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Fixer |
brand new annoyance: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5236 |
| 00:49 |
Fixer |
This: <VanessaE> and someone PLEASE fix the player delete bug |
| 00:50 |
Fixer |
can confirm it on her servers, hard to connect |
| 00:55 |
paramat |
more explanation needed |
| 00:56 |
paramat |
#5237 |
| 00:56 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5237 -- Cavegen: Place correct biome surface in tunnel entrances by paramat |
| 00:58 |
Fixer |
this one https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1425 |
| 00:59 |
Fixer |
still not fixed |
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paramat |
i mean for 5236 |
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Fixer |
updated |
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paramat |
ahh |
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paramat |
can anyone review/approve this simple crashfix #5223 ? |
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ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5223 -- Objectpos over limit: Avoid crash caused by sector over limit by paramat |
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kilbith |
my company is looking to hire a competent Lua developer, if you think to have the profile and you're willing to move in France, please /msg me |
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rubenwardy |
nice catch, sfan5 |
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est31 |
nice catch sfan5 indeed |
| 18:05 |
est31 |
lets hope the reports stop now :) |
| 18:05 |
VanessaE |
some of them will ;) |
| 18:06 |
Fixer |
i've stopped |
| 18:06 |
Krock |
sorry, what catch? |
| 18:07 |
* Krock |
assumes it's about freetype |
| 18:07 |
VanessaE |
Krock: when a server goes to delete extraneous entities, it deletes the player too |
| 18:07 |
VanessaE |
or it did. not anymore. |
| 18:08 |
VanessaE |
major bug, fixed by sfan5 :) |
| 18:08 |
Krock |
yeah, and for me it feels like the 4th fix for this problem |
| 18:08 |
Krock |
or maybe rather the 10th issue.. could be that too |
| 18:09 |
nerzhul |
sfan5, nice |
| 18:09 |
VanessaE |
this one appears to have finally solved it. |
| 18:13 |
Krock |
well, wouldn't it be possible to check if it was a player and just skip the current object? |
| 18:13 |
VanessaE |
it's fixed now. |
| 18:17 |
sfan5 |
Krock: the code does something like that but for a reason the checks wasn't effective in special conditions |
| 18:18 |
nerzhul |
i'm generating the 0.4.15 release now, i'm late i know |
| 18:18 |
sfan5 |
^ make sure to upload the apk to GH |
| 18:18 |
Krock |
ah okay |
| 18:18 |
nerzhul |
sfan5, yeah |
| 18:18 |
nerzhul |
i uploaded the branch because i need to port one commit to stable 0.4 to build |
| 18:19 |
VanessaE |
you guys still think it's too early for a 0.4.16/0.4.15.1 release? :) |
| 18:20 |
Krock |
0.4.15.1 is for freeminer |
| 18:20 |
rubenwardy |
nerzhul, just wondering, have you given celeron55 access to the keystore and play console for net.minetest.minetest? In case you disappear |
| 18:20 |
VanessaE |
heh |
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| 18:21 |
nerzhul |
it's not as easy to have a team on the play store, but when i get time i will look at multi account possibilities into one apk |
| 18:21 |
nerzhul |
i'm testing the apk now but i think i didn't choose the right server, mediam dl is slow |
| 18:22 |
Krock |
VanessaE, if there are already many bugfixes or good working features - maybe. For the normal players it may be a bit annoying |
| 18:22 |
VanessaE |
nerzhul: any chance you could pull from a later-than-0.4.15 commit for that build? |
| 18:22 |
VanessaE |
(given the propensity for users not to update otherwise :P ) |
| 18:23 |
nerzhul |
apk uploaded: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/releases/tag/0.4.15 |
| 18:23 |
nerzhul |
no change without a proper git tag |
| 18:23 |
VanessaE |
ok. |
| 18:23 |
rubenwardy |
could use the beta channel to allow user to run 0.4.15-dev |
| 18:24 |
rubenwardy |
if that's what VanessaE mean |
| 18:24 |
VanessaE |
anything that allows the maximum numbers of users to get their hands on the newest code. |
