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Zeno` |
can someone help me understand why all detached inventories are sent to the client? |
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thePalindrome |
Is "wololol" a satisfactory answer? |
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Zeno` |
not really :P |
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Zeno` |
I can't see the reason. It must be hiding |
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Zeno` |
I can /not/ send them (i.e. comment out the code) and not see any difference as well |
| 04:33 |
Zeno` |
but... hmm... I dunno |
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thePalindrome |
Have you put a print there, see if that code is ever called? |
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Zeno` |
no of course not |
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Zeno` |
I've put a breakpoint there |
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thePalindrome |
huh |
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Zeno` |
breakpoint in debugger |
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Zeno` |
but anyway that might be a good idea for collecting data from remote servers. I might add some debug text |
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Zeno` |
although the debug text doesn't answer my original question :) |
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bkeys |
Hello, I am trying to run an instance of your master server for my own game and am having some issues |
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bkeys |
I cannot get external connections to work; if I try a curl then I get a connection refused error |
| 07:29 |
bkeys |
But if I curl on the localhost then it works fine |
| 07:29 |
bkeys |
I ran netstat -lan | grep 5000 on the localhost and here was the output |
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bkeys |
tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:5000 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN |
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Zeno` |
is it blocked at the router or by iptables? |
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bkeys |
How could I tell? I am running this on Raspian on a raspberry pi |
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bkeys |
It does not appear to use firewalld so I am lost |
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bkeys |
I do not think the router has the port blocked at all |
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Zeno` |
hmm |
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bkeys |
I try service restart iptables and it tells me that it is not an installed service |
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Zeno` |
how is traffic routed from the modem/router to the rpi? |
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bkeys |
I just have the pi connected via an ethernet cable |
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burli |
hi |
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Zeno` |
Well, is port forwarding set up? |
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Zeno` |
This is more of a networking issue |
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Zeno` |
Is there a ##network or something? |
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bkeys |
I am just trying to access this master server on my LAN so no port forwarding needed |
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burli |
I have a question about LBMs. Is there a difference between registering a single LBM with multiple nodes and multiple LBMs with a single node? Does it make a difference in performance? |
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Zeno` |
oh ok |
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Zeno` |
well make sure the port is not blocked my the rpi. #raspberrypi can probably answer easier than me |
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bkeys |
Alright I will get started on that tomorrow, thanks for your time |
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tenplus1 |
hi folks |
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tenplus1 |
has anyone complained about metadata being flakey lately ??? |
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tenplus1 |
if I do: local inv = minetest.get_meta(pos):get_inventory() ; inv:set_size("main", 4*4) -- it sometimes doesnt work 100% and refuses to create inventory |
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tenplus1 |
but if I do: local meta = minetest.get_meta(pos) ; local inv = meta:get_inventory() ; inv:set_size("main", 4*4) -- it works fine every time |
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Zeno` |
sfan5, what is the purpose of https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/src/server.cpp#L2537 |
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Zeno` |
i.e. why do clients need the detached inventories of all the other players? |
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nerzhul |
if i remember sfan5 you studied this shit, maybe you will know |
| 10:22 |
sfan5 |
Zeno`: that exactly is the problwem |
| 10:22 |
sfan5 |
detached inventories are NOT supposed to be used for player-specific stuff |
| 10:23 |
sfan5 |
mods do it anyway because there is no other way |
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Zeno` |
I don't get it. I keep tracing the code and can't see the purpose of this |
| 10:23 |
Zeno` |
hmm |
| 10:23 |
sfan5 |
so generally the code sends each detached inv to everyone |
| 10:23 |
celeron55 |
player-specific custom inventories don't exist |
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sfan5 |
except for the ones where the mod said it should only go to <playername> |
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sfan5 |
the checks on line 2526 & 2532 enforce tht |
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Zeno` |
hmm ok |
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Zeno` |
it's weird, but ok |
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sfan5 |
adding a workaround to accomodate feature misuse is weird indeed :P |
| 10:25 |
celeron55 |
wait, actually we do have that |
| 10:26 |
sfan5 |
yes, however having callbacks for them is not possible |
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sfan5 |
(not yet) |
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Zeno` |
hmm |
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* Zeno` |
reads docs again |
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Zeno` |
Any objections to #5164 ? |
| 11:24 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5164 -- Serverlist: Add ping indicators by kilbith |
