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	Krock | 
	will merge game#2739 in 20 minutes if there are no objections (checked by Wuzzy) | 
        
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	ShadowBot | 
	https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/2739 -- Added a complete Esperanto translation | 
        
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	Krock | 
	merging | 
        
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	Nav|C | 
	Trying to build irrlicht, I got error https://ttm.sh/uRK.txt | 
        
	| 18:01 | 
	Nav|C | 
	I ran git clone then cd'ed into the dir then cmake . then make | 
        
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	MTDiscord | 
	<Jonathon> sfan5, you around? | 
        
	| 18:09 | 
	sfan5 | 
	yes | 
        
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	sfan5 | 
	Nav|C: which system is that? | 
        
	| 18:09 | 
	MTDiscord | 
	<Jonathon> re https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=26558&p=393754#p393754 i tried the build out, no noticeable performance increase, however did spot a few issues | 
        
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	Nav|C | 
	openbsd 5.8 iirc | 
        
	| 18:10 | 
	Nav|C | 
	6.8 | 
        
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	MTDiscord | 
	<Jonathon> hearts texture does not appear corectly | 
        
	| 18:10 | 
	MTDiscord | 
	<Jonathon> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/747163566800633906/833041719283941406/unknown.png | 
        
	| 18:10 | 
	Nav|C | 
	I updated the server yesterday so the latest | 
        
	| 18:11 | 
	sfan5 | 
	nobody has ever tested the new irrlicht on *bsd so you're kinda out of luck | 
        
	| 18:11 | 
	Nav|C | 
	can I use the old one? | 
        
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	sfan5 | 
	someone in #minetest mentioned that openbsd had patches applied to the old irrlicht to make it build | 
        
	| 18:11 | 
	sfan5 | 
	could perhaps look at that | 
        
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	MTDiscord | 
	<Jonathon> and chat/hud/formspecs seem to have reverted to 5.2 scaling | 
        
	| 18:11 | 
	sfan5 | 
	Nav|C: if you're only looking to build 5.4.1, sure | 
        
	| 18:11 | 
	Nav|C | 
	why is it even useing a custom one? | 
        
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	sfan5 | 
	latest dev (5.5.0-dev) requires IrrlichtMt however | 
        
	| 18:12 | 
	Nav|C | 
	Well that sucks | 
        
	| 18:12 | 
	sfan5 | 
	because upstream is pretty dead and issues that were "unfixable" due to Irrlicht kept piling up | 
        
	| 18:12 | 
	Nav|C | 
	yea just checked its openbsd 6.8 | 
        
	| 18:13 | 
	Nav|C | 
	makes sense | 
        
	| 18:13 | 
	sfan5 | 
	@Jonathon that'll just be the lack of dpi detection, simple fix | 
        
	| 18:14 | 
	sfan5 | 
	it's not that it wouldn't run on openbsd you likely just have to make a few tweaks | 
        
	| 18:14 | 
	MTDiscord | 
	<Jonathon> hearts texture would be related to dpi as well? interesting | 
        
	| 18:14 | 
	sfan5 | 
	yes | 
        
	| 18:15 | 
	MTDiscord | 
	<Jonathon> anyways, any other feedback you would like about that build? | 
        
	| 18:16 | 
	sfan5 | 
	nah, I know that it generally works. my hope is just maybe it fixes those mysterious performance problems, if you don't have it no reason to use it. | 
        
	| 18:18 | 
	MTDiscord | 
	<Jonathon> my only issue is mt used to run at 60 fps, now runs at 30fps, i haven't gotten around to figuring out what most likely a windows update broke | 
        
	| 18:21 | 
	Nav|C | 
	ok so I tried other irrlicht, irrlicht will not build | 
        
	| 18:21 | 
	Nav|C | 
	if i had a github account I would open a issue | 
        
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	Pexin | 
	Nav|C: use MT 5.4.1 and your usual native irrlicht | 
        