| 18:24 |
VanessaE |
(assuming it's as stable as 0.4.15) |
| 18:26 |
nerzhul |
hmmm i'm not sure if the minetest_game is updated correctly |
| 18:26 |
nerzhul |
i will need to re-run a second release i think |
| 18:26 |
nerzhul |
can some test the current GH apk ? i only tested online features |
| 18:27 |
sofar |
GH? |
| 18:28 |
nerzhul |
github |
| 18:28 |
nerzhul |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/releases/tag/0.4.15 |
| 18:29 |
sfan5 |
sofar: whats the problem with this license even? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIL_Open_Font_License |
| 18:30 |
sofar |
nothing |
| 18:30 |
sfan5 |
then why did you replace them |
| 18:31 |
sfan5 |
there is no problem with any of the fonts |
| 18:31 |
sfan5 |
EXCEPT for the lucida_sans bitmaps |
| 18:31 |
sofar |
god dammit really |
| 18:31 |
sofar |
fucking debian complainers |
| 18:32 |
sofar |
can't even get their own complaints right |
| 18:32 |
sfan5 |
"The license is considered free by the Free Software Foundation, [...]. The Debian project agrees.[1]" |
| 18:32 |
sfan5 |
~linked article |
| 18:32 |
sfan5 |
does this qualify as irony? |
| 18:33 |
VanessaE |
I still like the newer font. it's easier to read, imho |
| 18:33 |
sfan5 |
it breaks things we can't keep it |
| 18:33 |
VanessaE |
D: |
| 18:33 |
sofar |
I'm not sure why the fallback doesn't work for you |
| 18:33 |
sfan5 |
the fallback is working |
| 18:33 |
sfan5 |
the chinese characters are taken from there |
| 18:33 |
VanessaE |
oh wait, sfan5 you mean the japanese etc. glyphs? |
| 18:33 |
sfan5 |
however for some reason the chars that don't need the fallback font go poof |
| 18:34 |
sofar |
huh |
| 18:34 |
sofar |
oh, so if you run with LANG=zh_CN you lose all the english text? |
| 18:34 |
sfan5 |
s/english text/latin characters/ yes |
| 18:34 |
sofar |
also, isn't it LANG=zh_CN.utf8 ? |
| 18:35 |
sfan5 |
% ./minetest --config <(printf "language=zh_CN\n") |
| 18:35 |
sfan5 |
setting LANG does not seem to have any effect |
| 18:36 |
VanessaE |
when I do that ^^^ I get only latin text |
| 18:36 |
VanessaE |
no chinese |
| 18:36 |
VanessaE |
(and then, a lot of it is missing) |
| 18:36 |
sofar |
that works for me, nothing is missing |
| 18:36 |
sofar |
(why can't it use LANG?) |
| 18:36 |
VanessaE |
and the fallback is some odd Times-Roman-looking thing |
| 18:37 |
sofar |
VanessaE: old PR |
| 18:37 |
sofar |
you'd have to merge my latest pr to reproduce |
| 18:37 |
sfan5 |
sofar: go into the server tab |
| 18:37 |
VanessaE |
sofar: clean upstream actually. |
| 18:37 |
sofar |
sfan5: it's all english |
| 18:37 |
sofar |
nothing missing |
| 18:37 |
VanessaE |
(commit eb49009d) |
| 18:37 |
sfan5 |
did you use LANG= or language= ? |
| 18:38 |
sofar |
mind you I have "no locale folder found" in console |
| 18:38 |
sofar |
language=zh_CN |
| 18:38 |
sfan5 |
well then there's not going to be any translations |
| 18:38 |
sofar |
$ grep lang minetest.conf |
| 18:38 |
sofar |
language = zh_CN |
| 18:39 |
VanessaE |
I wrote "language" as you did, if I use "LANG" it's entirely in English, no chinese, and nothing seems to be missing. sans-serif font/ |
| 18:40 |
sofar |
I don't know what minetest wants to get translations working, sorry |
| 18:40 |
sfan5 |
sofar: https://a.uguu.se/E6t2dqHb3ah8.png |
| 18:40 |
sofar |
I'm not a native english speaker, but if I see non-english software I burn the PC |
| 18:41 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 18:42 |
* sofar |
enables gettext |
| 18:42 |
sofar |
software in dutch ... that always just made me throw up |
| 18:43 |
VanessaE |
damn imgur is being slow today |
| 18:44 |
VanessaE |
http://imgur.com/m3qyvwP |
| 18:44 |
VanessaE |
left is as in the terminal, right is just running it normally. |
| 18:44 |
VanessaE |
just for the sake of comparison. |
| 18:44 |
Fixer |
VanessaE: vaporwave styled desktop? |
| 18:45 |
sofar |
well that's weird, now the locale error is gone but it's still not chinese |
| 18:45 |
VanessaE |
Fixer: I don't remember where I got the background image. had it for ages. |
| 18:47 |
sofar |
so however this locale/gettext stuff is supposed to work, I fail to enable it |
| 18:47 |
sofar |
