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| 12:56 |
sfan5 |
opinions wanted |
| 12:56 |
sfan5 |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/10714#issuecomment-784974041 |
| 12:56 |
sfan5 |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/7840#issuecomment-784968394 |
| 12:56 |
sfan5 |
and more importantly -> https://github.com/minetest/irrlicht/issues/1#issuecomment-782929112 |
| 13:24 |
rubenwardy |
Irrlicht 1.9 makes sense, if it really is close to release. We don't need everything to be bug free, just the stuff we use |
| 13:25 |
sfan5 |
how does the release date matter? We need to fork it anyway to make our customisations |
| 13:25 |
rubenwardy |
it matters in terms of how broken it is |
| 13:26 |
sfan5 |
presumably it works fine since we've been using it on Android for years |
| 13:26 |
sfan5 |
(though the revision we have on android is somewhat outdated, I think?) |
| 13:35 |
celeron55 |
sounds like it has to be tested and only then decided |
| 13:35 |
celeron55 |
make a windows build, throw it on the forum and see if the kids complain? |
| 13:35 |
celeron55 |
minetest 5.5.0: tested on children |
| 13:36 |
Zughy[m] |
marketing gone wrong |
| 13:40 |
rubenwardy |
Minetesting™ |
| 13:42 |
sfan5 |
strictly speaking there isn't even a decision to be had. we could fork 1.8 but then android support would just ????vanish which is not acceptable |
| 13:43 |
celeron55 |
that's true, having two forks is complete nonsense |
| 13:43 |
celeron55 |
so why are you even asking 8) |
| 13:46 |
sfan5 |
to have people agree, I guess |
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celeron55 |
to me it seems like the only question is "when" |
| 13:54 |
celeron55 |
if we want to, we can delay forking indefinitely |
| 13:55 |
celeron55 |
and live with the bugs or hope irrlicht gets a stable release in some years |
| 14:34 |
sfan5 |
I guess I need to figure out how to use svntogit next |
| 14:40 |
sfan5 |
or maybe merging can work without the revision history? |
| 14:41 |
sfan5 |
but it'd still be useful to have svn mirrored as-is to git for cherry-picking purposes/merging future changes |
| 14:42 |
sfan5 |
github can even import from svn directly but I guess it won't keep it in sync |
| 14:53 |
rubenwardy |
zaki/irrlicht is a mirror, not sure if it's still alive? |
| 14:53 |
sfan5 |
that's the outdated one we're using for our android stuff |
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nerzhul |
sfan5: git svn clone :) |
| 15:14 |
sfan5 |
okay I managed to do an import that doesn't have the whole history |
| 15:23 |
sfan5 |
https://github.com/minetest/irrlicht/tree/svn-trunk |
| 15:23 |
sfan5 |
https://github.com/minetest/irrlicht/tree/svn-ogl-es |
| 15:24 |
nerzhul |
svn is so broken that it depends on the repository state if you want all |
| 15:24 |
nerzhul |
if it has been broken at a point you may not recover all commits |
| 15:33 |
sfan5 |
the ogl-es branch supports opengl so we don't even need to merge them |
| 15:34 |
sfan5 |
might still be useful to have both for cherry-picking |
| 16:02 |
nerzhul |
i think it should not be so easy |
| 16:02 |
nerzhul |
i think first you may at least have MT work with irrlicht-dev branch |
| 16:02 |
nerzhul |
after break everything with cherry pick :D |
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MTDiscord |
<{$username}> What does irrlicht 1.9 bring to the table? |
| 16:35 |
nerzhul |
i don't know, it's why i'm suspicious about using it |
| 16:36 |
nerzhul |
if someone has ideas, it's why i prefer stable + backport opengl es |
| 16:43 |
sfan5 |
not being a codebase that wasn't been touched since 7 years is a pretty good advantage |
| 17:15 |
pgimeno |
so what happens to the SDL port? will that line of work be abandoned? |
| 17:17 |
sfan5 |
no, why would it? It will just be done on top of irrlicht 1.9 |
| 17:18 |
pgimeno |
ok |
| 17:43 |
nerzhul |
we should do things in order |
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nerzhul |
else it will be painful |
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sfan5 |
https://github.com/minetest/irrlicht/issues/1#issuecomment-786102200 |
| 19:02 |
nerzhul |
why did your closed all MR ? |
| 19:02 |
nerzhul |
if you think the opengl-es branch is fine we can use it, and ignore irrlicht 1.9, for our fork |
| 19:10 |
sfan5 |
force-pushing master automatically did that |
| 19:11 |
sfan5 |
and the ogl-es branch merges changes from 1.9 regularily, it's essentially the same |
| 20:26 |
sfan5 |
if someone wants to bother these can be posted to the forums telling people to test, report back, etc. |
| 20:26 |
sfan5 |
https://github.com/minetest/irrlicht/issues/13#issuecomment-786180987 |
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