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ShadowNinja |
FWIW, I have a patch that has most/all of the features of MineHacker, and it's only 200 lines or so. This stuff is trivial and there are a number of people that have made their own patches before (Foobar comes to mind). |
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^ That's the whole patch too, the actual changes are ~60 lines. |
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ysp |
isn't anti-cheat suppose to stop players from moving to fast and mining too fast? |
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ysp |
so wouldn't a lot of the features of minehack only work on servers with that turned off? |
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ysp |
and the whole talk after ban thing should be really easy to fix if it is even a real thing |
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Hijiri |
ysp: its homepage says it has some "anti-anticheat" features |
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ysp |
huh |
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ysp |
that sounds intersting |
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Hijiri |
not sure about mining too fast, but for moving too fast you could just interpolate the move location |
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ysp |
well I think it messes around with the node/tool definitions |
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sfan5 |
it would be good to know whether the server he played on in the video had anticheat enabled |
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Hijiri |
anticheat doesn't protect against that |
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ysp |
well it should stop moving too fast |
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ysp |
and interacting too fast iirc |
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Hijiri |
not if the client sends position updates that fake normal movement |
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ysp |
huh |
| 11:49 |
ysp |
but then it only allows the player to look further |
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Hijiri |
well, it would take some time to catch up I guess |
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Hijiri |
maybe it does something more sophisticated |
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ysp |
could be |
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ysp |
or maybe it just have too look like it does |
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ysp |
btw isn't that server ran by rubenwardy? |
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ysp |
it looked like his ctf server |
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ysp |
lol I found people making cheats for minetest in cheat engine |
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Hijiri |
that's how hard it is to build on windows |
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ysp |
lol |
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sfan5 |
how does google manage to release an ndk so broken |
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sfan5 |
generally building for android is cancer |
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sfan5 |
three makefile thingies to build one thing |
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red-001 |
wow |
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sfan5 |
those import twenty other deps from somewhere in the ndk |
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sfan5 |
and in the end it ignored APP_ABI and just builds it for 64-bit linux |
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sfan5 |
like wut |
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sfan5 |
why the fuck are we using some obscure freetype fork for android |
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sfan5 |
stock freetype works fine |
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sfan5 |
this build system is absolute shit |
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sfan5 |
oh sapier is responsible for this makefile bullshit |
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sfan5 |
can't even clean the fucking build |
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sfan5 |
because some library is missing |
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sfan5 |
google what the fuck |
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paramat |
btw lordfingle says he may be able to help out with android dev soonish |
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sfan5 |
paramat: #/4950 |
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sfan5 |
uh |
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sfan5 |
#4950 |
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ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4950 -- fix android build by sfan5 |
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paramat |
ok |
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paramat |
looking |
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paramat |
this is beyond me, sorry |
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sfan5 |
well it needs approvals |
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sfan5 |
it's the only problem missing for the release to happen |
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paramat |
est31 nore sofar ^ |
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paramat |
#4528 seems not a blocker |
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ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4528 -- minetest 0.4.14 64bit crashes at startup on Windows 10 Pro 64bit: debug.txt permissions/path problem |
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sfan5 |
it needs to be/should be solven when rubenwardy makes an installer executable |
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paramat |
so indeed android build is the final issue |
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paramat |
ok to remove 4528 from milestone? |
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rubenwardy |
sfan5, it would be great if we could use cmake instead: https://developer.android.com/ndk/guides/cmake.html |
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sfan5 |
i know |