| 11:25 |
Zeno` |
if not I will merge in 30 or so minutes |
| 11:28 |
nrzkt |
the float point is fixed ? |
| 11:29 |
Zeno` |
I'm not sure about that |
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Zeno` |
just saw it then |
| 11:30 |
nrzkt |
the fix is to ask jsoncpp to see if the field is member of the offset |
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Zeno` |
ok it returns undefined value |
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Zeno` |
currently |
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Zeno` |
yeah, needs to be fixed |
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Zeno` |
#5164 looks ok now |
| 13:26 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5164 -- Serverlist: Add ping indicators by kilbith |
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Zeno` |
will merge #5164 |
| 13:53 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5164 -- Serverlist: Add ping indicators by kilbith |
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Zeno` |
done |
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nerzhul |
ty |
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sofar |
wow that's nice |
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sfan5 |
the only "problem" with it is that the ping indicators represent the latency serverlist<->server and not you<->server |
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sfan5 |
but than nothing i guess |
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kilbith |
I'm guessing, according to what sfan5 is saying, maybe it'd be better to get the lag value rather than the ping - tell me what do you think |
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red-001 |
I say lag is more useful |
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red-001 |
people coul |
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red-001 |
people could live on the other side of the world to the serverlist |
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red-001 |
why exactly isn't minetest using a database for the player files? |
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red-001 |
I mean at some point the map was moved to a db, so why hasn't the same happened to the player files |
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rubenwardy |
no one's got around to it |
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rubenwardy |
blocks using the file system was causing a massive problem on singleplayer |
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sofar |
red-001: I think nrzkt may get to that next |
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red-001 |
and this is only a big problem on large multiplayer servers |
| 18:08 |
red-001 |
I see |
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sofar |
I know he wants to do so |
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red-001 |
I though there was a pr to add this? |
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red-001 |
nvm looks like I was mistaken |
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est31 |
+1 to moving player data to a db |
| 18:56 |
est31 |
some people are romantic they want that stuff stays in text files because its easier to edit but I think this is wrong |
| 18:57 |
est31 |
files are slow. Also, the implementation is O(n*m) with n number of players logged in, and m number of player files |
| 18:58 |
thePalindrome |
I'm ok with a database, so long as it isn't a stupid one |
| 18:59 |
thePalindrome |
People don't realize, it's really easy to edit databases |
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bkeys |
Is there any example code to get a server added to the minetest master server? |
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thePalindrome |
iirc it's a config option |
| 19:06 |
bkeys |
lets say I am using the minetest master server for a non minetest game, what is the best way to register my game servers with the master server? |
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celeron55 |
sounds a bit risky to publish that in an easy format, the only thing it'd do is attract script kiddies to cause unnecessary trouble 8) |
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celeron55 |
well maybe not |
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celeron55 |
are you really intending to use it for another game? |
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sfan5 |
bkeys: why would you do that |
| 19:26 |
bkeys |
sfan5: I want to use the minetest master server for my game |
| 19:26 |
bkeys |
I just want to know how do I register my game servers on it? |
| 19:26 |
sfan5 |
what is "my game"? |
| 19:27 |
bkeys |
A game I am making in Godot? |
| 19:27 |
bkeys |
I am unsure of what you are asking for |
| 19:27 |
bkeys |
Just a non-minetest game |
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sfan5 |
then why do you want to use the minetest server list for it |
| 19:28 |
sfan5 |
before you come up with some argument: no it won't work |
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bkeys |
I do not, I want to have my own server list |
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bkeys |
https://github.com/minetest/master-server |
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bkeys |
This server, but with my game servers instead |
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sfan5 |
it's a purpose-built website for minetest |
| 19:29 |
sfan5 |
you're better off writing your own |
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bkeys |
Is there a practical way to use it for my purposes? |
| 19:29 |
bkeys |
Maybe you can show me the code where the minetest server registers itself with this master server? |
| 19:30 |
bkeys |
In theory it should be able to work with anything that supports HTTP requests, even if it needs modification |
| 19:31 |
sfan5 |
i'm not sure how it would help you but here https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/src/serverlist.cpp#L199 |
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bkeys |
Hmm thank you |
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bkeys |
Yes this looks like it will be helpful |
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red-001 |
anyone working on playerdatabase stuff? |
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thePalindrome |
Didn't think we had decided on details |
| 20:04 |
thePalindrome |
Couldn't we piggyback on the world database? |
| 20:04 |
sfan5 |
no it should be seperated |
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sofar |
agreed |
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rubenwardy |