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	Nav|C | 
	I don't know how but I know it's possible to built 5.5.0-dev on openbsd I just need to figure out how | 
        
	| 18:48 | 
	Pexin | 
	ascii_shruggie.txt | 
        
	| 18:48 | 
	Nav|C | 
	minetest$ /home/minetest/minetest/bin/minetestserver --version | 
        
	| 18:48 | 
	Nav|C | 
	Minetest 5.5.0-dev-52c0384bd-dirty (BSD) | 
        
	| 18:48 | 
	Nav|C | 
	Using LuaJIT 2.0.5 | 
        
	| 18:48 | 
	Nav|C | 
	BUILD_TYPE=Release | 
        
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	Nav|C | 
	RUN_IN_PLACE=1 | 
        
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	Nav|C | 
	USE_CURL=1 | 
        
	| 18:48 | 
	Nav|C | 
	STATIC_SHAREDIR="." | 
        
	| 18:48 | 
	Nav|C | 
	minetest$ | 
        
	| 18:48 | 
	Nav|C | 
	I just don't know how thay built it, thay're impossible to talk to and not even here at the moment | 
        
	| 18:49 | 
	sfan5 | 
	uh | 
        
	| 18:49 | 
	sfan5 | 
	if you just want the server you can skip compiling irrlicht, just point it to the headers | 
        
	| 18:50 | 
	Nav|C | 
	Yes I do, I only want server | 
        
	| 18:50 | 
	Nav|C | 
	give me a minute | 
        
	| 18:51 | 
	Nav|C | 
	https://ttm.sh/uR4.txt | 
        
	| 18:51 | 
	Nav|C | 
	thats why I try to built irrlicht | 
        
	| 18:52 | 
	sfan5 | 
	you don't need to build it, simply pass -DIRRLICHT_INCLUDE_DIR=.../irrlicht/include to Minetest | 
        
	| 18:53 | 
	Pexin | 
	to cmake, right? | 
        
	| 18:53 | 
	Nav|C | 
	really? | 
        
	| 18:54 | 
	Nav|C | 
	wait, why would I need to built it if it already has include? | 
        
	| 18:55 | 
	sfan5 | 
	Pexin: err yes, to cmake | 
        
	| 18:55 | 
	Pexin | 
	include is just headers, for linking phase, but since the server never needs to link what it doesn't use, the binaries aren't needed | 
        
	| 18:56 | 
	p_gimeno | 
	Nav|C: that paste mentions -BUILD_CLIENT=FALSE, if you're using that note that you need to use -D: -DBUILD_CLIENT=FALSE | 
        
	| 18:57 | 
	Nav|C | 
	what about server? | 
        
	| 18:57 | 
	p_gimeno | 
	same thing, all settings need -D | 
        
	| 18:57 | 
	Nav|C | 
	really | 
        
	| 18:57 | 
	p_gimeno | 
	yes | 
        
	| 18:57 | 
	Pexin | 
	cmake is confuse | 
        
	| 18:58 | 
	sfan5 | 
	cmake . -DBUILD_CLIENT=FALSE -DBUILD_SERVER=TRUE -DIRRLICHT_INCLUDE_DIR=/home/minetest/nav-test/irrlicht/include | 
        
	| 18:58 | 
	sfan5 | 
	^ here's what you need | 
        
	| 18:59 | 
	Nav|C | 
	Pexin: agreed, cmake is confuseing, we already have make, what is the c doing | 
        
	| 19:00 | 
	Pexin | 
	autoconfig for target platform etc. it's quite neat but I don't know how to use it yet, personally | 
        
	| 19:01 | 
	Pexin | 
	metabuild system to set up for various build systems | 
        
	| 19:02 | 
	Nav|C | 
	The most advanced programe I have made has been built with gcc -o out in.c lol | 
        
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	MTDiscord | 
	<josiah_wi> The C stands for cross-platform IIRC. | 
        
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	MTDiscord | 
	<Kimapr> no, C stands for "C's not B" | 
        
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	MTDiscord | 
	<josiah_wi> Not in CMake. -_- | 
        
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