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rubenwardy |
although "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" |
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sfan5 |
no |
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sfan5 |
the android build system is absolutely horrible |
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sfan5 |
it must be thrown away |
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rubenwardy |
I agree |
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est31 |
hi, can't look at the pr |
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est31 |
but will do later today |
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est31 |
I'm not sure though how it fixes the android build |
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est31 |
bc it looks more like an issue with gradle than with ndk |
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est31 |
but idk |
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est31 |
<sfan5> generally building for android is cancer |
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sfan5 |
est31: it fixes the issues i found when trying to build for android |
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est31 |
agree, sadly |
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sfan5 |
not sure what you encountered |
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est31 |
sfan5: I encountered an issue with some translations |
| 16:42 |
est31 |
filenotfound error or something |
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sfan5 |
android does not have translations |
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est31 |
your patch seems to only add some libraries or stuff |
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est31 |
sfan5: yeah, I need to investigate |
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est31 |
sfan5: whoich version of the ndk do you use? |
| 16:43 |
est31 |
which* |
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sfan5 |
r13b |
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est31 |
btw. building stuff for android can mess with your ndk |
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sfan5 |
i can compile android correctly on my machine now so the pr should probably be merged so we can release |
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est31 |
if you build other projects using the same ndk too they might have messed it up |
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sfan5 |
nah |
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est31 |
sfan5: I need to test your pr first |
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est31 |
want* |
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est31 |
man my internet is shit |
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est31 |
will be back in ~4 hours |
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est31 |
hi |
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est31 |
looking into the android pr right now |
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est31 |
sfan5: what exactly were the issues your pr was fixing? |
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est31 |
I'm trying to reproduce them |
| 20:24 |
est31 |
the build is running now |
| 20:24 |
est31 |
with r13b android ndk |
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ShadowNinja |
Oh, BTW, there are issues building when the target API is >= 23, since text relodations aren't allowed anymore but the build uses them. I traced the problem down a while ago and the issue was with some hand-coded assembly in OpenSSL for one of the ciphers. |
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est31 |
ok |
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est31 |
mhh there are many issues with the android build script |
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est31 |
one thing that would be nice if you had a dir where all the downloaded tarballs are stored |
| 20:36 |
est31 |
so that you can easily remove the dir with the unzipped stuff, and it would still work |
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est31 |
err |
| 20:36 |
est31 |
it would still compile |
| 20:36 |
est31 |
without any more downloading |
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sfan5 |
est31: library builds were failing because either 1) the .sh script didn't actually generate a toolchain because of a bug OR 2) ndk-build would go on and ignore everything and build for 64-bit Linux instead of the wanted android target because of yet another bug |
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sfan5 |
also see my rant about the ndk being broken http://irc.minetest.net/minetest-dev/2016-12-22#i_4769030 |
| 20:43 |
est31 |
read it |
| 20:43 |
est31 |
I'm not sure, but my guess for why we are using a freetype fork is that freetype didnt have android support at the time the android port of minetest was made |
| 20:44 |
est31 |
but thats only a wild guess |
| 20:44 |
est31 |
would be a good idea to un-fork it |
| 20:44 |
sfan5 |
i'm pretty sure it had android support since years |
| 20:44 |
sfan5 |
my guess is that we use that because it has ndk-build scripts |
| 20:46 |
sfan5 |
anyway is the pr okay to merge? |
| 20:46 |
est31 |
let me see whether it still builds for me |
| 20:46 |
est31 |
I confirm that there is some kind of breakage with the pr |
| 20:47 |
sfan5 |
git master android built for you? |
| 20:47 |
est31 |
err |
| 20:47 |
est31 |
without the pr |
| 20:47 |
est31 |
sorry |
| 20:48 |
sfan5 |
ah |
| 20:48 |
est31 |
its still building... |
| 20:49 |
sfan5 |
ShadowNinja: IMO switching to libressl is worth it solely because it has an okay build system (autoconf) unlike openssl |
| 20:56 |
est31 |
mhh idk, still cant build |
| 20:56 |
est31 |
lots of weird issues |
| 20:56 |
est31 |
I remember this build system as less broken |
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est31 |
maybe my perception was clouded |
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est31 |
sfan5: it builds correctly from you, even if you remove the entire build/androi/build dir and build/android/deps dir? |
| 20:57 |
est31 |
for you* |
| 21:00 |
sfan5 |
lemme try |
| 21:08 |
Fixer |
modpacks are very problematic to use, please consider this bug after release: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4183 |
