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paramat |
hi hmmmm sorry to ask again, please could you review #4002 sometime? one of the last milestones delaying freeze |
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ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4002 -- Mgv7: Combine mountain terrain generation with base terrain generation by paramat |
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paramat |
now merging game#1040 game#1044 |
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ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/1040 -- Doors: Use LBM instead of ABM to convert doors. by sofar |
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ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/1044 -- Flowers: Make flower spread a public function to enable override by paramat |
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Warr1024 |
is there a way in the mod api to save a schematic including node metadata? |
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paramat |
hm doubt it |
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paramat |
schematics only contain node id, param1, param2 |
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Warr1024 |
is there any reasonably good way to serialize node marialize node metadata? |
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Warr1024 |
s/mari/seri/ |
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Warr1024 |
it looks like to_table() is kicking back raw InvRefs instead of tables, so I'd have to do this complex bunch of loops... |
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paramat |
if you see her on channels 'Sokomine' is perhaps the expert on this |
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Warr1024 |
ah, thanks |
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paramat |
merges complete |
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paramat |
and she has some impressive schematic related mods on the forum |
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DI3HARD139 |
How can I change the path for CURL? |
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paramat |
hmmmm freeze is hopefully this coming weekend, in case there's anything you feel needs to go in |
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paramat |
will merge game#1017 in a moment |
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ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/1017 -- Fire: Higher chance of removing flammable nodes by paramat |
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paramat |
now merging |
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paramat |
merged |
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paramat |
VanessaE you'll now need to override the flower spread function to include the check for 'group:flora_block' :) |
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VanessaE |
yep. I know. |
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VanessaE |
I'll wait for release before I change that, since feature freeze is imminentg |
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VanessaE |
imminent* |
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When choosing which spatialindex-*.lib file, do I use the -32 or _c-32? |
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celeron55 |
things seem to be working now again, exactly at UTC 9:00 |
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hmmmm |
omg |
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hmmmm |
sp500 hit 2,100 |
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hmmmm |
first time this happened in over 6 months |
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Krock |
sorry, what? |
| 15:26 |
hmmmm |
whoops wrong channel |
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Krock |
lol |
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sofar |
hmmmm: also, INTC earnings today! |
| 16:00 |
Fixer |
yeah, and we are stuck with recession and shit500 hit -2100 :/ |
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* sofar |
wonders if his stock will go up or down :o |
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* Fixer |
has no stock |
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Fixer |
