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IRC log for #minetest-dev, 2018-03-19

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00:05 Gael-de-Sailly paramat: I've started coding for mapgen presets
00:06 Gael-de-Sailly (only gui for now)
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00:08 Roger9_ I read of in a closed issue for colored text a possible "color stack" where colors could be pushed and popped, and the top color would be used... did that ever make it into the official release?
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19:02 paramat rubenwardy please could you ban this account? https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/6839#issuecomment-374196006
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19:12 paramat oh and https://github.com/kilbith3 just remembered he has 3 accounts
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21:39 nerzhul why banning, there is nothing offensive here
21:44 sofar I agree with bannning - its ban evasion
22:13 celeron55 well, having a last say after banning in PRs is reasonable in my opinion as it's obviously useful for the project
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22:14 celeron55 but he shouldn't use that account for anything else
22:14 celeron55 any offensive comment or talk in a PR that isn't his and i'll get my banhammer
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22:18 celeron55 in finland we have this thing called herrasmiessäännöt
22:19 Fixer harrasmentsmth?
22:20 celeron55 no
22:20 celeron55 google translate will give you a literal translation which doesn't mean much
22:21 celeron55 there's no good translation for this really
22:21 Fixer aha
22:21 Fixer okay
22:25 celeron55 it basically means "(using) an unofficial / made up / created-on-the-fly ruleset to be accomodating of others"
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22:33 sofar well, ban evasion rules exist in order to avoid the whole idea that you can just break the rules and get away with it
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22:35 sfan5 I'm conflicted between a consistent stance on ban evasion and the reasonable purpose it serves in this case
22:35 celeron55 as it stands, the only reason kilbith has a technically infinite organization-wide ban is that it is literally the only thing github supports
22:35 celeron55 give it some slack
22:36 sfan5 i'd rather go with the "don't ban" approach since he has not used the opportunity of a second account to continue his harrassment / trolling
22:36 paramat ok i should clarify :] i have no problem with his latest comment, it's actually welcome as it helps the feature. but since he has been banned, all his accounts should be banned, otherwise he isn't banned
22:37 celeron55 he can just continue making accounts, it's worthless
22:38 paramat yes good point
22:38 sofar so we don't ban at all, effectively
22:38 celeron55 the only way to stop this would be to be able to set some kind of wildcard name bans and ip bans
22:39 paramat however currently he isn't banned =}
22:39 sofar failing to have good tools to execute a ban isn't the same as stating he is banned
22:39 celeron55 it's easier to just delete the posts than to ban him once per post
22:39 sofar *not
22:40 celeron55 i mean i agree, this is ridiculous
22:40 paramat so i would ban current accounts, then just not bother banning future ones unless there is unpleasantness
22:40 celeron55 but i'm not going to spend my time banning each nick individually just to state a point
22:40 celeron55 if rubenwardy wants to, fine
22:41 paramat yes ok, no pressure
22:43 celeron55 and if someone finds that to be offensive against themselves, call github and tell them their moderation tools suck
22:46 celeron55 now that github has basically been made an every day thing, i bet the github killer will be basically github but with moderation tools
22:46 celeron55 and the way it will gain projects is this exactly
22:46 celeron55 it's only logical
22:46 celeron55 unless github steps up their game
22:49 celeron55 github is still basically modeled after a mailing list, in every aspect
22:52 paramat i don't like the addition of social-network type comment reaction emoticons, seems to lower the quality of discussion
22:56 celeron55 they don't bother me too much, but probably don't really help
22:56 celeron55 they're probably just trying to make it feel like you're getting more responses
22:58 celeron55 it's literally just a mouse click, so you're literally counting how many mouse clicks you got
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