it's too bad, I like the new font |
| 18:47 |
VanessaE |
me too |
| 18:48 |
VanessaE |
can't we keep it and fix the "fallback" problem separately? |
| 18:48 |
sofar |
but, I guess I'll revert it, and create a debian developer voodoo doll to stab twice daily |
| 18:48 |
VanessaE |
lol |
| 18:48 |
sfan5 |
VanessaE: minetest conf uses language= |
| 18:49 |
sfan5 |
man this irrlicht font tool has some shitty source |
| 18:49 |
sfan5 |
why did the author even bother including a makefile |
| 18:49 |
VanessaE |
can't you use karhl's tool? |
| 18:49 |
sfan5 |
if the source depends on windows gdiplus |
| 18:49 |
sfan5 |
link? |
| 18:49 |
VanessaE |
moment |
| 18:49 |
sofar |
oh I'm still sending a patch to kill non-freetype |
| 18:50 |
sofar |
stop wasting time |
| 18:50 |
sofar |
much larger bugs to fix than support of ugly fonts |
| 18:50 |
VanessaE |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4436 |
| 18:50 |
VanessaE |
(see the link therein) |
| 18:56 |
VanessaE |
sfan5: does that work for you at all? |
| 18:56 |
sfan5 |
it does |
| 18:56 |
sfan5 |
but it doesn't create an xml file |
| 18:57 |
sofar |
sfan5: actually there *was* a problem with the fonts |
| 18:57 |
sofar |
sfan5: we shipped the pre-2.00 version of liberation which was not SIL OFL, but GPL |
| 18:57 |
sofar |
sfan5: and we didn't ship source |
| 18:57 |
sofar |
I'm adding the 2.00 versions which are SIL |
| 18:58 |
sofar |
I'm assuming they didn't remove chinese pages in the new versions |
| 18:58 |
sofar |
lol |
| 18:58 |
sfan5 |
chinese is provided by droidsansfallback |
| 18:58 |
sfan5 |
hm freetype=false does not work at all |
| 19:01 |
sofar |
I think you can't switch it like that |
| 19:01 |
sofar |
you have to recompile without freetype first |
| 19:02 |
sofar |
I pushed a new version to that PR that just puts liberation back, but v2.00 |
| 19:02 |
sofar |
so now it's properly SIL licensed |
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sfan5 |
if it doesn't work why is it a setting then? |
| 19:07 |
sfan5 |
sofar: btw why does github say that your pr modifies the images |
| 19:09 |
sofar |
I ran chmod on them |
| 19:09 |
sofar |
they were executable |
| 19:10 |
red-001 |
huh git stores file permissions? |
| 19:10 |
sfan5 |
github bug then |
| 19:10 |
red-001 |
how does it even do that when it's cross platform? |
| 19:10 |
sfan5 |
because it says "No changes." for the xml files |
| 19:16 |
sofar |
diff --git a/fonts/mono_dejavu_sans_10.xml b/fonts/mono_dejavu_sans_10.xml |
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sofar |
old mode 100755 |
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sofar |
new mode 100644 |
| 19:16 |
sofar |
same for the pngs |
| 19:16 |
sofar |
diff --git a/fonts/mono_dejavu_sans_100.png b/fonts/mono_dejavu_sans_100.png |
| 19:16 |
sofar |
old mode 100755 |
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sofar |
new mode 100644 |
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sfan5 |
VanessaE: i got it to generate an .xml file, however it's still missing something for irrlicht to actually accept the chars(?) and it doesn't provide the same charset as the old fonts |
| 19:58 |
sfan5 |
also something is off with the size possibly |
| 19:58 |
sfan5 |
heres the changes https://gist.github.com/sfan5/7f0930ba1ec1f7fb62d74c434c98c6bd |
| 19:58 |
sfan5 |
tl;dr the tool is just too unflexible |
| 19:58 |
VanessaE |
it really IS time to ditch non-freetype |
| 19:59 |
VanessaE |
I mean really, does anyone who can run MT not have freetype? |
| 19:59 |
VanessaE |
who can run the *client* that is. |
| 19:59 |
sfan5 |
its nice for porting mt to new platforms |
| 19:59 |
sfan5 |
since you don't need to worry about FT at first |
| 20:00 |
VanessaE |
meh |
| 20:04 |
sfan5 |
that wasn't supposed to be a serious argument for keeping ft |
| 20:04 |
sfan5 |
s/ft/non-ft/ |
| 20:04 |
VanessaE |
I never know for sure what's serious and what isn't around here :) |
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nerzhul |
after rebuilding everything for the apk it seems processReleaseResources step doesn't work |
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Fixer |
had creepy experience with minetest for the first time |