some people actually discuss that kind of indexes, over here it is: please raise my wages, my pansion, lower pay for heating/electricity don't care how la-la-la |
| 16:04 |
sofar |
here it is: better healthcare, stop making people go bankrupt over health issues, kill all politicians |
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Fixer |
i forgot last part :) |
| 16:04 |
sofar |
um wait, that last thing is supposed to read: kill all politicians!!!! |
| 16:04 |
sofar |
anyway |
| 16:04 |
Fixer |
yes, states have problems with health services, even i know that |
| 16:05 |
Fixer |
canada rocks /cough/ |
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hmmmm |
sofar, you work at $INTC yes? |
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hmmmm |
your thoughts on the upcoming layoffs? |
| 17:16 |
sofar |
I can't comment on that, obviously. |
| 17:16 |
sofar |
but, if you look at any company this size, you'll see that stuff like that happens every year. |
| 17:19 |
hmmmm |
can't imagine it helps employee morale |
| 17:19 |
hmmmm |
this is a layoff on the magnitude of MS's |
| 17:21 |
sofar |
rumors are rumors |
| 17:23 |
hmmmm |
he he he, just hope it's not your entire QA/validation department! |
| 17:23 |
hmmmm |
intel has been getting sloppy with cpu validation lately, lots more errors in the silicon these days it seems |
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sofar |
our ClearLinux QA is part of our team, not part of a separate organization. |
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sfan5 |
still better than AMD |
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hmmmm |
AMD cuts corners |
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hmmmm |
literally |
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hmmmm |
idunno man, if i were a gambling man i'd go long on amd. Zen is going to be competitive simply because intel has not been making any real improvements in ipc lately. |
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sfan5 |
i've found intel cpus to simply be more powerful in the past |
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sfan5 |
maybe i've tested the wrong ones though |
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Fixer |
intel is nice, i hope amd catch up with zen |
| 17:40 |
Fixer |
i've used AMD Duron 900MHz many years ago as CPU |
| 17:40 |
Fixer |
Athlons were good competitors to P3 |
| 17:43 |
Krock |
nut just against P3 IMO |
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Krock |
*not |
| 17:44 |
hmmmm |
back when i was rocking my athlon 64 3500+ the mapgen took literally 2 minutes to make a single chunk |
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Fixer |
hmmmm, not good, i was playing on P4 2.8GHz and mapgen was fine |
| 17:45 |
hmmmm |
but now that i'm Intel Inside(tm) and i made several huge optimizations it now takes 60 milliseconds |
| 17:46 |
Fixer |
i doubt that was Athlons fault |
| 17:46 |
Calinou |
Fixer, I think people are a bit too hopeful for Zen |
| 17:47 |
Calinou |
the last CPU "revolution" was like a decade ago... |
| 17:47 |
Krock |
2 minutes for a chunk? go include LuaJIT instantly! |
| 17:47 |
Fixer |
Calinou, it is not revo, they will just use the same architecture as Intel iirc |
| 17:48 |
Fixer |
"Reports from AMD indicate that Zen will abandon modular CMT (Clustered Multithread) for a [17]SMT (Simultaneous Multithreading) microarchitecture, which is similar to, but not the same model that Intel uses." |
| 17:48 |
Fixer |
that should help a lot |
| 17:49 |
Krock |
Calinou, a decade ago but good processors are still expensive |
| 17:51 |
Calinou |
Fixer, maybe they'll reach Sandy/Ivy Bridge level only... :( |
| 17:51 |
Calinou |
there's little hope that they can reach even Haswell level |
| 17:51 |
Fixer |
Calinou, that will be good enough |
| 17:51 |
Calinou |
yeah but in comparison to Intel's Skylake, it'd fall short |
| 17:51 |
Calinou |
especially if you find a deal on an Intel CPU (I've seen an i7-6700K for €350) |
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Fixer |
Calinou, i think last big jump was before SandyBridge or just after it |
| 17:51 |
Calinou |
there's still quite a bit of difference between Sandy Bridge and Skylake :) |
| 17:51 |
Calinou |
both frequencies and IPCs have increased |
| 17:52 |
Fixer |
too costly, sorry, we have serious devaluation, no more toys :( |
| 17:52 |
Calinou |
