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	| 10:19 | nerzhul | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Cpp17-Formal-Go nice :D | 
        
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	| 11:22 | Megaf | -DIRRLICHT_LIBRARY=Irrlicht.svn/lib/Linux/ -DIRRLICHT_INCLUDE_DIR=Irrlicht.svn/include/ -DLUA_LIBRARY=luajit-2.0/src/ -DLUA_INCLUDE_DIR=luajit-2.0/src/ | 
        
	| 11:22 | Megaf | What's wrong there!? | 
        
	| 11:22 | Megaf | these dirs are written exactly as the readme says | 
        
	| 11:23 | Megaf | "Only if you want to use LuaJIT; path to libluajit.a/libluajit.so" "Only if you want to use LuaJIT; directory where luajit.h is located" "Path to libIrrlicht.a/libIrrlicht.so/libIrrlicht.dll.a/Irrlicht.lib" | 
        
	| 11:23 | Megaf | Those are the directories that contain those files | 
        
	| 11:29 | sfan5 | >when you cant be bothered to wait 10m after asking your question | 
        
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	| 13:57 | srifqi | Does noise flag only have one type of flag? (eased and noeased) | 
        
	| 14:00 | srifqi | Never mind, already found, there are three: defaults, eased, and absvalue. | 
        
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	| 15:02 | CalebDavis | would it be good to add server-side CSM's | 
        
	| 15:02 | CalebDavis | they are in the server files but are sent to the client like CSM's that way you can "force" the client to use the CSM w-out kicking or banning | 
        
	| 15:03 | CalebDavis | sent to the client which treats them like CSM's ^ | 
        
	| 15:20 | sfan5 | that's planned | 
        
	| 15:20 | sfan5 | your sentence is quite funny though if you resolve the acronyms | 
        
	| 15:21 | sfan5 | "would it be good to add server-side client-side mods" | 
        
	| 15:23 | CalebDavis | ik XD | 
        
	| 15:24 | CalebDavis | ok thx (and i thought i had original ideas XD) | 
        
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	| 15:36 | nerzhul | CalebDavis, first step is mod channels, because communication between CSM and SSM should be added first | 
        
	| 15:37 | nerzhul | there is an opened PR about this, but it needs some refinements before merge | 
        
	| 15:44 | CalebDavis | ok i didnt see it | 
        
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	| 15:45 | CalebDavis | i am trying to add a long description tooltip to the f items in the formspec and i just get more and more lost in how the formspecs handle key inputs XD | 
        
	| 15:46 | CalebDavis | to the items ^ | 
        
	| 15:50 | CalebDavis | cause i want the long desc to show when you hold shift and hover over the item but i cant seem to figure out how to get when you are holding shift | 
        
	| 15:50 | CalebDavis | well sneak not shift | 
        
	| 16:11 | Megaf | Hi, I'm building a static linked minetest, but it seems like I'm missing some lib, any light? http://paste.debian.net/plain/984981 | 
        
	| 16:12 | CalebDavis | it looks like you are missing libGL and libopenAL what OS are you using | 
        
	| 16:15 | Megaf | I'm pretty sure I'm not missing them. | 
        
	| 16:16 | Megaf | It's Debian 9 | 
        
	| 16:16 | Megaf | and again, it's static linking | 
        
	| 16:18 | Megaf | hm, I might be missing the static version of openal and opengl | 
        
	| 16:19 | Megaf | I have this /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libGLw.a | 
        
	| 16:20 | Megaf | CalebDavis, | 
        
	| 16:20 | CalebDavis | hmm then idk | 
        
	| 16:20 | sfan5 | Megaf: statically linking gl is hard to impossible because it's very driver-specific | 
        
	| 16:21 | sfan5 | also yes you're missing a static openal | 
        
	| 16:22 | sfan5 | also as the warnings already indicate, statically linking anything that uses dlopen is a rather stupid idea | 
        
	| 16:23 | Megaf | How can I not static link the libs that are stupid idea to static link? | 
        
	| 16:24 | Megaf | and the openal I have is /usr/lib/libopenalpr-static.a | 
        
	| 16:24 | sfan5 | that's not openal, that's openalpr | 
        
	| 16:24 | sfan5 | Megaf: look into -Mdynamic / -Mstatic | 
        
	| 16:24 | Megaf | yep, no OpenAl here indeed | 
        
	| 16:25 | Megaf | Ok | 
        
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	| 16:35 | Megaf | How can i know the specific file it is trying to find | 
        