| 20:34 |
Fixer |
holy shit moment |
| 20:34 |
VanessaE |
? |
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red-001 |
VanessaE, see #minetest-project |
| 20:35 |
Fixer |
was testing something, and moved minetest.conf out of the mt directory one level up, ... start... it remembers my settings o_O |
| 20:35 |
Fixer |
ended up runing procmon.exe and indeed minetest looked out from its DIR and found minetest.conf and used |
| 20:36 |
Fixer |
why? |
| 20:36 |
red-001 |
#5243 |
| 20:36 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5243 -- Fix a small regression caused by #5078 by red-001 |
| 20:36 |
Fixer |
it was like C:\minetest\bin\minetest.exe looking C:\minetest.conf o_O |
| 20:38 |
Fixer |
had to move it out into more obscure place |
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red-001 |
looks like the NSA mandated api broke, or something |
| 20:39 |
red-001 |
jk |
| 20:39 |
red-001 |
still that's werid |
| 20:40 |
Fixer |
my first though was... minetest uses registry? |
| 20:42 |
Fixer |
i even searched the source for fixer... |
| 20:43 |
nerzhul |
okay it's a problem with the previous minetest_game build, very strange |
| 20:44 |
nerzhul |
GH is now up to date, uploading to play store |
| 20:45 |
nerzhul |
seems the Android make clean doesn't clean the MT game previous output |
| 20:46 |
nerzhul |
apk uploaded to play store, it will be available ~24 hours |
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celeron55 |
Fixer: it's a feature 8) |
| 21:32 |
Fixer |
celeron55: that was unexpected... |
| 21:33 |
celeron55 |
a run-in-place will look for the configuration file from $location_of_exe/../minetest.conf and also $location_of_exe/../../minetest.conf |
| 21:33 |
celeron55 |
a run-in-place build* |
| 21:34 |
celeron55 |
useful for eg. visual studio builds that append another directory before bin |
| 21:36 |
celeron55 |
or for collections of different minetests that still should use the same configuration |
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Fixer |
ha, now it makes a big sense |
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celeron55 |
i have no idea if that's documented anywhere; it probably should be |
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sfan5 |
sofar: in the updated # |
| 21:40 |
sfan5 |
#5234 you forgot the updates to defaultsettings.cpp |
| 21:40 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5234 -- Re-add Droid Sans as fallback font (Reverts part of eb490) by sofar |
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Fixer |
celeron55: needs to be documented in Readme.txt under Configuration file: section |
| 21:42 |
Fixer |
i will create an issue |
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sofar |
sfan5: derp, indeed |
| 21:43 |
sofar |
too much work stuff ongoing |
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sfan5 |
sofar: it's still broken w/ chinese chars tho |
| 21:43 |
sofar |
really? |
| 21:43 |
sofar |
are you sure the old code actually works ? I can't test any of it |
| 21:43 |
sfan5 |
works perfectly fine before the freetype changes in master |
| 21:44 |
sfan5 |
(just re-tested) |
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sofar |
that just doesn't make any sense to me |
| 21:44 |
sofar |
wait |
| 21:44 |
sofar |
can you try the old fallback font with the new pr? |
| 21:45 |
sfan5 |
my question would be: why is your pr using a different fallback font |
| 21:46 |
sofar |
I got the latest versions and verified they're approprately licensed |
| 21:47 |
sofar |
sfan5: |
| 21:47 |
sofar |
git checkout f17c9c45dc30a388675d46418d278a4a029206e2 fonts/DroidSansFallbackFull.ttf |
| 21:47 |
sfan5 |
your droid sans fallback is missing something |
| 21:48 |
sfan5 |
because it's smaller |
| 21:48 |
sfan5 |
it works with the old fallback font btw |
| 21:48 |
sfan5 |
where did you get? |
| 21:48 |
sfan5 |
last time i wanted to acquire droidsansfallbackfull i could not find a single .ttf that covered everything |
| 21:49 |
sofar |
don't have the exact link since I fetched it at home |
| 21:49 |
sofar |
but it was the official android base location |
| 21:49 |
sofar |
