAngel |
on the other hand bumpmapping will work quite different with moving sun |
| 05:35 |
* sofar |
scratches head on how to add weapon hitting wear to the game |
| 05:35 |
RealBadAngel |
at the moment to see shadows you have to move the camera |
| 05:36 |
RealBadAngel |
sun will move shadows on its own |
| 05:36 |
sofar |
nod, that's better |
| 05:44 |
RealBadAngel |
mmmmm took a break from coding to read a bit |
| 05:44 |
RealBadAngel |
void irr::video::CRenderer::createDefaultPipeline() |
| 05:44 |
RealBadAngel |
{ |
| 05:44 |
RealBadAngel |
clearMRTs(); |
| 05:44 |
RealBadAngel |
createMRT("deferred-mrt-color-dont-use-this-name-thanks", irr::video::ECF_A8R8G8B8); |
| 05:44 |
RealBadAngel |
createMRT("deferred-mrt-normal-dont-use-this-name-thanks", irr::video::ECF_A8R8G8B8); |
| 05:44 |
RealBadAngel |
createMRT("deferred-mrt-depth-dont-use-this-name-thanks", irr::video::ECF_G16R16F); |
| 05:44 |
RealBadAngel |
i like irrrenderer more and more |
| 05:45 |
RealBadAngel |
looks like SSAO will be a piece of cake |
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* sofar |
fiddles more with TNT and doors |
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sofar |
nrzkt: so I'd like to know, how do I make one function that I can pass different objects into.. :^) |
| 07:23 |
sofar |
cuz then I'd be able to A::*getNodeNoEx() |
| 07:23 |
sofar |
at least, docs tell me that that is possible |
| 07:26 |
nrzkt |
different object ? why ? |
| 07:27 |
RealBadAngel |
hmmm, actually rendering to multile RTTs is even easier |
| 07:27 |
sofar |
MapNode->getNodeNoEx vs. vmanip->getNodeNoEx |
| 07:27 |
RealBadAngel |
*multiple |
| 07:27 |
nrzkt |
sofar, it will be difficult then, if there is no inheritance |
| 07:28 |
sofar |
yes, that's what the docs tell me as well :) |
| 07:28 |
sofar |
plus plenty of stackoverflow pages |
| 07:29 |
nrzkt |
where do you need to do that ? |
| 07:30 |
sofar |
https://github.com/sofar/minetest/commit/3627faa40011867b78575f270dff199d42c64b9a#diff-746d6155906a987734997d4cad358153L275 |
| 07:30 |
sofar |
and just below there again |
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| 07:32 |
nrzkt |
sofar then maybe a void* could be the solution |
| 07:32 |
nrzkt |
a static wrapper which take position + void * |
| 07:32 |
nrzkt |
and you pass the object |
| 07:32 |
nrzkt |
into the void* |
| 07:33 |
sofar |
you know, I totally understand the concepts and what you're saying |
| 07:33 |
sofar |
but I just seem to fall over the details ::*of (void)implementing* that& |
| 07:34 |
sofar |
hence it taking me forever to zone in on a solution |
| 07:34 |
sofar |
I probably already had it all coded up except for some stupid mistake |
| 07:34 |
sofar |
and blew it because gcc produced a reproduction of shakespeare's MacBeth |
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| 10:36 |
Calinou |
why do such basic issues get so much opposition? https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/3615 |
| 10:36 |
Calinou |
it's things Minecraft had since 2010 |
| 10:43 |
Icedream |
that's because Minetest isn't equal to Minecraft |
| 10:43 |
Icedream |
there will be people who expect things to be different and who want them to be different smh |
| 10:46 |
Calinou |
most people already consider Minetest to be a free Minecraft replacement, so why not fill the gap? |
| 10:46 |
Calinou |
people shouldn't be ashamed of cloning |
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Icedream |
Calinou, as much as I prefer the logic from Minecraft regarding swords, there is a difference between "most" and "all" people :P |
| 10:52 |
Icedream |
some will just want it to be different after all |
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Calinou |
Minecraft PvP logic is quite bad, it encourages button mashing too much |
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Icedream |
not a fan of Minecraft PvP myself either |
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red-001 |
does minetest.override_item |
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red-001 |
still work? I can't get it to |
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sofar |
red-001: about TNT, by having on_blast return an itemstack, the TNT mod can make itemstacks with 3-4 items in it, instead of having 99 separate itemstacks created by each mod that gets called through on_blast |
| 18:26 |
red-001 |
yeah good idea |
| 18:31 |
red-001 |
does kilbith have a different name in IRC? |
| 18:31 |
Krock |
afaik no |
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| 18:31 |
Krock |
minetest.override_item("default:tree", {description="not a tree"}) should work fine |
| 18:37 |
red-001 |
minetest.override_item("default:stone", { |
| 18:37 |
red-001 |
on_blast = stone_on_blast(pos) }) didn't work |
| 18:38 |
red-001 |
I'm trying to add an on_blast callback |
| 18:38 |
Krock |
is stone_on_blast a function in the place you call it? |
| 18:38 |
red-001 |
yes |
| 18:38 |
Krock |
how about "on_blast = stone_on_blast"? |
| 18:39 |
Krock |
because pos is nil ni that case |
| 18:39 |
Krock |
s/ni/in/ |
| 18:40 |
red-001 |
sever crash is all I got |
| 18:40 |
red-001 |
maybe my function doesn't work |
| 18:40 |
Krock |
without any error message? \o/ |
| 18:42 |
red-001 |
it was an error inside my function |