| 21:12 |
sfan5 |
est31: yes works for me |
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est31 |
ok... lets merge it then |
| 21:12 |
est31 |
then I'll merge translations |
| 21:12 |
est31 |
and then we can release imo |
| 21:16 |
sfan5 |
ye |
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sfan5 |
est31: merged |
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Zeno` |
credits updated |
| 21:33 |
Zeno` |
#4934 |
| 21:33 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4934 -- Final update to credits before release by Zeno- |
| 21:33 |
sfan5 |
you didn't have to re-squash it but whatever |
| 21:33 |
Zeno` |
:) |
| 21:33 |
Zeno` |
I didn't I amended the previous commit |
| 21:33 |
Zeno` |
heh |
| 21:34 |
sfan5 |
any issues left? |
| 21:34 |
Zeno` |
I guess you can merge |
| 21:34 |
Zeno` |
not that I can see. Just the installer but that can be post-release, right? |
| 21:34 |
sfan5 |
installer will be post-release anyway |
| 21:34 |
Zeno` |
nothing we can do about it anyway. Yeah |
| 21:34 |
Zeno` |
so +1 |
| 21:34 |
sfan5 |
credit update merged |
| 21:35 |
Zeno` |
cool |
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paramat |
mtgame is ready btw no issues |
| 21:38 |
est31 |
I'm not entirely sure if the android build works |
| 21:39 |
sfan5 |
it does for me |
| 21:39 |
est31 |
but as you confirm, its good |
| 21:39 |
est31 |
we should ask nrz whether he can build |
| 21:39 |
est31 |
he's uploading to the play store |
| 21:39 |
sfan5 |
well he left 20 mins ago |
| 21:40 |
est31 |
:/ |
| 21:40 |
sfan5 |
also even if he can't the source can be patched for a play store build |
| 21:40 |
est31 |
it can |
| 21:40 |
sfan5 |
not the ideal solution but it works |
| 21:40 |
est31 |
windows builders around? |
| 21:40 |
est31 |
rubenwardy? |
| 21:40 |
sfan5 |
that's me |
| 21:40 |
est31 |
no:/ |
| 21:40 |
est31 |
oh |
| 21:40 |
est31 |
ok |
| 21:41 |
est31 |
does the windows build work :) |
| 21:41 |
sfan5 |
last release the windows installer was also added some days after |
| 21:41 |
est31 |
yes |
| 21:41 |
sfan5 |
I'll test |
| 21:47 |
sfan5 |
builds successfully ✔ |
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| 21:55 |
sfan5 |
tested an works ✔ |
| 21:56 |
sfan5 |
*and |
| 21:56 |
sfan5 |
pushing bump commits now |
| 21:57 |
est31 |
the zeno pr is pushed= |
| 21:57 |
est31 |
? |
| 21:57 |
est31 |
it is |
| 21:57 |
est31 |
fine fine |
| 21:57 |
sfan5 |
yes |
| 22:00 |
Zeno` |
press the big red button! |
| 22:00 |
est31 |
pushing the stable branch update |
| 22:01 |
sfan5 |
^ done that for mt_game |
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est31 |
pushed |
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paramat |
\O/ |
| 22:04 |
est31 |
next stop: launchpad |
| 22:04 |
est31 |
gonna take care of it too |
| 22:07 |
sfan5 |
est31: should the apk in the github releases section be an official one? (meaning from nrz) |
| 22:08 |
est31 |
yes |
| 22:08 |
est31 |
needs nrz signature |
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sfan5 |
windows builds uploaded, est31 / Zeno` |
| 22:30 |
Zeno` |
wohoo! |
| 22:31 |
Zeno` |
where? |
| 22:32 |
sfan5 |
now here -> https://github.com/minetest/minetest/releases/tag/0.4.15 |
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Topic for #minetest-dev is now Minetest core development and maintenance. Chit-chat goes to #minetest. Consider this instead of /msg celeron55. http://irc.minetest.net/minetest-dev/ http://dev.minetest.net/ |
| 22:32 |
Zeno` |
oh cool :) |
| 22:33 |
est31 |
ookay, launchpad builds are started |
| 22:33 |
est31 |
should be all built shortly |
| 22:33 |
est31 |
https://launchpad.net/~minetestdevs/+archive/ubuntu/stable/+builds?build_state=building |
| 22:33 |
sfan5 |
changelog is still missing |
| 22:33 |
sfan5 |
in case anyone has nothing to do right now ;) |
| 22:33 |
est31 |
https://launchpad.net/~minetestdevs/+archive/ubuntu/stable |
| 22:34 |
sfan5 |
who does the "Notify known package maintainers" things? |
| 22:34 |
est31 |
I can notify the package maintainers |
| 22:34 |
est31 |
tomorrow |
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sfan5 |
okay, I'll post a forum topic |
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est31 |
today I do the f-droid build, then I go to bed |
| 22:41 |
sfan5 |
Zeno`: mind looking at #4951 ? |
| 22:41 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4951 -- Various anticheat improvements by sfan5 |
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Fixer |
congrats to everybody |
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Zeno` |
sfan5, sure |
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Zeno` |
sfan5, cannot this exact moment, but I will shortly |
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milllersman |
Just seen the good news in the irc log |
| 23:04 |
milllersman |
Congratulations to everyone involved in the release :) |
| 23:05 |
Fixer |
any forum admins? read my message in #minetest |
| 23:08 |
Fixer |
spammer spams forum right now |
| 23:15 |
Calinou |
celeron55: forum is down |
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Calinou |
it crashed due to a spammer, possibly |
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Calinou |
I can't delete posts and report spammer btw |
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Calinou |
or anyone that can do it |
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Fixer |
4 pages of trash |
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lordfingle |
Hi! For whoever is on, would just like you to know I'm working pretty intensely with the Android version at the moment. I'll be able to contribute constructively after Jan 10 |
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lordfingle |
Having to copy all the files onto the sdcard is an issue. I will be researching a way of at least accessing local graphics and sound assets directly without extraction. |
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Wuzzy |
Hooray for all of you! :-) |
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juhdanad |
When you will have some free time, could you review #4346, please? I think it became forgotten. |
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ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4346 -- Improved getPointedThing() by juhdanad |