e.g. something like https://github.com/android/platform_frameworks_base/tree/master/data/fonts |
| 21:50 |
sofar |
yep, it's lost 500kb |
| 21:52 |
sfan5 |
celeron55: trying to edit dev.minetest.net results in 500 Internal Server Error |
| 21:53 |
sofar |
sfan5: well, I'll just really really push the old file back then |
| 21:53 |
sofar |
so weird |
| 21:54 |
sofar |
sfan5: so if the problem is the fallback |
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sofar |
sfan5: could we switch to Arimo and Cousine then? |
| 21:54 |
sofar |
lol |
| 21:54 |
sofar |
they look much better to me |
| 21:55 |
sfan5 |
celeron55: nvm that was just the absence of an error page for edit conflicts(?) |
| 21:55 |
sfan5 |
we could |
| 21:55 |
sfan5 |
but i'm against it, there is no need to change |
| 21:55 |
rubenwardy |
sfan5, celeron55: the 500 error only occurs if you try to edit the entire page |
| 21:55 |
rubenwardy |
sfan5, celeron55: editing just a section works |
| 21:55 |
sofar |
sfan5: well tbh the current font looks like shit in a 800x600 window |
| 21:55 |
sfan5 |
you can edit "just a section"? |
| 21:55 |
sfan5 |
good to know |
| 21:55 |
sofar |
and really, shit is an understatement :) |
| 21:59 |
sfan5 |
sofar: i don't get it http://imgur.com/a/SVvSS |
| 22:00 |
sfan5 |
a few subtle differences |
| 22:01 |
sofar |
hmm, yeah, that doesn't look as bad |
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sofar |
weird |
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sfan5 |
i guess i'm fine with both |
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sofar |
800x600? |
| 22:01 |
sofar |
yes it is |
| 22:01 |
sofar |
anyway, pr has the old fonts, not arimo |
| 22:02 |
sofar |
but, try cousine as well |
| 22:02 |
sfan5 |
since it's pretty subtle i would be fine with keeping arimo |
| 22:02 |
sfan5 |
to not unnecessarily bloat the git repo with more binary changesets |
| 22:03 |
sofar |
hmm, that does make sense |
| 22:03 |
sofar |
ok |
| 22:08 |
sfan5 |
same comparison of mono fonts: http://imgur.com/a/lEV6K |
| 22:09 |
sfan5 |
i prefer liberation mono here, cousin is just too "dense" |
| 22:09 |
sfan5 |
lets see what other people say |
| 22:11 |
sofar |
well, so, repushed with Arimo/Cousine |
| 22:12 |
sfan5 |
since we have README.txt couldn't we remove the fonts/*-LICENSE.txt files? |
| 22:19 |
sofar |
we could, I don't feel it's well-named though in README.txt |
| 22:19 |
sofar |
I generally prefer keeping attribution as close as possible in code |
| 22:19 |
sofar |
but, that's just my taste |
| 22:21 |
sfan5 |
we don't keep the attribution in the same folder as sounds either for example |
| 22:23 |
sofar |
IMHO license information shouldn't go into a README.txt |
| 22:24 |
sofar |
I didn't even know what was in there until last week |
| 22:24 |
sofar |
but, w/e, I'll change it if you want |
| 22:24 |
sofar |
sound licenses/attribution are probably a mess as well |
| 22:25 |
rubenwardy |
would be better in a separate file |
| 22:26 |
rubenwardy |
Minetest Game already does this |
| 22:26 |
rubenwardy |
there's not license info in README, only LICENSE |
| 22:26 |
rubenwardy |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/blob/master/LICENSE.txt |
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VanessaE |
paramat, is #5223 also meant to address http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/24003628/ ? |
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ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5223 -- Objectpos over limit: Avoid crash caused by sector over limit by paramat |
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* VanessaE |
pokes randomly about game#1567 also |
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ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/1567 -- Screwdriver does nothing when used on colorfacedir or colorwallmounted nodes |
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rubenwardy |
game#1573 |
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ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/1573 -- Remove set_inventory_formspec in default, remove delay in sfinv by rubenwardy |
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