not by much, but they still did |
| 17:52 |
Calinou |
Fixer, if only one could download hardware... :D |
| 17:52 |
Fixer |
and dollar wages |
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Krock |
Calinou, that would be like when you could eat software |
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Fixer |
thank chtulhu i recognised catastrophe 1 year before and we exchanged some more currency to dollars |
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Fixer |
broght dslr and new pc in time :} |
| 17:55 |
Fixer |
ready for a cataclysm (tm) |
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PilzAdam |
so much offtopic here |
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hmmmm |
YO my main mushroom man, what's going on? |
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hmmmm |
haven't seen you around lately |
| 18:03 |
Fixer |
mushroom man? |
| 18:03 |
hmmmm |
pilz is german for mushroom |
| 18:03 |
Fixer |
got it |
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PilzAdam |
this sounds like I'm supplying you with mushrooms |
| 18:04 |
PilzAdam |
for any feds reading: I'm not |
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Fixer |
mushrooms... mmm |
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Warr1024 |
on Debian 8, trying to compile for Android, but it's failing on building curl. Am I missing something obvious? Did something change lately? |
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nrzkt |
Warr1024, no problem for me with curl, i only noticed a problem with linking on openssl 1.0.2g |
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Warr1024 |
ah, I remember having had openssl issues at one point... I wonder what I did to work around it? |
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Warr1024 |
hopefully there will be another release soon enough so I can use offical bins on some platforms... |
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nrzkt |
i haven't solved the openssl issue yet, it's anoying |
| 20:30 |
Warr1024 |
looks like there are some 64-bit constants in test_serialization.cpp that cause compiling to fail on 32-bit archs, too. |
| 20:31 |
Warr1024 |
appending LL to them to force the type seems to have gotten past it... |
| 20:40 |
hmmmm |
whoops :( |
| 20:58 |
sofar |
hmmmm: looks like it'll be a depressing day here - http://www.oregonlive.com/silicon-forest/index.ssf/2016/04/intel_quarterly_results.html#incart_2box |
| 20:59 |
hmmmm |
layoffs usually increase stock price in the short term, but i wouldn't bother buying up more since the news has already been priced in |
| 20:59 |
hmmmm |
too late! |
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sofar |
I'm actually hoping to sell some soon :) |
| 21:04 |
hmmmm |
iunno i'd just hold to be honest |
| 21:04 |
hmmmm |
it's nice for income |
| 21:05 |
sofar |
trying to build a house soon... |
| 21:05 |
sofar |
after hours plunge already 3%+ |
| 21:07 |
sofar |
tbh they didn't miss the earnings estimates by much. picky brokers |
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jin_xi |
guys, anyone up for looking at some mt hacking questions? |
| 21:21 |
jin_xi |
effing particles again... |
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Wayward1 |
Warr1024, does your apk compile failure resemble #4005? |
| 21:42 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4005 -- Minetest.apk build failure |
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Warr1024 |
Yes, #4005 is the error I'm having. |
| 23:19 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4005 -- Minetest.apk build failure |
| 23:19 |
Warr1024 |
good to know that it's not just my setup that's messed up, but it's a shame that it's broken for anyone else... |
| 23:20 |
Warr1024 |
maybe we should try a bisect and see if we can identify a change that broke it? |
| 23:21 |
Zeno` |
Warr1024, so... nothing has changed for you in the last few days? |
| 23:22 |
Zeno` |
I built for android only about a week ago and noticed nothing unusual |
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Zeno` |
so is that curl or ./conftest failing? |
| 23:25 |
Zeno` |
(looking at lines 126 and 128 of config.log) |
| 23:25 |
Warr1024 |
I don't remember the last time I tried to build |
| 23:26 |
Warr1024 |
let me check... |
| 23:26 |
Zeno` |
it looks like --host should be added somewhere? Hmm |