| 18:42 |
Krock |
case solved? |
| 18:42 |
red-001 |
maybe |
| 18:42 |
red-001 |
it was set_node(pos) |
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| 18:43 |
red-001 |
but I say yes |
| 18:44 |
red-001 |
yeah thanks |
| 18:44 |
Krock |
!next |
| 18:44 |
ShadowBot |
Another satisfied customer. Next! |
| 18:45 |
sofar |
on_blast is (pos, intensity) I believe |
| 18:45 |
sofar |
are you trying the on_blast API change? |
| 18:48 |
red-001 |
no |
| 18:48 |
red-001 |
make a mod |
| 18:48 |
red-001 |
the API change would be useful |
| 18:49 |
red-001 |
I'm adding changing stone to lava or gravel |
| 18:49 |
red-001 |
on blast |
| 18:49 |
sofar |
oh haha |
| 18:49 |
sofar |
why not stone->cobble? |
| 18:50 |
red-001 |
hmm |
| 18:50 |
red-001 |
that might be nice |
| 18:51 |
Krock |
gravel is what you get when using C4 on stone |
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kaadmy |
lol |
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kaadmy |
or TNT in MT |
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| 18:51 |
Krock |
no, TNT is less explosive and will output cobble |
| 18:51 |
red-001 |
cobble only if intensity is low |
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est31 |
kaadmy, exploding MT? we'd be without competition thats unfair! |
| 18:52 |
red-001 |
well minetest is hardly realistic |
| 18:52 |
Krock |
best thing would be to make it range-dependant |
| 18:52 |
est31 |
ahh |
| 18:52 |
est31 |
MC |
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* est31 |
ruined joke |
| 18:52 |
* Krock |
doesn't get the joke |
| 18:52 |
red-001 |
one more thing to add to tnt api PR |
| 18:54 |
sofar |
so the TNT mod should calculate distance to center, and reduce intensity |
| 18:54 |
sofar |
and pass that intensity to each mod |
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red-001 |
does it do that? |
| 18:54 |
sofar |
the mod can then decide based on intensity what itemstack to return |
| 18:55 |
red-001 |
or not? |
| 18:55 |
sofar |
it does already give intensity to the mod |
| 18:55 |
sofar |
so the on_blast() needs to look at that value |
| 18:56 |
red-001 |
it always set intensity to one |
| 18:56 |
* red-001 |
sigh |
| 18:56 |
sofar |
yes, that needs to be fixed in the TNT mod |
| 18:57 |
sofar |
that 1 needs to change to an inverse cubic function |
| 18:58 |
sofar |
plus the destroy function doesn't even get passed the original blast position |
| 18:59 |
red-001 |
why pass that if intensity is fixed? |
| 18:59 |
sofar |
TNT is a typical pilzadam mod: good idea but half-finished |
| 19:00 |
sofar |
forked 5x by other folks that are now keeping it out of tree and have improved it |
| 19:00 |
sofar |
... sorry, but it's a pattern I'm noticing |
| 19:00 |
red-001 |
game#677 </self_promotion> |
| 19:00 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/677 -- Waterlilies are inappropriately walkable |
| 19:01 |
red-001 |
game#667 |
| 19:01 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/667 -- Add tnt API. by red-001 |
| 19:01 |
sofar |
meanwhile I send a PR to pilzadam's github trees and they just rot away |
| 19:01 |
sfan5 |
some people have lifes |
| 19:01 |
sofar |
I've asked him if he wants to move his mods to minetest-mods |
| 19:01 |
sofar |
no answer |
| 19:02 |
sofar |
sfan5: but he responds to minetest PR's in 3 seconds |
| 19:02 |
sfan5 |
uh |
| 19:02 |
sfan5 |
try s/lifes/priorities/ |
| 19:02 |
sfan5 |
might still work |
| 19:03 |
sofar |
anyway, I offered to help him with that by allowing others to co-maintain some of the mods he's written |
| 19:03 |
sofar |
right now nobody can commit in pilzadam/carts or pilzadam/nether e.g. |
| 19:04 |
sofar |
I get it, though, this is exactly why I started minetest-mods. I just wish people would let their mod code free |
| 19:04 |
sofar |
I don't want to fork it by myself |
| 19:04 |
sofar |
people should give it themselves |
| 19:05 |
sofar |
sorry, rant, bad. shut up sofar. |
| 19:05 |
red-001 |
def.on_blast(vector.new(pos), 1) |
| 19:05 |
red-001 |
what does vector.new do? |
| 19:06 |
Krock |
creaqtes {x=0,y=0,z=0} |
| 19:06 |
sofar |
vector is documented on the dev wiki only |
| 19:06 |
Krock |
and or, with an arg, fills it as a copy |
| 19:08 |
red-001 |
so that does nothing? |
| 19:08 |
red-001 |
aren't positions already vectors? |
| 19:09 |
Krock |
yes but it removes the table reference |
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red-001 |
so is that faster? |
| 19:10 |
Krock |
t = {x = 1} function test(mytable) mytable.x = 2 end test(t) print(dump(t)) |
| 19:10 |
Krock |
will return x = 2 |
| 19:10 |
Krock |
it's more secure |
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red-001 |
ohhh |
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red-001 |
did glass fragments get removed? |
| 19:47 |
sofar |
no |
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paramat |
will merge game 800 805 in a moment. 805 is trivial, biomes before ores as ores can now be per-biome |
| 21:07 |
sofar |
ah, the slab one is trivial too (although more impactful I suppose) |
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paramat |
now merging |
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paramat |
merged |
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