	| 16:37 | sfan5 | /usr/lib/libGL.a and //usr/lib/libAL.a | 
        
	| 16:39 | Megaf | there's not a single package in the repos that will provide these files | 
        
	| 16:39 | sfan5 | that's unsurprising as statically linking libgl is stupid | 
        
	| 16:40 | Megaf | I know, but not openal | 
        
	| 16:41 | Megaf | All I have is the static lib libopenal-dev: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libopenal.so | 
        
	| 16:41 | Megaf | dynamic* | 
        
	| 16:41 | sfan5 | well you'll have to compile a static build yourself | 
        
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	| 19:10 | tenplus1 | We NEED 'dis https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5971 | 
        
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	| 19:12 | rubenwardy | #5971 | 
        
	| 19:12 | ShadowBot | https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5971 -- Player Damage Reason. | 
        
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	| 19:26 | nerzhul | clang 5.0 released, nice, C++17 support, next release (6.0) will default to C++14 from C++98 support | 
        
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	| 20:55 | nerzhul | Fixer, jas_ no more crash since recent fix ? | 
        
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	| 21:04 | paramat | #6385 is ready for review | 
        
	| 21:04 | ShadowBot | https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/6385 -- Schematic decorations: Add 'y_offset' placement parameter by paramat | 
        
	| 21:10 | paramat | i'm getting occasional crashes in commit 40dd03e, anyone know what this indicates?: *** Error in `./minetest': malloc(): memory corruption (fast): 0x00007f3c4c0a14af *** ... Aborted (core dumped) | 
        
	| 21:10 | paramat | might open an issue | 
        
	| 21:11 | nerzhul | gdb ? | 
        
	| 21:12 | paramat | yeah i need to try and catch it in gdb. there's a backtrace printed to terminal that i'll put in the issue, in a few mins .. | 
        
	| 21:25 | paramat | and of course i need to reproduce it in latest master | 
        
	| 21:26 | paramat | nerzhul any opinion on lhofhansl becoming a core dev? you're the only active dev i haven't asked | 
        
	| 21:27 | nerzhul | i'm pretty neutral i see good commits but not many activity on the other PRs | 
        
	| 21:27 | nerzhul | his PR are nice | 
        
	| 21:33 | paramat | ok | 
        
	| 21:34 | paramat | yes he says he does not have a lot of time for MT | 
        
	| 21:38 | nerzhul | maybe it's not a good idea atm then | 
        
	| 21:40 | paramat | it will still help a little | 
        
	| 21:41 | paramat | here's my backtrace #6390 | 
        
	| 21:41 | ShadowBot | https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/6390 -- Occasional crash in recent commit 40dd03e | 
        
	| 21:45 | nerzhul | are you on latest master ? | 
        
	| 21:46 | nerzhul | a3c298e1d1f02634e87c7ba1746fd7e9ed444875 should do the trick | 
        
	| 21:47 | nerzhul | i pushed many return back commits on the concurrency part in network refactor, and a3c298e1d1f02634e87c7ba1746fd7e9ed444875 is latest commit which should fix that | 
        
	| 21:48 | paramat | ok good will try. no i'm 5 commits back | 
        
	| 21:49 | paramat | was wondering if that would fix this | 
        
	| 21:49 | nerzhul | it is | 
        
	| 21:49 | nerzhul | i let you close issue after a while, it should do the trick | 
        
	| 21:49 | paramat | so my issue was fixer s issue it seems | 
        
	| 21:49 | paramat | ok will do | 
        
	| 21:50 | nerzhul | oh yeah i have a MT serveronly instance without irrlicht vector2d heh | 
        
	| 21:50 | paramat | Fixer ^ | 
        
	| 21:50 | nerzhul | i saw our main.cpp include client headers in serveronly build too | 
        
	| 21:50 | nerzhul | i'm pushing main.cpp trivial header move permitting server to include only server headers in build not client | 
        
	| 21:52 | Fixer | i'm here | 
        
	| 21:53 | paramat | was just wondering if your crash was similar to #6390 | 
        
	| 21:53 | ShadowBot | https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/6390 -- Occasional crash in recent commit 40dd03e | 
        
	| 21:54 | Fixer | no idea | 
        
	| 21:54 | paramat | ok | 
        
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