| 23:26 |
paramat |
*** freeze at weekend hopefully *** |
| 23:29 |
Warr1024 |
according to nerzhul's comment on the issue, curl 0.48 works fine, so maybe I can just change that in the Makefile? |
| 23:29 |
Warr1024 |
whelp, I kicked off a build, so I'll see if that makes a diff... |
| 23:29 |
Zeno` |
ok |
| 23:29 |
Zeno` |
I'm also looking at line 125 though |
| 23:30 |
Zeno` |
http://dpaste.com/26NZ2KE |
| 23:31 |
Zeno` |
which is probably nothing |
| 23:32 |
Warr1024 |
yeah, curl 7.48.0 gives me the same shit. |
| 23:33 |
Zeno` |
in the NDK? |
| 23:33 |
Warr1024 |
according to Makefile, curl is alrady build with --host=${TARGET_HOST} |
| 23:33 |
Warr1024 |
which should evaluate to --host=arm-linux |
| 23:34 |
Zeno` |
I guess one of us should install Ubuntu to try and replicate |
| 23:35 |
Warr1024 |
my last good build was 2016-01-04 |
| 23:35 |
Warr1024 |
I'm on Debian 8 and am having the same problem, so I'm going to see if the old code is failing for me too |
| 23:35 |
Zeno` |
well if there is an error it should be easy to bisect at least |
| 23:35 |
Zeno` |
thanks |
| 23:35 |
Warr1024 |
if it is then it must be something that changed on my system like a package upate |
| 23:36 |
Warr1024 |
if not, then I can try a bisect and see what changed in the codebase. |
| 23:36 |
Zeno` |
I'd just look at the git history for the android makefiles first, but yeah |
| 23:41 |
Zeno` |
why is my CPU so hot :/ |
| 23:41 |
Warr1024 |
yeah, a few suspicious revs in there. |
| 23:41 |
Zeno` |
ok, I'll try again when back on my dev computer |
| 23:41 |
Warr1024 |
stuff like "update a whole bunch of deps" which sounds like exactly the kind of thing that would break stuff... |
| 23:41 |
Zeno` |
yep for sure |
| 23:42 |
Zeno` |
and if it is broken that's a blocker |
| 23:42 |
Zeno` |
hopefully easy to fix though |
| 23:42 |
Fixer |
Zeno`, cpu is in australia |
| 23:42 |
Warr1024 |
yeah, unfortunately it might be hard to untangle the good parts from the breaking ones... |
| 23:43 |
Zeno` |
Fixer, it's only 12C outside (14c inside) and my CPU is idling on 58C lol |
| 23:43 |
Zeno` |
Warr1024, we'll just remove CURL then! |
| 23:43 |
Zeno` |
(joke) |
| 23:44 |
Warr1024 |
heh |
| 23:44 |
Zeno` |
Warr1024, I dunno how I can personally fix it though 'cause it worked for me the other day |
| 23:45 |
Warr1024 |
well, I don't think I actually use it myself |
| 23:45 |
Zeno` |
umm... what are you using? Debian or Udbuntu? |
| 23:45 |
Warr1024 |
Deb 8 |
| 23:45 |
Zeno` |
I can install on a VM |
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Warr1024 |
well, it's not "pure" deb 8 |
| 23:45 |
Warr1024 |
was originally 6 and I followed the upgrade paths |
| 23:45 |
Fixer |
i have deb 8 too in vm, but i cross-compile to windows |
| 23:45 |
Warr1024 |
which means that there will always be a few odd bits of config that don't match a stock install |
| 23:45 |
Fixer |
so probably no help |
| 23:45 |
Zeno` |
Fixer are you able to build for android? |
| 23:46 |
Fixer |
Zeno`, never tried it |
| 23:46 |
Warr1024 |
don't we have CI for android or anything? |
| 23:46 |
Zeno` |
so two people have the problem? |
| 23:47 |
Zeno` |
you and Wayward_One? (both on debian-based linuxes) |
| 23:47 |
Warr1024 |
as far as I know, yes. |
| 23:47 |
Warr1024 |
is there a set of platforms for which cross-compiling to Android is or is not supported? |
| 23:47 |
Zeno` |
Can you add a comment as well please? |
| 23:47 |
Warr1024 |
sure |
| 23:48 |
Zeno` |
Warr1024, I don't know. I had a lot of trouble setting up the silly android SDK/NDK I know that much heh |
| 23:48 |
Zeno` |
kind of scared to touch my config now =D |
| 23:49 |
Warr1024 |
yeah, I know the feeling |
| 23:49 |
Warr1024 |
I seem to have lost the ability to build the desktop version, too |
| 23:49 |
Warr1024 |
er, it builds, but immediate SIGSEGV on launch |
| 23:50 |
Warr1024 |
tried to gdb it a bit, bt points to a problem in i965_dri.so or something, so it sort of sounds like a video driver issue.. |
| 23:50 |
Warr1024 |
ironically, I've had the most luck getting it to build and run stable on OpenBSD |
| 23:51 |
Warr1024 |
but there's no android cross-compile support to speak of, and there are some particularly annoying performance issues... |
| 23:54 |
Zeno` |
this is very odd |
| 23:57 |
Zeno` |
actually I'm not sure I like that patch |
