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paramat |
merging #4163 |
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ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4163 -- Sky: Darker, bluer sky and improved horizon haze at night by paramat |
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paramat |
merged |
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hmmmm |
i know it hasn't been proposed yet at all but |
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hmmmm |
I would like to pre-emptively ban protobufs or any other library that requires autogenerated code |
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hmmmm |
this is horrible and nobody deserves to be required to work with this |
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est31 |
ban protobuf? |
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est31 |
great idea |
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est31 |
I've worked with it once |
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est31 |
and its horrible |
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est31 |
the other day I've watched a podcast about languages |
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est31 |
there were the people of Rust, Swift, Go, and the C++ creator was there as well |
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est31 |
the go dude I think mentioned c++ use at google |
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est31 |
he said thanks to c++ headers, one million lines of source code meet the compiler for one line of normal source code |
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est31 |
in some of google's projects |
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est31 |
I didnt believe it |
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est31 |
then I saw what protobuf creates |
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est31 |
that immediately changed my opinion |
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rubenwardy |
What do you mean by normal source code? |
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est31 |
source code inside the file |
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est31 |
i mean the preprocessor bloats this up |
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est31 |
thanks to #include |
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hmmmm |
but to be fair, a lot of Google C++ projects are made overcomplicated (I'm not going to use the word overengineered, because that implies there is some merit to the design) |
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est31 |
#include is string manipulation only |
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hmmmm |
it's not just their autogenerated spew |
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hmmmm |
this has also got to be the worst abuse of templates ever |
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hmmmm |
overall I'd rate this code a C- |
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hmmmm |
this is bad to the point where it's write-once-read-never |
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hmmmm |
i can tell because i'm trying to read it |
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hmmmm |
I thought google people were super smart! |
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hmmmm |
how come their code is such putrid crap |
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rubenwardy |
mega corp |
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est31 |
rubenwardy, the thing about google is: their recruitement process is very strict |
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est31 |
you have to pass lots and lots of barriers |
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est31 |
its not just the send resume get email goto interview get job |
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rubenwardy |
I'm aware |
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hmmmm |
their recruitment process is very strict on the type of developers they want |
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hmmmm |
i.e. people who are horrible at structuring code and trying to act smart and failing miserably by making overcomplicated code to do something very trivial |
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est31 |
idk ive read a theory on the internet that except for search and maybe maps, google never had developed any successful project themselves |
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est31 |
everything successful was an aquisition |
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est31 |
like android or youtube |
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est31 |
and lots of the things they developed on their own were miserable |
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est31 |
but you know, its a theory on the internet ... |
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est31 |
anyway gotta go |
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est31 |
bye! |
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hmmmm |
later. |
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hmmmm |
just wanted to point out that software usually fails for business reasons unrelated to code quality |
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hmmmm |
but yea... this is unmaintainable |
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hmmmm |
i don't want minetest to ever become like this |
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paramat |
nore or mtgame devs, please could you review game#1120 ? |
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ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/1120 -- Mossy cobble slab and stairs. by sofar |
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