agreed, at least by default |
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sofar |
resetting the map but not changing the seed is as easy as 'rm map.sqlite' |
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sofar |
can't do so if player data is in there as well |
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red-001 |
is it important that different backends can be used? |
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sofar |
for some people, yes |
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sofar |
I'd argue you need 3 db's |
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red-001 |
or would just sqlite initially be ok? |
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rubenwardy |
yes, but not required for initial release |
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sofar |
1) auth db |
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sofar |
2) player data db |
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rubenwardy |
I'd say |
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sofar |
3) map db |
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sofar |
privs should be removed from the auth db imho, and put into player db |
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red-001 |
I would say that player db is the more important of the two |
| 20:14 |
est31 |
another advantage of separating (and reason why I support separate DB) is that we don't have to implement it instantly for all db backends |
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est31 |
and can have one backend at the start, for sqlite |
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thePalindrome |
touche |
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est31 |
imo auth and player data could be put together though |
| 20:16 |
est31 |
custom auth handlers would have to become custom player data handlers |
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rubenwardy |
that would be cool |
| 20:27 |
rubenwardy |
you could even implement this as a lua player data handler, then make a database library for lua |
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red-001 |
nrzkt, are you planning to work on moving player data to a database? |
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nrzkt |
not now because i have other things to do, but at a moment i will port my already existing work yes |
| 21:31 |
est31 |
nrzkt: note that sfan5 sofar and me want it separate from the map db |
| 21:31 |
est31 |
see logs |
| 21:31 |
nrzkt |
est31, in fact it's already the case:p |
| 21:31 |
nrzkt |
i'm not stupid |
| 21:32 |
nrzkt |
i have 3 DB on my server, authdb, player db & map db |
| 21:32 |
nrzkt |
we should split auth & player db permitting server owners to share auth between servers |
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thePalindrome |
^ |
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est31 |
nrzkt: nice |
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Fixer |
+1 |
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nrzkt |
rubenwardy, please finish your metadata PR i need to merge my mod storage backend |
| 21:42 |
nrzkt |
too many useful opened pr on my side |
| 21:42 |
rubenwardy |
working on it right now |
| 21:44 |
rubenwardy |
the problem with getString being const ref is that it uses a string created in resolveString. I'm gonna have to make the std::string content point to the actual string, but maybe a substring |
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nrzkt |
rubenwardy, donc return a const std::string & then |
| 21:45 |
nrzkt |
use a std::string * pointer paremeter and write to it |
| 21:45 |
nrzkt |
const ref is useful on member variables |
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rubenwardy |
You'd still be copying at some point |
| 21:49 |
red-001 |
any comments on #4962? |
| 21:49 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4962 -- Save the name of the world in world.mt and remove invalid characters from the directory name by red-001 |
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rubenwardy |
does this copy? const char *cs = "abcdef"; std::string str(&cs[2], 1); |
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nrzkt |
yes |
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rubenwardy |
specification is vague on this :/ |
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nrzkt |
in fact it's just logical here, your string has a scope and the std::string is a C++ independant object, if doesn't cointain pointers to external resources |
| 21:56 |
paramat |
please can anyone review #5157 ? fairly simple, tested and fixes a game crash |
| 21:56 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5157 -- Objectpos over limit: Avoid error caused by sector over limit by paramat |
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rubenwardy |
done |
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rubenwardy |
I misread the code, and it was actually easier than expected |
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rubenwardy |
#5154 now includes per-stack descriptions |
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ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5154 -- Add ItemStack key-value meta storage by rubenwardy |
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rubenwardy |
just need to DRY out to_table |
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juhdanad |
sofar: you want to use multitexturing for signs with text. What is multitexturing? |
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* thePalindrome |
gives rubenwardy an internetz |
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rubenwardy |
? O_o |
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thePalindrome |
I've been waiting for ItemStack metadata for a wile :P |
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thePalindrome |
*while |
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paramat |
i'll fix #5163 tonight |
| 22:45 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5163 -- Dungeons in Minimal dev test are made of stone and have holes |
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rubenwardy |
updated #5154 |
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ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5154 -- Add ItemStack key-value meta storage by rubenwardy |
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rubenwardy |
one problem - MAP_LOCK_REQUIRED is added to the functions even if it's for an ItemStack |
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rubenwardy |
oh, they do nothing anyway |
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